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Good morning, everybody. It's...Wednesday, November 6th. The time is 8:03
A.M. We have a lot going on this morning, so I'd like
to move this meeting as fast as possible. And, I told people to bring some duct tape
for me, and I'll try and do the best I could, here to...move.
Let's start with (unintelligible) issues today, we'll get that out of the way.
So, Wade, let's go with letters of communication
and I know we have a couple retirement presentations, and some other awards. No, unfortunately our guests of honor
are not here for that. So, therefore, we'll forgo that. Well, why don't you make the announcement of that officially?
Certainly. Patty Bouchard, and also Jim Gushea have retired.
from the authority. One has, and one will be retiring from the authority. And, as is typical,
we will have a thank you presentation to them at the Board Meeting. Both the gifts are here,
and we'll make sure that they get that. My comment was...
with Jim, he efficiently worked hard, right to the end. I saw him take jobs, and tasks that he was doing,
he was going full tilt to get things done. And, I'm very happy, and so what a great crew we have here.
Obviously we're going to miss him. As I sit here this morning, I see Patty not being here, and that's kind of like...
doing something...for me, just a short period of time, 5 years, you miss part of the...
the climate that somebody presents to a meeting, and definitely we wish Patty, and Jim all the best.
Two great employees that gave their heart and soul to this organization, and I feel bad they're not here to receive
the presentation. So, maybe if they decide, we could do that at another time.
But, we'll remember that. As far as other letters and communications to the board, a couple things I'll pass around.
The Ogdensburg Pee Wee Football Association issued the authority a plaque, for the
2013 season, thanking the authority for the use of our field.
In your board read file, a couple of things I'll bring your attention to. There's a very nice thank you letter from Tony Bjork,
Ogdensburg City School District. The St. Lawrence Federal Credit Union,
thanking the authority for the use of the parking lot. And, a very nice...
letter to the editor, thanking the bridge and port authority from Tony Bjork,
he's the Director of athletics and physical education. Along with various other
news articles... during the period. One thing,
towards the back, Cape Airs first French ad ever, is in the back,
as well. What's it say? (laughter)
It says, if you're traveling to the United States...
(interrupts): Oh, that's right, you know French. (laughter - cross talk - unintelligible) I actually looked it up.
Did you really? If you need an easy way to travel, Cape Air is the way to do it. Oh, okay. (laughter)
That's good. Just welcoming. Well, it's important somebody read it. Very good.
That's...that's it for the correspondence. Okay, thank you for that, Wade.
I'd like to do the reports, and the things that we have here. To make it short...
folks, could we make it really...question and answer, giving us the brief highlights that you wish to...
yes? You missed the minutes. Oh, did I really? You think I'm in a hurry?
Yes, we did, I jumped right over it, thanks Tisha. All right, approval of the Board Minutes? So moved. So moved, from
Mr. Carter. Second. Second from Steve Barlow. Any other further questions?
All those in favor, signify by saying aye? Aye. Nays? Passed. Now,
we'll going into it now. Okay, very abbreviated Executive Director Reports.
Addie Russell, Assemblywoman Addie Rusell, and Assemblyman Albert Stirpe,
held the New York State Assembly's Export and Trade Roundtable discussion, here at the authority. We need to be thankful for them.
There is a copy of an interim inspection report in your folder,
actually I didn't see it in there, we'll make sure that you get a copy of that. But, there is an interim
inspection report there. Our high-priority projects are under review by the state.
Army Corps of Engineers has awarded and $87,000 for dredging.
I'm sorry, for boring at the Port of Ogdensburg.
And, special projects at the airport continues.
What does that boring really mean? For the people that are just kind of saying, "What's happening here?" Basically, it's...
...well, they kind of get away from the port, if we're talking about land-based boring.
What you're doing is, you're essentially taking a soil sample to see what's there. That's basically what's going on, except
it's going on in the marina. I just want to know how far down it's hard pan. Yeah.
How hard it's going to be to dig, doing all that. And, those borings
may take place as soon as November this year. How many do they plan to do?
