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Her followers see Her as a great spiritual leader
capable of curing all ills, even cancer.
Well these are the sort of claims we've probably heard before
from many so called gurus
but for Her fast expanding group of disciples
Mataji Nirmala Devi is different.
Tonight She brings Her message to a public meeting at Exeter
Mataji, the world of healing and gurus is
full of frauds and charlatans.
Do you accept that many people might be skeptical
about your claims. Of course they should be. Why they are not I don't understand
You see, you must use your brains
and reach right conclusions.
Why are you seeking, what are you seeking
and whom are you going to.
Those people who charge you money
and live like parasites on you
cannot be your gurus.
You see they are people without any self-respect.
You don't charge any money at all?
Not at all. I mean how can you charge money for this?
This is Love, Love of God. How can I charge money for that?
It's claimed that even viewers [WHO KNEW NOTHING OF THIS]
just by looking at your picture on the television screen
can receive some sort of physical manifestation
of Your power. Now how does that work? Yes
By, just if they put their hands towards Me like this even now
they can feel a cool breeze flowing into their hands.
So many might feel, as they felt it in Hong-Kong
but if you are complicated people
it's takes some time
but normally people are simple and they get it
the cool breeze just starts flowing into their hands
and that is the breeze of the Holy Ghost.
Just by holding their hands to the screen at the moment.
Just like this. Just like that, yes.
Well, Your message is self-awareness, self-realism.
I mean what exactly does that mean?
Self is the reflection of God Almighty in our, in the heart.
But it resides on top of your head
and what is self-relaization in ordinary words
you can say the real baptism
is the real baptism
means what happens that your Spirits
enters into your awareness
into your conscious mind
into your central nervous system
so that you start feeling the awareness of the Spirit
which is flowing through you as energy.
This is the energy of the all pervading power of God
I'm sure many people must
feel the [INNENGUM?] selfs perfectly well already
without any extra power required.
This is a self opinionated thing
but there is a way to find out, if you know your self
and you must know what are the centres catching in you
what are the centres are catching in another person
It is the becoming that is important.
It's not a mental projection that I'm such and such.
Supposing I say I'm the governor of some place.
Do I become?
No. I must have the powers.
You can actually look at another person
and say what is wrong with that person or feel what is wrong with that person.
Yes I can. I can look at the person and say
but others those who are Sahaja Yogis
can just feel it on their finger tips.
But we talk another language
we don't say you have cancer, because that's not good to say
or what we say you are catching on this centre or that centre.
Supposing somebody is very egoistical
then we don't say you are egoistical, we say you are catching on Agnya
so he doesn't feel hurt, you know.
But having identified the problems, you can also cure them as well.
Yes. If we identify the problems
we also know how to cure them.
What happened 20 years ago
before gurus even were heard of in the Western world.
We seemed to survive perfectly without them.
You see, this is the time of resurrection.
This is the time of Last Judgement
is being pointed out by your great poet
William Blake, who said
that a new category of human beings
he called them Men of God will be born on this earth
and they will become prophets and they will have powers
to make others prophets.
Of course there has been prophecy also in India
thousands of years back
that in, this work will start in 1970
and that many people will get their realization
is already announced
and now we are in that time.
Yeah, that the time has come
that's why these people have taken birth
and there are many children who are born-realized
and you do not know what they are
because they've these vibrations and they are different people
Mataji, thank you very much indeed Thank you