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ALL, WHAT'S YOUR THEORY ABOUT
WHAT HAPPENED TO THIS PLANE?
GIVE ME A HOLLER,
1-877-JVM-SAYS.
1-877-586-7297.
STRAIGHT OUT TO "THE LION'S
DEN."
WE'LL TALK TO AN AVIATION EXPERT
IN JUST A SECOND.
BUT FIRST, I'LL START WITH ADAM.
WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THIS
CONSPIRACY THEORY THAT THIS
PLANE WAS HIJACKED, LANDED
SOMEWHE SAFELY, AND IS THEN
GOING TO BE REPURPOSED AND TAKEN
OFF INTO THE SKY AS SOME SORT OF
WEAPONS DELIVERY SYSTEM
TARGETING MAYBE A MAJOR AMERICAN
CITY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT?
>> YOU HAVE TO GIVE THIS
CREDENCE.
BECAUSE IN THIS DAY AND AGE, WE
COULD TRACK ALMOST ANYTHING.
YOU CAN LOOK FROM SPACE AND SEE
A LICENSE PLATE.
WE TRACK ASTEROIDS, WE TRACK
ALMOST ANYTHING IN THE AIR TO
PERFECTION.
HOW DO WE LOSE AN AIRPLANE?
YOU HAVE TO BE WORRIED THAT THIS
TERRORIST THAT MIGHT HAVE TAKEN
OVER THIS PLANE CAN REFUEL IT,
WHERE IT CAN TRAVEL ALMOST
ANYWHERE.
I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, ISRAEL
IS ON THE HIGHEST ALERT THEY CAN
BE ON WITH THIS EXACT
POSSIBILITY.
SO WHAT DO WE DO IF WE SEE IT
COMING TOWARD THE U.S.?
ARE WE GOING TO TAKE THE CHANCE
AND LET THIS PLANE COME AND LAND
AND CRASH SOMEWHERE, POSSIBLY
WITH A NUKE ONBOARD?
WE'VE GOT TO BE REALLY PREPARE
FOR THIS.
>> LET ME SAY THIS.
THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE
WHO HEAR THIS THEORY AND SAY,
THAT'S CRAZY.
THAT'S FAR-FETCHED.
YOU KNOW WHAT?
I HOPE IT'S OUT OF THE REALM OF
POSSIBILITY.
BUT WE'VE GOT TO REMEMBER 9/11.
BEFORE 9/11, THE IDEA OF A
COORDINATED TERRORIST ATTACK
USING FOUR HIJACKED COMMERCIAL
PASSENGER JETS DIRECTED AT FOUR
DIFFERENT FAMOUS AMERICAN
TARGETS, I'M CONSIDERING TOWER
ONE AND TWO AS TWO DIFFERENT
TARGETS, IT WOULD HAVE NEVER
ENTERED OUR MINDS EXCEPT AS A
MOVIE SCRIPT.
I'VE GOT TO GO TO LISA LOCKWOOD,
BEFORE WE GET TO OUR EXPERT AND
TELL YOU, DO YOU THINK THIS IS
SO CRAZY?
OR IS THIS SOMETHING WE'VE
REALLY GOT TO CONSIDER?
>> OH, I ACTUALLY THINK THE
GOVERNMENT HAS THOUGHT ABOUT
THIS.
AND LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT
NATIONAL GOVERNMENTAL
CONTINGENCY PLANS.
IF AN AIRCRAFT COMES INTO RADAR
ZONE, AND IT'S NOT AUTHORIZED,
THERE'S NO TRANSPONDER, MOST
GOVERNMENTS ARE TRAINED TO TAKE
OUT THAT AIRCRAFT.
SOME OF THEM WILL HAVE NATIONAL
SECURITY GO OUT THERE, AND TRY
TO GUIDE IT INTO ANOTHER AREA.
BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE,
BECAUSE OF THE FACT IT'S BEEN
MISSING, I BELIEVE IF IT SHOWS
UP, IT WILL BE TAKEN OUT.
>> LISTEN, THERE ARE SO MANY
PEOPLE SERVIE SEARCHING FOR THI
PLANE RIGHT NOW.
