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Hi Everybody, I'm Sarah Diesel and this is Cannabinews. Sam Humeid and Lisa Kaler are both out on
assignment.
and I'm here with our guest Gabe Green. He is Cannabinews' senior science
correspondent. Hi Gabe! Thank you for being on the show!
Hi Sarah, how are you? it is wonderful having you and your expertise here to
join our guests, I'm glad to be here. Glad to shed some light on
some things. Yes! Shed some light on this fabulous plant!
So K2, also known as SPICE
What the heck is this stuff? Well it's not just
a mountain... You know ...the k2
It is a synthetic
form of marijuana and unfortunately the
um, it's been getting some pretty
negative press I'll and it's something that
a lot of people aren't familiar with that might be cannabis users
But it's become pretty popular because
up until very recently it was legal and even though it's no longer legal, it
is quite available and pervasive um
Is it dangerous? it is dangerous.
and it's dangerous in a way that
most Cannabinoids are not.
In fact here's an article about synthetic marijuana
being linked to three heart attacks
3 heart attacks in, get this, in 16-year-old boys...
In teenagers?! Yeah three teenagers in Texas
took K2, they were
cannabis users and they decided well, k2 is
the new thing. It's it's legal and it's probably got more of a kick to
it
Does it? I personally don't know; I'm not a cannabis user.
But uh...ya know...
you know I, from what I recall...
there's a lot of um effects that are seen
in these compounds, that aren't in regular cannabis and what
happens
I mean, people describe dizziness
dissociation, depression
You're saying heart attacks meaning it's giving them rapid heart movement or rapid heart palpitations?
yeah it does it gives them a
very rapid hurt be and you know perhaps XP
yeah and then shall I cannabis at all I am
the swamp helms you know I'm not
I'm not opposed to says that it can have a nice to have their place but
these particular ones are bad news
and and won't let me let me explain a little bit about why that is
loser um okee have
okay
here's I'm sure you
and don't get all intimidated you guys out there and television lander internet
land because
you mean because I'm I'm actually showing you chemical structures
but the point is to see patterns
because the shapes is these molecules determine
how we react in your body and
subtle changes make a big difference
now this this is a picture this is a drawing
the actual molecular structure %uh
delta nine tetrahydrocannabinol known as
THC on a and this is
of course president and natural cannabis it can be synthesized
on the synthetic form is what we know is marinol that's given to cancer patients
um by prescription now if you take a look at this
each one of these is a carbon atom just say you know
um and anytime there's a for textures permanent
should take a look at this and then take a look at the structure below it
initiate stop the three rains
it's got these two
these are called methyl group and it's got
the double bond hearings delta nine that's the
location of the double bond so anybody wants know why its delta nine THC its
numbering system on this little rain
here this moved over here
but like everything else is pretty darn similar
except that now you have a slightly longer chain
of carbs okay you have one worker been hearing you have this
what's college and I'm awful group this is a synthetic cannabinoid called each
you too can
it's one other things in k2 mom
if you take this and further
modify it okay now let's see you
get rid of this part of the molecule pay
now you have this hexagon attached to this hexagon this is
this is called the cyclohexanol
in this is a a federal group
now you have a structure like this so this is
this is basically a stripped-down version at this time you see
this thing doesn't have that piece you just have a third ring
morphed into its own look great in a min and guess what
this is even more potent men it's in Katy
it's in SPICE OKC p47 497 as well as call
and then you take this of
and this looks these look almost identical don't pay
munis almost identical you know the difference
this stain long as exactly right
this is call the 11 dime eso of tall
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otherwise known as can i buy cyclo texan all
and what these compounds have in common is that they're all
now on the schedule 1 controlled substances list
these are all band these are synthetic cannabinoids their dangers these are
synthetic cannabinoids that are causing heart attacks they're causing
depression really really nasty side effects that we don't see
even barren although I've also heard people who have taken marilyn had very
bad side effects as well
are any of these in Merrill or they strictly and
no these are strictly in spice UK to
marinol is pure synthetic delta nine THC
ok I'm now that's an interesting question anyways why would people have
bad effects from Erin all I as opposed to natural campus low because natural
cannabis is a mixture
above a bunch of different can have a knowledge mmm
you know it's a it has all kinds -ism
I'm derivative structures as the THC
marinol just 28 she said if you have a negative reaction to THC
you're not gonna do well on marinol but some strange that cannabis might have a
very low fraction THC and might have a very high fraction
I love something like CBD which were your about
which doesn't have a psychoactive effects
so it's it's all in in this
ballet irv this molecular ballet here
molecular Macarena that we're doing here
between the canaveral aids in their receptors its
it's a lock and key thing it's how these molecules fit in their receptors
and if it isn't quite great a or
if it's too I to perfectly fit my care
too much reaction some on Canada's Worst
with too much THC actually makes people get paranoid
argentina ranks it. feeling and that's that same feeling that you even
you know from this stuff that from even just cannabis itself so
whereas was nice not testing and sent for somebody who produces too much and
my aunt for instance
where your body is rapidly Rd firing at a at a fast pace
US in the jewish THC in it yes you will get over her you will get a little bit
and society
so I going to a facility that is test the medicine and you can see
wit what's at level 80 80 works best for you
I'm thrilled with the before we end this segment bath salts
and hearing about teenagers doing basalt even heard this task yeah
this similar to sponsor this difference well basalts
are not what you put in your bath with the rubber ducky yeah
you know let's make that clear a bath salts
I am are seeing him for another kind designer drugs just like k2 and spice
are a former designer drug based on
THC based on the Canaanites I am
I'll show you these basalts
these basalts
here's the structures
these are five these are the five subs and bass also have all been banned
very recently by the DEA and say you see
if you look at those five compounds you look over here
it's pretty scary their own mall after methamphetamine
an Indian name well user loosen Janet
amphetamines so that's hurting the whole crazy bass also
like that and then they're they're like a loose and Janet
and that means while for a double dose
yeah exactly yeah
stay way from basalt sent well lately so much data being on the show and
educating
okay dangerous day disaster exercise in case you
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