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Howdy people's, I'm Abby Martin and this is Breaking the Set.
So it's no secret that the US military has over 5 thousand nuclear war-heads.
Enough to eliminate most life on Earth.
But it may surprise you how much it costs just to maintain these weapons.
Well, a new study from the Center for Non-proliferation Studies just concluded that
over the course of the next 30 years the US will spent nearly one trillion dollars
to either keep these weapons in operation or modernize them,
because you know the Cold War never really ended,
and there's one thing we need to be spending billions of dollars on it's a mass killing
machine!
So, while this country continues to lag behind in education,
income equality and sustainable energy,
at least we can keep the people of the world up all night knowing that the Cold War is
alive and well
and we got out nukes locked and loaded!
Now, lets Break the Set!
When people hear the word 'UFO' they tend to tune-out, however the term is not necessarily
mean 'little green men' from Mars.
It's a scientific term which means, 'Unidentified Flying Object'.
And there are hundreds, if not thousands, of UFO sightings and reports every year, worldwide.
In fact just two days ago flights in Bremen, Germany, were grounded, cancelled, or diverted,
due to a UFO showing up multiple times on the airports radar screen.
This comes on the heels of July event that is now surfacing
about a bizarre incident near London's Heathrow Airport,
where a pilot was convinced that we was going to collide mid-flight with a metallic object
shaped like a rugby ball.
Both incidents are still being investigated by authorities.
Now, these reports are nothing new, yet amid the many, many UFO hoaxes, my next guest alleges
that a fraction of the sightings are indeed extra-terrestrial.
His name is Dr. Steven Greer and he's the founder of The Disclosure Project,
an organization that works with retired military and government officials in order to get Congress
to investigate UFO's.
But, as a skeptic, I have a lot of questions.
So, I first asked him if he had one incident that he would pick to convince people like
me that aliens have indeed made contact with Earth.
(Dr,. Steven Greer) That's a tough question because, you know, it's the weight of the
evidence,
and it's like the J. Allen Hynek, who was the Air force Blue Book guy who said,
''It's an embarrassment of riches'' because we have so many material and so much information.
But if you take one case that we have in The Disclosure Project and that's a man who was
the senior guy at the FAA
and they were tracking this object over Alaska
and it was at one point in the sky
and once they put the radar
it would be 40 - 50 miles away moving completely non-linearly,
not like an airplane.
And we have the radar tape,
we have the pilot reports,
we have all the evidence from the airline and the government.
And this whistle blower who came, John Callahan, he said,
I'm one of the senior officials in the government and not only have the evidence
but was part of the cover-up to keep the American people ignorant about it.
(Abby Martin) And so, talk about the Disclosure Project.
It's the organization that you founded - why and how did you formulate it?
(Dr. Steven Greer) You know, it grew out of an interest I had since I was a child.
My uncle was an aerospace engineer with Northrop Grumman
and I had a sighting when I was a young child
and started an organization later called the Center for the Study of Extra-terrestrial
Intelligence to look into,
are we alone and what can we do as citizens to bring out this information and perhaps
make contact.
You know, it was really the visionary effort 24 years ago when we started it.
Disclosure Project started because in my early days I was naive
and I thought, well, if we put all of the evidence together,
government documents, astronauts, cosmonauts from the former Soviet Union,
who have seen these objects and we have all this and we give it to, in this case, Bill
Clinton and his CIA Director,
who I personally briefed on this subject,
they'll do the right thing
and the secrecy
bring out this information.
It would be one of the greatest discoveries in human history.
Not only that but it would bring out the technologies which frankly is the reason behind the secrecy.
We'll get to this in a minute.
Well, what happened was that the political establishment then didn't want to touch this.
And so what I just found, little by little,
it was up to we the people to do it.
So I started a grass roots movement to identify people who had the courage to come forwards
outside of their national security oaths,
they had top secret clearances...
and give evidence on this,
and give materials and give documents and give photographs,
or whatever they had and it lead to this big global effort called, now, the Disclosure
Project.
(Abby Martin) I wanted to bring it to Ancient Aliens really quickly because it's an entertaining
documentary series on the history channel.
It surmises that ancient cultures have also documented UFO's going back hundreds of years.
If alien shave been around for thousands of years visiting Earth, why has their message
been lost this whole time?
Why haven't they delivered it?
(Dr. Steven Greer) Well, I don't know that their message has been lost but maybe it's
been subsumed or incorporated into various ancient traditions.
If you look at the Hopi, if you look at Meso America,
South America, there are a lot of traditions that may have actually come from encounters
that happened with non-human or advanced lifeforms from other places.
Now, this is where it gets into a very tricky area.
It's where theologians have a problem with this and that is
if you were to encounter something that hundreds of thousands of years, or millions of years
more advanced than we are,
every manifestation of their so-called civilization would look miraculous,
would look like a miracle or something you would hear about in a religious text.
So, the question becomes:
How much of the stories that we have from ancient times, ancient cultures,
that we take as mythology might have been witnessing things that couldn't be explained
even today,
nevermind 2,000, 5,000, 10,000 years ago.
(Abby Martin) I also can't help but bring up the Phoenix Lights because to me that's
one of the most fascinating cases.
(Dr. Steven Greer) Yes, I was there on the day it happened.
(Abby Martin) Were you! My goodness!
Let's play a clip really quick for the audience who don't know about this incident in 1997.
(Governor Symington) If you'd been here ten years ago and standing out here and looking
out there at the Lights and the view
you would have been astounded, you would have been amazed.
(Reporter) Governor Symington is referring to what is now known as the Phoenix Lights.
An object videotaped by many and seen by thousands over several nights over the Arizona sky in
1997.
