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>> HI THERE AND WELCOME
AND WELCOME TO
HOMEKEEPERS, AND IT IS SO
GOOD TO BE WITH YOU, AND
IT IS A PLEASURE TO KNOW
YOU ARE THERE AND WE LOVE
TO HEAR FROM YOU AND GOD
BLESS YOU FOR WATCHING,
AND THIS IS AN IMPORTANT
PROGRAM TODAY AND WE ARE
PICKING UP WHERE WE LEFT
OFF YESTERDAY AND THIS IS
THE STORY OF THE BOB AND
AUDREY MEISNER AND THE
INTERVIEW IS SUCH, AND WE
DON'T HAVE THE TIME FOR A
RECIPE, AND TRUST ME, AND
IF YOU WILL WATCH THIS,
YOU WILL GAIN AND SO MUCH
FROM IT, AND I HOPE THAT
YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO DO
THIS, AND IF YOU COULD
REMEMBER YESTERDAY, AS THE
INTERVIEW STARTED, AND THE
PASTOR AND HIS WIFE AND
THEY HAD A TELEVISION
MINISTRY AND SHE GOT
INVOLVED WITH ANOTHER
PERSON AND SHE HAD AN
AFFAIR AND THEY TOLD YOU A
LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE
HEARTBREAK, AND THE
UNBELIEVABLE PAIN THAT
THEY WERE GOING THROUGH AS
THEY TRIED TO WORK IT OUT,
AND THE QUESTION WAS PUT
OUT, AND IS IT POSSIBLE
THAT SHE COULD BE
PREGNANT?
AND THAT IS WHAT THEY'RE
GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT
TODAY, AND BEFORE WE JOIN
THE INTERVIEW, LET ME
REMIND YOU THAT WE ARE
VIEWER SUPPORTED, AND IF
YOU CAN GIVE BY CREDIT
CARD OR WHATEVER THE
TELEPHONE NUMBER IS ON
YOUR SCREEN, AND YOU CAN
WRITE TO ME AND PO BOX
6922 IN CLEARWATER FLORIDA
33758 AND NOW WE WOULD GO
TO THE INTERVIEW AND I
DON'T WANT YOU TO MISS ONE
SECOND OF IT, AND WE WILL
PICK UP WHERE WE HAVE LEFT
OFF, AND WITH THAT AND
THIS IS A CLIFFHANGER, AND
IS SHE PREGNANT BY THE
OTHER MAN?
TAKE A LOOK.
AND IN CASE PEOPLE ARE
TUNING IN, AND WE HAVE
FOUND OUT, THAT YOU WERE A
PASTOR AND YOU HAD A TV
PROGRAM AND YOU HAD AN
AFFAIR, WITH SOMEBODY AND
YOU COULD FAST AND I
GUESS, ALL HELL BROKE
LOOSE AND THAT WOULD BE
THE UNDERSTATEMENT.
>> AND WE GOT THE HELP WE
NEEDED, BUT LATER, AND WE
GOT BACK TO HOME IN
CANADA.
AND WE WENT TO THE OFFICE
AND WE FOUND OUT, AND THEY
SAID I WAS POSITIVELY
PREGNANT AND THEN EVERY
HOPE I HAD FOR MY FUTURE
WAS GOING
>> AND WE WERE IN SHOCK,
AND THE NEXT PRAISE, AND
THAT HE SAID, DO YOU WANT
TO CONTINUE THE PREGNANCY?
AND THEN I SAID YES.
>> AND YOU WERE THE ONE?
>> I FELT STRENGTH, I WAS
THINKING, I HAVE THREE
KIDS AND THEY ARE 10 AND
12 AND 15.
AND THIS BABY.
AND HE HAD HAD A
VASECTOMY.
AND THE MAN WAS BIRACIAL
AND FROM ON, I WOULD BE
KNOWN FOR THE MOST STUPID
AND SELFISH THING.
AND I SAW MY LIFE HAVING
NO HAPPY ENDING AND I WAS
DISQUALIFIED
>> AND YOU COULD NOT MAKE
THIS UP IF YOU TRIED.
AND THE PLOT GETS THICKER
AND THE PLOT WAS JUST
GETTING THICKER, AND IT
WAS AWFUL.
>> I AM SO IMPRESSED, HOW
THE LORD KEPT TALKING TO
YOU AND HOW YOU SHOULD
BEHAVE, AND THIS WAS THE
ILLUSTRATION OF THE
HEAVENLY FATHER AND HE
SAID, WE ARE GOING TO TAKE
THE BABY TO TERM.
