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>>HERMAN: I LOVE
YOU AND THANK
YOU FOR JOINING US
AND NEXT TO ME IS
DOCTOR DAVE, AND THAT
IS WHY WE DO THIS.
>>DAVID: THAT IS A
GREAT NEW OPENING,
WE HAVE THE LIGHTNING
AND THE THUNDER AND
WHAT IS THE SYMBOLISM
THERE?
>>HERMAN: IT IS THE
WORD OF GOD, IT IS
THE POWER
>>DAVID: THAT WOULD
BE IMPRESSIVE.
>>HERMAN: AND THIS IS
BECAUSE YOU ARE HERE.
>>DAVID: AND I THINK
WE COULD GET THEM
TALKING AND THE BOLT
OF LIGHTNING.
>>HERMAN: I HAD THAT
HAVE TO ME WHEN I WAS
JOGGING MANY YEARS
AGO, AND I WAS GOING
TO CLEARWATER BEACH,
AND A LIGHTNING BOLT
LITERALLY IT CAME
DOWN AND I MEAN, IT
LOOKED LIKE IT WAS 10
FEET IN FRONT OF ME
AND MAYBE FURTHER
THAN THAT, BUT I
STOPPED, AND I STOOD
THERE FOR A WHILE AND
I SAID, "LORD IS THIS
THE WAY YOU GOING TO
TAKE A ME?" AND I
KEPT RUNNING AND I
MEAN, THIS REALLY DID
HAPPEN
>>DAVID: AND YES, I
GUESS YOU SAW THE
FLASH AND THEN
THE THUNDER?
>>HERMAN: I MEAN, IT
WAS LIKE, I COULD'VE
DIED. AND THIS IS SO
GOOD TO HAVE YOU
>>DAVID: IT IS GOOD
TO BE HERE.
>>HERMAN: AND GET A
CLOSE-UP OF THE
DOCTOR DAVE AND YOU
COULD EVER GET A
CLOSE-UP OF DOCTOR
DAVE, AND HE JUST
PASSED 10 KIDNEY
STONES. AND HOW MANY
DID YOU PASS?
>>DAVID: [LAUGHTER]
>>HERMAN: HOW MANY
DID YOU PASS?
>>DAVID: 2
>>HERMAN: I HEARD 10.
DO YOU SEE THAT. DO
YOU SEE TO THAT BECOMES
EXAGGERATED? HOW THAT HAPPENS?
AND NOW YOU ARE HERE.
>>DAVID: IF I HAD
KNOWN YOU WERE GOING
TO TALK ABOUT THIS ON
TV, I WOULD NOT BE
HERE.
>>HERMAN: [LAUGHTER.]
HOW DO YOU FEEL?
>>DAVID: I FEEL
GREAT, AND I HAD A
LITTLE BOUT WITH
BRONCHITIS AND I HAD
THE KIDNEY STONES IN
THE SAME TWO WEEKS
AND I HAD HIVES, ALSO.
>> AND YOU HAD
BRONCHITIS? AND DO
YOU BELIEVE IN
HEALING AT ALL?
>>DAVID: I'VE BEEN
HEALED, IT DOES NOT
MEAN THAT IT WOULD
NOT COME BACK BUT I
HAVE BEEN HEALED.
>>HERMAN: AND YOU
KNOW, AND YOU NEED TO
DRINK A LOT OF WATER.
BUT YOU ARE NOT
GOING TO BE DOING IT.
>>DAVID: I AM
DRINKING A LOT OF
WATER.
>>HERMAN: I'M TRYING
TO HELP YOU. AND WE
DO THE HEALTH
PROGRAMS AND YOU
SHOULD WATCH THEM,
AND TODAY'S SUBJECT,
AND LOVING THE WORLD
AND PART ONE, NOW,
AND I JUST HEARD
BEFORE WE WENT ON,
THAT SUE SAID, AND
THIS IS FOR QUOTE, "I
LOVE HD." AND THAT
IS HIGH DEFINITION
TELEVISION. AND THE
WORD LOVE THAT SHE
USED, AND WHAT WOULD
THAT BE?
>>DAVID:
APPRECIATION,
AFFECTION, AND
TAKING PLEASURE AND
THERE IS NOTHING
WRONG WITH LOVING HD,
BUT THE SCENE OF A
LOVING THE WORLD, AND
THIS HAS A NEGATIVE
AND A POSITIVE, AND
THERE IS A WAY THAT
WE SHOULD COULD APPLY
THIS, AND WE SHOULD
ALSO REFRAIN FROM IT.
>>HERMAN: AND ONE
OPEN WITH I LOVE YOU,
AND THE WORD LOVE,
THAT I USE, AT THAT
MOMENT, AND WHAT
WOULD THAT BE?
>>DAVID: AND THERE IS
NO TELLING IN
ENGLISH, AND YOU HAVE
TO DESCRIBE THE LOVE
YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT
AND MAYBE YOU HAVE A
LOVE FOR A PET OR A
WIFE OR FOOTBALL,
AND MAYBE BREAD
PUDDING. AND WE LOVE
IS DEFINED BY THE
CONTEXT OF HOW YOU
USE IT.
