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I bow to all the seekers of truth.
I do not know how to thank the mayor of Oakland and mayor of Berkeley for being so kind to
give this certificate to Me. I must say this is a wonderful country where people recognize
something that is doing good work. Really remarkable it is. I had been here before,
to Berkeley, because everybody tells Me that there are lots of seekers of truth in Berkeley.
This is the thing that attracted Me very much. But first of all we should know what are we
seeking all these days. Once you start seeking it goes on like a rat-race of seeking. Or
have you been able to find something? So what do you have to find in your seeking?
As you know, in all the scriptures it is been told that you have to know yourself.
You don't know yourself, you don't know what problems you have within. People get into
diseases without knowing until it develops into a very serious trouble. Also they
go on hurting others, being jealous with others, being in tension and stress. All kind of
problems come to them, and they don't know why it happens, why, what is the reason?
So today I'm going to tell you how you have to know yourself. First of all you must decide
that you have been seeking, seeking, seeking and this is the place known for its seeking.
It's high time you better come to the end of it and seek what you have been seeking
and you get it, that's the promise. First and foremost thing, when we are seeking we
should know what are we within ourselves. What do we know about ourselves is only through
doctors, or through psychologists or some people, which is very superficial knowledge
about ourselves. In our depth, in our within, what do we have which doctors don't know,
is the para-sympathetic nervous system. They don't know. Sympathetic system is the
system by which when we work very hard, we run and do all kinds of things, the sympathetic
goes into action, heart will start beating fast. But what brings it to normal is the
para-sympathetic and this is what we have to know within ourselves, that it exists and
it operates automatically How it exists and how works out that's why we have to know.
Moreover what are we? When you see the whole world, it is so full violence, full
of all kinds of nonsense that's going on, and you can't imagine why people do it.
What is the need to do all these horrible things in the name of God, in the name of
religion, in the name of some political party, or some sort of a name they must have to fight
with each other, torture others, kill each other. All this works out through human
beings, through people who are supposed to be at the top of evolution. Human awareness
is at the highest point. So now what's happening to our awareness? Why do we get into jealousies,
into angers, into all kinds of funny type of behavior, which animals also don't do?
Because we have freedom, we can do what we like, we can do what we like with ourselves
and with others. But still we must know our vehicle better, we should know what is
within us.
Now for that, there is placed within us a beautiful thing called Kundalini which lies
in the triangular bone, which is called as “sacrum”. That means Greeks knew about
it, that's why they called it a sacred bone. In the triangular bone it lies at the base
of your spine and this is the one which is going to give you a real ascent. This is
the one which is going to connect you to the All Pervading Power of Divine Love. They
have all talked about God, Power of God, Divine love, all kinds of things, but we don’t
know where it is, where does it exist, how it works. If really it is there or not,
also we are not very sure. So this power lies within your triangular bone, can you
show them? All of you have this power within you. It is not anyone who belongs
to any nationality, or to any culture but everyone has this power within himself.
But you'll be surprised, how people have made such a horrible picture of Kundalini and they
say that when the Kundalini rises you may go mad, you may shout, you must do all kinds
of things. Because they have no authority to do it, because they don't know how to do
it - that's why they make up a story like that and tell you, because they don't want
you to ascend, I think. Or they don't know, they are incapable of awakening the
Kundalini. But I must tell you that She is your Mother, She is your individual Mother,
She knows everything about you. It is all recorded, whatever was your past, whatever
mistakes you committed, whatever aspirations you have, everything She knows about it, it's
all recorded there in the 3-1/2 coils. But She is your Mother, your own Mother and when
you were born, your Mother took all the trouble upon Herself. She didn’t give you trouble.
In the same way when this Kundalini rises, She doesn't give you any trouble. Now people
are afraid even to talk about Kundalini because those who talked about Kundalini were I don't
know what sort of people they were, and it was such a misleading thing that they thought,
it’s better not to talk about it. But talk is talk, talk is not everything.
What has to happen is the awakening of this Kundalini. It’s an actualization, it is
not just talking, giving lectures, you do this, you stand like this, put your hand this
way, your legs that way, it's not that. It is very simple, that this Kundalini, which
is responsible for your last ascent, your, I should say, the last step in your evolution,
this Kundalini is your own Mother and She cannot harm you. She can never do that.
This is the fact I would like to tell you first of all. Because I know in America
all kinds of people have come from India, those people also they were released from
jail, wore some sort of a dress and came here. They are all minting money, that's what they
are doing, they are good at it. So if you have any understanding about Divinity you
must understand that you cannot sell it and you cannot purchase it. If you can purchase
some person then such a person cannot be your master, he can be your servant but not your
master. So once you understand this point, it is very important for you people to know
that it is not saleable because you know this is a consumer society, and everything has
to be sold. But not spirituality, you cannot sell spirituality. And those who sell spirituality
are spurious people, they are not real, they are absolutely bogus people as they call them,
and you don't waste your energy and money on them.