NOW THINK ABOUT THAT.
>> AND I CALLED, I DID NOT
KNOW HE KNEW, I DID NOT
KNOW WHAT TO DO.
AND THEY SAID THAT GIVES
SOME PILLS, AND THEY SAID
THE PROBLEM WOULD BE GONE.
AND THEN I SAID JESUS,
THIS IS NOT YOUR HEART BUT
I COULD NOT DO IT AND I
UNDERSTAND, THE ABORTIONS.
AND THIS IS A CRISIS, YOU
ARE DESPERATE AND I
DECIDED, NOT TO HAVE THE
ABORTION.
BUT I PLEADED FOR A
MISCARRIAGE.
AND I SAID, TAKE THIS AWAY
FROM ME.
BUT WHEN I WAS PRAYING,
AND GOD DID NOT ANSWER THE
PRAYER.
AND WHAT I WAS DOING, I
WAS ASKING GOD TO TAKE ME
OUT OF MY CIRCUMSTANCES.
>> AND YOU JUST HEADED
CONTINUE.
AND ADULTERY IS
SELFISHNESS.
>> EXACTLY, AND GOD TOLD
ME HE WOULD NOT TAKE ME
OUT BUT THROUGH.
AND YOU COME OUT ON THE
OTHER SIDE AND YOU ARE
DIFFERENT.
>> AND WHEN I WAS GOING
THROUGH YOUR STORY, I WAS
GETTING A VISION AND YOU
HAD BEEN TO COUNSELING AND
YOU WERE TRYING REALLY
HARD.
AND BOTH OF YOU, AND WITH
WHATEVER, AND WHATEVER YOU
COULD DO, AND NOW YOU HAD
A VISUAL THING, AND YOU
HAVE GOT A WIFE AND SHE IS
GAINING WEIGHT.
AND SHE IS GETTING
PREGNANT.
AND LOOKING PREGNANT.
BUT HOW IN THE WORLD, DID
YOU LIVE WITH THAT?
>> IT WAS NOT EASY, AND I
HAD TO GO TO WORK IN THE
DAYTIME, AND I HAVE MY
CHILDREN AND MY WIFE I
TRIED TO KEEP THE FAMILY
TOGETHER.
AND WHAT WAS HAPPENING,
AND I DID NOT WANT TO
PAINT MYSELF AS A GREAT
SAINT, BECAUSE I WAS NOT
BUT I WISH I WAS.
I WANTED TO PUNISH HER FOR
WHAT SHE WAS PUTTING ME
THROUGH.
I DID NOT FEEL LIKE I
DESERVED IT.
I DID NOT THINK IT WAS
FAIR IT WAS HORRIBLE, AND
FOR A WOMAN TO BE PREGNANT
AND THE VISUALS WERE
TORMENTING ME AND DAY AND
NIGHT.
AND EVERYTHING WANTED TO
PUNISH HER BUT I DID WANT
TO LOVE HER.
AND I WAS WRESTLING WITH
THE EMOTIONS, AND ONE
MORNING I WAS WITH MY
PASTOR IN THE OFFICE, AND
HE WAS GIVING ME A HARD
TIME AND RAILING ON ME.
AND FINALLY I SAID STOP.
AND WHY IS IT THAT WE ARE
TOGETHER AND WHEN I SEE
YOU AND YOU ARE PICKING ON
ME BUT SHE IS THE ONE WITH
THE PROBLEM.
AND HE STOPPED, AND HE
LEANED OVER THE TABLE AND
HE POINTED HIS FINGER IN
MY FACE, HE SAYS BOB,
WHAT'S DONE IS DONE AND
WHAT I NEED TO KNOW, IF
YOU WOULD BE THE MAN OF
GOD THAT YOU'VE GOT TO BE
TO KEEP YOUR FAMILY
TOGETHER.
AND THE REST IS UP TO YOU.
>> HE WAS TOUGH.
>> I WANTED TO PLAY THE
THE VICTIM, I WANTED
SYMPATHY.
I WANTED PEOPLE TO GIVE ME
SYMPATHY, BUT HE KNEW, AND
HE KNEW THE LIFE OF GOD
INSIDE OF ME AND WANTING
TO BE RELEASED.
AND THIS IS NOT ABOUT
INFORMATION AND THIS IS
ABOUT A TRANSFORMED HEART
AND I KNEW MY CAPACITY
LOVE WAS LIMITED.
