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Thank you very much for allowing me to send you a video. I want to start by acknowledging
that Iím on Noongar boodja and I acknowledge the spirits of the traditional owners past
and present and youíve obviously done that where you are in Adelaide.
Iíd like to start by saying what a wonderful document this snapshot of young Australians
is, and to acknowledge that Di Hetzel has been a champion of getting out the best data
that we really have on many of the aspects, particularly the social determinants of child
health and wellbeing in Australia. So, Di, well done for what youíve done, and Fiona
Arney, itís lovely to be speaking for you and with you in your new role and I wish you
very well in that position in South Australia.
I love the quote of course ëIf you want to improve anything, first measure ití, and
thatís a quote as we know from UNICEF.
You answer in your own document here, why monitor? Why monitor the wellbeing of young
South Australians? ëAssessing how well our youngest members are doing can help us set
priorities and into the future serve as a guiding rail for keeping our efforts on track,
giving early warning of failure or success, and making us accountable for how well they
are doing. In short it allows us to celebrate successes and look to areas where further
effort may be required.í And you do that very well in this document.
But there are three more major reasons why I believe we need to have such measures. And
these relate to the broader societal reasons for measuring childrenís outcomes. Iím very
excited about being part of two projects; one an OECD global project which we are hoping
to introduce measures other than GDP to measure and foster the progress of societies, and
child wellbeing is right up there high on the list. ëIf GDP is what you measure, GDP
is what you get,í as Joe Stiglitz, the Noble Laureate economist said to our last OECD meeting,
and we know GDP is flawed anyway.
But is it all we want to be in our society; is have a financially competent society? What
about child wellbeing? What about inequalities? What about sustainable environments? What
about education? What about health? What about reduced carbon footprints and all the things
that are really important for the future health and wellbeing of our whole society?
So, the second project Iím involved in is an Australian National Development Index,
where we want to measure those things for Australia. The things that we value, like
child wellbeing and the care of children. Then those things we know are going to enhance
human capability for all people.
So these two projects are another major reason why you need to have very good data on children
and young people. Because that is where weíre going to get the biggest *** for our buck
and try and convince the politicians and bureaucrats that expenditure in those areas are as important
as any financial bottom line. So good on you South Australia for doing this snapshot.
Of course youíre coming along with the ARACY Report Card, and the other major reason therefore,
for producing documents like this is to benchmark Australia against the worldís best, to give
us something to aspire to. We canít just say, well Australiaís wealthy and itís doing
well and and itís got a boom in economic outcomes. But what are we doing in terms of
all of the social, the child and youth in the outcome measures and in a way therefore,
I donít like to say this, but about shaming our politicians and our policy makers? About
shaming our nation to act for children and young people? They so easily slip off the
agenda and they must not.
And the third reason I think that we must collect data is that children become adults
and the ways that we can nurture the early years from pregnancy and through childhood,
and young adulthood. That is the future of this country, and do we not need to have large
numbers of adults who are competent and who are going to participate civilly, economically,
socially? We need a lot of kids who are going to become great parents, for example.
So, your report has good and bad news and I think that youíve summarised that very
well in the document. Itís terrific to see youíre closing the gap at lowering infant
mortality in Aboriginal children. Thatís happening across the board in Australia, but
of course weíre seeing increases in low birthweight. The one thing that Iím very passionate about;
increasing pre-term and low birthweight, in both Aboriginal and non-Aboriginal mothers.
Now, thereís a whole lot of reasons that we think are causing that. Increasing multiple
births. I think thereís a higher fertility of high risk mothers. Weíre looking at this
a lot in WA, but thatís a hugely important indicator. One of the most important I think.
Itís a good social indicator but itís a good indicator of kids who are going to get
into trouble later on.
Your immunisation and breastfeeding data are terrific. Substance abuse is going down in
young people, which is great, and youíre holding the line on overweight and obesity.
And decaying teeth. I think this is a real issue for us. I donít know if its bottled
water or the fluoridation not having such great effect but the importance of getting
good teeth for kids we all know.
Now the bad news is about not having any good data, recent data, on certain outcomes like
mental health and asthma and I think thatís just something we must keep lobbying for.
Itís one thing Iím in retirement, is keeping up the lobbying and keeping up the advocacy
for more population data. Bringing it together. Linking all of the things we know are important.
We must just not let any of this fall of the agenda. Weíve got great data actually in
Australia. Weíve got to use it. Weíve got to have up to date data, and mental health
is such an important issue.
The child protection data you have is very extensive and, Fiona Iím sure this is in
your bailey wick. Some of its good. Some of the indicators are good and some of them are
not so good. Hugely important, and weíre part of, a now big international collaboration,
looking at pathways into and pathways out of child maltreatment. And getting the best
indicators. And this work was stimulated by Dorothy Scott, who said, ëWhy donít we have
a public health approach to child abuse and neglect?í And sheís absolutely right. And
weíre pursuing that with these international collaborative studies weíre doing.