>>HERMAN: NOW YOU'RE
GETTING PERSONAL.
>>DAVID:
AND WE WILL ADD
ADJECTIVES, AND MAYBE
*** LOVE OR
FRIENDSHIP OR
BROTHERLY LOVE. AND
IN THE NEW TESTAMENT,
AND THE GREEK, AND
THE HEBREW AND IT
CHANGES UPON WHAT YOU
ARE TALKING ABOUT.
>>HERMAN: AND YOU
SAY, AND WERE GOING
TO BE HAVING A LOT OF
VISUAL TODAY.
>>DAVID: AND DAVID
MARTIN, AND THE
DIRECTOR, AND HE IS
SO GOOD AT PUTTING
THESE UP ON THE
SCREEN, REALLY AND
HE IS GOOD, AND NOW
WE HAVE THE HD, AND
THEY EVEN DO LOOK
BETTER. AND THINK
ABOUT THAT. AND GET
OUT YOUR BIBLE AND
GET OUT YOUR NOTES,
THIS WILL BE A GREAT
DAY FOR YOU. LOVE IS
A RUNNING THEME
THROUGHOUT THE
SCRIPTURES.
>>DAVID: AND YES
PREDOMINANTLY IN THE
NEW TESTAMENT, BUT
THIS IS FROM GENESIS
TO REVELATION AND THE
CONCEPT AND THE NEED,
AND THE NEED FOR LOVE
AND ITS VALUE, AND
IT IS A REQUIREMENT
OF GOD THAT WE HAVE
LOVE, THAT WE SHARE
LOVE AND THAT WE
WOULD RECEIVE HIS
LOVE. AS A MATTER OF
FACT, THE FIRST
ASPECT OF THE
CHRISTIAN LIFE IS TO
RECEIVE THE LOVE OF
GOD, AND THEN WE CAN
LOVE.
>>HERMAN: IS THIS
ALWAYS INTERPRETED,
THE SAME WAY? AND
THERE ARE DIFFERENT
INTERPRETATIONS OF
LOVE, RIGHT? AND
WHAT WOULD THEY BE?
>>DAVID: AND IN THE
GREEK, AND YOU HAVE
THE LOVE OF THE
BROTHERLY LOVE, AND
LIKE PHILADELPHIA,
AND THEN YOU HAVE THE
ROMANTIC LOVE, LIKE
EROTICA LOVE, AND
YOU ALSO HAVE THE
*** LOVE, AND WE
HAVE THE LOVE OF GOD,
AND WILL BE TALKING
ABOUT THAT, AND WE
HAVE THE LOVE, AND
MAYBE YOU HAVE A
A LOVE FOR OKLAHOMA.
AND I WAS RAISED
THERE, AND WHEN I GO
TO MY HOMETOWN, AND
I HAVE THE SENSE OF
WARMTH AND
WELL-BEING, AND THAT
IS A HOME-TYPE LOVE,
AND IN THE GREEK
LANGUAGE, AND WHAT
THEY SAID WAS, AND
THEY WOULD CHOOSE THE
APPROPRIATE WORD,
AND THIS IS WHAT WE
WANT TO TALK ABOUT
AND WE TAKE THE WORD
LOVE, LIKE THE LOVE
OF GOD, AND WE HAVE
THIS IN THE GREEK AND
THE NEW TESTAMENT.
AND THIS IS NOT WHAT
WE THINK.
>>HERMAN: OKAY,
AGAIN, NOW LISTEN TO
THIS AND THESE WOULD
BE FROM HIS NOTES,
DAVID'S NOTES, AND
JOHN SAYS, AND IF YOU
DO NOT LOVE, YOU DO
NOT KNOW GOD, FOR
GOD IS LOVE. AND AT THE
SAME TIME, THE BIBLE
GIVES US A STRONG
WARNING ABOUT NOT TO
LOVE, AND WE ARE NOT TO
LOVE THE WORLD.
OKAY, AND THAT WOULD
BE TWO DIFFERENT
TYPES, AND THEY
WOULD BE TWO
DIFFERENT
INTERPRETATIONS.
>>DAVID: AND YES, THE
SAME WORD, BUT A
DIFFERENT
APPLICATION, AND
THIS IS THE ESSENTIAL
CHRISTIAN LIFE AND
YOU CANNOT BE A
BELIEVER, AND NOT
HAVE RECEIVED LOVE
THE FIRST, AND THEN
NOT HAVE LOVE. IT IS
CONTRARY TO THE
DEFINITION OF BEING A
BELIEVER, AND GOD
HIMSELF IS LOVE AND
IF YOU ARE BORN OF
GOD, YOU MUST HAVE
HIS ESSENCE. AND HE
DOES NOT JUST HAVE
LOVE, BUT HE IS LOVE,
AND IF WE ARE BORN
OF GOD WE WOULD LOVE
THE PEOPLE AND THAT
WOULD BE A PART OF
OUR LIVES. AND THE
BIBLE FORBIDS US AND
RESTRICTS US AND
RESTRAINS US FROM
HAVING THAT LOVE TO
THE WORLD. AND SO,
AND WE HAVE TO FIGURE
OUT WHAT IT MEANS,
AND WHAT THE
PROVISION WOULD BE.