AND I KNEW WHAT IT WAS
LIKE TO HAVE A LITTLE
CHILD PULL ON YOUR LEG AND
CALL YOU DADDY BUT I KNEW
WHAT WAS INSIDE OF ME, BUT
I WAS THINKING, I AM NOT
YOUR DADDY.
I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO KEEP
THE BABY AS MY OWN.
I HAD A CHRISTIAN LEADER,
AND PEOPLE IN THE BODY OF
CHRIST, AND DAVID SAY, YOU
ARE DOING SO GOOD AND WE
ARE SO PROUD, BUT YOU
COULD GIVE THE BABY AWAY
FOR ADOPTION.
AND DON'T PUT THE STRAIN
ON YOUR CHILDREN AND
FAMILY.
AND YOU ARE DOING SO WELL
AND THAT WAS MY INTENTION.
AND YOU KNOW, AND WILL I
BE ABLE TO LOVE THE BABY
OR NOT?
AND THE BABY WAS THE
INNOCENT ONE.
BUT I WAS THE ONE WITH THE
PROBLEM AND NOT THE BABY.
>> AND THESE WERE
WELL-MEANING CHRISTIANS.
>> AND THEN I SAID TO THE
PASTOR, AND WE WENT OUT
FOR COFFEE AND HE KNEW
THAT TURMOIL AND I SAID,
WHAT DO I DO?
AND THEN HE SAID, AND HE
SAYS BOB, THERE IS A BABY
ON YOUR DOORSTEP AND WHAT
DO YOU DO?
AND WOULD YOU PARTICIPATE
WITH THE FATHERLESS
GENERATION AND WOULD YOU
BE A FATHER TO THE
FATHERLESS?
AND IT IS TIME TO GROW UP.
>> I TELL YOU, AND WE
DON'T GET THAT TRUTH IN
THE BODY OF CHRIST.
AND ESPECIALLY IN AMERICA.
AND NOW, AND WHAT WERE YOU
GOING THROUGH?
AND YOU ARE CARRYING THE
BABY AND WE KNOW HOW HE
FELT THAT YOU WERE
CARRYING THE BABY.
AND WAS THERE, AND WAS
THERE A WAR GOING ON?
AND DID YOU LOVE THE BABY?
>> I WOULD HAVE DONE
ANYTHING FOR BOB.
I HAD A MOTHER'S HEART, I
WAS SO BROKEN AND I WOULD
DO ANYTHING, I WAS GOING
THROUGH SHAME AND THE
PUNISHMENT WAS SO HARD.
I WAS TRYING TO BE PERFECT
AND HE WAS LED ME LIKE YOU
DID.
>> YOU WERE PROBABLY
UNKNOWING, DO YOU KNOW
WHAT I'M SAYING?
>> I WAS BEING REALLY
SWEET AND LOVING.
>> AND DID YOU BELIEVE
HER?
>> I WANTED TO BUT THERE
WAS THE EVIDENCE WAS, AND
SHE SAYS, YOU LOVE ME,
WITH THE EVIDENCE WAS YOU
DID NOT.
>> I CAN REMEMBER, I
WANTED TO CUT MYSELF TO
SHOW I COULD BE REPENTANT.
>> AND YOU COULD NOT DO
ENOUGH?
>> I WAS WITH MY FATHER
WHEN I WAS PREGNANT, AND I
COULD NOT DO IT AND MY
FATHER SAID, AND AUDREY
THIS IS WHAT YOU DID BUT
NOT WHO YOU ARE.
AND THAT WAS SO GOOD, AND
THEN I WAS HANGING ON FOR
DEAR LIFE.
>> AND YOU KNOW, AND WE
SAY, A WORD FROM THE LORD
>> BUT THAT WAS STRAIGHT
FROM MY FATHER.
AND BOTH OF YOU, HAD A
MOMENTS.
AND YOU COULD HOLD ON, AND
I THINK SOMETHING THAT IS
SO INTERESTING, AND WITH
YOUR OTHER PREGNANCIES AND
YOU THREW UP ALL OF THE
TIME BUT THIS TIME, THERE
WAS NOTHING?
>> AND I COULD REMEMBER
WRITING IN MY JOURNAL.
I WOULD SAY GOD, AND I HAD
TO WRITE SOMETHING DOWN,
BUT AFTER FIVE MONTHS, I
HAVE NOT THROWN UP.
AND THEN I THOUGHT,
AUDREY, YOU DON'T HAVE THE
STRENGTH TO CARRY THE BABY
SO I WILL CARRY THE BABY
FOR YOU.
