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Hi guys,
I should actually apologise by now: ANOTHER Hamza video. Oh dear. But this one is funny!
Well, sometimes, anyway.
It's about an exchange on Hamza's Facebook page, where he praises a guy who made a really
bad knee-jerk reaction video to CaptainDisguise's refutation paper.
I pick up the thread where Hamza is asked why he keeps running away from debates he
has already agreed to. He generally seems to run away from debates with anyone knowledgeable
in Islam and Hamza's underhand tactics at delivering lies.
A guy calling himself al Maarri demands an explanation - oh, does everyone know who al
Maari was? The famous Arab poet, famous for his unusual style and contents, born in the
10th century in today's Syria, who said:
"The world holds two classes of men -- intelligent men without religion, and religious men without
intelligence." -- Abu 'L'Ala Ahmad ibn 'Abdallah al- Ma'arri
That al Maarri.
Anyway, this person demands an explanation why Hamza keeps on dodging a debate with a
knowledgeable person and gets nonsense back. Like how does one point out a non-existent
fallacy? Then Hamza condescendingly lectures al Maarri that "Context is everything".
Is that why Hamza's posting of "grant the oppressed freedom, patience and tranquillity"
would mean in the context of his writing about 5 suspected terrorists having been thrown
out of the UK that he wishes these 5 suspected terrorists peace and tranquillity?
Well, if context is everything, I would say: yes.
And hundreds of his fan-boys "like" this. Well, until a Muslim dares to tell the truth
that is. Someone talks about the reasons why one of the suspects, Abu Hamza, was declared
undesirable: his hatred for everything non-Muslim and his incitement to physically attack them
and steal from them.
Oh and by the way: a Muslim who followed this advice and knifed down a police officer during
a demonstration is now in a court in Germany. His only comment: violence is admissible in
Islam against the kuffar and for Allah.
Anyway, back on track our al Maarri tells Hamza what a whining *** and cry-baby
he is and a coward on top of that.
And now, something funny happens: enter a character called Poshy Wifey. Wow! What a
name to call yourself! Typical modest and humble Muslim.
This character jumps in and first of all, just to set the tone, insults CaptainDisguise
by saying that "his vids etc" were hilarious and then she claims he makes error upon error
and, to round it off, an "ignorant error". Without any proof or evidence, of course.
Then another quick insult and finally she adds a name, apparently trying to ping someone
to come and help out. This happens at the end of all the postings now.
1½ hours later he or she or it has had some time to ferment what stupid claims were made,
so now she comes back. I'll just call her a she because of the name and definitely not
because someone that clueless, *** as well as discombobulated can only be a female.
So she comes back a couple of minutes later and now writes the most befuddled hodgepodge
I have seen in a while: 1. Hamza has no time. Does she have access
to his calendar? He's a professional Muslim and this is all he does and he gets paid for
his incompetence on top of it. 2. Hamza can't speak for himself so she has
to tell everyone that CaptainDisguise is a crackpot with a blog.
3. She sees fit to inform everyone that CaptainDisguise is not proficient in Koranic or ancient Arabic.
Neither is Hamza. Neither are 99.998% of all Muslims. CaptainDisguise is proficient in
modern Arabic. Hamza is not. So what's the point?
4. Now comes the logics part: a. Captain lacks ancient Arabic
b. Not reduces perfect Islam c. Reduces his shortcomings
5. The Koran is not confusing. Scholars have been debating the meanings of sentences for
1400 years, but this character can explain everything. Oh boy!
6. It's the greatest book. By what standard? On what scale? By whose vote? On what list?
7. Well, now there's a need to backpedal, as it's not THAT easy, after all. Amazing
what using a second brain-cell can do. 8. It can't be too many though, because a
statement such as "education is a must so intellect is important" destroys any credit
there might have been for the existence of grey matter. How can education garner intellect,
even if it's guaranteed by the Islamic belief? 9. Now for the highlight of the "Common sense
and logic" of this person: mockery equates to credibility. What on Earth happens inside
the brains of these people? We share our genome for flippin' sake. And then, as grand finale
we get number 10. The words, vague and ambiguous words,
sprinkled throughout the Koran regarding the creation of human lifeforms is called "specific"
by this marvellous specimen of the human race, whatever "specific" may mean and it is titled
as embryology.
Why am I not surprised when this female admits she is in awe when listening to Bucaille,
the biggest simpleton of the Islamic creationists? No hang on, that title is held by Yahya - or
was it Naik?
After al Maarri has called her out she feels she can do even more damage to the reputation
of the group called ignorant Muslims:
Doesn't she know that a discussion involves more than a single person and a rant does
not? Doesn't she know that education, no matter
what kind, type or level does not automatically refute anything?
Doesn't she know that claiming to have some sort of tertiary education somehow needs to
manifest itself somewhere in the text? An opinion is an interpretation or emotional
evaluation of what is perceived as fact. So all someone else can do is show that a perceived
fact is actually faulty, which should cause a normal person to change their opinion of
something. But the opinion itself can't actually be refuted.
