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Naland: On one hand you say what great eyewitnesses these authors are. Okay?
>>Ankerberg: They are.
>>Naland: And so you get your eyewitness. And one says, "This person and this person
went" period. And the other says, "This person, this person and this person went" period.
The other one says, "Well, it was just Mary." It's like...
>>Montgomery: No, no. No. The one doesn't say "It's just...it's just." Now, that's the
important thing.
>>Naland: Okay. Okay.
>>Montgomery: If one of them said, "This person and only that person was present at a given
time," and the second one said that "Someone else and only that person was present at that
same time," then you'd have a logical contradiction. But you see, you don't have that.
>>Naland: But they don't say that. Okay, it's like saying...asking me to prove that a brontosaurus
did not go with the women.
>>Montgomery: No, no, no, it's not like that at all.
>>Naland: Okay...yes it is! Because the authors do not say that a brontosaurus was not there,
so therefore, maybe there was a brontosaurus...
>>Montgomery: We're not talking about...we're not talking about beasts or people who are
not mentioned by any of the writers. We're talking about the ones that were mentioned.
>>Ankerberg: What I think that you are establishing is a criteria for historical writings and
that rule, the first rule would be that anybody that writes about an event, if you have five
different witnessČes, they'd better all say the same thing, no matter what, otherwise
it's not accuČrate.
>>Montgomery: Identical...identical things.
>>Naland: No. No...
>>Ankerberg: Okay, if they didn't say identical things...
>>Naland: ...But when the women got there...
>>Ankerberg: Okay, hold on. If you say "No," if you say, "No,"...
>>Naland: Okay.
>>Ankerberg: ...then, on what basis would you allow Mark to differ with Luke when Mark
says, "I want to concentrate on this" and he names somebody that Luke says but Luke
wants to also include two others and so he [Luke] does truthfully and he [Mark] does
truthfulČly.
>>Naland: Okay. May I talk?
>>Montgomery: Surely!
>>Naland: Okay. So the women get to the tomb -- however many there were. Who knows. The
women get to the tomb, and they see a man, men, an angel or angels. Okay? Whatever. Now,
were those angels or men inside the tomb or outside? Because at an instant in histoČry,
they were either here or there.