AND YOU DON'T FEEL THE
EFFECTS.
AND GOD LOVES YOU.
>> AND WE HAVE GOT TO MOVE
ALONG AND WE REALLY DO
NEED TWO HOURS.
AND YOU HAD TO TELL THE
CHILDREN.
>>THIS IS A JOURNEY, AND
WHATEVER THEY MIGHT BE, DO
NOT GIVE UP AND DO NOT
GIVE UP.
AND THERE IS A JOURNEY AND
A PROCESS AND THERE IS A
WRESTLING AND GET THE HELP
YOU NEED.
BUT WE HAD TO TELL THE
CHILDREN AND WE HAVE MOVED
AWAY FROM ANOTHER COUNTRY
AND OUR CHILDREN, AND THEY
WENT TO NEW SCHOOLS, AND I
WAS IN A NEW JOB.
>> AND WE WERE SO SCARED
AND WE LOVE THE KIDS AND
WE DID NOT WANT HIM TO BE
DAMAGED.
>> AND WE HAD THEM COME
IN, AND MY SON, HE WAS 15.
AND WE WERE SITTING ON THE
FLOOR AND WE WERE CRYING.
AND WE WERE FEAR AND HE
WAS SO AFRAID, AND MY
13-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER AND
SHE WAS NERVOUS.
AND MY SON WAS 10 YEARS
OLD, AND WITH THE FIVE OF
US ON THE FLOOR, NOT GOT
UP.
AND THEN I GOT THE
BLANKET, AND WITH AUDREY
ON THE GROUND, I TOOK THE
BLANKET AND I COVERED HER
AND THEN I WRAPPED MY ARMS
AROUND HER AND THEN I
LOOKED AT MY CHILDREN AND
I SAID KIDS, THIS IS BUT
GOD DOES WHEN WE MAKE A
MISTAKE AND HE WILL COME
TO US AND HE WILL COVER US
AND HE WILL WRAP HIS ARMS
AROUND US AND HE SAYS HE
WOULD NEVER LEAVE US.
AND WITH AUDREY COVERED,
AND THEN I SAID, AND I
TOLD THEM I LOVE THEM AND
WE ARE A FAMILY, AND WE
BELONG TOGETHER.
AND THEN I'M AGAIN TALKING
ABOUT SECURITY.
THEN I BEGAN TO SPEAK
SECURITY TO THEM.
I SAID WERE GOING TO BE
HAVING A BABY BROTHER.
AND MY SON WAS FIGURING IT
OUT AND MY DAUGHTER AND MY
SON WERE CRYING.
AND THEY COULD NOT CONTAIN
THE EXCITEMENT AND SHE
SAID DADDY, WERE GOING TO
BE HAVING A BABY.
AND SHE WAS SO EXCITED.
AND SHE WAS CRYING AGAIN,
AND SHE HAD A BIG SMILE,
AND SHE SAID DADDY, WE ARE
HAVING A BABY.
AND MY SON DAVID, WHO WAS
10 AND HE WAS LOOKING AT
EVERYBODY, AND HE SAID, I
AM CONFUSED WITH OF GOD BE
THE YOUNGEST ANYMORE.
AND WE KNEW THAT WE WOULD
BE OKAY AND IT WAS A
JOURNEY.
AND YOU KNOW, THAT A FEW
MONTHS LATER AND THEN WE
WERE AT THE HOSPITAL.
AND IT WAS TIME FOR THE
BABY.
>> AND YOU KNEW IT WOULD
BE A BOY?
>> AND WE TALKED ABOUT,
AND WE TALK ABOUT THE
EPITOME OF SELFISHNESS I
SAID, I WANTED A BABY
GIRL.
AND THEN SHE CAN HAVE A
LITTLE GIRL AND I CAN
DISCONNECT AS A FATHER AND
THAT WOULD BE SELFISH BUT
ANYWAY.
>> THAT WOULD BE A HUMAN
EMOTION.
>> IT WAS A LITTLE BOY,
AND THIS KID NEEDED A
FATHER YOU NEED A DAD.
AND I WANTED TO BE THE
FATHER.
AND MY DAUGHTER AND I CAME
UP WITH A MIDDLE NAME, AND
THE NAME IS THEODORE
MEANING A DIVINE GIFT.
HE IS NOT AN ACCIDENT OR A
MISTAKE.
AND HE IS NOT THE RESULT
OF AN AFFAIR BUT FROM THE
HEART OF GOD.