THEY SAY IF IT CRASHED THERE
WOULD HAVE TO BE DEBRIS
SOMEWHERE.
LISTEN TO THIS.
>> MOST OF THE AIRCRAFT, THERE
WOULD BE PARTS OF THE AIRCRAFT
THAT WOULD FLOAT.
WHETHER NOW, OR IN A SHORT
PERIOD OF TIME FROM NOW.
I THINK YOU'LL SEE SOME DEBRIS
COMING TO THE SURFACE WITH
EITHER A SERIAL NUMBER, OR
PAINT.
YOU'D BE ABLE TO DETERMINE IT
WAS THIS AIRCRAFT.
>> NOTED AVIATION EXPERT JIM
HILLMAN WITH US TONIGHT.
JIM, HERE'S THE THING.
11 DAYS OF SEARCHING AND NADA.
DO YOU THINK IT'S POSSIBLE
HIJACKERS COULD HAVE LANDED THIS
PLANE SOMEWHERE, AND FOUND A
RUNWAY THAT JUST OFF THE BEATEN
PATH, THAT NOBODY SEEMS TO KNOW
ABOUT, IS THAT A POSSIBILITY?
>> YES, IT'S A POSSIBILITY.
AND MOST PEOPLE SAY REMOTE.
BUT SO IS ALMOST EVERYTHING ELSE
WE'VE HEARD IN TERMS OF
SCENARIOS.
THEY'RE ALL REMOTE.
THIS WHOLE THING IS SO BIZARRE,
UNTIL WHO CAN SAY WHAT MAKES
GOOD COMMON SENSE AND WHAT
DOESN'T.
>> I AGREE WITH YOU.
MANY YEARS AGO I WAS IN A SMALL
PLANE, A PROP JOB, ACTUALLY, I
THINK IT WAS AN AMPHIBIAN, AND
SOMEONE WAS TAKING ME TO THE
UPPER CAPTIVEA ISLAND.
I SAID, WHERE IS THE RUNWAY?
WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
IT WAS A JOKE HE PLAYED ON ME.
AND JIM, IT WAS A RUNWAY.
BUT YOU COULDN'T SEE IT FROM THE
AIR.
IT WAS DISGUISED, LIKE A GRASSY
RUNWAY AND YOU COULDN'T REALLY
TELL IT WAS A RUNWAY.
I KNOW THIS IS NOT A SMALL PROP
JOB, BUT COULD SOMETHING LIKE
THAT HAVE HAPPENED?
>> THERE ARE SO MANY ABANDONED
AIRFIELDS THROUGHOUT THAT AREA,
FROM WORLD WAR II, AND
AFTERWARDS.
IT COULD FIND A PLACE TO GO.
LOOK, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE TWO OR
THREE APPROACHES TO THIS.
ONE SAYS THAT THIS WAS A
WELL-PLANNED, WELL THOUGHT-OUT,
WELL-PRACTICED, VERY SKILLFULLY
CARRIED OUT SITUATION.
AND IT WAS A PLAN FROM THE VERY
BEGINNING, BEFORE THEY EVEN TOOK
OFF.
ANOTHER PLAN HAS AN APPROACH
WHERE IT SAYS, NO, THERE WAS
SOMETHING CATASTROPHIC THAT
HAPPENED TO CREATE ALL THESE
THINGS THAT WE ARE TALKING
ABOUT.
WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO KNOW A
LITTLE BIT MORE.
AND WE'VE BEEN GETTING SOME VERY
BAD INFORMATION ALL ALONG
THROUGHOUT THIS INVESTIGATION.
>> I AGREE.
YOU'VE GOT TO WONDER, I'VE HEARD
SO MUCH ABOUT THE PILOT AND
CO-PILOT, I'M WONDERING ABOUT
THE FLIGHT ATTENDANTS.
IF ANYBODY HAS ACCESS TO THAT
PLANE AFTER THE PILOT AND
CO-PILOT, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE
COCKPIT, IT'S THE FLIGHT
ATTENDANTS.
I FLY A LOT, I SEE THAT, YES,
THE DOORS ARE MORE REINFORCED
AFTER 9/11, PRESUMABLY ALSO ON
THIS AIRLINE, I WOULD LIKE TO
DOUBLE-CHECK THAT, BUT THESE
PILOTS COME OUT TO GO TO THE
BATHROOM, AND CHAT WITH THE
FLIGHT ATTENDANTS.