Not clear on that, but I'll get you that information, Doug. You know why I'm asking that?
The samples on our road project at the port...they seem to be quite...(laughter - crosstalk - unintelligible)
Well, it's a few of them, that's all. (laughter) What they'll have to do is, depends on how many feet they're going to do, and stuff. They're going to
test for how hard it is, and stuff, for the contractor bidding the project, so the state will know how much money they want to put in there for
a bid? So, say they want 10 million dollars in there, they're going to say that's what it's going to cost to dredge it because of
work, and how hard the hard pan is down below. When they did it the last time, they had to do it with drag mines.
A big clam bucket. A heavy heavy clam bucket with hydraulic clams on it, to go down in there, and get it out.
They couldn't do it with just a regular one, so they had to bring that in.
That's all I'm saying, I remember that project very well. I'll ask that question, and I'll also provide
with the name of the company. Any other questions for Wade? Okay, excellent.
Fred? Yes, our MWBE usage for the second quarter was 70.6%
Bringing our year-to-date to 50%. I believe that
the next two quarters will be somewhere around our 20% goal, for this year.
For the year, in excellent shape. Let me stop there,
because there was a concern we always had, is the competitive pricing,
and that's been fairly close? Well, for the insurance
we got our insurance for less. They won the bid, along with it being an MWBE,
the cost was less. And, that was a big factor, moving our insurance
to the Trans Rail company. And, another big factor was the
renting trucks from TJ Clement, and hiring our people to move the salt.
Rather than the other vendor that was coming in with their employees, and their trucks.
to move the salt. The TJ Clement company in Watertown, is an MWBE.
Just to piggyback on what Sam said, we are getting the same quality of stuff?
I believe that we're getting better...
service on the insurance side. That's good. And, Steve,TJ Clement?
Yeah, actually it's falling into place. It's just a lot more work to find them.
We haven't...I'm aware of what you're talking about, we look for that, but it's all either being
low in quality too, so we're...I've been happy so far. Good. So, it's been kind of working out.
And, the reason that I say we'll be closer to the 20%, is because we're paying
the Trans Rail company quarterly. And, about half of that insurance had to be paid
once. So, that's why the number was so big in the second quarter.
But we'll be continue to be updating that, about our 20% goal.
The RFP for banking has been released. We've been getting a lot of calls with questions...
for more details, and things like that. Is that the exchange? No, this is the
entire...all of our banking. Oh, all of our banking. Including exchanges rates. Okay.
And, credit cards and things like that. Karen's not here today, she's getting PARIS training
in Albany today. And, you'll see the last thing on my list was "input the budget into PARIS".
That may be, should be on Karen's list, after today. (laughter) She has been
providing information for the harbor deepening project, with the Army Corps of Engineers, getting that ready.
And, she trained with Patty on the toll booth scheduling. And, some
health insurance issues, and so on. And, she works quite a bit
with our insurance provider, with Transrail, through Rick Fieldman.
I see that...that is working with Patty. Now is she taking some of Patty's duties?
Yes, she'll be getting some of those duties. Like the toll booth scheduling,
is one. The rest we will be assigning as we
go along, perhaps with some of those duties. Fred, I'd like to...
maybe you know this, maybe Wade knows it. On the airport, do we have a total number of
people that flew in and out of our airport with Cape Air, last year? I'm not talking about the regular flights.
I'm talking about all their flights. Yes, I have that.
And, I know it was around...
...I'm sorry, I used to know right off the top of my head. Is that, what I'm looking for,
and I got thinking more about it. We know the size of the passenger planes. We know the size of the flights.
We know we're hitting the 999 area, for departures, and passengers. Yes. But in overall,
I've seen double planes out here, on certain occasions and stuff. And, there are
passengers that are flying out. And, why shouldn't that count towards getting over the ten thousand mark?
Anybody that flies out does count. There's no
passengers that do not count. They would all be...(interrupts): So, we should be over the ten thousand mark.
Well, it's only enplanements. It's not passengers. And, it's only those that are leaving.