AND HE WAS GIVEN TO US.
AND WE ARE A FAMILY.
AND I GAVE HIM THE FIRST
NAME, ROBERT.
THAT IS MY NAME.
AND ROBERT THEODORE
MEISNER.
BECAUSE, I DID NOT WANT MY
SON TO QUESTION IN HIS
LIFE WHO HE WAS, THAT
WOULD BE MY SON AND HE
BELONGS AND WE ARE A
FAMILY.
>> AND I WANT TO SHOW THE
PICTURE, OF THE DAY, AND
THIS IS LITTLE ROBERT IN
THE HOSPITAL.
>> AND WE WERE SCARED, BUT
THERE WAS A PRECIOUS LIFE
AND THIS WAS GIVEN TO US.
AND AS WE TURN THE PAGE,
AND FOR THE HEALING.
>> AND DO YOU HAVE ANY
IDEA, AND MAYBE ONLY
ETERNITY CAN REVEAL WHAT
YOUR CHILDREN HAVE
LEARNED?
AND THE FAMILY COULD HAVE
BEEN COMPLETELY
FRAGMENTED.
>> AND MY SON SAYS, THIS
IS A PICTURE OF THE
FAMILY.
AND MY SON IS IN NEW YORK
NOW, AND HE SAID, I'VE
SEEN THE LOVE OF GOD IN
FRONT OF ME AND AND NOW I
KNOW WHEN I MESS UP AND I
WOULD RUN TO MY HEAVENLY
FATHER.
>>AND WHEN HE READ THE
BOOK, HE CALLED ME AND HE
SAID, MOM AND DAD, AND HE
SAID I CAN JUST YOU WANTED
THING.
AND HE SAID I COULD JUST
WORSHIP GOD.
YOU SAID, I CANNOT BELIEVE
THIS IS MY FAMILY AND THIS
IS US.
>> AND THEY ALL LOVE GOD,
AND WE THOUGHT WE WOULD BE
DISQUALIFIED.
BUT NOW WE CAN HELP
OTHERS.
>> OUR REDEEMER LIVES.
>> I HAVE A HUNCH, THAT
STORY HAS BEEN AS POWERFUL
IN YOUR LIFE AS THIS HAS
BEEN IN MY AND THIS IS NOT
OVER YET FRIENDS, AND
BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHEN
JESUS WAS ON THE CROSS AND
HE SAID, IT IS FINISHED,
AND I THINK THAT HAS SO
MANY MEANINGS FOR US TODAY
AND I THINK IT MEANS THAT
ALL OF THIS TURMOIL AND
SORROW AND PAIN AND
DIVISION THAT CAN COME
INTO OUR LIVES, THERE IS A
POINT WHERE HE WANTS IT
FINISHED AND HE WANTS IT
OVER .
AND AS WE CONTINUE ON WITH
THE STORY OF THE
MEISNER'S, YOU WILL SEE
THAT EVEN WITH THE GOOD
DECISIONS THAT WERE MADE
FOR THE FAMILY, AND I JUST
CANNOT GET OVER BOB TAKING
THE CHILD AND BEING THE
FATHER AND NAMING HIM AND
GIVING HIM HIS OWN NAME,
THERE WAS STILL SOME
EMOTIONAL BAGGAGE THAT IT
WAS NOT YET FINISHED AND
THE KIND OF GOD THAT WE
SERVE ONCE ALL OF THIS
FINISHED SO THAT WE CAN
WALK HOLY AND COMPLETELY
AND BE FREE .
AND THIS IS WHAT GOD WANTS
FOR US AND YOU KNOW, AND
HE WILL WORK AT IT UNTIL
IT HAPPENS.
HE WILL WORK ON US UNTIL
THAT FINISHING PROCESS IS
COMPLETE SO, HERE ARE THE
MISER IS ONCE AGAIN AND
COMPLETE AND FINISHED AND
THAT IS OUR GOD.
>> AND INITIALLY, AND WHEN
THE CRISIS HITS, YOU WANT
TO GO INTO SURVIVAL MODE
AND THEN THINGS GET STABLE
AND A LOT OF PEOPLE
REMAINDER THAT A PLACE.
>> AND THEY WILL STAY
TOGETHER.
AND THEY CAN MAKE IT
THROUGH.