The educational data that you have, again itís patchy. Some good and some bad. Iím
delighted to see the high proportion of Aboriginal children actually meeting benchmarks, as we
always say thereís a gap, and there is a gap, but letís look at the positive. Well
over 75 percent of Aboriginal children meeting some of those national benchmarks is going
to translate into good outcomes for those kids later on.
And I think that we need more data and better measures and we need to have inspirational
stories of children who are contributors. I know this is close again to your hearts.
Iíve just run a Festival of Ideas for the University of Melbourne in which we had a
whole session on children as contributors. So, ok thereís childrenís rights, but thereís
a huge benefit from children contributing and you donít have good measures on children
as contributors. They were all negative measures about how many children were being incarcerated,
and itís good that thatís down or at least steady. But what about the positives? We need
to get data on that and I think hearing inspirational stories for children whoíve overcome significant
disadvantage to contribute to our society are just wonderful stories. It doesnít matter
if theyíre just stories rather than total data.
Now, one of the things you asked me to address is about the framework for change. How do
we make data influence change? How do we make data influence policy? And I think we have
to do things differently as researchers and people who are monitoring the evidence. And
that is that we need to involve and engage two, or three important groups of people;
the policy makers, the service providers and the consumers, the parents. If we do that,
weíre going to have, not immediate implementation, of recommendations that come from the data,
but a much more seamless way of doing that.
So I think it really is up to us as groups of people who are responsible for the analysis
data to engage these people actually right at the beginning. Ask the questions of them.
What are your plans? What are your policies? What do you need from the data? What would
help you? I mean itís incredibly helpful for a policy maker to know that weíre in
a baby boom and that they should be providing more educational resources, larger numbers
of hospital beds, greater sources of mental health facilities both in community and in
hospital. Not less. So that kind of information is incredibly powerful if we can channel it
into where itís going to make a difference.
The big other suggestion I have is, that many of the pathways into improved health and wellbeing
are multi-factorial. Theyíre not just in health or just in education or just in those
silos. So, if you want to improve health and wellbeing youíve got to think about public
housing, youíve got to think about communities and green space. Youíve got to think about
poverty and inequality. So, youíve got to think about employment and making things easier
in the workplace for those who are caring at home.
I love this kind of joined up thinking and joined up data can lead to joined thinking
as weíve demonstrated here. Getting across the silo bureaucracies and making things like
the National Disability Insurance Scheme a patient focussed, a disability focussed kind
of funding is a very big step forward, because itís a multi-factorial thing.
Just because youíre disabled you donít not get all the other things that other kids get.
I think we need to think about ways of using our data in more joined up ways and if you
get the parents in early on weíve shown beautifully in Western Australia that parents can be the
best advocates for the use of data and itís translation. Itís about whether you really
want to use the data for proper prevention and real change or you just want more overwhelmed,
expensive and somewhat too late in effective band aids. So the data can be used to prevent
problems from occurring, as well as highlight the reasons why you need more services in
certain areas and Iíve already mentioned the baby boom and the need for mental health
and disability services.
I think the other recommendation, and this is my final set of recommendations, are that
we need champions for children. We need political champions for children, bureaucratic champions
for children, and donít forget the media champions for children. I had people from
the ABC, the sort of celebrities from the ABC chairing almost every session of the Festival
of Ideas in Melbourne, and it was fantastic. They were so good at grasping the data quickly
and translating it into sometimes humorous but very telling comments.
I think that a Childrenís Commissioner is absolutely crucial. They will make a huge
difference. Michelle Scott is just stepping down as our Childrenís Commissioner here
in Western Australia. Sheís been outstanding. Itís a measure of her success, but not a
very good comment on our bureaucrats and politicians that sheís been fairly un-liked and unappreciated
by them. Itís because sheís been doing her job, and she has been putting data and children
and evidence and a voice for children and young people right on the political agenda.
And it has upset apple carts and so it b***** should!
So, my last point is about using children themselves as champions for the kind of improvement
of outcomes. They are phenomenal voices. Look at this young woman whoís just opened United
Nations about educating Muslim women. I mean what a powerful voice she is, and there are
children who are very capable of speaking and of giving their stories. And it does two
things. Itís engaging and it makes people think, but also it changes the view of young
people of all being pretty hopeless and abusing substances and getting into crime. No, no.
The vast majority of kids are terrific and we need to put them up on a pedestal.
Thank you very much for giving me the opportunity to comment on this fantastic report. I hope
that your launch goes very well and I look forward to visiting Adelaide soon and meeting
up with all of you, and particularly old friends there. But warmest congratulations and thank
you.