>>HERMAN: I WAS
READING, THE OTHER
DAY, AND PERTAINING
TO YOUR NOTES. AND
FIRST JOHN 2, AND IT
SAYS, STOP LOVING
THE WORLD. YES
>>DAVID: THAT WOULD
BE IMPERATIVE.
>>HERMAN: AND HOW DO
YOU PULL THAT OFF?
BECAUSE, I MEAN
EVERY DAY AND WE ARE
CONNECTED TO THIS
WORLD.
>>DAVID: AND YES, IT
WOULD BE SIMILAR,
AND YOU SHOULD KNOW
THAT YOU DO IT. AND
SO MANY TIMES, AND
PEOPLE OVEREAT, AND
THEY DENIED THAT THEY
ARE EATING IN BETWEEN
MEALS, AND THE FIRST
STEP TO RESTRICT IN
YOUR CONSUMPTION OF
FOOD THAT YOU WILL
ADMIT THAT YOU EAT
MORE THAN WE SHOULD,
AND WE ARE LYING TO
OURSELVES, AND THE
FIRST STEP TO LOVE
THE LORD AND NOT THE
WORLD, WOULD BE TO
ADMIT THAT YOU DO,
AND IN WHAT WAYS YOU
LOVE THE WORLD, OR
ELSE YOU CAN NEVER
STOP. AND IF YOU
THINK YOU DON'T LOVE
THE WORLD AND MAYBE
YOU ARE NOT
MATERIALISTIC, AND
YOU ARE NOT SELFISH.
AND WHEN YOU REALLY
ARE DOING THOSE
THINGS, YOU CAN NEVER
AND STOP UNTIL YOU
ADMIT IT. AND THAT
WOULD BE THE FIRST STEP.
>>HERMAN: AND I
CANNOT SEE THE
SCREEN, AND THIS,
AND THIS PERTAINS TO
THE LOVE AND WHICH
ONE OF THOSE
INTERPRETATIONS?
>>DAVID: AND THE
WORD IS THE LOVE OF
GOD, AND HE SAYS
DON'T HAVE THE LOVE
OF GOD FOR THE WORLD,
AND IF YOU LOVE THE
WORLD, AND THAT KIND
OF LOVE, AND THE LOVE
OF THE FATHER WOULD
NOT BE IN HIM AND
THAT WOULD BE
CONFLICTING. THIS IS
NOT WHAT WE THINK IT
IS AND I DON'T WANT
TO JUMP AHEAD TO FAR,
BUT THIS LOVE, IT
IS NOT JUST CHRISTIAN
LOVE OR GODLY LOVE,
IT IS A BROADER
DEFINITION THAN JUST
THAT. IT WILL APPLY
TO HOW WE RESPONDED
TO GOD AND HOW WE
LOVE EACH OTHER, BUT
HE HAS A BROADER
APPLICATION, AND WE
CANNOT HAVE THIS LOVE FOR
THE WORLD, AGAPE LOVE.
>>HERMAN: AND YOUR
LOVE FOR YOUR WIFE,
COLLEEN, AND WHAT
WOULD THAT BE?
>>DAVID: AND THAT
WOULD BE INCLUSIVE
OF MY LOVE FOR GOD
AND HIS LOVE FOR ME
AND THE BIBLE SAYS WE
SHOULD LOVE GOD WITH
ALL OF OUR HEARTS AND
ALL OF OUR MIND. AND THAT
IS NOT EXCLUSIVE,
BUT IT IS THE ALL
THAT YOU ARE AND ALL
THAT YOU DO YOU LOVE
GOD, AND EVERYTHING
ELSE MUST FALL IN
LOVE WITH THAT. AND
THE BIBLE SAYS THAT
WE SHOULD LOVE OUR
WIVES, AND IT SAYS
WE SHOULD LOVE OUR
CHILDREN, AND WE ARE
TO LOVE THE WORD.
AND WHEN IT SAYS THAT
YOU LOVE GOD WITH ALL
OF YOUR HEART AND NOT
HIM ONLY, BUT YOU
LOVE HIM PRIMARILY.
AND PREDOMINANTLY.
>>HERMAN: AND WHAT
YOU WERE SAYING?
>>DAVID: AND YES, IT
WOULD BE THE LOVE OF
GOD, THE LOVE OF GOD
AND FOR GOD. AND
ALSO WE LOVE ONE
ANOTHER, AND THE
WORD LIKE FRIENDSHIP
LOVE, BUT WE USE THE
WORD LOVE BECAUSE IT
WHAT IT MEANS.
>>HERMAN: AND GOD
WOULD BE, AND GOD
WOULD BE THE ONE END
OF I SAY I LOVE YOU,
AND HE KNOWS WHAT
LOVE I JUST CHOSE?
>>DAVID: HE WOULD
KNOW, AND YOU MIGHT
NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT
YOU HAVE SAID AND WE
DON'T UNDERSTAND LOVE
VERY WELL, AND LOVE
IS DESIRE AND
PASSION, AND HOW MUCH
I WANT SOMETHING TO
INDULGE MYSELF. AND
WE MUST DEFINE LOVE.