The leaving is around five thousand. But, it only counts for enplanements.
The ones that come in and enplane somewhere else, are those that, you know, you can only count them once.
So it's only the people leaving. Leaving, yes. You've answered my question.
Quickly through these reports that were on a separate piece of paper. The bridge traffic is...
for the autos was up 6%. A recovery from the percentage increase
in September. And, trucks were up 4.5%. That was a nice increase,
and that's attributable to increased traffic from ACCO.
And then, the next one is the financial
here, I think one of the things is the benefits. That's up
quite a bit. And that was from some...unemployment insurance.
From the wind project.
Now, it seems the warehouse and storage income is down? Yes. Does that change as we get to the end of the year?
Well, I think that's down because we've had less salt carried over. But, the port
operating income is up considerably. Yes. Between the two, the port is doing well.
But, a lot of this is from the activity of the salt, but the warehousing
and storage is down, because of the last year. Well, I didn't know if that changed...
toward...and then that will stay consistent? Yeah, I think that will stay consistent.
I think we may get closer, that 81,000 may get less. It will likely be less, because of some things
that are coming in. Okay. But, it will be a negative I think, right along. Okay.
Any questions about either of those reports?
And, I did not have the airport report, because apparently (unintelligible) is out of town.
I've emailed him, and haven't had a response. And, that usually means that he's not around.
Either on Cape Air business, and I believe he also is a reservist.
And, he's gone from time to time with those two possibilities.
Anything else for Fred? John?
We had two interesting meetings regarding future work
activity potential, both of those are progressing. We've leased
the biggest warehouse out at the port, and that's on your agenda for approval today.
We received a $100,000 grant for fiber in the industrial park, which is good news.
Continue to work with a company that we've developed as a prospect, and it has an interest
in working here. ACCO's Foreign Trade Zone...
boundary amendments have exact...(unintelligible)...but that's been approved anyway
by the Foreign Trade Zone's board, and they'll be activating that, probably not til April, that's after they do some
software training, and they'll train them. There's several new leases on there.
Worth about 162,000 in revenue. And, I'm working with Canton ATC, in regards
to the StartUp New York program, trying to get a couple of our buildings
...in that program. Those are the highlights.
John, I think, you know,
philosophically what we've done is, building #1 has become...
we'll call it a business mall. A little small to start, we didn't realize we couldn't get any...a large person, or
operation to come in. And, give us an insight here of what's happening, and how it's moving
along. I mean, who's moved in? 7000 square
feet of the 30,000 square foot building is being renovated for room there.
AB Thermal Technology rents about 3000 square feet.
And, we have a couple offices rented. And, there's a front office area that we're looking
at potentially as an incubator for smaller businesses. Well, it's
working out pretty good then? Yes. Doing the math, we only have 18,000 square feet
in that building. 18,000 feet? Now, what about building #11? That's our biggest...
what kind of space is that?
40,000 square feet. And, there's
30,000 available. The back loading dock area, the high bay area is rented to Allen VanGuard
on a one-year lease. One is rented to...(unintelligible)...
Farrow Technologies. They're doing pretty well, not needing any more space.
We've shown the building on multiple occasions.
There's always interest, they're always impressed with the building and everything, but nobody's actually taken
...a lease yet. And then, we have ara Shoes going in the back, taking about 6,000 square feet of space. Okay.
Good. In the big picture, we're going to have to have a conversation at some point with the Facilities Committee, though...
where to potentially site the next building. Because, we are starting to come down, I can see a point in the future
where we're going to be space-limited. So, it may be time for another spectrum. Well, the type of space
we have, it's different than just having space, that's what we talked about before. Yeah, so for example, we could have the formal
security space, it would be a great training area, a great office area. There's 5200
square feet there. But, a lot of folks that we have in the park need warehousing space, so that's not a good match right now.
And, in some of the warehouse space that we need to do, it doesn't
need to have all of the "fluff" that the other ones do, we just need a place. And, some of them, we might just
want to build cold storage. You know, as long as it's wet and dry, and it's not going to get done, that's what we need. Right.
