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here we have had a number
of guests
who have represented different perspectives
about
Judaism
Islam
Israel
Palestine
Jews, Arabs
we've tried too
convene opportunities
for dialogue
for discussion
for thoughtful analysis
and for
encounter
and I expect that this evening
will continue that.
Jonathan Kay: It is very humbling to be here to introduce our doctor toughie comedic
uh... Dr. Tawfik Hamid and the reason is because in in my job job i do a lot of thinking and talking
I do lot of thinking and writing about all sorts of things including
including .. the war on terrorism
uh... and here i am with someone who actually has dedicated his life
to action in this field
and i think it's very humbling for all of us
to be in the vicinity of something like that.
I also find it very valuable experience because
over the
eight years Ive been a practicing journalist since nine eleven
i have
read probably thousands of articles
by people
purporting to explain to me the motivations of terrorists
i probably written a dozen to myself
um...
and what i've learned over time is that many of these articles
are specimens of what psychologists call projection
or you project
your own motives on other people
so that
if you have a marxist
whose purporting to explain why
terrorists attack
the west...they say...it's easy it's because of poverty it's because of
inequality
that's because we didn't go to Durbin.
uh...
if you would talk to someone who
there's an enemy of israel to so what's the solution is easy it's because israel
occupies gaza on the west bank and
than maybe maybe the entire did israel needs to be limited to to thermometers
but he talked with the word w bushel states because they hate freedom
if you talk to nome trotsky who'll say it's because of western imperialism
and the reason these people supply these explanations is because
in many cases they've dedicated their entire adult life to the underlying
cars and so they think any manifestation of violence anywhere in the world has
been traced to this
and it's this sort of of of thinking
that uh... dr topeka needless here to address
there or it may need people
who have
doctor who meets perspective
um... give you a little bit of background uh...
doctor henry came from a distinguished family needs it
uh... father was in the medical profession and uh... upper middle class
family
uh...
that that in itself to tell you something uh... about the relationship
between
tera recruitment and uh... in poverty
and but uh... what studied at university which of course as the even in this age
now is where many people around of course
and came into contact
with some very radical influences in cairo
uh... and one of them isn't none other than the i'm in the house i would hear
it
who some people miss remain oyez phenomenal number two uh... man in the
end of the outside organization
but many people believe to be
brains as of work behind calcutta
uh... so and
along with uh... maybe one or two others ranking as
the most infamous terrorist mindshareworld
uh... and dr hamid
essentially hadn't i witness
uh... perspective
individuals like this
and for a brief time
uh... became attracted to this radical ideology
and then pull back
and in the course of pulling back
uh... became a student of this ideology
realized it's lore
to millions of young muslim men around the world
and has now made it his life's work to explain
what this thread is in how to combat
as i said it's a very rare specimen someone who could come here and talk
with that perspective
because tragically
once you ensure
a terrorist organization it tends to be a lifetime commitment
and there are not many people who come back from the certificates parents they
are not many people who have the strength of character to pull themselves
back as an active ideological willem say
despite all the propaganda effort this is wrong
and i don't know exactly what doctor who meet is going to talk about
but i know that like the people in this room i interested
eight identifying
what the message was that he was exposed to during this period of radicalism
what were the forces within his character that allowed him to resist it
and how we can create a systematic program around the world in muslim
communities in muslim countries
that give
people
the tools
to resist
the stalks aggressive
and so what that might give your doctor toughie commuted
uh... thank you so much is pleasure and on it to be with you tonight
and thank you for this wonderful introduction and for being with us after
that
and i don't know really warren where i should the spot but i would start with
my story i was born
in inject in cairo nineteen sixty one
forty thirty sick in our family
my father was an orthopedic surgeon
my mother was a liberal french teacher
by uncle was the movie star
so this who own family
was was from
our family was not religious much my father was an atheist to be honest with
you and my my mother was not much interest into the release a religion was
far as just
thurmond on the gation early
some toys and watching tv