HE KNOWS WHAT WE
MEAN. AND WHEN JESUS
SAYS, IF YOU LOVE ME,
YOU WILL KEEP MY
COMMANDMENTS.
THIS IS SOMEHOW
REFLECTED IN OUR
OBEDIENCE TO GOD AND
NOT A PASSION
NECESSARILY, BUT YOU
MUST HAVE FAITH.
>>HERMAN: YOU CANNOT
KEEP THE
COMMANDMENTS?
>>DAVID: AND YOU
CANNOT KEEP THEM
WITHOUT FLAW, BUT
OUR GOAL IS TO KEEP
THEM IN A LOVE FOR
GOD, AND WE WANT TO
LIVE BY HIS
COMMANDMENTS, AND WE
CAN FAIL ALONG THE
WAY HOWEVER.
>>HERMAN: AND THIS IS
SOMETHING WE REPEAT,
AND I LOVE IT, AND IN
SCHOOL, AND I WANTED
THE TEACHERS TO
REPEAT WHAT THEY
SAID, AND I WOULD
MISS IT, AND YOU
MIGHT GET SOME
REPETITION HERE, AND
I LIKE THAT, AND THE
WORD LOVE IS A
TRANSLATION OF THE
GREEK WORD, AGAPE LOVE.
IT IS ALWAYS THAT?
AND IF YOU ARE
PREACHING, AND YOU
USE THE TERM LOVE, IN
YOUR PRESENTATION OF
WHATEVER THE SUBJECT
WOULD BE AND WHAT IT
MIGHT BE, AND THE
WORD LOVE MIGHT BE
THERE, IT WOULD BE
THE LOVE OF GOD?
>>HERMAN:
>>DAVID: I WAS
MEETING IN THE
PASSAGE, AND IN THE
BOOK OF THE NEW
TESTAMENT, IT IS THE
LOVE OF GOD AND IN
THIS PASSAGE, RIGHT
HERE, AND NOT LOVE
THE WORLD AND THE
WORD IS THE LOVE OF
GOD, AND THE CONCEPT,
AND THE POPULAR
DEFINITION OF THE
LOVE OF GOD IS
CHRISTIAN LOVE, AND
DIVINE LOVE. HE SAYS
DON'T HAVE THE DIVINE
LOVE, AND DO NOT
HAVE DIVINE LOVE,
CHRISTIAN LOVE FOR
THE WORLD. YOU
CANNOT AND IT IS
IMPOSSIBLE. AND THIS
CANNOT MEAN THIS. IT
MEANS SOMETHING ELSE,
AS A MATTER OF FACT
IN JOHN 3:19, AND
THE BIBLE SAYS MEN
LOVED DARKNESS
BECAUSE THEIR DEEDS
ARE EVIL, AND THE
WORD THERE IS LIKE
THE LOVE OF GOD.
THEN HAVE THE LOVE OF
GOD FOR DARKNESS,
BECAUSE THEY COMMIT
SIN.
>>HERMAN: AND YOU
HAVE THE LOVE OF GOD,
AND FOR CHRIST
BECAUSE HE HAS DONE
SOMETHING FOR YOU?
>>DAVID: IT IS NOT
CHRISTIAN LOVE OR
DIVINE LOVE AND IT IS
SOMETHING ELSE, AND
AS A WORKING
DEFINITION TO
UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY
MEAN, IT IS TO HIGHLY
TREASURE AND, AND TO
DESIRE SOMETHING
BECAUSE YOU PLACE
VALUE ON IT. THE
LOVE OF SIN, AND WE
HAVE PLACED A VALUE
ON OUR SINS. AND WE
HAVE BEEN DECEIVED
INTO THINKING
DARKNESS WILL FULFILL
US, IT WILL GIVE A
SATISFACTION AND
CONTENTMENT AND WE
LOVE IT BECAUSE OF
THE VALUE THAT WE
HAVE ON IT. IT IS A
PRIORITY.
>>HERMAN: DO WE KNOW
WE LOVE IT?
>>DAVID: IF WE WILL
BE HONEST WITH
OURSELVES. YES. AS
CHRISTIANS, AND WE
TEND TO DISMISS OUR
TENDENCY TO LOVE THE
WORLD, AS CHRISTIANS
AND WE STILL HAVE THE
TENDENCY TO LOVE THE
WORLD, AND WE LIVE
IN THE PHYSICAL
WORLD.
>>HERMAN: LET'S MOVE
ON, THE COMMAND
>>DAVID: DO NOT LOVE?
IT MEANS DO NOT
HIGHLY TREASURE OR
DESIRE OR PLACE A
MOTIVATIONAL VALUE ON
WHATEVER HE WAS GOING
TO SAY YOU CANNOT
HAVE AND THAT WOULD
BE THE WORLD. AND
DON'T LOVE THE WORLD.
DO NOT HIGHLY
TREASURE OR DESIRE OR
PLACE YOUR
MOTIVATIONAL VALUE ON
THE WORLD, THIS IS
TO BE ON GOD, WE ARE
TO TREASURE AND TO
VALUE AND TO DESIRE,
AND PUT OUR
MOTIVATIONS UPON GOD.
>>HERMAN: HOW DO YOU
PULLED THAT OFF?