>> THEY ARE NOT THRIVING,
AND WE TALK ABOUT THRIVING
AND THIS IS THE REDEMPTION
OF GOD AND GREAT ENOUGH TO
BE ABLE TO BRING YOU TO A
PLACE WHERE YOUR LIFE AND
YOUR FAMILY HAS
SIGNIFICANCE AGAIN AND
THEN YOU CAN INFLUENCE
OTHERS FOR THE
EXTRAVAGANCE OF THE LOVE
OF THE FATHER.
>> BUT THERE WAS SOMETHING
SPECIFIC?
AND WE DON'T WANT TO RUN
OUT OF TIME.
>> AND WHAT HAPPENED WITH
ME, AND FIRST OF ALL, I
WANTED TO PERFORM FOR BOB.
AND WHEN I TOLD HIM, I
WANTED EVERYTHING TO BE
PERFECT AND I CAN
REMEMBER.
AND ROBERT WAS TWO YEARS
OLD I HAD BEEN PERFECT.
AND THEN I CAME TO THE
BOTTOM.
>> I HAD COME TO THE
PLACE, I HAD LEARNED TO
MANAGE MY ANGER.
I HAD BEEN IN THE PLACE,
AND I COULD SUPPRESS THE
IMAGES OF WHAT HAD TAKEN
PLACE BUT I WAS IN A
DEPRESSION.
AND WE WERE SURVIVING.
>> I KNEW HE WAS NOT HAPPY
AND HE DID NOT LET ME LIKE
YOU DID.
WHAT I WAS DOING ANYTHING
I CAN REMEMBER, AND EVERY
BOOK I WAS LIVING IN THE
BATHROOM AND NOTHING WAS
WORKING.
AND THEN I CAME TO THE
BOTTOM.
AND YOU HAVE TO GET TO THE
BOTTOM.
AND THEN I SAID GOT I
CANNOT THIS ANYMORE AND
HOW DO I DO THIS?
AND THE LORD SAID,
CHANGING BOB IS NOT YOUR
JOB.
AND THEN I FINALLY TRUSTED
THE LORD.
AND THEN I DECIDED, IT WAS
ABOUT GOD AND ME AND I HAD
TO BE HEALED.
AND THIS IS HOW IT
HAPPENED AND SIX MONTHS
LATER.
IT WAS A DIVINE
APPOINTMENT.
AND MY MOTHER AND FATHER
CAME FOR DINNER AND WE HAD
SOME OTHER MINISTRY
COUPLES.
AND THEN I SAID, WOULD YOU
PRAY FOR ME?
AND THE CITY SURE AND THEY
SAID AUDREY, YOU HAVE GOT
A LOT OF GRIEF, AND YOU
HAVE THERE WAS SO MUCH
GRIEF IN MY LIFE I COULD
HARDLY FORGIVE MYSELF.
I DID NOT KNOW WHAT TO DO.
AND I HAD TO FORGIVE
MYSELF.
AND THEY CAME TO THIS, AND
DO YOU BELIEVE THAT YOU
DESERVE TO FORGIVE
YOURSELF?
AND I SAID NO.
AND DID NOT.
I NEVER SHOULD HAVE DONE
IT, AND I HATED THAT
PERSON THAT CAUSED SO MUCH
PAIN, AND BECAUSE BECAUSE
YOU HAVE JESUS, YOU DO NOT
GET WHAT YOU DESERVE, AND
I TOOK IT BY FAITH, AND
THEN I GOT IN TOUCH WITH
MY GRIEF, AND I LET IT ALL
OUT, AND FOR 20 MINUTES
AND I CRIED, FOR 20
MINUTES, AND THEN I SAW
THE VISUAL, AND THERE I
WAS, AND I HAD ON THE MOST
BEAUTIFUL ROBE OF
RIGHTEOUSNESS
>> PRAISE GOD.
>> AND JESUS SAYS, WOULD
YOU AGREE WITH HOW I SEE
YOU?
AND WHEN I SAW THAT, AND
WHEN THIS IS SO IMPORTANT,
AND WHEN YOU SEE THIS, I
COULD FEEL THE PEOPLE AND
THEY WERE PEOPLE DRAWING
MARKERS ON ME, AND THEY
WERE THE ONE AND THEY
SAID, AND WHY IS SHE
LAUGHING AND SHE DOES NOT
BE HAPPY, BUT AT THAT
MOMENT, EVERYTHING
CHANGED, AND I WAS FREE
AND I AM SAYING THAT I WAS
DONE AND THANK YOU JESUS
AND YOU REALLY DID DIE FOR
MY SINS AND MY SHAME.
AND I CARRIED THAT WERE SO
MANY YEARS.
