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>> WELL, LOOK, I THINK IT'S
EMBARRASSING FOR A HEAD OF STATE
TO GO ON LIKE THAT FOR 45
MINUTES AND SAY ALMOST NOTHING.
UNFORTUNATELY, ONE HAS TO
DECONSTRUCT A LITTLE OF WHAT IS
BEING SAID IN THE POINTS THAT
YOU HAVE RAISED.
FIRST OF ALL, LET'S LOOK FOR
SOME POSITIVE IN WHAT HAS COME
OUT OF HERE.
WELL, IT'S CLEAR THAT THE
PRESIDENT WOULD NOT BE SPEAKING
TODAY, WERE IT NOT FOR THE
ACTIONS OF EDWARD SNOWDEN AND
WHISTLE BLOWERS BEFORE HIM LIKE
FRANK DRAKE AND BINI.
ALTHOUGH THOSE NATIONAL WHISTLE
BLOWERS HAVE FORCED THIS DEBATE,
THIS PRESIDENT HAS BEEN DRAGGED,
KICKING AND SCREAMING TO TODAY'S
ADDRESS.
HE IS BEING VERY RELUCTANT TO
MAKE ANY CONCRETE REFORMS.
AND UNFORTUNATELY TODAY WE ALSO
SEE VERY FEW CONCRETE REFORMS.
WHAT WE SEE IS KICKING OFF THE
BALL INTO THE CONGRESSIONAL
GRASPS, INTO PANELS OF LAWYERS
THAT HE WILL REPORT OH
>> WELL, WE HEARD A LOT OF LIES
HERE IN THIS SPEECH BY OBAMA.
HE SAID, FOR EXAMPLE --
>> HOW SO?
>> THE NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY
HAS NEVER ABUSED WHAT IT HAS
DONE.
WHEN THE FISA COURT HAS FOUND --
EVEN THE FISA COURT HAS FOUND
AGAIN AND AGAIN THAT IT HAS DONE
JUST THAT.
SO IF THE NATIONAL SECURITY
AGENCY IS INTERPRETING WHAT
NATIONAL SECURITY MEANS, THE
SECRET COURT, FISA, IS
INTERPRETING WHAT NATIONAL
SECURITY MEANS, OF COURSE,
AMBIGUOUS TE
ANGELA MERKEL OR DAVID CAMERON.
OR THE AUSTRALIAN PRIME
MINISTER.
SURE.
BUT LET ME JUST SPY ON EVERYONE
ELSE THEY TALK TO.
IT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING TO NOT
SPY ON WORLD LEADERS.
MAYBE YOU CAN SAVE A BIT OF PR
FLACK IF ANOTHER EDWARD SNOWDEN
COMES ALONG.
I DON'T THINK ACTUALLY THE
SPYINGSNOWDEN?
>> WELL, LOOK, OBVIOUSLY THE
INTERNAL MECHANISMS FAILED.
THIS PRESIDENT FAILED.
THIS ADMINISTRATION FAILED AND
OUR SECURITY AGENCY FAILED TO
HOLD ITSELF TO ACCOUNT
INTERNALLY.
WHEN THERE IS A FAILURE OF
INTERNAL OVERSIGHT, OTHER PEOPLE
HAVE TO STEP INTO THE ROLE.
AND THAT'S WHAT EDWARD SNOWDEN
HAS DONE.D STATES?
>> THE FORMALLY -- YEAH,
FORMALLY THE INVESTIGATION INTO
WIKILEAKS AND ME CONTINUES IN
THE UNITED STATES.
IT'S RUN BY THE VIRGINIA
DISTRICT -- VIRGINIA FEDERAL
ATTORNEY.
HE HAS CONFIRMED THAT IT
FORMALLY CONTINUES.
THERE'S -- SEEMS TO BE SOME
DEBATE, PERHAPS, WITHIN THE DOJ
ABOUT THE CORRECTNESS OF THAT
INVESTIGATION.