>>DAVID: AND YOU MUST
BE AWARE, AND THIS
IS NOT YOUR NATURAL
TENDENCY AND GOD
BLESS DAVID, AND THE
BIBLE SAYS HE CAN
WILL AND TO DO OF HIS
GOOD PLEASURE AND,
AND YOU MUST SUBMIT
YOUR HEART AND MIND
TO GOD AND YOUR BODY
AND YOUR HEART AND
MIND IS SINFUL, AND
THE APOSTLE PAUL SAYS
WHAT I DO NOT WANT TO
DO, AND THERE IS A
WAR ON THE INSIDE OF
ME, AND LORD GOD
KEEP THAT, AND
DEVELOP AND ME A LOVE
INSIDE OF ME. AND
THAT WOULD BE
FORTIFIED BY
SCRIPTURE READING AND
BY YOUR OBEDIENCE.
IS LIKE IT IS LIKE A
CIRCLE AND ONE OF
THESE THE OTHER, AND
AS WE HAVE SORT OF
THE WORD AND WE PRAY
AND WE OBEY AND IT
FOSTERS IN US A LOVE
FOR GOD.
>>HERMAN: AND YOU
SAY, IT IS THE
PHYSICAL AND MATERIAL
REALM IN WHICH WE
LIVE. OKAY.
>>DAVID: THAT WOULD
BE THE COSMOS. AND
IT IS TALKING ABOUT
THE PHYSICAL PART OF
OUR LIVES.
>>HERMAN: AND THE
WORLD, IT WOULD BE
THE WORLD HERE?
>>DAVID: AND YES THE
PHYSICAL WORLD. AND
WE ARE NOT TO PLACE
ANY VALUE ON IT, AND
WE SHOULD APPRECIATE
IT, AND WE SHOULD
ENJOY IT, AND THE
BIBLE SAYS THAT. WE
SHOULD APPRECIATE IT.
BUT WE CANNOT HAVE
THE LOVE OF GOD FOR
IT. WE CANNOT HAVE
LOVE ON IT LIKE WE DO
FOR GOD, EVEN THOUGH
WE VALUE IT, AND WE
SHOULD MAKE IT OUR
PASSION, AND WE
SHOULD MAKE THAT THE
FOCAL POINT OF OUR
LIVES, AND THIS IS
THE PHYSICAL WORLD.
AND THAT WOULD BE ALL
OF ITS PLEASURES.
>>HERMAN: ACTUALLY,
THIS WOULD BE THE
EXAMPLE OF WHY THE
MORE WE HAVE, AND
THE MORE THINGS WE
HAVE, AND THE MORE
EXPENSIVE THINGS WE
HAVE AND THE BIGGER
THE HOUSE, AND THE
MORE ACCESS TO
VACATIONS AND
WHATEVER, AND THE
MORE WE HAVE THAT,
IT COULD BECOME
SOMETHING THAT WE
JUST DO NOT WANT
TO LOSE.
>>HERMAN: IT IS A
DELICATE BALANCE
>>DAVID: AND WE
HAVE THESE THINGS TO
ENJOY, AND GOD DOES
NOT WANT US TO WORK
UNTIL WE PASS OUT AND
DO IT AGAIN AND AGAIN
AND HE CREATED THE
SABBATH, AND HE DOES
WANT US TO REST. AND
WE HAVE GOOD FOOD TO
ENJOY. WE HAVE THE
PLEASURES OF LIFE AND
WE SHOULD ENJOY THEM
BUT INTO PROPER
PERSPECTIVE AND IN
PROPER PROPORTION.
AND WE OVERINDULGE
AND WE CANNOT STOP
PUSHING THE BUTTON
LIKE THE RATS, AND
THE PELLETS COME OUT,
AND THEY CANNOT STOP
PUSHING THE BUTTON
BECAUSE THEY WANT TO
CONTINUE TO EAT. WE
OVERINDULGE AND WHAT
GOD HAS GIVEN TO US
AND BECOMES THE VERY
FOCUS OF OUR LIVES TO
HAVE MORE. AND THIS
IS WHAT JESUS SAYS IN
MATTHEW 6. DON'T
LAY UP FOR YOURSELVES
TREASURES ON THE
EARTH, AND WHERE THE
MOTH AND RUST DESTROY
AND THE THIEVES CAN
STEAL FROM YOU, BUT
LAY UP TREASURES IN
HEAVEN AND WHERE HE
CANNOT BE DESTROYED,
AND WHERE YOUR
TREASURE IS, THAT IS
WHERE YOUR HEART WILL
BE ALSO. HE SAYS DO
NOT DO THAT, AND HE
ALSO SAYS STOP DOING
IT. WE HAVE THE
TENDENCY TO DO IT.
AND THIS IS WHY AS
BELIEVERS, AND WE
WOULD SAY FOR THE
LAST 30 YEARS, LET'S
SAY, AND WE MUST BE
HONEST, AND WE MUST
REASSESS HOW ATTACHED
ARE WE TO THE
PHYSICAL WORLD? AND
WE HAVE DENIED
THAT WE ARE, BUT WE ARE.
