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Alot of the things that I make do look like they are moving
really, really rapidly.
So I am kind of looking at that profile line.
It's interesting because there is a difference
between shapes and forms.
There is a paradox operating here.
This is a form, a three-dimensional thing,
but really how we perceive it is this edge - the difference
between it and the background.
So that profile line is what I play with all the time.
This is in the positive to give you pagodas but when I have the
people in between the pots then I am just working
on the negative.
So it's always about that profile line and how we
distinguish foreground and background.
I was always interested in optical illusions.
I remember I used to collect them.
I had books, I had lenticular photographs.
And it is also interesting at that point too,
I remember before I went to school,
seeing a TV show of a guy throwing a pot on the wheel
and I saw that and I thought, wow that's magic.
How does that guy do that?
I have to learn how to do that.
So essentially I have known from a really young age
that I wanted to do this.
And I look at people nowadays and they are still trying to
figure that out much later on.
But I had a good 10, 15 years on a lot of people
because I got obsessed with it really, really early.
So, you are supposed to think outside the box, right?
And a lot of people would say that's what I am doing.
But I would argue I am doing exactly the opposite.
I am inside this box and I am really getting into it, right?
There is as much room inside there and I am taking radial
symmetry, pottery, history of pottery,
all my weird sense of humour, things like that,
and I am investigating things full force in inner space as
much as people might want to jump outside that to do things
-which is completely valid.
But there is as much to deal within there and you can really
get into things and you can refine things
and you can find little gaps that you can find
really interesting stuff to do in.
That's kind of where I am.
I still like to make my things out of clay.
And have them be the centre of everything.
That's what it's about.
It's essentially that box.
I'm just really getting into it.
I've had a long life to do it, which is lucky.