And, a lot of it...we should be looking at areas in this area for that, closer to the bridge.
And, less confusion for the port, because of the port activities down there. Some of that could affect
certain things. And, that will be coming up in our...some of the meetings, I wanted to touch on that
a little bit. Because, it's circumstances that we don't have control over. And, we don't like to lose control.
We need...just to add to your point, we need a general low cost
shell building that could be configured for the person or company that needs it.
Very similar to what we just did over in building #14. And, we've got some nice land over there, by the...
correction facility by ACCO, where those could go, which would make sense to me, because of the ACCO
expansion, and stuff like that. And, now they're renting down in the port right now. Yes.
And, maybe if they had a building over here, you could get a longer lease, because it's right there. And, we're helping them create jobs
that way, too. So, it's a thought. Anything else for John?
John, you're doing a good job. Thank you. Steve? Steve, do you think I've got any
secret questions that you've got answers for? (laughter) You've been on top of it the last three meetings! (laughter)
I'll see what you've got for me before I ask the questions. Well, most of our
activities in the industrial park have been revolving around making space with
the building transfers and everything. So, you'll see a number of that...items that are all related to finding
homes for the tenants, and doing the work that's needed to be done in that.
On the bridge, as Wade mentioned, we received the bridge interim inspection report. And, a lot of that
was, they were looking over most of the work that our maintenance crew did this Summer. So, there's pictures in there,
it's a pretty good idea of what we've been up to out there. The airport, we ordered the snow blower,
I was kind of hoping that would be coming this Winter, but I'm told it's going to be eight to nine months
before we see that. So, it isn't anything we could just get off the shelf.
At the port, last week we received 1700...
17,500 tons of Cargill salt. And, we're relocating that right now. We just got finished
relocating 500 tons of North American salt. And...
a lot of the barns are pretty well filled up. But, we're still getting Fall deliveries of road salt to local
municipalities. And, that's pretty much the highlights. Well, there's one very
important thing, Steve, I think you left out there too. And, that's that alternate rail crossing. Whenever we have
an opportunity, we continuously improve our operations here. Why don't you mention that, and what it does
for us here? Well, going back to last year's...
windmill project, we noticed a lot of the trailers and trucks
everything was kind of...the flow was all one way. And, a lot of times they needed to be on pavement for these
State Troopers to do the inspection. And, it was just a difficult thing, for once they got loaded to turn around and then stage,
this was before the road was open, and they had to stage on the asphalt right there. So, Wade and I
were out looking, and because of all the stone and everything we put down, we really narrowed it down
where we could put a small crossing, right there at the head of...if you know where the rail lines come in,
right where you can turn around, I don't know if Wade can show you.
Right there. So, currently trucks can come
right off the scale, and head over...well, right where there's some windmills, we usually store salt now. So, they can
come right off of there, and shorten their trip through the port. And also, when we do have heavy lift,
we've got the alternative to...it just makes a lot more options of trucks getting in and out.
And, our crews...the ties were there, and pretty much, the only thing we really had to
purchase was crushed stone in between there. And we had the assistance, the railroad helped us
do the crossing properly. So, it's nothing fancy, but it really serves the purpose, it's plenty
wide enough for the heavy lift. Just to add to that, there's a huge cost savings, because before, when the...
rails unloaded the cranes and things, even though their next position was over here, they had to go all the way up here,
and around. Yeah. Now, they come right across. When we were off-loading the blades there, that was...
it just made a longer cycle time, whereas with something like that, they rotate right around there,
so it was kind of thinking ahead, and it improved the port. So, then we get our future costs down.
Steve, on the snow blower? Yes. Is our existing snow blower going to be all right? Yeah.
For this Winter? Are we going to need to rent one? No, we're good. It's still good, it's just, hopefully...
it's just, it's like some of our stuff, that if we hit anything major, it could be an issue, and we'd have to rent something.
Okay. But, we're in pretty good shape with that, so I'll cross my fingers.
Anything else for Steve? Okay, moving on. Committee reports?