>>HERMAN: IF I WAS
SPEAKING TO A
MULTIMILLIONAIRE, AND
MAYBE HERE, AND
MAYBE HE WOULD TALK
ABOUT WHAT HE HAS.
HE WOULD BE THE FIRST
TO SAY THAT THEY DO
NOT HAVE ME.
>>DAVID: WE ALL LIKE
TO SAY THAT, BUT FOR
ALL OF US, AND OUR
POSSESSIONS POSSESS
US THAN MORE THAN WE
WANT TO ADMIT, AND
WE HAVE GOT TO LOOK
AT THIS ON A DAILY
BASIS.
>>HERMAN: I MEAN,
AND JUST SAYING TO
MYSELF, I DO NOT
WANT TO HANG ON TO
THE THINGS OF THE
WORLD AND I WANT THE
LORD ALONE. AND
SAYING THAT, AND WHAT
DOES THAT DO?
>>DAVID: IT IS THE
STARTING POINT, AND
WE ADMIT THAT WE HAVE
THE POTENTIAL AND
MORE THAN LIKELY, WE
HAVE THAT REALITY,
AND IF YOU ARE A
HUMAN BEING, THIS IS
THE WAY WE ARE. WE
MUST ADMIT IT, AND
WE ASK GOD FOR HELP.
AND IN THE NEW
TESTAMENT, AND THE
REMEDY WOULD BE
GENEROSITY. IT WOULD
BE AN EXERCISE TO
GIVE AWAY THE STUFF
AND TO RELEASE THE
GRIP ON US. EVEN IF
WE THINK WE DON'T
HAVE A GRIP ON IT,
WE DO. IT HAS A GRIP
ON US. AND
GENEROSITY AND GIVING
IS A WAY TO RELEASE
THAT, BUT IT SHOULD
BE A HOLY
EXPERIENCE AND
REMINDING OURSELVES,
AND WE SHOULD BE A
GOOD STEWARD. AND
GOD HAS BLESSED HIM
WITH ABUNDANCE, AND
SOME HAVE VERY LITTLE
AND THEY ARE BOTH
DESIGNED FOR THEIR
LIVES.
>>HERMAN:
DOES HE GIVE PEOPLE
WHO HAVE THE BAPTISM
OF THE HOLY GHOST AND
PEOPLE THAT HAVE THE
SPIRIT AND DOES HE
GIVE THEM A BETTER
UNDERSTANDING OF THE
TERM LOVE?
>>DAVID: NO. NO. IT
IS A FRUIT OF THE
SPIRIT, AND AS WE DO
NOT QUENCH AND GRIEVE
THE HOLY SPIRIT IT
SURFACES IN OUR LIFE.
IT IS NOT A PART OF
OUR LIVES, BUT IT IS
A FRUIT OF THE
SPIRIT. AND AS WE
OBEY THE SCRIPTURES,
AND AS WE COMMUNE
WITH GOD,
AND WE DON'T GRIEVE
THE HOLY SPIRIT IN
OUR ATTITUDES AND
WORDS AND ACTIONS THE
LOVE BEGINS TO GROW
AND IT COMES OUT.
BUT WE TEND, AND WE
DON'T REALIZE IT,
AND WE CAN GRIEVE THE
HOLY GHOST, AND IT
DOES NOT MATTER WHO
YOU ARE, AND MAYBE
EVANGELICAL OR
CHARISMATIC, THAT
WOULD NOT BE
IMPORTANT. ARE YOU
GRIEVING THE HOLY
SPIRIT THE WAY YOU
THINK AND WHAT YOU
THINK ABOUT? AND WHAT
YOU SAY, AND WHAT YOU
DO? AND THAT WILL
GRIEVE THE HOLY
SPIRIT.
>>HERMAN: IT WOULD
BE WONDERFUL, AND
MAYBE BEING BAPTIZED,
AND ALL OF THE TERMS
THAT THE PREACHERS
USE, AND THE
EVANGELIST, AND IT
WOULD BE WONDERFUL
AND IF YOU ACQUIRED
THIS, AND THEN YOU
DID NOT HAVE THAT WE
ARE TALKING ABOUT
NOW, AND WHAT YOU ARE
AWARE OF.
>>DAVID: AND THIS IS
NOT THE WAY OF THE
CHRISTIAN LIFE AND HE
IS DISCIPLESHIP AND,
WE TAKE UP OUR CROSS,
AND THIS IS NOT JUST
SOMETHING HITTING YOU
AND YOUR PROBLEMS ARE
RESOLVED, AND THIS
IS TO
ENLIVEN YOUR SPIRIT
AND THIS WILL ALLOW
YOU TO RESPOND TO HIS
WORK SO THAT YOU CAN
MANIFEST THE
QUALITIES OF CHRIST
AND YOU CAN LIVE LIKE
JESUS AND YOU CAN BE
A GODLY EXAMPLE,
AND ALL OF THE
ADMONITIONS OF THE
NEW TESTAMENT, WOULD
BE ABOUT DISCIPLINE
AND SACRIFICE AND
SELF-DENIAL AND
OBEDIENCE, AND
CRUCIFYING YOUR
FLESH. BECAUSE OUR
TENDENCY IS TO FEED
OUR FLESH. AND THERE
ARE NO IMMEDIATE
SPIRITUAL CURES
EXCEPT FOR SIN AND
FOR SALVATION AND THE
REST IS DONE THROUGH
A FAITH FILLED
OBEDIENCE TO GOD AND
WE MATURE AND GROW IN
FAITH.
