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Erik: Where did you learn your work ethic?
Matt: From fear. I think I'm a pretty lazy person generally, but, like, I'll work hard
enough so that I don't suck at something. Or be, you know, I don't wanna—Like, I take
pride in what I put out there or what I'm doing or how—you know, what I'm creating,
and I think you realize that work is what produces good results in those areas and so
I think it's just more the motivation to do good stuff and to—and recognizing that you
got to work in order to do that, as opposed to like to being a really industrious person,
because, you know, if I can just veg out on the couch and, you know, watch a season of
Breaking Bad in a row, I'll do it, you know?
Erik: Have you been caught before in that fear didn't quite kick in and the performance
then didn't meet expectations and that resulted in anger?
Matt: You know, if you have one bad show or a good show, I don't take that like too seriously
but if it's like over a stretch of time where I feel like I'm not doing as well as I could
be doing, yeah, a lot of times I'll look at it and be like, "Well, have I been working
hard enough lately and--" or I'll look at someone else who's doing well and succeeding
and be like, "Alright, well, is that person working harder than me?" Because then, you
know, I have to factor that in before I have any sort of feelings of bitterness or jealousy
or whatever else, you know, might go along with seeing someone who's doing well, you
have to like look at yourself and be like, "Okay, well, if that person's working harder
than you, maybe they deserve it more than you, so..." I think—maybe tied in with that
a little bit, like technology I think is sometimes a dangerous thing, like the idea of being
wired in all the time, that's when I sometimes feel like I'm not getting as much work done
as I could is like you know I'll just wind up in some, you know, rabbit hole of checking
Twitter or Facebook or looking online or watching Youtube clips or something then I'll be like,
"Oh, where did those last, you know, 3 hours go?" And you know I think that's, to me, like
a new modern threat to productivity of being, like, you know, just sort of falling into
one of those holes and then, you know, like, I know it's easy to just sort of passively
consume things that other people are making as opposed to making your own stuff.