I'll ask to hear his finance report, and are we ready for that committee?
No, we've received our reports, the reports went through, no questions at this point.
Okay. All right.
I have to ask, the next Board Meeting is on December 4th,
to move it to the 11th? Is that going to be a problem for anybody? Same time in the morning?
Eight o'clock board,
7:30 Facilities, if needed? Okay.
Thank you for that. Wade, why don't you take us...(interrupts): It's going to cost you.
(laughter) Indeed we will.
Wade, do you want to take us through the business items? Absolutely. Moving right along, I'll direct your attention over to page 12.
This is a supplemental lease agreement with the Ogdensburg Chamber of Commerce.
The tenant here provides a very valuable service to the traveling public. We're glad to have them here,
for about a year, at the rates, terms, and conditions that you see before you. Now, let me ask a question.
Is this the same thing we've had in place? Is this different?
What has the last couple of years been?
I thought...do we always charge these people? Yes. Or, was it figured out there was a charge, but then there was a wash?
Tell me the story about this. No, we have two separate things, we have a lease agreement,
and then...for the space, and annually we made a $5,000 contribution to the Chamber.
Is that going to be included in this? No, it can't be included in this, because that would...
it's just not appropriate, they're two separate things. How much of a
cost is this going to be on the Chamber? About $9,500.
We donate 5,000 to them, so, $4,500. But, you said
we're not going to do that anymore? No, we're still going to do that, but it can't be a part of the agreement. The lease agreement has to be a different rate
than some? It has to be...stand alone from a donation. They've got to be two separate things, they can't be
combined. We also...(unintelligible)...subletting that office in there, they make money on that, too. So, they made out
pretty well. Well, I just wanted to know, because I do feel that they're a governing agency for the city.
And, I know that we've talked about other people coming here, and due to the fact that they're a
government agency, we could maybe charge them a dollar or something, for the space and stuff.
The Chamber doesn't have a lot of money. So, I'm just looking at it that way. But, I guess you've
got it all worked out. So, be that, I'll make the motion to approve.
Second. Second, Doug. Any further questions, comments? Steve?
I'd just make the comment that is an issue with the rest of the voters, when it comes time for the
donation, maybe what we could do is look at what we donate?
You're right on line, Steve.
(incidental side conversation)
I'm on that board, and it's a struggle. I mean, they spend all their time putting
on events and everything, to raise money, just to stay...(interrupts): Well, we want to help as much as we can.
Not that the resolution isn't proper, but we could also put in there that
this is obvious, these people work hard for the whole area, and they've done a tremendous job for us.
Everybody likes the way the Chamber is. I've never heard one complaint.
From anybody. Your access out here is much easier than the access in the
actual city. Oh yeah. Just try going to Social Security. It's...(interrupts): I don't go
down there. You park on West Street, Fred, you went down this partial street, and then you get to where there's
no street. The building's not really well identified at all. We even lost a...(unintelligible)...down there. You're right.
Because, when I was the Parks and Rec Director, the Chamber of Commerce was in the Community Center. In the eighteen years I was there,
three different times. And, it just wasn't successful you know? Yeah.
Okay, any further questions, comments? All those in favor, signify
by saying aye? Aye.
Okay, over on page 14, is agenda item A2, it's a supplemental lease agreement with Barbara Pleet, at the rates, terms, and conditions
you see before you. A corresponding map is on page 15.
I'll move the resolution.
Okay, thank you. I'll second it. Ramona, seconds. Any further questions or comments?
So be it. All those in favor, signify by saying aye?
Aye. Nays? Next? Agenda item A3,
over on page 16. I guess I might
have workers comp or something! What did you do? I just cut my finger open. Oh my God! (chuckles)
We need a tourniquet! No, not yet. Wade, you can see this Surgeon, he put mine back together. (laughter)
I've got a good lawyer down at the end of the table. (laughter) Did you see the commercial with the guy that won the money for life? And, he's got a little paper cut?