occasional frosting but not more than this
the fittest expedience
in my life that made me indirect touch
wheeze
dot or the almighty or the divine
wells when i was studying
the structure and function of the d_n_a_ molecules
it was not to my father muscle tradition of teaching
the first time we witness the existence of a careful for me was through the
d_n_a_ molecules
faulty visually speaks to me in this calculation
since then i developed motivation
knowing him
sorption for him
i'd just loved him justin passat
unfortunetly this
motivation toward got led me to join
some islamic group that
what bags then was
and ultimate dream for you as a mostly into satisfied dot to satisfy allow
to show in
in islamic dual and it was a jumanji slimy up
in our medical schools
i would share with you know the brainwashing tactics
that they use with me because it was not only with me it was his many other
students as well
neutralize our motivation toward dot
towards serving in poor serving the religion and the dialectic
in the bulk of evoking instead of props of group
it's like you have a nuclear
you can give life to assist the and you can destroy city was a simpler
this was the energy in me
that's all you want to to serve god what house
the first time the invited me to go to pray with sending the malls
in the medicare school it draws odds over a period
remit in front of head of the room
the anatomy
payment is someone called mostar mostar
was one of the leaders of these reminds them again
and mostar invited me to the most and why we were walking today that it was
walking on my life side he said to me looked old free
actually said look tonic because my area of namaste product by the way
he said he looked down
but most important listen you need to learn
exact
and for the group kofi
foot in arabic like a fifty dollar bifurcate default
and first one means to think fix
well for me is to become an infidel
so he simply conveyed the message for me that if i started to think
all you would be an intimate so sophisticated beaded you suppression of
mine critical thinking and that's why
when they talk about some new shoes for the problem i develop an educational
system
for young muslims to encourage critical thinking because they know what happened
to me
and i don't want of this to go into the same off so suppression of my critical
thinking was the very first is that
in fact he said to me mostar i would never forget
that day he said to me
your brain that is like just like a donkey
if you don't know that middle east it don't he represents what it's not public
citizen stupidity they said to me
your brain is just like a donkey
but don't you can help you to teach in the palace of their of all of the king
or ulo islam
within your reach the palace we do you think you'll donkey into the past
thirty leave it outside icici my leave empty outside and then he welcomed me in
so this was a very fair to seeing soft commission all my critical thinking
wired i was into the the the the mosque itself
it was very different from traditional more sex was the austin has to stand in
a speech here way
and see if we are at war we someone like the the the asking us to stand food
before chilled officialdom as if we are fighting an enemy and equal to deploy i
think this that sit in the law you had bolivia you'll talk to you in a few said
beating yourself up but love source will fight for his goals and nothing would be
on the muscles as if the r one segment of structural in one warlock sophie
leaving why it is we are praying but we were praying that you wanted to give us
the feeling that we have an enemy
gradually the yields also because the concept of hellfire in a very powerful
way they used to frighten us if we did informal what
that what they eat with good asking their relation
will go to hell and hellfire in in in
the however
culture is not sulfur leg ca
is not symbolic belefiville is that he had been fire
you are you aware is like you saw blumenthal piano or see from what i mean
the bullying water would be poured all but that heads etc
use hot will be enough people to lean once you do
it would be appalled that this was and that got not only at that point man on
the budget you'll go home
whenever this case are completely cooled and destroy it
by the health plan
but don't know who she will double a_ are highly ethel point out that would
replace it to his newest canes
so they become reporter but given the gin and again for f r
so it was frightening for process children young age to feel that
into an end like this if we did in full of this sos opa locka of hell fire was
using the wrong direction i'm not again as if i but i
i'm against using it
in that they are on the benediction okay you can tell me if you look painted your
to make a few love jordan a bed
you will go to hell fire and you can tell me if you hated your neighbor you
can go to hell fire incident energy and it depends on how you would direct
maddie in the middle east because marriage was very costly for many and
also if even if you have the money
traditionally and culturally it's unacceptable for students to money so it
