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CHOKING MUTUALLY WITH THE HANDS
AROUND THE THROAT.
>> LET'S BREAK OUT THE JUSTICE
SQUAD.
THEY'RE BACK WITH US.
JEFF GOLD, JANET JOHNSON.
WOW, THERE'S SO MUCH HERE.
BUZZ LET'S GET TO THE BASICS.
WHAT'S GOING ON HERE, THIS
LIFESTYLE, BONDAGE, DISCIPLINE,
S & M, BOB'S DUNGEON, SO ON, SO
FORTH.
BUT THE QUESTION, I'LL START
WITH YOU, JEFF, IS THIS MISTRESS
RACHEL, IS SHE MOTIVE FOR
***?
HE WANTED TO HAVE A LIFE WITH
HER AND HE WANTED HIS WIFE OUT
OF THE WAY?
>> IT SEEMS FIRST OF ALL THAT HE
GOT INTO THIS LIFESTYLE AND HIS
WIFE WANTED NOTHING TO DO WITH
IT.
SO WHETHER IT'S JUST THIS
MISTRESS OR THE LIFESTYLE THAT
HE WANTED, IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO
SAY.
HE WAS A BIG FLIRT, BUT ON THE
OTHER HAND, THEY SAY HE COULDN'T
GET IT UP.
>> OH, BOY.
>> WHO KNOWS ABOUT THIS GUY?
WHAT WE KNOW IS THAT HE WANTED
THIS CRAZY DUNGEON, MASTER/SLAVE
THING AND THE WIFE DIDN'T.
SHE WAS OUT OF THE WAY
CONVENIENTLY.
>> OKAY.
WE HAVE TO WATCH THE BOUNDARIES
HERE WITH JEFF GOLD.
>> AFTER JODI ARIAS, EVERYTHING
IS TAME.
>> YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT.
THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
AND ON THAT NOTE, LET'S GO
THERE.
WHEN YOU GET FROM PREVIOUS
TESTIMONY, JANET, THAT HE AND
HIS WIFE DID NOT HAVE SEX.
THE WIFE EMASCULATED HIM.
DID NOT TREAT HIM WITH RESPECT.
DOES THAT ADD TO THE
PROSECUTION'S CASE, THAT BOB
BASHARA WAS GETTING TO THE POINT
WHERE HE HATED HIS WIFE AND
WANTED HER DEAD?
>> YEAH.
HE WAS HAVING A MISTRESS.
PLENTY OF GUYS HAVE MISTRESSES
AND DON'T KILL THEIR WIVES.
HE DID TELL THE MISTRESS
ALLEGEDLY THAT HE WAS A WIDOW,
WHICH IS NOT NECESSARILY NORMAL.
THEN HE SAID HE WAS GETTING A
DIVORCE AND THEN HE SAID HE WAS
GETTING A VORCE.
HE DEFINITELY HAS A MOTIVE FOR
***.
THEY SET IT UP TO LOOK PRETTY
GOOD.
I THINK THAT THERE'S MOTIVE FOR
HIM TO DO IT.
AND QUITE FRANKLY, A LOT OF GUYS
WHO ARE HAVING AFFAIRS SAY, MY
WIFE DOESN'T UNDERSTAND ME, MY
WIFE DOESN'T HAVE SEX WITH ME.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS A MOTIVE
OR IF THAT'S JUST TYPICAL OF A
GUY HAVING AN AFFAIR WITH HIS
LOVER.
>> OKAY.
AND THAT'S A GREAT POINT.
PEOPLE HAVE CHEATED ON EACH
OTHER FOR YEARS AND THEY
DON'T -- EVERYBODY DOESN'T KILL
EVERYBODY OVER THIS.
JEFF, TO YOU, FROM THE TESTIMONY
YOU'RE LISTENING, WHAT SAYS
MOTIVE?
HE WANTED HER DEAD?
IT WASN'T ENOUGH.
HE WASN'T JUST GOING TO CONTINUE
ON WITH BOB'S DUNGEON AND HIS
MISTRESS RACHEL.
HE WANTED A LIFE WITH THIS
WOMAN.
PART OF IT COULD BE THE FUTURE,
RIGHT?
THAT HE WAS TRYING TO RECRUIT
SOME WOMAN FROM OREGON TO BE THE
THIRD MEMBER OF HIS NEW LIFE?
>> WE CAN ALWAYS SPECULATE.
IT'S POSSIBLE THE WIFE KNEW
SOMETHING THAT HE DIDN'T WANT
OTHER PEOPLE TO KNOW AS WELL.
THAT'S JUST PURE SPECULATION.
IT SEEMS FAIRLY CLEAR THAT HE
HAD ASKED SOMEBODY QUESTIONS
ABOUT KILLING HIS WIFE AND THEN
SHE ENDS UP DEAD.
SO THERE'S A GOOD CASE AGAINST
HIM, REGARDLESS OF MOTIVE, WHICH
WE HAVE TO REMIND THE VIEWERS IS
NOT SOMETHING THAT THE STATE HAS
TO PROVE.
THE STATE PROVES INTENT, MEANING
THAT YOU WANTED HER DEAD, NOT
WHY YOU WANTED HER DEAD.
THAT'S SOMETHING NICE TO HAVE.
IT HELPS THE STATE.
IT ALLOWS A JURY TO UNDERSTAND A
CASE.
BUT THEY DON'T NEED A MOTIVE.
>> BUT THEY KIND OF DO, THOUGH,
JEFF, DON'T THEY?
THEY WANT TO HAVE SOMETHING TO
HANG THEIR HAT ON SO THEY CAN
BELIEVE THE UNBELIEVABLE ABOUT A
HUSBAND AND WIFE.
>> IT HELPS.
EVERY PROSECUTOR LIKES TO
EXPLAIN THE WHYS BUT EVERY
PROSECUTOR WANTS TO MAKE SURE
THE JUDGE THAT HE EXPLAINS TO A
JURY THEY DON'T NEED TO PROVE
THE WHY.
JUST THAT HE DID.
>> AND THAT GETS YOU INTO, OKAY,
TO JANET'S POINT, WHY COULDN'T
HE JUST CONTINUE WITH THE
ALTERNATIVE LIFESTYLE BEHIND
CLOSED DOORS LITERALLY?
KEEP HIS WIFE, HAD CHILDREN, SO
ON, SO FORTH.
BUT YOU WANT TO HEAR, WHY DID
YOU HAVE TO KILL HER?
WHY DID JANE HAVE TO BE KNOCKED
OFF FOR YOU TO CONTINUE ON WITH
RACHEL AND WHOEVER ELSE?
WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE ON --
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