Yeah, he says call the Doctor, get the tourniquet on! Can't afford it. (laughter)
But, I don't think you got that yet. No, I don't think so. (laughter) Agenda item A3 is a
great opportunity for us. And, we're very grateful to be able to work with DANC, and thankful to the
Northern Border Regional Commission, for the $100,000 grant for high speed
telecommunications within the industrial park. This is really important to us, because it's the equivalent
of having a nice industrial building, with no roads connecting to it. This will
get us that connection that we need. And, we're greatly thankful to them.
And, I'd be happy to answer any questions associated with that. John, are you the one that worked
to get this grant? Yes. Okay. Thank you for doing that, very good.
We'll report back, I've written to this commission, so it's nice...(interrupts): Are you going to stay on it?
And eventually you fit. They have very limited money, they have the award. It's like multiple
states, and they award like $500,000. Wow. 250,000 there, it's...(interrupts): So, we're very fortunate then,
to be a part of that, excellent. Highly committed. Yeah, very good. So, when you wrote those grants before, was DANC involved?
in those other grants? Or just this one here? They were for different projects. They were for...
locomotive replacement, maybe a grain bin, I'm not sure. They weren't for fiber optics.
We went with this, because we thought it would be the most competitive. And, we got 500 jobs in the industrial park.
And...projected that this would help us to create an additional 100 jobs.
Which, really is already happening, with whats happening with DeFelsko and ACCO.
I'm glad to see you're working with DANC, because they're a part of this Northern New York region, and they're very good people
to work with. I make the motion to approve this. I'll second.
A comment I would make is, do we have records of open grants, or things that
we've applied to, that we keep track of, I don't know if there's a list. Didn't you provide that one time before? Yes.
Yeah. I could update that. Yeah, update that, just to see what's active
out there. Because some things are going on...I'm not saying that we here have a political push or anything like that.
But, at least it's updated, what the thinking is, and what you're going after. And, maybe there is
a situation where...to have an update knowledge on something might help us
one way or the other, somewhere along down the line. I appreciate that, John. Thank you. All those in favor,
signify by saying aye? Aye. Okay, motion passed. Okay, over on page
17, is the Transfer and Storage Agreement with Frank Richardson at Ogdensburg International Airport, at the rates, terms, and conditions
you see there before you. A corresponding map is on page 18.
Is this the same rate as before? It's the same rate, it's...
comparable to other areas. We can review it
again in January I guess, and decide whether or not it needs to be increased. But, we do have...
we have three or four empty T Hangars right now. So, with three empty ones...
I think it's...(interrupts): That's the going rate. Yeah, it's the going rate, and you just...(interrupts): It's what everybody pays, right?
Yes. They're all at one ninety-five. We don't want to lose anybody...(interrupts): I'd make that motion, Mr. Chairman.
Second, Steve? Questions, or comments? All those in favor,
signify by saying aye? Aye. Nays? Motion passed.
On page 19, is the lease agreement, a supplemental lease agreement with Corning, for 500 square feet over in industrial building #11.
I'll make that motion. Okay.
Second. Second, Doug. Questions, or comments? All those in favor,
signify by saying aye? Aye. Nays? Motion passed. Okay, over on page 23,
we have a supplemental lease agreement with ara Shoes for additional space. This is...for...
5,860 square feet of space in the ninth industrial building.
Don, that should read building #1, as opposed to building #9. I should say, wait a minute, how'd they get
into 9? They'll be in 11. Eleven? Yeah. In the 11th industrial building.
Thank you. Well, you move fast. Already done it! (chuckles)
We need a motion? I'll move it. Steve.
Second. Doug. Any questions, or comments?
All those in favor signify by saying aye? Aye. Nays? Motion passed.
Okay, we're going to skip over page 24, because we're not quite there yet, with the lease agreement. But, that will
be on the agenda for next time. Which brings us over to page 26, agenda item C4, approval
of a supplemental agreement with West End Asset Management. This is for 744 square feet
of space in the 12th industrial building, at the rates, terms, and conditions you see before you, and the corresponding map is on page 27.
...