was very difficult to money
the concept of having any extramarital relationship is strong be prohibited and
the more you become religion you know you would go to this mail for event
if you had any relationship you'll be have more suppression physiological
release of *** desires was even suppressed by dennis got us
so on one hand you have these support the suppression and on the other hand
you reading some books how women will be waiting out there in the paradise held
beautiful geog
was clear description of this beauty
so it's gonna get scammed by lance ito or mind and have to admit it that both
myself and many of my filho
people in the gym ice let me yeah
were ready to fight for a lot of opal pummeled by just to have sex
and as i summarize eight we had no single reason to stay here and
seventy-two rezone to go out there
cell so do you think if if you cannot give you an example of just to prove
this not prove at least the support of this statistic alley
you know the sunni and shiite fixing islam
uh... if you compare the number of seaside bonding insist suny well-armed
or in iraq for example still need to most of the struggle competitive shia
one of the reasons but not the only reason i get is one of the reasons
is that the xiang
have concept remove tom atached which is a temporary matters for enjoyment that
can last only one or two hours
the asked me how or why but this is a system that okay
any sex if the police yard theology
so a young chapel scandal
ni to hot
to go to paradise to have sex again have to tell you about house
and this is one of the contributing green zones
four the finale now that's more in this in the wild
this doesn't mean anyway she i would not believe the can do it so many ordered
young muslim to those who suddenly buat
that defrost in that he is on the one of the week for classics in paradise
they would be because the more you know modjeski ya
ordered them to do we get so z can still do you both for but for saver for other
reason
after
discussing this been washing tactics i would like *** just to go
to the big picture
the big picture
is simply what went wrong
many people ask distortion professor bernard lewis ave share of this
discussion is in one day to do that
what went wrong and he has a book about what went wrong
many people wonder why the middle east
fifty years ago or sixty years ago
muslims jews christians used to live
to be a bit in love and harmony
what happened
what happened exactly
simply three steps
if you lived in the star in the middle east
you will just summarize what happened in the same build cities states nothing
more than this
basically
number one the first it was
the arising over the the the the uh... saudi arabia
in in the area and this if you want to understand if you know i mean i a m
there were two ways of taxing islam at least at least two major ways there are
many but at least one of them was in saudi arabia which were represented what
we can call cell after you saw
typically terror understanding of the religion
and in this part of the world issues were
but i got killed or or to get out of the area consumes the same
we couldn't survive
arts and the music where completely suppressed
and wording
incomplete black and they were not allowed it
any rights
it was pretty tough
styles or stuff away understanding federation
and all or part of the world like outside these thirty of the desert
we have what we can cordoned sufi or mix of form of islam that was the rate at
the people don't i cannot claim that it was absolutely talk about it
it was a relatively tower because the jews and christians live as second-class
citizens
so i can say it was written to be much more tolerant because they said by it
music on option modest in the area
you'll hear about belly dancing in egypt and lebanon
but i don't think you will hear about that bailey solid answers
saw sought if there was a huge difference in the two types of
practicing their religion
so what happened to win
salvi became wealthy in the late seventies because of the petrol
we started to say to one another
lookout allot blessed
sarah will be we spectral we spend money and wealth
because thinking who the to too and that will fall spectral to islam and that's
why some people hold the paper we slum actually there were two threes from the
skype id
so we started to adult
their way of understanding the religion
with the haitian upstart a pretty fair to start to suppress women
the dissatisfied of understanding of the religious party to be made area
and this was the fed is this that
is the second district the captain
was between jim the level of jihad let me clarify this point because
is vital to understand what happened exactly after we adult kids that
tradition of that bestseller for teaching islam or be a very ruchika form
of teaching
we change it delivered a few hassle traditionally in inc according to show
you all
muslim nation should declare war on on mostly nations
to ask him for to offer them free
off-ox
this isn't in china i'm not talking the koran but ingenta in in publishing a
shoddy our teachings