So now, we have before you this triangular bone and this Kundalini and She rises through
six centers. The seventh center is below the Kundalini, it is below the Kundalini and
it protects the chastity of the Mother. Now those people who talk about sex as one
of the instruments for ascent are absolutely befooling you. Nobody has said that in any
scripture, but suddenly they started a kind of a myth or fashion I should say or fad,
and people get drawn into it. So I have come to warn you about it, that it has nothing
to do with sex, but as Christ has said you have to be like children when you enter into
the Kingdom of God. So your innocence gets awakened. Many people feel they have lost
their innocence, you can never lose it. It comes back to you. It is dormant, it
might be bruised, it might be a little bit hurt, but it's all there intact, and you will
be amazed to see what you are.
Because you don't know what you are. So I would say you are not this body, this mind,
but you are the Spirit and that's what you have to become. Once you become the Spirit,
you will know what you are, you'll know everything about yourself. But for that to happen you
don't have to do any acrobatic thing, it's just very simple. Wherever you are sitting
it will work out. But first tell your mind to stop little bit thinking, because this
mind has been reacting all the time, reacting to this, reacting to that, reacting with the
result that Kundalini doesn't rise, but when She rises, She's wonderful. The thoughts
rise like that and fall down, again thoughts come up and fall down. They come from the
future or from the past. Present you cannot be, you cannot be in the present. But when
Kundalini rises, She elongates these thoughts and there is a space created. It’s called
as pause, you can call it. In Sanskrit, it is called as vilamba. So your mind stands
at that place where you have thoughtless awareness. Is told by, also Jung has talked about it,
that you get into thoughtless awareness. Pantanjali has talked about it. But talking about it
is not sufficient as I told you, it has to happen.
So first thing that happens to you, you become thoughtlessly aware. There is no thought,
no reaction. For example, I see this beautiful carpet here, and if I react I would say oh,
what a beautiful carpet. If it is Mine, I would be worried I should insure it. If
it is not mine, I would say that how much they must have paid for it and, to whom does
it belong? And all kinds of things. But supposing I'm in thoughtless awareness, then
I just see it. While seeing it also I'm just witnessing, and what I'm getting is the complete
joy of the creator who has done this job, complete get filled with that joy. There
is no reaction, it is just thoughtless awareness in which Divine works. You don't have to
then think about it, it all works out. Now this Kundalini rising through six centers
- now you don't know you have any centers within yourself, and you don't know how they
are placed. After this rising, this Kundalini rises, passes through the fontanel bone area
and becomes one with the All Pervading Power of Divine Love, which is very subtle and you
also start becoming your subtler personality. When the Kundalini rises through these six
centers which are responsible for your physical, mental and emotional being, She nourishes
them. She nourishes them with light, and then She integrates them. And when She reaches
this spot, She opens up this fontanel bone area and becomes one with this All Pervading
Power. This is the actualization of baptism, this is the baptism. It is not just some priest
comes, puts his hand on your head, it's not the way. It has to be the actualization
of this happening, which is for your ascent. This is the last break-through of your evolution.
Whatever I'm saying we can prove it also, it's not just talking. But this Kundalini,
Kundalini's awakening which takes places, it actually makes your hands speak. You
start feeling the cool breeze coming out of your fingers and through your hands and here
also. You feel the cool breeze, actually and then if you know what do these mean 5,
6, and 7 center, in the same way, 5, 6 and 7 center, these seven centers are on the sympathetic
nervous system. But when the sympathetic centers, two of them they mix, the central
system is formed of para-sympathetic. So when you get enlightenment your Spirit gets
awakened in your heart, and in the Spirit is the reflection of the complete Divine force.
Then you become a, really, a spiritual personality. It is a reality I'm talking about, and in
the light of the Spirit your attention becomes purified. Not only that, but you know what
is good for you and what is destructive for you. You give up all nonsense in no time.
Of course Sahaja Yoga has cured many people with all kinds of addictions, all kinds of
problems, it's a fact. But that is this Kundalini has done it, which is your own,
which has enlightened your own chakras, your own centers and has brought forth this result.