He's a Canadian, and just uses it for storing
ticker tape machines that we've talked about, his ticker tape machines, and he just uses it for storage space...(unintelligible).
I'll move it. Nice space, Doug.
Second? Steve? Second. Any questions on it?
All those in favor signify by saying aye? Aye. Nays? Motion passed.
Okay, over on page 28, just to preface this, why we're doing this, this is on
the 9th industrial building. It's a requirement of the deal that we had with Deringer/
DeFalsko/OBPA, and that was replacing two rooftop units on the 9th industrial building.
We solicited bids for that. We've received three quotes. And, you can see
that the JMS Mechanicals, 11,545, was the
recommended vendor. Wade? Yes. Sorry to interrupt, with the way it seems, that was our
coordinate with Skellys. I'm sorry. Yes. It's two projects. Yes.
And, just to...kind of
recap here, this is for installation of a loading dock, the two wall openings, and the
single phase electrical outlets, all of which were requirements of the transaction, similar to what you saw last month,
down where the HVAC is. Thank you, Steve. Yeah. Steve, is this bid...
are they excluded from the Davis-Bacon in section 220, prevailing wage, or no? Do they have to pay the prevailing
wages on that. There's the prevailing wage in all their quotes. Now, what is the lineup on the...
section 220 of the New York State wage and hours? There's a set limit, where you don't have to...that doesn't
not apply. What is that? I'm not sure, on a bid project, I think it's a larger amount
than this. But, generally we were using prevailing wage, just because the determination I see on...
it does go down sometimes to smaller amounts, on your everyday stuff.
So, just to keep everyone on an even platform we call it...we ask for a prevailing
wage. Could you get a copy of that, or does Frank get a copy of that, will we know what is the limit?
The exception under 220 of the labor law? Yeah. Okay. Wage and hours...(interrupts): According to the amount. And the Davis-Bacon,
there's a certain amount that doesn't comply to some of these small contractors. Fred, pardon me,
I think it's 10,000. If they're charging over 10,000 we have to...use...(interrupts): Well, we should look at
it anyways. I'll get copies, and we'll get them for the next board meeting, and bring them over. Yeah. Thanks, Frank.
Fred, are they MWBE certified. No, this is under 25,000. Okay, that's right. Okay.
I make that motion. We have a motion. Second?
Second. Second, Steve. Any questions or comments? All those in favor,
signify by saying aye? Aye. Nays? Motion passed. Over on page 33,
is approval of a Transfer and Storage Agreement with ACCO. This is a 96, the equivalent of
$96,000 annual revenue there, for 40,000 square feet of space at the Port of Ogdensburg, at the rates, terms,
and conditions you see before you. The map's on page 34. And again, you can see...
they're going to be...they'll be located at the Port of Ogdensburg. I make a motion to approve.
Second. I believe that resolution section should say $.20 per square foot per month, instead of year.
Just to note that. Yeah, that would be a good idea. Oh, yeah, there's a point in the
resolution there. (chuckles). Good check. Thanks, John.
Can I rent from you at that rate? (laughter) It'll be cold, though!
(laughter) Now, is just a one-year deal, they may need it again next year?
Or, we don't know? They don't know. They...they're really in transition right now, and they're
moving an operation down from Canada, they're installing...I've seen all kinds of contractors over there.
It's really quite a shot in the arm to all the local contractors. And then, at the same time, they're trying to
consolidate from the manufacturing facility, get everything down here before January 1st. There was a question of whether they'd be able to
do that. Have they started this process yet? Oh, yeah. Oh, okay.
So, it's just a matter of just officially just...okay. Yeah. They're going to do the Foreign Trade Zone, and it's...
quite a happy place. (cross talk - unintelligible) There's 6 new employees so far.
Okay. Well, good.
All those in favor, signify by saying aye? Aye. Nays? Motion passed.