toolbar leader convert to islam or to pay him a getting tax coaches yet or to
be killed
this is a traditional teaching baat
it was at nation level it was not at individual events
so i was suppose as a young muslim
to wait for the most in nation to be strong enough
to declare war on the west
it's a
and then i can join the sodomy
as to lose you hot i was not supposed to act that might fit as you're concerned
zone in the past individual basis
fashion boutique in defeating i should wait for that motivation to do it
so we indonesia marcus let me get groups and that a deacon groups on dilute does
that change myself
change in the middle of jihad from nation
responsive level responsibility to individual responsibility
we you will some dozens of koran and somehow the is the best was saying
foxtel tv steadily leading up to collect learn f suka
fight for the cause of all lined up on the responsible for yourself
and they took this first
and they built a julio theology that you have now is that those are
responsibility
action until a anymore foldable simple motivation to declare war and you are
you can do it myself
and this is a television of what you see all over the world from seaside bumbling
and small group terrorism
these people want to do is you have
but they don't that they are not ready to wait for the muslim nation to do if
they do it themselves
and his appointed to understand the twist of the meaning here
of the chicago ending these violent at meaning sits can be built in a peaceful
way but generally
they profit in in a violent man out
the twist is that happened many people say all the twisted the meaning of job
yes the twisted it
but the twist was not from a peaceful life
understanding
to violent one
but was draw wasp
from violent understanding to about a bit of clinton
that is that the fox
socialist happened i cattle denied
and ivy and i was there in the medical school n other groups
i witnessed the process of changing the theology itself
after this
so we imported better because teaching we change in the level of jack to make
it personally
instead of me waiting irene not back to you
and a third of the state laws
with you wonderful immigration policies you invited many of the job is to spread
all over the world
so they wouldn't deal to america to kind of that everywhere
so that we are saying is simple three steps
cell the world
and acceptance of this violent form of isom
changing in the level of gee huat
and then spread of the disease
christmas synthesizer
many people think it's complicated nice not was not
for me to a straightforward issue that's what's happening
rooney talk about
the this phenomena
is like in science we have to
think what again if it's in a few moments
sos activities like it diabetic goes home having problem now
we should think what a good visit is a publicity is that the stresses of
certain medications
is that an infection we have to look to the problem
in a holistic way and see what the debate six
so when we talk about
islamic radicalism or terrorism if you know me now
there are many things that can aggravate the port of end user
when the feel the wind out of the cult's feel that your week
i'm sure you'll remember very well that that that happened in kenya and tanzania
on the u_s_ ambassadors
remember in in nineteen ninety eight when they attacked the embassies in
kenya and tanzania be killed many people
and
the response back to that and do you remember refit was strong or weak
absolutely week
and this just in cody's been to launch another attack which was more powerful
and that is a problem he had to deal with an enemy that is they smell that
you're are weak
that he was just increase of attacks
it's the other way around it's the other way around they don't think in the same
logic as you think
you need to realize it's
the other factory is what is perceived as concession by them
i mean here sometimes certain good things that can happen in the west about
unfortunately that articles perceive them as weakness
i'm sure you remember the cup to issue of prophet muhammad bin
in but just the top and and they would've published the part of twins
were published in dot on the third is of september two thousand and five
until certain subject movie two cells and and six
there were officially no violent demonstrations all over the lot
noel violent demonstrations existed in for four months bt
do you know when violent demonstrations erupted
can you remember it erupted
spat listen listen seventy-two hours after the magazine in denmark
apologized
just imagine for four months speedy ought
i cannot blame them for the opposing obvious in people's
but the high want to emphasize that these important two-way our decisions on
our words and our responses to terrorism
anyway that does not inkatha's them
to to to to actually launch more attacks
so we need to have to be very careful about the balance between being decent
and being perceived as weak
we need this delicate balance
between being the son and polite and and owned one also keeping in our mind not
to be perceived as weak
it was a moment you are perceived as weak the actually think the fact that
