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said a lot about the role of the media enough so called eric democracy
hi i'm wondering how you see here are the rollover educational system what
it's doing right now what forces are driving at
and what constraints are and how should operate
we are
i quoted the uh... trilateral commission
view of the educational system
namely to system of indoctrination of the young
and i think that's correct
to system of indoctrination linux
that was the way the liberal
deletes regarded and they're more or less accurate
uh... so the educational system is supposed to train people to be uh...
obedient conformist
not drink too much sugar which told me
state passive
don't cause any price is a democracy or raise any questions and so on that's
basically what the
what the uh... system is about
uh... they even the fact that the system has a lot of stupidity and i think as a
function
you know it means that
people are filtered out for opinions
if you can guarantee lots of stupidity and the educational system you know like
stupid assignments and things like that
you know that the only people who will make it through
are people like me unlike most eli guests
who are willing to do it no matter how stupid it is because
over the next step
so you may know that this assignment is idiotic and i got there couldn't
because we had a paper bag
but he'll do it anyway
because that's the way you get to the next question
needed my make it and so on and so forth well there are people who don't do that
now there are people who say i'm going to do it through the cutest thing
uh... those people are called behavioral problem
something like that they end up in the principles officer in the streets are
selling drugs or whatever
and all of this is a technique for
uh... selection for obedience
i dot approved this but i have a feeling that when you go to the ailing
universities
you find more obedience and conformity
probably because you're getting the students who were
better able to do it
uh... were all that is functional that's the way it works for it
and it works right through
graduate school
i mean if you they're upsetting but how do you graduate schools or a little more
varied because some real contradictions development system
the problem is that you can't
progress this way
na na especially in the sciences and engineering that's prob
because the corporations need
science and engineering
he don't have
innovation you're really in trouble
so they have to encourage creativity in independence
'cause he can't
get anywhere if you just copy what somebody told me
you have to be challenging things all the time
challenging everything you know
i'm thinking who sought some song and they are real contradiction
uh... it's hard to train people to be
creative and challenging and so on and yet that i'm sure that somewhere else in
their lives their conformist an obedient in everything
so you have problems that's a serious problem in japan
uh... we think of japan as miss tremendous superpower but that's very
misleading
japan for example is very poor
nowhere
and part of the reason is it such as part of its part the same thing that
makes them good workers obedient workers
to very obedient society very deferential and conformist society
and one effect of that is that you
you know there are real constraints against
independent free said thinking you see it in the science is very clearly
the uh...
but from here to so there are those contradictions when you get the graduate
school are beginning to show up they show up much less than the ideological
subjects
because there doesn't matter too much of people have
there there is no profits aren't made
buddy historians having original ideas but french revolution
so they can have conventional ideas
and that means that the
the pressure to try to support innovation and freedom is much less in
the profession
the pressures for conformity on the other hand are much greater
cousin the ideological subject it begins to be dangerous to people think the
wrongful
dangerous if they have new ideas about physics
uh... so saying it but nevertheless you know you do there's you begin to get a
little flocks of the system by the time
graduate school
and even at low levels you find it i mean there's
you know there are teachers who do stimulate thought
and sometimes they get away with
and uh... you know all the way through
you know if you feel
learning things he just needs can control you can't make them just
regurgitate
what they heard
now there's a lot of pressure to turn the schools into the marine corps
lends a lot of support for
the for example is this bestseller
last couple years by allan bloom
that was all over the supermarkets
closing the american mine
whichever you know huge bestseller supermarket racks which is where i read
it and things like that
greater cooperation
at at the end of tight you know a lot of suggesting accolades for it and so on
uh... he was saying that
a couple of uh... smart guys will decide what the great thoughts are
uh... and every student memorizing
as education
we are no and that's the way to turn people into pure comedy
i mean even if they happen to pick the great thoughts
uh... there is no way less
likely to get anybody to think about those thoughts than to make that the
curriculum
that finishes amok
that uh...
and i think that's the purpose for them
i mean the purposes just to impose fire no
here's a great for us
also stuff is rubbish just learners here okay
opic can you memorize
that's basically the line
now of course that's that's the opposite of education
now that's the latest study thoma or something like that
uh... but uh...
it's very popular and i think it reflects the same concern over the
crisis of my person
background
lemon selfless
extreme of the incident that really got them was a case in
cornell where he was a professor
where some black students took over one of the admins buildings
and he would he said that's just like not to give us back to the nazis is old
business but the nazis and so on and so forth
where you take a little it happened and that you can tell you what he thought
the and its effect on the capitulated not just like i did hear which would not
to be subsumed
that what actually happened if you look back is that there were real grievances
undoubtedly that students should love them but they didn't go in the building
with guns and so on but it was settled react
it was so that we have to remember he was killed
uh... the grievances were to some extent dealt with on the net result was better
that was before
but he doesn't really thought they should have
mozart and president clinton
i guess they should have
bombed the place or something like that
that's really set him off and in general what set many people off was the day
you know the the sixties are now described
in the literature as if it was a time when students were running around
burning libraries and
you know destroying the foundations of civilization and so on
what was actually going on as they were asking questions
you know they were raising questions they were uh...
looking into things appeal and looked into before they were not just a billion
and from the point of view of the log faculty that's equivalent to bring that
building
weekend that small distinction can make that
and the
http pressured return schools back to the days when you have to worry about
those things like disobedient students asking questions about things that you
don't think about