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conservative attorney Austin Nimach so %uh says the Christian business owners
are the ones that are facing some
unfair discrimination and you know unfair treatment
if they refuse to serve gay people
now he says that this is against the Constitution in fact let me go ahead and
read you his exact quote
he says there are damages I wanna be very clear
there are damages yeah I know dude you're damn right I got
I think when you violate somebody's constitutional right
you take away from their free exercise religion
rights and their free speech rights which is what is happening to our
clients that is damaging
it may not be on the side that our opponents think the damages are on but I
think their damages and consequences associated with these complex their
damages
damages damages damages damnit there are damages here
so he is representing a couple in New Mexico they
own a photography business and may refuse to photograph a gay couples
marriage or our wedding day and so as a result he feels that his clients are
being treated unfairly because they refuse to do this they say look if this
is their religious freedom if they are against
same-sex marriage they shouldn't be forced to serve a same-sex couple
right so I'm slid on this me Paul
okay good for you so I love gay people like I want to support them I want them
I
why do bad by like than 100 am
yeah I know ready Brea did not know but it's true and like I don't want anyone
think
misunderstand what I'm trying to say right but I feel like
if you wanna be a hateful person who's gonna lose business because you can't
get over your hate
then fine go ahead and practice your religion and don't serve gay people
they're gonna find a business somewhere else
that's more progressive and that will meet there you know meet their needs
I'm so that's okay where i stand. yeah it's a it's a super tough issue right
because the civil rights era they do this on such a mass scale
the you can really exempt small businesses because if he did he would
have exempted almost all the business in the south and then they didn't want serb
like people
and yeah it's too bad for you don't want to serve you gotta serve
right cuz this federal law and its kinda and their constitutional right to be
served
its center now is look we were past that right
so now are we pass out for gay people well thats
not quite clear right and so they do need some degree protection and they
have their constitutional rights
the flip side is it feels weird to make somebody take pictures of a wedding
that they don't like and they don't want to have to take that business
maybe I don't like you maybe you coming to my place and I'm a photographer and
you smell and I don't wanna spend a whole day with you
your smelly wedding right so it feels weird to say here dude you
you must take their business you must go take their pictures
I know why I know legally and constitutionally why they force them to
do that right but they also have a right to exercise their religion and I know
that their religion has been used to justify slavery in
although you know terrible things in the good things in the world both sides rate
in this case is bubu serb just by discrimination against gays
it's not part of issue as a very tough issue and also
I mean when you really think about it I kinda like that there's a little
transparency here
I like that they're being open and honest about the fact that they don't
like
the gay community because honestly I don't want to support your business
if you don't like the gay community I don't pay you for anything
yeah and I don't you take in crappy picture so by wearing gloves I was gonna
be lovely
and so I my rule at this point and it's fair to disagree with it would be that
I would exempt businesses under fifty people whose
actual small businesses you get about 50 employees that you're big enough
business
the you gotta serve the whole public and if you don't like that that's a sad day
for you
people have their constitutional rights get we we can have mcdonnell saying
I'm not gonna serve gay people that senator right yeah but at the same time
if your local mom-and-pop shop like this and you want to be hateful on your own
you want to use religion
to justify it I you know like you said I and II
have added Hossen and everybody is better served
not dealing with each other there cuz I don't wanna met the gay wedding and they
don't want to be at the gay wedding
and yes i'd they do a religious freedoms and that's why it is
a tough castle bouncer by the way the reason the I keep saying damages
is because you want to get paid and all the way it paid is a big improvement
that their damages there's been a tremendous amount of gay acceptance
recently and I love that that's great news but at the same time
it would be naive to deny the fact that there's still a lot of discrimination
among the gay community or toward the gay community and I want to focus a
little bit on
anti-gay hate crimes because we experience a little bit of an increase
in 2013
now I'll let me give you some numbers for 2012 that was the last time that
there was a national study done on anti-gay hate crimes
and what they found was that will
beilin he crimes against LGBTQ people in the US
up there were about 2016 incidents in 2012
up but if you look at homicide they're about 25
in 2012 and these were specifically anti-gay
hate crimes right which is also really difficult to prove so I'm sure that
there were more
arm but they were either a on reported or they could determine whether or not
it was
for sure hate crime is so look it's a big country and I know
that their that you know it might not seem like 25 homicides a big number
within the context thresher million people
but that's where my people got killed because they were dead just because
they're get Ryan this is the United States while
the gay movement is actually working we're seeing more gates up
ride is over 2,000 into this people attacked because they were gay
so when you say like on a story we did yesterday on on Michael Sam
income being the first outwardly gay person likely to be an NFL
also bboy I don't care I you know YZ putting in my face but he's not putting
it in your face
reporters keep ask him over and over again are you here yet
so is going to answer the question right an to say it's no big deal was no big
deal to you but it is a big deal to 2,000 people got violently attacked as
they were Gates said
big deal to the people who lost family members twenty five people killed
because they were gay
just because you're not people yes gave doesn't mean that I other people aren't
n yeah it was no big deal that a gay person that I fell
there'd be a lot of gay people animal or outwardly gay people right NFL
but there aren't right to look at these people they don't want to take pictures
a gay people
right so look for my sis is this
is i think is a tough issue on the issue of small businesses what they should be
forced to do or or allowed not to do on the other hand
despair me all this kid crying about how christians the big dips
okay you not the victims over it down fortunately Chris Rippon amounts are the
ones
that oppressed a gaze in this country and many other countries
also muslim fundamentalists and other parliament was have a press gays
questions are the great majority in this country every single
president has been a Christian your impact how we're
so talk to me about how all those poor ground clearance
you are alone was that he gay people yes sometimes we're protecting
their rights as well if you don't like the you
we're taking away your freedom to hate them be intolerant towards them
on a mass scale well then that's a sad day for you is called the United States
Constitution
as opposed to protect every single citizen