The second thing that happens to you apart from your attention being enlightened, that
you become a collective personality. People have talked about it, said about it but this
is in the books. Like a drop falls into the ocean, becomes the ocean. It doesn't
mean that you are lost, you are nowhere. But your ego is lost, your so called pretensions
are lost and what you become is part and parcel of the whole. Whole global race belongs
to you, then how will you fight each other? If you are part and parcel of the whole, nothing
but love, nothing but compassion. We have now people in 86 countries, and when I see
them, I see the dream fulfilled because I've never seen them fighting or saying anything
harsh to each other. They come from all kinds of religions, they come from all kinds
of countries, every type of knowledge they have. Because you get the absolute knowledge,
absolute knowledge. Now we don't know what absolute knowledge is. For example there
is a person comes say from India or from any other country, and says “I'm a real
great saint, I'll give you a great experience”. How will you know that person is not telling
you lies, and that he is not coming from the prison? How will you find out? You just
put your hands when you are realized, when you are enlightened, towards that person.
Immediately what you will get? Will be a hot breeze, that's the minimum. You might
get tingling very bad, perhaps maybe you might even get a blister, one or two.
So you will be amazed how you judge people on your finger-tips - absolute knowledge about
people, absolute knowledge about Spirit, absolute knowledge about the whole global problem you
get. You become collectively conscious, you can connect yourself to the whole world
in a way that is spiritual. Whatever you want, whatever you think becomes very pure, compassionate
and beautiful. That is what you are, that whatever you are that you become. There's
nothing to be said. Like this now, this instrument is before Me, I'm speaking to you,
but supposing it is not connected how can it, what is the use of this instrument? In
the same way you do not have that spirituality within you. Sometimes people must think
that we are very spiritual. Don't believe in that. You must have absolute knowledge
about yourself and about everything else.
Also we can say lots of things have happened in Sahaja Yoga. Like I know of somebody
who was just a Chartered Accountant, knew only about finances. He's become a great
poet. All kind of balances work out, and it is so surprising the amount of aptitudes
that you develop. You are amazed, you never knew you had these aptitudes within you. I
have an Academy of Music in India, and the people even from America and other countries
came and three months, only in three months they started singing a very difficult raga
called as [unclear word, Malcos]. I was amazed. For which people have to work at
least 5 to 7 years, and here they are. So your capacity to absorb knowledge, to render
it, is so much increased because you don't know your potential. You don't know what
you are, that's what the point is. That’s why they said that know yourself, know thyself
because after knowing yourself, you'll have absolute knowledge, absolute reality and you
won't live in the mental world “oh this is this, this is that”. I know many
books have written like that, about a person who was seeking and they ended up into nothing.
Your seeking should not end up like that. You should get what you are seeking.
You have been seeking, and seeking and seeking and it is My greatest desire that you the
well known seekers all over the world, because they say Berkeley University has the maximum
number of seekers. So I mean I don't know, you should come to the end of it. There
are many I know who came to Berkeley because they thought they were a group of people who
are seeking. They went to meetings after meetings. When they got their realization
they wrote to them that we have found, we have found the reality. So they wrote
back all their friends and groups “oh I see, that we see that you have found it your
own way, we'll find our it own way”. So he was so, this gentleman who came, he was
so disappointed, that still they are seeking. Seeking has become like a fashion. It cannot.
It must come to an end. Your journey must come to an end, otherwise it will go on, one
after another. So many will come and tell you “this is it, this is it, this is it”,
but the experience of the spirit, experience of realization is the thing you should ask
for. If somebody doesn't give you the experience, don't be satisfied with what they say. Even
with Me.
I'm sure tonight all of you all of you will have that experience, if you are truly seeking,
and there are a few things which I would like to tell you. Would you like to ask Me some
questions? One by one. Yes Madam?
[Audience]: How does it play into politics? Shri Mataji: Oh very great. Politics is,
see why the trouble with politics is, because it is not pure politics. If the politicians
become, think of that, if they all become realized souls, we'll have benevolent people.
They will be very different. We have some politicians in India who got their realization,
also we have in Benin and Ivory Coast, we have people who are realized souls and also
politicians. Without realization if you are a politician, God save the people. But
you will understand the politics of the collective. You will see what's wrong where, what you
have to correct, what you have to do, how you have to behave. You won't run after
[unclear – ***?], no, your life itself will work it out. I'll tell you, My father
himself, he was a realized soul and he was a member of the Central Assembly Constituent
Assembly and Parliament. But he was a realized soul. So he came out of jail and there was
the [unclear name of person] who was there one of the great politicians, and a great
man, who was with [unclear name of person]. He wrote a letter to my father that I want
you to stand for election, so My father told him I am just not come from jail and I'm not
very well but if you want, I don't mind contesting the election. So at that time he sent 3,000
rupees to My father, saying that this you can use for your propagation and all. So
My father sent it back saying, Sir if I'm to spend money for my election I better not
contest it. And without spending a single pi he contested the election and the person
who was opposing him lost, forfeited his deposit. But his daughter, she was My friend, she helped
My father. She told her father you are nowhere compared to Her father and I'm not going to
support you in any way. That's how it comes. See everything works out so well, but we must
have many people in this to understand. If there is only one or two people, they will
torture them, they'll trouble them, do all kinds of, all saints have suffered. But
now we have to be, all of us we can be saints, and we have to be saints and we'll have saints
who will be politicians. The whole world will change. Any other question?