you again
to get more concessions from evil
wouldn't the for the fact of that and if it's a problem in my view is
justification
when people mention this issue of poverty i i really enjoyed listening to
the list of things you mentioned poverty lack of democracy lack of education and
all this interesting stuff
but they never contributed to my article is asian process to be honest with you
when we talk about poverty would concede that allowed in was a billionaire and
and i was a lot of was from a wealthy family
i myself was not from a poor close at all
and many that menu a surgeon english england about hassen
and the younger terrorist in in virginia recently some of them in the dentist the
school's soul
none of them was complaining of severe perversity
but i kind of denied that that is that our nation should between poverty and
terrorist lobbyists' gifts the opposite of what we think
terrorism that brought proper brings poverty
because as you might give the terrorist to stop doing terrorism in iraq
what can happen in the economy
the same in gaza
and the palestinians have seriously cumple because they're calling it goes
down people don't want to invest investors believe the elia
so when this happened poverty is activated when poverty is activated it
becomes easier to be cooked by colonel denies he or she calld
soul liberty when when you see a reality
ed backing in and that statistical reality that majority all the covers
where from mo middle class
to high-class families in
you can realize it's not the calls
also lack of education most of them were highly educated as we have seen
lack of democracy daughter tourism and homegrown i think it is more curled in
london
in canada the
in u_s_
are you telling me this is because of lack of democracy in this part of the
world
and that is more important question is poverty and lack of education
and lack of democracy and american foreign policy
withdrawal calls
alba radicalism and terrorism
why these factors do not affect non muslims
who lives in the same socioeconomic caught circumstances
do the same degree at the optic muslims
tell me why christy and in the middle is lower subject to lack of democracy
poverty
the same levels of education do not become suicide bombay ribs
ronnie
if the clause was these factors we shouldn't distinguish between a muslim
or christian
what should i think the both of them
so we know that obviously
that polls when you people in insisted that the polls is poverty because of
lack of democracy actually yelling cut is their job is to dip
totaled more attacks
because they fear that all whatever we will do all these people would always
find justifications for us
but the most agree to cut one i think that's was his or was that is always
mention is the arab-israeli conflict
and let me ask one question here
can any sane individuals
on this panel
convince me that
caning more and then hundred and fifty thousand innocent and juliet
bone-chilling thirteen fence in front of their eyes
and suny killing she eisenach with no mercy and mutilating the date of the big
boat's
x approving the most she got in pakistan
disapproving steely resolve there for the most
if the arab-israeli conflict was the polls line muslims are killing one
another
just tell me
why do you accept all of the funerals and malls and markets
of their fellow muslims
so i think we have to think deeply about this
and when it comes to the issue of israel
and when i was young i was i was thinking that
foreseen that they are to use off palestinian spending
interested to one work in israel's
i haven't seen kilos of the israeli arabs
trying to defeat
that israel was suction apartheid the state
the discriminate against the arabs and he'd been and even the aid then
as the arab media always promote
why we haven't seen israeli arabs trying to escape from this to hell
and to to outside to other parts of the world
have you ever hear these you'll
it's of jewels spending in queues
travolta germany during the nazi
never
it's what the other way around the is scant so for those people who claim that
the israelis like that nazi and apartheid state than all of the stuff
are you say to them
this is unfair
this is truly unfair because when you see
buddy ality betty i think he is that
fills involve palestinians
we're always interested in and are all those interested towards the thing is
that i used to walk
if israeli was such backcountry
this wouldn't happen and we would have seen the opposite would have seen
thousands of palestinians
standing in the opposite views leaving israel to the arab world
third of the parliament that i would like to raise about the arab-israeli
conflict in this context is that
i think that that israel's
several times
the first thing i remember when i went to the airport
is the world
and set up
peace in arabic
i think was surprised
denied went we begin making in the car and i realize that
the streets science or rethinking handy
as well in addition to hebrew and english addict
i got some of the issue to myself
if this great country he's doing this for this minority out of minority as a