I'VE SEEN IT HAPPEN MYSELF WITH
MY OWN EYES.
SO THEY KNOW, THEY WOULD HAVE
THE OPPORTUNITY PERHAPS TO GET
INSIDE THAT COCKPIT.
ON LONG FLIGHTS THESE PILOTS DO
GO OUT AND USE THE BATHROOM.
LET'S GO TO THE PHONE LINES.
COFFEY, D.C., WHAT'S YOUR
THEORY?
WHAT'S YOUR THEORY, DEAR?
>> Caller: I'M SORRY, WHAT DID
YOU SAY?
>> WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO TELL
US TONIGHT?
WE'RE LIVE ON THE AIR.
>> Caller: OH, YEAH, I'M SORRY.
>> NO PROBLEM.
>> Caller: I WANTED TO TELL YOU
THAT, BY THE WAY, JANE
VELEZ-MITCHELL, I LOVE YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>> Caller: I THINK THEY GOT
SWALLOWED BY A VORTEX.
>> SWALLOWED BY A VORTEX?
WELL, THERE ARE OUTLANDISH
CONSPIRACY THEORIES.
THERE'S THE BERMUDA TRIANGLE
THEORY.
THE ALIEN ABDUCTION THEORY.
THE REASON WHY THIS CAUGHT MY
EYE, KIMBERLY PRIEST JOHNSON,
CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY, IS
THIS IS THE FIRST THEORY THAT IS
SCARY AND OMINOUS, BUT IS NOT
RIDICULOUS.
IT'S NOT A VORTEX THEORY, NO
OFFENSE TO -- I HOPE COFFEE FROM
D.C. KEEPS WATCHING, BUT NOT
JUST SWALLOWED BY THE VORTEX,
BERMUDA TRIANGLE, TAKEN BY
ALIENS, THIS IS AN ACTUAL
SCENARIO.
AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO OPEN
OUR MINDS TO CRAZY POSSIBILITIES
FOR OUR OWN DEFENSE.
BECAUSE BEFORE 9/11, IF I HAD
SAID T Y THREE DAYS BEFORE
9/11, SOMETHING LIKE THAT'S
GOING TO HAPPEN, FOUR HIJACKED
PLANES, WITH SOMETHING LIKE 19
HIJACKERS TAKING COMMERCIAL JETS
INTO THE WORLD TRADE CENTER 1
AND 2, AND INTO THE PENTAGON,
AND THEN AIMING FOR ANOTHER
LOCATION IN WASHINGTON, D.C.,
YOU PROBABLY WOULD HAVE CALLED
ME CRAZY, RIGHT?
>> YES, I WOULD HAVE.
LOOK, THIS IS THE ERA WE LIVE
IN.
THIS IS A PLAUSIBLE THEORY THAT
WE SHOULD TAKE SERIOUSLY.
AND I AGREE WITH LISA, I THINK
THAT OUR DEFENSE AND SECURITY
DIVISIONS NOT ONLY IN THE U.S.,
BUT AROUND THE WORLD ARE DOING
JUST THAT.
WE HAVE TO HAVE A PLAN, YOU
KNOW, IN THE EVENT THIS DID
HAPPEN.
I CAN VERY HONESTLY SEE
TERRORISTS USING THIS PLANE TO
EITHER DESTROY THE ACTUAL
PASSENGERS, OR EVEN WORSE, A LOT
MORE PEOPLE.
>> IF THIS PLANE STILL DOES
EXIST, WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN WHEN
IT GOES BACK UP IN THE AIR, IF
IT EVER GOES BACK UP IN THE AIR,
IF WE'RE CONFRONTED BY THAT
PLANE?
SHOULD WE SHOOT IT DOWN?
SHOULD WE ASK, WHO'S ONBOARD?
ARE SOME OF THE INNOCENT PEOPLE
LAST ON THAT PLANE STILL
ONBOARD?
STAY RIGHT THERE.
THIS IS A SCARY CONSPIRACY
THEORY THAT SHOULD MAKE US ALL
THINK.