[Audience]: My dear Shri Mataji, I was very recently became aware of You and actually
through Your web site, and when I first saw Your face before reading anything about You
I said “I'm seeing the Divine Mother”, and I was so amazed by Your aura, by Your
energy that it inspired me to write something for You and if it will please You I would
be very honored to sing it to You.
Moderator confirms: Recently she became aware of You and saw You on the Internet web site
and when she saw Your face…..
Audience: I have a special presentation I want to …..
Moderator: …..she has a poetry she has written for You.
Shri Mataji: You are a very sensitive person, I must say.
Audience: Actually I would like to sing it to you.
Shri Mataji: Thank you, thank you very much. May God Bless you. Beautiful. Beautiful. It
is very touching. So lastly, ha, yes Sir?
Audience: unclear question about Anahata
Shri Mataji: that is what I am going to tell you, alright? I'm happy you people have
been reading quite a lot. We have three nadis here, you can see it clearly. One
is Ida, another Pingala & Sushumna is the center. Ida and Pingala are responsible for
the sympathetic nervous system, and the centre one, Sushumna is for your ascent, for the
para-sympathetic nervous system. Now the center one is the one is the Anahata nadi.
This goes up to the fontanel bone area, and when the Kundalini reaches there, She makes
the same sound as in the heart we have, we call it Anahata. Anahata means without
percussion. That is Kabira has said, that at the Anahata sound, when it reaches the
Sahasrara, in this part this limbic area, then you know that you are about to enter
into the Kingdom of God. You see Indian poets, some of them were such great saints,
but they wrote mostly in this poetry and it was not so much understood by people.
Like Kabira wrote, he has used Anahata very much word that [Sanskrit word, unclear] he
means the, it can mean in the normal way is my lover went away and I did not fight with
him. Now how can Kabira have these ideas? But some people did feel that it is that.
But I told him, told them that see Sayiam means the life, he's talking about his death,
that my life went away, I never fought with it. And now you follow it that way, and
they were amazed, when I told them this meaning. They said we never knew this was the meaning,
we studied Hindi language, we studied him. I said, you see the trouble is, these poets
were sitting there and writing something of that level, how can it enter the minds of
human beings? That was the fact and in the same way anything you see you read now, it
will be very, very clear for you to understand, if it is the right reading of course. And
then you will know what everything means. All these words have great meaning and they
are indicating. Despite that, we can see that people have always misunderstood. They
have misunderstood everything, in every scripture, every saint. Everything they have misunderstood,
maybe because I shouldn't say they didn't have brains, that they were brainless. But
that they had an angle to their brains and they saw everything with that angle and that's
why it was not a proper understanding. Anything else?
[Moderator]: confirms audience statement: I just wanted to thank you for the gift you
have given to the world and he came to Your program in Vancouver 10 years ago and has
not been in touch since then.
Shri Mataji: Oh I'm again going to Vancouver. See I've been traveling too much, I'm now
77 will be 78 years of age, and somehow my family people think that I shouldn't travel
so much, but this time I sneaked through. You should come, you should come, to our programs
in New York. We have a very nice program now, very nice program. What’s the date?
16th of June. We are having a very, very nice program. You are all welcome there
in New York. We have a big land there, and you'll enjoy it very much. It is for your
enjoyment, that you get joy. Joy is not double like happiness/unhappiness. It's
pure, it's singular and you get the joy from the spirit, and you get the peace, complete
peace. Just image human beings getting transformed like that, what will happen to this world?
Maybe from Berkeley we might get a great force of this world to be changing it, because so
many students come here from all over the world and if it works out, you can change
the whole world. That is the importance of Berkeley message.
Alright, we'll have the session for realization. But I would definitely request people who
don't want to have their realization to leave the hall, because they create a little problem.
So it would be very kind of you to leave the hall if you don't want to have realization.
Of course nothing goes wrong with you, nothing will happen to you I assure you, you won't
be jumping, nothing of the kind. It is a very soothing effect. First of all, you'll
get your realization and then I hope they have here a follow-up for which you have to
go, not to pay anything, again I tell you. And you can learn everything there about yourself,
about others, for which you don't have to spend more than a month. Within 1 month
you will be the masters, I know you will be. But whatever seeking you have had so far,
forget about it, forget completely about it and just try to know your own value. Know
that you are very precious, very precious persons, and these precious people should
not get disturbed or destroyed by wrong type of people.
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