>> AND WHEN IT COMES TO
FORGIVENESS, AND THE
PEOPLE THAT DO NOT FORGIVE
THEMSELVES, THEY SAY THE
CROSS IS NOT ENOUGH FOR
ME, AND IT IS GOOD ENOUGH
FOR EVERYBODY ELSE AND IT
IS ALMOST SOMETHING ABOUT
THEIR PRIDE.
ABOUT THE CROSS IS ENOUGH,
AND YOU GOT RID OF YOUR
SORROW.
AND YOU WERE SO.
>> AND OVERLAPPING
CONVERSATION
>> AND SHE WAS TOTALLY SET
FREE OH, SO FREE
>> AND I WAS PRAYING WITH
MY FRIENDS, AND WE WERE
THERE, AND THEY ARE OUR
DEAR FRIENDS AND DON LOOK
AT ME, AND HE WANTED TO
PRAY FOR ME AND HE PUT HIS
HANDS ON ME, AND HE SAYS,
YOU ARE NOT FORGIVING I
SAID NO, DO YOU THINK SO?
>> LAUGHTER
>> AND DON SAID, YOU ARE
NOT READY TO RECEIVE AND I
AM NOT READY TO RECEIVE,
AND THIS WAS WHY, IT WAS
NOT FAIR, AND HOW, AND SHE
HAD CAUSED THE CHAOS, AND
NOW SHE HAS A MOMENT WITH
GOD, AND SHE GETS TO GO
FREE, AND I HAVE DONE
EVERYTHING TO KEEP THE
FAMILY TOGETHER AND I HIM
BATTLING DEPRESSION AND
NOW SHE GETS TO GO FREE,
BUT EVERYTHING WAS
SCREAMING, THIS IS NOT
FAIR AND YOU SEE THE
GOSPEL IS NOT FAIR BUT IT
IS FREE AND WE GOT
TOGETHER
>> AND WE THANK YOU LORD
FOR ANOTHER DAY
>> AND THEN I WENT THROUGH
A SERIES, AND I BEGAN TO
GO BACK OVER THE THINGS,
THAT I HAD CREATED
>> AND YOU HAD TO CAST
THEM DOWN
>> AND OUT OF ALL OF THE
QUESTIONING, I HAD KNOW
WHAT IT HAPPENED AND HOW
MANY TIMES, THEY WERE
VIVID AND THEY WERE
TORMENTING ME, AND I HAD
SUPPRESSED THE ANGER AND
RAGE WAS SHOUTING MY BODY
DOWN AND I WAS BECOMING
PHYSICALLY ILL.
AND I COULD GO BACK AGAIN
AND AGAIN, AND THE LORD
WAS WITH ME, AND I SAID I
FORGIVE YOU, AND I FORGIVE
YOU AND AFTER 20 MINUTES,
AND I WAS CRYING, AND YOU
SHARED WITH ME YOUR STORY,
I DID NOT THINK I COULD
CRY ANYMORE, I SAID, CAN
WE BE DONE NOW?
AND HE WANTED TO PRAY AND
HE SAID, NO, THERE IS
SOMETHING ELSE AND I
THOUGHT, THIS IS GREAT,
AND YOU DON'T GET TO GO
FREE AND THIS IS JUST
RELIGION BUT I SAID, AND
WHEN YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT
TO DO, WHAT DO YOU DO?
YOU ASK GOD, AND I WANTED
THE LORD TO SHOW ME AND
IMMEDIATELY AND THE LORD
REMINDED ME AND THE IMAGES
THAT I HAD CREATED AND
WHEN SHE HAD BECOME
PREGNANT, AND I DID NOT GO
BACK THERE AND WHEN I DID,
I WOULD STAND AND THE
IMAGERY AND I WOULD POINT
MY FINGER AND I WOULD BE
IN JUDGMENT AND I SAID,
HOW CAN YOU DO THIS TO ME?
AND YOU CALL YOURSELF THE
JESUS GIRL, BUT THE LORD
SAID TO ME, BOB, AND YOU
ALLOW MY LOVE TO BE MADE
COMPLETELY IN YOU AND WILL
YOU GO TO HER AND WILL YOU
RESCUE HER?
AND ANY IMAGES OF MY MIND,
I STEPPED IN, AND I TOOK
HER FROM THAT PLACE, AND I
BROUGHT HER INTO MY ARMS,
AND I OPENED MY EYES, AND
SHE WAS SITTING ON THE
CHAIR, AND WE COLLAPSED
AND WE WERE FREE.