It was described by witnesses as larger than a football field and silent.
(Governer Symington) And I suspect that, unless the defense department proves this otherwise,
that this was probably some form of alien spacecraft.
(Abby Martin) So, Dr Greer you have the Arizona Governor, you have thousands of people in
Arizona who saw this,
how is it possible that this is kind of an open and shut case when so many people saw
this and even he is saying,
hey, I'm convinced.
(Dr. Steven Greer) Well, in the Disclosure Project files we have hundreds of cases like
some of which are better, but the public don't know about.
So, I tell people, people should go o our website, it's all up there,
the video's, the testimony from all these government officials, it's all on our website,
and so we haven't hid anything or held anything back,
except some confidences I've had to keep when I've had meetings with the Pentagon and elsewhere.
But, what I tell people is that the reason it's hidden in plain sight is that the establishment
doesn't want people to know,
not so much that there's life in the universe,
there's two thirds of the public that believe that there's intelligent life somewhere out
there,
over half believe we've been visited.
And this is consistent with the polls.
It's the technology:
How do you put something like that into the sky and move it, with no sound, completely
quiet,
you're not dealing with fossil fuels,
you're not dealing with conventional rockets,
you're dealing with an entirely new area of physics which
if it was disclosed would mean the end of Big Oil,
the end of the Petro Dollar,
the end of public utilities as we know it,
it would be an entirely new energy paradigm.
And so, the macro-economic power behind the secrecy is what no-one's been looking at.
And this is what the Minister of Defense of Canada and I done a press conference on a
few years ago,
Paul Heller.
And I did a press conference about this and said that it's the energy technology part
of this story which has lead to the extreme secrecy.
And also, the extreme ridicule.
(Abby Martin) Let's talk about your documentary series because you're mentioning earlier that
people you spoken to have actually taken these bodies out of craft.
I mean, Dr Greer, where are these bodies?
I mean in Sirius you discuss that the Atacama skeleton found in Chile is an extra-terrestrial
being, however, scientific analysis concluded that it's human DNA?
(Dr Steven Greer) Well, no actually we never aid it was ET.
We said that we don't know what it is and the DNA analysis from Dr Nolan, at Stanford,
is that 9% of the genetic material wasn't matching the humans.
Now, as of last week we just discovered that the stature of this being.....
(Abby Martin) Could I finish my question really quickly because
I think even making these allegations before you even know....
I mean you're saying, 'we don't know'.
Doesn't that discredit your larger attempt to expose the truth about UFO's if you're
saying these things?
We can't see the beans that have been supposedly put down?
(Dr Steven Greer) Well, no. I've never been to a facility where they have been autopsied
however I know men who have been there
and those are the people in the Disclosure Project and who have gone on the record.
Who actually went on the retrieval teams and those are first hand things.
Know, remember, if the New York Times had three people and took them from a very controversial
political story they would run with it.
We have over a hundred and ten on digital video tape with top secret clearance's, name
rank and serial number.
These are not anonymous.
So, I tell people please do not take my word for it.
As for the Atacama humanoid, very controversial.
You know, the Huffington Post had 5 million people on their site when this thing broke
a few months ago.
We still do not know what it is.
Now, the people who say it's human, they are jumping the gun,
the people who say it's ET, they're jumping the gun.
(Abby Martin) How can equating UFO's and aliens be credible at this point when we live in
a world of drone technology and now it's so prevalent.
And it's probably existed for decades prior, Dr Greer.
How can we ever tell what's a drone and whats a UFO?
(Dr. Steven Greer) A) You have to note the science behind it.
Drones that people see make a noise.
Like this case which just happened in Germany.
They are very noisy.
Those things are not quiet.
Now, this has opened up another discussion of what do we have on our classified projects
which might look like a UFO.
And do those exist.
The answer is yes.
We have been designing and building, what are called EMG (Electro-magnetic-Gravitic)
anti-gravity, pop-culture term, not proper...
but things that deify gravity that float and are silent since the 1950's.
Now, this is highly classified material.
You know, one of the main writers for Jane's Defence Weekly, Nick Cook, wrote a book called,
'The Hunt for Zero Point', talking about pulling energy from the Zero Point Energy Field
and how that's been applied into anti-gravity systems that are very classified at the Boeing,
Northrop Grumman,
Lockheed Martin and so we have to have enough information if you are investigating this
to know that some of them are just mus-identifications,
some are actually extra-terrestrial vehicles because there have been creatures and beings
associated with them.
Like the French governmental case where one of these objects landed and there were four
creatures outside the UFO in a lavender field.
And this is rthe equivalent of their NASA report.
Don't take my word for it, listen to the french government report.
Same thing at the Bent-waters case in England.
And object landed and ET's were seen with the landing.
(Abby Martin) But, if it's in these official reports how come there's no official documentation
of the Beings, that what I don't understand?
(Dr Steven Greer) Well, that's a very good question.
You'll have to ask the people keeping this a secret.
I wasn't there when those things happened.
We've just interviewed and found the people,
the men who were there, and some women,
who were involved, hands on with these encounters and so,
the ET issue, I think, is very clearly established through the body of evidence we have.
But there's something that's even more spectacular and this is turns this whole question which
you asked on it's head.
If some of these objects that are moving at a hundred thousand miles per hour, and making
right hand turns, without decelerating are ours,
what are we doing using jet engines and rockets?
What kind of technologies are extant, are out there, that might give us an entirely
new civilization without pollution, poverty...etc.
I think this is the biggest part of the story.
It isn't the ET part of it, it's the high tech energy and propulsion part of the story
which is at the heart of the secrecy.
(Abby Martin) That was Dr Steven Greer, UFO-logist and Founder of the Disclosure Project.