Now the University education - note the capital U = very important - comes through, but not
to much or is that too much? Not too mention spelling in school.
We are told she ignores people she knew prior due to time constraints. And amusing. And
refutable. She owes herself so much more.
But now I am puzzled! If she finds this creepy, why is she there? Why does she see the need
to speak for Hamza when she was not invited to the conversation between him and al Maarri.
Wow, she now tells us she has a life and thus does not make points on blogs.
And career. And family. And she makes points on blogs all the time.
Her attention span seems to have been used up as now we read about her brother, or maybe
just another guy called brother or someone she would like as brother, some guy who knows
so much.
Except he's not here. This "Big Brother" would show our al Maarri, oh yes.
Because this "Big Brother" is awarded. Yes! Awarded he is.
In this field. Which field? Bullshitting? Exaggerating? Bragging? Embryology? Koran?
Islam? Who knows!
She realises she is out of her depth and resorts to the standard line of defeat, the big white
flag saying: die and you will suffer. In hell.
Tada, we have the only true statement here:
"Truth doesn't change because you don't like the answer or it doesn't suit what you want
to be true or your lifestyle."
Pity she's too deluded to realise the contents of this nugget.
Now it gets outright embarrassing and I feel like a peeping Tom: she says it's late, her
hubby is waiting in bed I suppose and she hugs Hamza. Now, unless Hamza is the hubby
I feel just a little bit uncomfortable at the moment.
But before she goes and joins hubby, she needs to draw Hamza's attention to an important
Zeitgeist documentary. A beyond Zeitgeist documentary? Anyway, I suppose she did not
see my video on how fake and pseudo-scientific papers are fraudulently submitted by dishonest
Muslims. Pity.
And now we witness a person running on thin ice with metal capped shoes. Poshy Wifey gets
philosophical! Lo and behold and hallelujah.
She overthrows epistemology in a single bold move and declares Islam the winner - because
everything is based on the shahada, a few words mumbled by converts and Muslims alike.
In Arabic by non-Arabic-speaking people. Hovind and Ten Bruggencate would love her.
A few minutes later she shows us her library, a propaganda book, financed by some Muslim
Heritage Awareness Group. They hired Ben Kingsley, paid him a lot of money and told him to pretend
to be amazed at all the so-called inventions made by so-called Muslims. So-called because
neither is true of course, but anyone interested can find that out for themselves.
She says good night, but then she must be sleep-walking or hubby chased her out as 1½
hours later she's back again, with more monstrosities.
This time it's to tell us that the guy she was calling for help is so awarded that he
is unable to write something on Facebook. Or maybe I am doing him injustice as he's
blocked and banned by Hamza, like me.
It must be a physical brother, because what he writes would make Poshy Wifey proud: send
me the paper, not the refutation. The paper IS a refutation, you oaf. And it's now being
cited all over the net and incredibly easy to find, like a few centimetres above all
these comments.
Next, he says that nutfah is equal to ***. Yeah right. Where does he pull that one from?
Does he know he's now in direct confrontation with Hamza? Oh wait, he says it could also
mean: drop. Also wrong and totally irrelevant. Who says? Where? Why? How? Get with it man,
this is not Kindergarten where you pull a napkin from a kid's ear and kids go wooooo.
Now Poshy Wifey II or Brother Rafiq or Rafiq Islam or whatever actually for once asks a
valid question: why are people arguing? Well, Hamza made a claim, CaptainDisguise showed
this claim is unwarranted, false, fabricated, fraudulent and completely wrong. And Hamza
is having a hissy fit and acting like a drama-queen.
Next Rafiq whatever says science has nothing to do with the Koran and he never uses science
and he has developed science himself to remove the inherent Koranic inconsistencies. And
a refutation of redemption is not refuted. There you have it. Now we all know. Because
he limited the comments to some remarks he will explain later.
Man, unlike Poshy Wifey, this guy must be so totally awarded - in this field.
We are told we can't talk or discuss unless we are all pre-suppositionalists.
Unless we do anyway. Then he has declared an impasse. Before anyone has said a single
word he knows the outcome. Wow. He is truly totally awarded.
But alas, there are 2 options: 1. Hamza loses = an indictment against the
Quran 2. Hamza wins = Quran is incorrect?
I really wonder what "new science" means in his bubble.
His 2nd point is that science is evil. He is so awarded and is incapable of finding
a technology which is not harmful? Oh boy!
He seems to have a problem with his definition of a god too, as he claims that studying the
Koran will get a person closer to Allah. How exactly does one get closer to an omnipresent
entity? Which is not really part of our Universe? I suppose only a god could know.
And finally, this highly awarded ***-bag tells us we should read his books, looking
for what? Name and Wiley. Well, good luck.
It seems this is the end of this conversation, where all that happened is that Hamza dodged
a debate and ran away, a wife who thinks she's posh makes unfounded and unsubstantiated claims
and the guy she calls for help is clueless.
A normal day at the office when dealing with Muslim apologists.
Thanks for your time