>>HERMAN: AND THE
MEANING OF THE IDEA,
DON'T LOVE THE WORLD,
IT WOULD BE A
STATEMENT, AVERAGE
LOVE IS TO BE
SUBJECT TO GOD.
>>DAVID: AND
WHEN HE SAYS
DON'T LOVE THE WORLD,
AND THIS WOULD BE WE
DON'T APPRECIATE
WORLD, AND WE SHOULD
THANK GOD FOR THIS
BEAUTIFUL CREATION AND HIS
DESIGN, OR MAYBE TO
ENJOY THE DELICIOUS
STRAWBERRY THAT GOD
HAS CREATED. HE IS
SAYING, IT WOULD BE A
COMPARISON, AND WE
SHOULD NEVER BE
OVERWHELMED, AND WE
SHOULD NEVER
OVERSHADOW OUR LOVE
FOR GOD. THAT SHOULD
BE THE PREDOMINANT
LOVE IN OUR LIVES AND
EVERYTHING ELSE
SHOULD FALL IN LINE
WITH THAT PATHWAY
THAT WOULD BE CREATED
BY OUR LOVE FOR GOD.
>>HERMAN: AND THE
WORLD MEANS?
>>DAVID: IT IS ALSO
THE PHILOSOPHICAL ATTITUDES,
PHILOSOPHICAL AND IT
BECOMES DESTRUCTIVE,
AND WE KNOW WE'RE NOT
SUPPOSED TO LOVE A
PHYSICAL THING, AND
WE SHOULD NOT LOVE IT
AND WE SHOULD WORSHIP
GOD IN SPIRIT AND IN
TRUTH
BUT IT ALSO MEANS
THE PHILOSOPHY OF THE
WORLD AND THE WORLD'S
WAYS AND THEIR
ATTITUDES. THIS IS
WHERE WE FALL SHORT
IN THE CHURCH TODAY
WE WILL EMBRACE THE
WORLD'S PHILOSOPHIES,
WE WILL EMBRACE THE
TECHNOLOGY, AND HE
CAN BE A TOOL. BUT
WE EMBRACE THE MORAL
PHILOSOPHIES IN THE
LAST 10 YEARS, WE
HAVE CHANGED OUR
POSITION ON WHAT THE
BIBLE SAYS ABOUT
HOMOSEXUALITY. NOT
BECAUSE THE BIBLE HAS
CHANGED, BECAUSE THE
CULTURE HAS BECOME SO
PRO-HOMOSEXUAL, WE
WANT TO BE CONNECTED
TO THE WORLD AND WE
DO NOT WANT TO BE
CAST ASIDE OR
OSTRACIZED, WE WANT
TO BE HEARD, WE WANT
TO BUILD A BRIDGE.
IF WE ARE HONEST, AND
MAYBE WE WANT THEIR
ACCEPTANCE.
>>HERMAN: IF YOU
READ WHAT THE BIBLE
SAYS, AND THEY DON'T
HEAR THIS LIKE GOD
SAYS, THIS WOULD BE
HIS WORD, AND THEY
SAY THIS IS WHAT YOU
SAY. AND THEN YOU
ARE A HOMOPHOBE.
>>DAVID: AND
YES, SO I HAVE
TO DEFEND MYSELF, AND
I DON'T LOOK LIKE A
FOOL AND THEN I WILL
MODIFY BUT GOD HAS
SAID. AND THIS IS
THE WAY WE LOVE THE
WORLD AND WE LOVE THE
PHILOSOPHY AND BE A
SECONDS AND THE
APPLAUSE, AND SO
MANY MINISTRIES ARE
DESIGNED AROUND
PLEASING THE WORLD
AND THE WORLD WANTS
US TO RESOLVE HUNGER
OR DISEASE AND AIDS
AND ILLITERACY, AND
RACISM. AND WE HAVE
TAKEN THESE THINGS,
AND THIS IS THE CALL
OF THE CHURCH.
>>HERMAN: WE HAVE
FOUR MINUTES, AND
TALK ABOUT WHAT THIS
MEANS.
>>DAVID: AND WE LOVE
THE WORLD, AND WE
WANT ITS QUALITIES
AND THIS MEANS,
AND IT IS NOT JUST
AN APPRECIATION AND
THIS IS A DESIRE AND
A HUNGER AND *** FOR
IT, AND AS WE HAVE
WHAT THE WORLD HAS
ABOVE GOD AND WHAT HE
HAS FOR US, AND THAT
WOULD BE TREASURES IN
HEAVEN, AND WE HAVE
THE PRIDE OF LIFE TO
WANT WHAT WE VALUE
RATHER THAN WHAT GOD
VALUES, AND THIS IS
WHAT IT SAYS AND THE
*** OF THE FLESH AND
THE PRIDE OF LIFE,
AND WHEN THE
OPPORTUNITIES, AND WE
DESIRED THESE THINGS,
AND MORE THAN WHAT
GOD WANTS AND THAT IS
LOVING THE WORLD. AND
WE MIGHT SAY WE WERE
TEMPTED, BUT HOWEVER
YOU SAY IT, YOU ARE
LOVING THE WORLD MORE
THAN YOU LOVE GOD.
