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POGAČNIK: [violin music...]
Violence. [laughter] Everybody running around, because you are impressed with people if they run around.
Panic. Fear. [violin music]
So what do the executives do then, as a result of death?
[violin music]
So they say, "Listen to me: ah, ah, ah." And death. [laughter]
This is the corporate cycle. Can you see?
Pressure, panic, more pressure, and death, and then they make a merger. [laughter]
CUSTER: Do you have messages of sort of active solidarity -- proactive, in which people --
if there's some way of driving people to do things together?
AZCÁRRAGA: There's not really, I believe, a culture of philanthropy in Latin America,
and I believe that we need to work together to try to develop that culture.