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John Whitehead is with us now he is the age libertarian
attorney founder above the Rutherford Institute
an author love the new book a government above wolves the emerging
American please state the website rutherford
dot or John welcome back the program thank you
I'll a you you are libertarian i'ma
a progressive or liberal we disagree on a lot of things
but I think we not allow libertarian by the way are you not
okay I i don't have it was leveled in 30 years lol
I'll I do civil liberties work and much was against politicians
so okay so you're alone six years civil liberties attorney not a libertarian
attorney
no i lying there there lot you know I work well
people left to right circular experts are buys endorsed by both by the way
yeah I was about to yet so
you know i i think it's it's it's served pretty major I mean I I don't know where
we have a libertarian fraud alert the press release I thought that's what it
said but in any case
and and but the the book
a governor walls emerging American police say why do you say that
we have a a growing police state in America right now
well he obviously with the it's a
revelations violence Norton who basically told us there
a through the streets of a silly that this is all covered in my book yellow
walls
the there's a list they'll push everything we do the FBI three months
ago admitted in a journal CNN the Galleria Falk also
actually lol say a jittery a over a four-year veteran visibly
he read the book by the way life suspicion and
people easily other country wat solid I said they all say they'll only at least
a trillion business information
every muscle and as we know this new
excuse for your average guy with her second Albert Lea think
like hell about cheerful 80,000 SWAT team raid
30 3,000 per cent say being so
a la the poor people minorities the cops are going to people's doors for
possession of pot
steamy stuff like that people are getting killed I detail all the stories
in my book Tyler Jones and the Detroit seven-year also a realist
all accounts the press is like the pass to the slot the way
she got shot and killed the they were the wrong address
so we're seeing allow that so in this crazy stuff going on in
are you have the arm all their security buying this time last year they
contacted by over a billion hollow-point Rowles
part officially has hella am i kno just
I up in this area four years in like he tell people I'm a bit
weeks now and scared about what's going on in the world scare thats
it doesn't look good and most americans are here but this girl
you're doing a show on it but mainstream media that they don't talk a lot about
it
now the the I i've seen a billion rounds before and i've seen a pushback from
government spokespeople saying well yeah I mean you know we've we do
charter practice and players on a lot of different police and other police
agencies
I that the level but lol yet very more than people wherever you know he'll need
you don't use all pol
Point books both to do our part practice I'm a former infantry officer I know
yeah cell there something going on today at work
prevent through their last 22 will take another culture Facebook post
arrested for I'll witnessing this is a *** what do you think is is this day
and age I i
John what i'm saying is scary John when did this start
and i cos it you know i i would say if you were to ask
you know some of the old sixties radicals they were said we're a police
state 1968
um what they tell if you want to go back to trail
the started with McCarthy era a factor big title the book comes from LR merle
the great
CVS Sun News reporter who fought the car he said
a nation sheep will beget a government evolving is absolutely correct
you know here contains a sleepy on this end well I'm telling people to do is get
really active locally I think you can have an impact there you can't really
I mean you have a in the eighties the government the pentagon start actually
handing out military equipment to
17,000 police agencies across the united states and the hell
police agencies that have a population thirty-five people their town they have
swat teams now I'm
her reply so I saw where the government where the capital city of New Hampshire
Concord New Hampshire was petitioning to get a tank
basically you're an armored vehicle of some kind and
they were asserting that they needed this because they had terrorists and
*** a nice a living and shy I
live just you know %ah twenty thirty miles from Concord
and and I've spent a lot time a guy it's a little down time it's a state capital
but it's a small town as well as smart as new hampshire
and and their say and yeah we got terrorist groups here we've got to
the Occupy group which by the way is only met once the last year
and what we've got I i think they had some washoe the Tea Party or something
and they ate on this secret document which is now been publicly disclosed
the police chief said that these were the reasons why they needed this multi
hundred thousand dollar
peace accord and they got it surely get to get free
and you know aren't still receive a SWAT team rates now if the
there's actually several ran so the the swat teams get paid to do
bus on people were smoking pot I mean if you want to people's doors these cases
are all documented in my book i mean they're outrageous lol
is this being driven by the profit motive john has this been driven by the
arms manufacturers
all sure I would say you know people but whoever is running the government
I don't think it's a single personal I think the corporate entities a basic
technology lol
and wireless equipment as long the police forces me you're talking about
armored vehicles assault rifles training with the
blackhawk helicopters with the so-called viper forces
PSA which they go around the country doing training exercises in there
black outfits well yes profit not sure I think so
what's happened to the governor is become a money-making
entity and you can make money on war said Elliott session again spot my
country is ludicrous
yeah I agree with it would be a nixon's drug war has has been worse
for this country than then a well even on probation watch him practice
you know again minorities at me in New York City all the seal the people's
this top interest for marijuana ninety percent of those people
are Hispanic black solar there's a racial problem in the country but it's
only exasperated by the
all the equipment these people have so in in Concord New Hampshire this week
they
you know they they get they did a Freedom of Information Act filing and
they got this
you know me thing by the police chief in their start to push back i mean i i
don't have any success but
is that what you're talking about when you say organized locally
organized locally are in fact I'll I royal
a verbal orders that limited roles it was actually pass part also the Council
shall also *** it was the first in the world now forty some states in
with a local bodies are actually thinking about doing it but we started
with that at all
there are little dallas also Virginia less than thirty thousand
so you can make an impact I mean getting the the federal government to move in
and Jermaine
it was just a lobbyist sell the congressman's office issued might be
able to make some headway but we don't have access to those kind of people
should we be alleged you should we lobbying as it were to
cut off federal funds for military
a equipment going to our police departments yeah I'd also
low census is a study the media and it im
I have a *** a bottle cover the walls it's called a psychologist Supplier
struggle to all these experiments they've done with policemen and he's
a military outfits they become the altar they're no longer peace officers and
they have regreso they shoot the dogs issue people
you get all these cases I 30 pages a footnote in the book
all these things a document it's happening on a daily basis
right and and we need to step back from the precipice we are becoming
the thing that we so for so many years you know we are not easy for either one
be recording what we're doing watching innocent so this is a bypass any for
them Mr
station right business for Elise and that's what they were thinking by the
way drones are coming in 2015 and the end they want to build the Berlin wall's
on the southern border
exactly I mean it's it's just it's absolutely insane
getting free it AT&T again again organized public
organize look what John Whitehead founder the Rutherford Institute of your
the new book a government
above Wall see emerging police state you can read all about it
rutherford FRD dotnet are .org she's
gonna RJR's thanks Lance china says the Thom Hartmann program
thank you very much john for being with us today for talking with me
we'll be right back