AND THIS IS A PART OF THE
PROCESS AND THE REDEMPTIVE
WORK OF GOD IS A PROCESS
AND THIS IS WHY JESUS WHEN
HE WAS ON THE CROSS FOR
YOU AND FOR ME AND HE
DECLARED IN THAT MOMENT,
AND IT IS FINISHED.
AND WHEN THOSE MOMENTS
HAPPENED, AND IT IS OVER
AND IT IS OVER.
>> PRAISE GOD IT IS OVER,
AND I JUST CAN ONLY
IMAGINE HOW MANY OUT THERE
HAVE BEEN WATCHING THIS
INTERVIEW, AND PARTED
BELONGS TO YOU, REALLY,
AND THIS IS THE THING YOU
ARE GOING THROUGH AT THE
MOMENT, AND GOD WANTS YOU
FREE LIKE HE FREED THE
PEOPLE AND HE HELD THE
FAMILY TOGETHER, AND THERE
WAS A LOT OF PAIN, AND NOT
NEARLY AS MUCH PAIN AS IF
THEY HAD LET IT GO AND I
BELIEVE THAT GOD HAS
BROUGHT THIS STORY TO YOU
FOR A REASON AND WE HAVE
GOT A CULTURE THAT WILL
DISMISS MARRIAGE SO EASILY
AND SO SIMPLY AND YET, IT
IS A VERY AND VERY AND
VERY SERIOUS THING WHEN
YOU GET MARRIED, AND YOU
ARE MAKING A COVENANT AND
NOT JUST WITH ANOTHER
PERSON BUT WITH GOD, AND
AS BOTH PEOPLE WILL WORK
TOGETHER AND TO REALLY
HONOR THAT COVENANT AND
GOD WILL BLESS AND SO, IF
YOU HAVE NEVER PRAYED AND
IF YOU HAVE NEVER ASKED
THE LORD IN YOUR LIFE, AND
YOU HAVE NEVER SPOKEN TO
HIM AND YOU CAN TALK TO
HIM LIKE I AM TALKING TO
YOU RIGHT NOW AND THE SAME
WAY AND THAT IS PRAYER,
AND IT IS NICE, WHEN YOU
GET ON YOUR KNEES AND YOU
HUMBLE YOURSELF BEFORE THE
LORD AND YOU CAN JUST SAY
LORD, I HAVE MADE SO MANY
BAD DECISIONS AND PAYING
THE PRICE HOWEVER, I AM
ASKING YOU TO COME INTO MY
LIFE AND COME INTO MY
DECISION-MAKING PROCESS
AND TAKE THIS OVER AND
HELP ME TO MAKE DECISIONS
ACCORDING TO YOUR WILL AND
ACCORDING TO YOUR WORD AND
YOU CAN TRUST THE LORD AND
I THINK WE HAVE SHOWN YOU
AN INTERVIEW THAT HAS SUCH
GREAT THEOLOGY AND THIS IS
ILLUSTRATED ON SO MANY
LEVELS.
AND I JUST HOPE THAT YOU
WOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE IT
IN AND REMEMBER THE
LESSONS THAT A BEEN TAUGHT
THROUGH THIS COUPLE' S A
STORY.
LET ME REMIND YOU, AND
THEY ARE A VIEWER
SUPPORTED PROGRAM, AND
THIS IS SUCH A PRIVILEGE
THIS KIND OF GOOD AND GOOD
TELEVISION, AND YET AT THE
BILLS HAVE TO BE PAID AND
THE LIGHT BILL MUST BE
PAID, AND THESE WONDERFUL
GUYS WHO ARE MANNING THE
EQUIPMENT AND THEY NEED TO
BE PAID, AND SO AND WHEN
YOU GIVE TO THIS PROGRAM
AND THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS
YOU HELP US TO STAY ON THE
AIR AND THE INFORMATION IS
ON YOUR SCREEN AND I HOPE
YOU WILL TAKE A NOTE OF
IT, AND I HOPE YOU WILL
SEND IS SOMETHING WHEN YOU
CAN AND PLEASE JOIN ME
NEXT TIME AND REMEMBER
THERE IS NO HIGHER CALLING
THAN THAT OF A HOME
KEEPER.
GOD BLESS YOU.
>> IF YOU WOULD LIKE A
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PROGRAM NUMBER WHICH
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>> CLOSED CAPTIONING
PROVIDED BY THE STAFF OF
THE CHRISTIAN TELEVISION
NETWORK.
>> [MUSIC TO
CONCLUSION.]-♪