matter of respect and to make their life easier
how come some people have been keep of discrimination or resistant i think
these people should look to themselves first before we let me just right
there are many things to talk about that in this issue but aren't would like to
mentioned briefly some elements all of what we can corey formation within his
life
and how we can
address this problem the front to help out we can move from that
i'm not coming here just to tell you that is a problem
i'm coming here to tell you that that these assumptions
and that is still the solution can be complex i would not go
into the details all that the who spotty plan that i developed for solving the
problem
but i would focus specifically about
the use of religion
in which direction
can use religion
to make people love one another in a state of hate one another
to share with you a personally story
when i was young
hike was reading nd
in the broad after a loss of pay the fed the prayer in the day
and i i had a diverse that said talk too much dekhi hai to adjustable
killed the infidels whatever you find them
i'd just my conscience couldn't accept it
specially my neighbor was one for you
christian lady her name was pontiff rosier
and she was so kind to me and action is to love me and
and i just couldn't take it
so i do winter two is set up a friend will not be safe
remembering very well
and i said to him i did would you mind to just to it to me his explanation
interpretation of this versus it to me and we have to fight all these people
but we have to prepare for the students don't just have to wait and prepare for
them
and he assured me that a lot of reference hairs in the shaadi our books
to justify the concept of fighting at the ymca dot
high student fees that's fine
so i'm going to be solved this quarter
we're on the freemen being quotes sources in is a sort of mystical islam
through and if you're still facade which people moved the mix of one's darnell
martens they are good people
and he's the most shift job and old man
in another mosque i said to him she charmed on convinced kindly help me with
this verse
killed and for those wherever you find them
and chief shob and i still remember the moment he pat me on my shoulder like
this and he said to me my son
just love every human being and de groot was every human being
asserting the chief shop a
davis is in the koran what's coming too
he said to me
you know my teeth that we had
usa for singapore on which means in the day of judgment to understand the
meaning can come from
itself
so shift job and was very kind to human beings echo of the nineties yet
he couldn't give me theologically bass and sings
and i was in trouble
if i offered my father was an atheist and his friends i don't think she would
be able to give me an answer for an interpretation for the best so i have
three options now
like at least two options one of them is the one who's been using deeply for tea
and having a lot of theological support
another one who has agreed to heart but he didn't give me the theological
support
and for this particular result
i followed that up because for some petered in my life
so what happened here he is
their lack of theological base
first teach felt weak weaving islam to teach values of of
these and to stand against the violent addicts
of shoddy on those
what's fundamentals
from the main chill
to to make a change in my life and that is why i feel responsible for doing the
opposite so when i lifted the show my slovenia and defect from the moment i a
lefty twin windy actually asking me to matt ideologue theoretical
volumes into into reality diaz kidney to share with them
in kidnapping the police officer
deviate from the asian and digging the grave fourteen beside the most and and
bring the memo our life and integrative
suzie off of me to share in this is this was totally absolutely
beyond might might conscience to accept
and i started to think and i dejected of teaching from now on through another
story but what they want to say he argues that
during my jury i developed a complete new interpretation or comming terry for
the poor on that can
david young muslim theological base for peaceful understanding of the radiation
like for example
this particular vessel studentship enough people
to blame for those whatever is fine
i notice that all the violent verses in the horror on the talks about war
mosaic suppression and caffeine
it's like if i told you i'm going to to to it white house
how in the white house but the first that you are going to mel white house
that's very different then you can you specify demeaning
in time and a place to particular group of people
sold by noticing the robes of disease and hors d'oeuvres at the beginning to
albany in the in the violent verses
nearly all in fact all divide and takes about wars can be
limited in time and the players to specific group of people in the early
stages of islam
and cannot be inclement dot and our modern times again est in taiwan
sults input observation slide pics can make a huge difference