AND THAT WOULD BE AND
THEY WOULD SAY THAT
WOULD BE IDOLATRY AND
YOU LOVE THAT MORE
THAT GOD. AND THIS
IS SO CONTRARY TO
LOVING THE FATHER,
THE TWO, CANNOT
EXIST TOGETHER AND
THE BIBLE SAYS IF YOU
LOVE THE WORLD YOU
DON'T HAVE THE LOVE
OF THE FATHER. IT IS
SO CRITICAL FOR THE
CHURCH AND TO LOVE
GOD AND NOT THE
WORLD, AND HE SAYS
HIS LOVE IS NOT IN US
IF WE LOVE THE WORLD.
AND THE WORLD IS
EQUATED TO DARKNESS,
AND HE SAYS THIS IS
COMPLETELY
INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE
LIGHT OF FAITH AND
THAT WOULD BE AND
FIRST JOHN, AND THIS
IS THE MESSAGE THAT
WE HAVE HEARD OF HIM
AND DECLARE TO YOU
THAT GOD IS LIGHT
AND THERE IS NO
DARKNESS IN HIM AND
APPRECIATED WE
FELLOWSHIP WITH HIM
AND WALK IN DARKNESS
AND WE ARE LYING AND
WE DON'T HAVE THE
TRUTH AND IF WE WALK
IN THE LIGHT AS HE IS
IN THE LIGHT AND WE
HAVE FELLOWSHIP ONE
WITH YOU AND OTHER,
AND THE BLOOD OF
JESUS CHRIST WILL
CLEANSE US FROM ALL
SIN. THIS IS WHAT
WE SHOULD ALL BE
ASKING AND HOW MUCH
OF MY LIFE IS IN THE
SHADOWS? AND WHAT IS
WALKING IN DARKNESS
WHEN I SAY I LOVE THE
LIGHT. AND THE BIBLE
SAYS YOU CANNOT WALK
IN THE LIGHT WITHOUT
THE LOVE OF THE
FATHER. AND IT TAKES
PRAYER, AND YOU SAY
YOUR HEART IS OPEN
AND YOU CAN REVEAL
THE WAYS IN WHICH I
HAVE SLIPPED BACK,
TO DARKNESS AND
PULLED ME BACK TO THE
LIGHT. AND IF WE
DON'T PONDER THESE
THINGS, AND BY OUR
TENDENCIES, AND WE
WILL SLIDE OVER THE
GRAY AREAS, AND SOON
THAT WILL BECOME
DARKNESS.
>>HERMAN: AND SHARE
HOW MUCH GOD LOVES
SOMEONE WATCHING
RIGHT NOW.
>>DAVID: AND THE
WONDERFUL THING ABOUT
LOVING THE WORLD, AND
GOD LOVES THE WORLD,
AND THE BIBLE SAYS HE
LOVES THE WORLD SO
MUCH THAT HE GAVE HIS
ONLY SON AND GOD IS
THE CREATOR, AND HE
IS HOLY AND PERFECT
AND HE CANNOT COMMIT
SIN AND HE DOES NOT.
AND IT WOULD BE FOR
HIS PURPOSE TO SAVE
THE WORLD AND
REDEEMED THE WORLD
AND TO RESTORE THE
WORLD TO ITS ORIGINAL
PLAN. AND WILL BE
TALKING ABOUT THAT IN
THE FUTURE AND THIS
IS THE WAY WE LOVE
THE WORLD WITH THE
COMPASSION OF GOD.
GOD LOVES YOU. GOD
LOVES YOU SO MUCH
THAT HE OFFERED UP
HIS SON AS A
SACRIFICE TO SAVE YOU
FROM YOUR SINS, AND
TO GIVE YOU ETERNAL
LIFE AND TO GIVE YOU
A HOME IN HEAVEN,
AND TO MAKE YOU A
PART OF HIS FAMILY
AND TO UNITE YOU WITH
OTHER BELIEVERS AND
SO YOU COULD BE A
PART OF THE BODY OF
THE CHURCH AND THIS
IS HOW MUCH GOD LOVES
YOU AND HE DID THIS,
AND THE BIBLE SAYS WE
LOVE GOD BECAUSE HE
FIRST LOVED US. IF
YOU ARE CONFUSED
ABOUT THE LOVE OF GOD
AND HOW MUCH GOD
MEANS TO YOU, AND YOU
COULD ABOUT YOUR
HEART AND ASK THE
LORD TO BRING OUT OF
YOU, A GODLY LOVE FOR
HIM THAT WOULD
RESPONDED TO HIS LOVE
FOR YOU AND THAT WILL
CHANGE HER LIFE AND
YOUR WALK.
>>HERMAN: IT IS THAT
EASY AND THAT'S
AMAZING AND WE HAVE
ACCESS TO ETERNAL
LIFE. BUT YOU MUST
MAKE THE DECISION AND
GOD BLESS YOU AND
GOODBYE.
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