There's one last agenda item before we move for Executive Session. There's the loose leaf papers,
agenda item E1. Just to back up a step, every time we have something to do
with the FAA projects, we have an agreement with the FAA, we have an agreement New York State DOT,
we'll have an agreement with an engineer, and we'll have an agreement with the party that actually does
the construction. What you're looking at here, is the New York State DOT portion of the
project. And, this is for the replacement of the snow removal equipment, the snow blower
and plow, it's PIN 7903.94, and, the DOT
portion on this is $10,375.
That's the DOT's 2.5%. I make the motion to approve it.
Is that what you want to do? Yes. I'll second that. Second, Ramona. A comment that I have,
you know, we're talking 9 months before this...we receive this piece of equipment Right, Steve?
Yeah. 9 months. What is our plan to have, with the existing
snow blower? Yeah, that's a...we'd have to discuss that, because,
you know, it could come out of this Winter, and be just fine. But, I know Fred has seen it in action.
And, when we...sometimes when we...if there was a major part to go on it, if we kept it,
you know, it would really decrease the value. Maybe it's time to surplus it, when it's
actually...because parts are so hard to find with that. There is no parts for it anymore. Yeah, and they're expensive.
And, we've had to have parts made just to keep going on that. So, I'm kind of leaning
toward let's surplus. Now, let me take it back a step. If we didn't have the new snow blower coming in, what would
what's your plan? What would've been your plan? Obviously to keep this one going the best you could, right? Yeah. All right.
So, my comment would be...I'm almost thinking of the...
...what do you have, for a back-up if something happens with your new one?
I don't say anything's going to happen, but do we have equipment? Well, snow blowing isn't required all the time.
There's a certain height...that...we use it more...
not periodically, we use it a lot, just because it makes plowing so much easier.
But, you know, we could let snow banks get up there a little bit more, but we try to keep everything down,
just to make it easy plowing there. But, that doesn't really answer your question. We'd probably have to go
out and rent something, that would either go on a loader, or a stand-alone.
You can get them through...there's an emergency state contract for snow blowers. Okay, so there's a
third part of the plan, it's you get a new one, you've got an old one, and the old one broke apart, at least you'd get another opportunity
to go lease, or...all right. So, that's for the friction reading that we have to have, right?
Yeah. Okay. DOT has quite a few of them blowers, and stuff. Yeah.
Now, in an emergency, I think they'd come and help. Right. You know, what would make sense to me, is if we get
through this, and it's still in good shape, get the most money out of that we can, and have that money set aside,
in case something happens, to pay for a rental. Yeah. It's just common sense.
(cross talk - laughter - unintelligible) Put it in the parts lot. Yeah. It has it sitting right.
Well, I think it's a good point to hear, what Steve...said. (cross talk - laughter - unintelligible) Is...
trade it while it's worth anything, but the other part is, if it's worth something, is it worth the value to keep it?
As a back-up plan. Yeah. And, now all of the sudden I hear what you're saying, and everybody else saying is,
there are other things to do if this...to help us out and get through it. All of the sudden you say, all right, I'm in an emergency,
I mean, we may get a big dump of snow, I don't know exactly what will happen. I know you
thought this process out, and I guess that's what I'm really getting at. Well, Steve said it well, as far as that would make sense if we
sell it, put that money aside, and if we need it as a back-up for some kind of thing, then we could go down...
and trade parts on that piece of equipment anytime. Yeah. 61 degrees, Winter's over! (laughter)
All right. All those in favor?
Aye. Nays? Motion passed. Mr. Chairman,
that concludes the regular business, but there is a need for Executive Session, based on...
matters leading to the sale of real property, and...
contract negotiations with the...bridge inspection report.
It should've been in your... in your thing. Let me make sure of that.
How do you find these guys, Steve? Pretty good to work with? Oh, yeah. We've worked with them
so long that, they know how we work. And, they've been real good, real helpful.
What's that? I think there's a question. Will there be any action?
Not at this meeting. No.
I'll need a motion to go into Executive Session. I'll move it. Second?
Second. Second, Don. All those in favor, signify by saying aye? Aye. You're going to get a reputation,
Sam. What's that? That's the shortest board meeting I've seen! (laughter) How did we ever go for 8 hours one day? Yeah. (laughter)