and and also i develop in egypt ational system that uses cognitive psychology
total solve the problem
i'm a medical doctor busy k but i have the grease and cognitive psychology as
well i developed a model of learning
call the multi-dimensional loading modeled accuses cognitive psychology to
facilitate the process of learning
so one of the things they did is i incorporated this in theology and
education for young muslims i developed the system and shipped one example is
you briefly
i noticed that one of the main problems that we hav in the muslim world is what
they can call suppression of human conscience
the tell us that
if something is higher than or there mister bush
how loud it means permissible
you can do it so people can go do polygamy nd beating women stoning women
whatever they like the did not and can be hit he wouldn't be needs
thinking is that it is how loud it is permissible by law by got
what you do you think twice
got himself took me to do it
so it is absolutely hot out there me some of the bill for it
how tommy has not got a miserable
so we we shop speaks without using our human conscience when we jobs things by
saying all it is hot out i can delete we gradually suppressed our human
conscience an ad then you you you have this kind of people who can do anything
amy even violent thing
without feeling that the other doing something wrong
so too old to make the conscious arad human conscience work i give over some
examples can you give me this couple votive please just because i i i don't
know it just that
for people with different from you and you
needed an example
i think
so i can bring some as well
and
so i did that by doing couple porter for banning modification of system and i say
to the children
his drinking this water now handout or how permissible or not permissible
pero how much what's wrong drinking water
it's not all twenty minutes whatever handout but miserable
visitors in the nation
if there is a human being that i think dying go fast and dehydration
andy field enter the slaughter he would have gone or she was gone
and if you gave it to him around
annually
cautiously
and then i ask the question again
is drinking this water now
how thailand
or how tom
permissible not permissible
some human being with the idea of the spinoff permissible ninety-four eulogy
concept also
forces by quoting the best in the peron that action dot debit was quoted the
thought which was very interesting i'm putting it on the farm but the best
quoted that for all
in the statement that said whoever gave life to any human being as if he gave
life to or not client
so i'm sure a bias letting the colossal we have the same one in the front quoted
from you
soul i_d_ theological support so when you see here like i'm actually having
the war
whizzer radicals but doctors military it's had the mind levels
veridical suppress critical thinking
i'm trying to make the children think
tution made the fact not just for the blindly but i think tells you as the
rote learning which he is just to memorize and they have some and repeat
things
and trying to use visual images and pictures sews at the images remained
bitter or won't become more conceded that in the end of march
i would like to raise is very important issue
but we need all to all too
understand it
that this war
is not a war
between
is ideal and the arabs or between the west
and and and the arab worlds all islam
it is a war
between civilization
and barbarism
moore
between
not we are you going to win this war
or we will lose all of civilization
wooden ait remembered the word civilization and how we can lucite
i would like to conclude we squeeze wees small
poll material one day
for wonderfully went b
i'm sure many of you will know him
his name was
danielle p_r_
you remember daniel here
it was the juror in the list who was beheaded could be kidnapped and the
editing pakistan in a very barbaric manner
rosa ferdinand and i couldn't sleep and i took the whole image and the small and
when you see the smart of dhanya pierce keith tells a story
it tells a story his smart
i couldn't sleep and i wrote some few whereas for him
but i would like to share with you now
i said to him
burning out
i would put it in arabic for his entrance laughed
we'll see more any land ought to look at usa net pay you might have been back
military parity
all use were not
ice with that
i would never delete your name to be a raised from the memory of history
wesat w_ smack at bhandari
and all you would write your name was mighty errors
westside through is smack of subcommittee
and i will call if you were name abductor of the mountains so that the
people of the will see
from out dot that he'll tell us
decade at that me and
we happened to only kill deal or that he uh...
bulk up a little hot
call off but that will help bulk ten lakh about malaysia
but they can do that he needed love
that meeting both both
ends at the names of the coming generations
awesome in
also made the any nico walked at the page
high school with your growing pains when the slaughter deal
will be a good night briefly kept their one amy
and the highest