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a couple of different stories
coming together of maybe maybe not labeled to a reality check on this
please
three young women who
verbally suggestion cleveland uh... apparently having been
kidnapped for ten years
uh... eliza smart coming out yesterday and saying that one of the reasons that
she didn't
cry out for help when she was walking down the street with the manhood
uh... e g kidnapped and *** her
was because she had been tried and action solicitation cation class that
that women are like chewing gum and that after the that no man would want her
after she had been
trudy she'd been used
but nobody likes to truman and then
and this is this whole
uh... dress code thing and
and this phenomenon of swatch amy knight when i saw this story yesterday
and was talking with
might with louise with my wife who also or began one of our producers and
the producer pro craft
and i've read at the big cheese producer
i mean we've
braised the public
three kids to girls
talking about is this
are we looking at the new american televangelist in is this spike
patriarchy on parade is this misogyny
uh... starting creep around the edges of our culture or is this just you know
schools trying to have some sort of
uh... reasonable order
and all i think that our in and i'm going to get remaining gross structures
uh... app
endowments heroes is the deputy managing editor of the progress which were first
on the story
happy that it's title house sloshing has been written into school dress codes
across the country
and uh... uh... the former press assistant to congresswoman debbie
wasserman schultz
and he was walking the program
nothing he's in trenton mi thanks for joining us
they personal you know i just threw out a whole bunch of stuff i a m yet you are
applying ellis
strings are whatever
or choice our little
very specific question
well i mean i think that you know i think that the
you can hear you had a bunch of notes that i think make i've sensed together
obviously there's a very big difference between
uh... a woman being kidnapped in cleveland and and uh... score telling
echo what not to wear uh...
but they do think that they're is an interesting connection here uh... in
terms of just
women's bodies their ownership over their own bodies and
people telling them what not to do and what to do with their bodies in
and and sort of putting the onus on a woman to make the choices that
will make her most safe i think that's a lot of this comes down to u_n_
specifically when you look at on
just cuz
you're talking about sort of how women are told that what they where and how
they present themselves
sort of *** as has them or g *** as is them and therefore makes them a
target or not
yeah and isn't that the central message of the taliban i mean by that i am not
uh... i don't mean this to be hyperbolic acts
i have actually
talked with uh... fed action and i i think was merit maybe his journey scale
i there was somebody who had been a reporter in in the middle east for a
number of years has done a lot of time over there
who knew about your taliban guys and he said you know all thing is you know the
whole rationale is if women show any parts of their body than men will
they'll run out of control in and up yell raping or whatever and
and therefore the word that the completely cover themselves up in
at the end result of that logic is the book uh... are we going down that road
well uh... in i dot
necessarily feel comfortable comparing
school principals that how they act like
uh... i will i will
time but nothing that i think you know in in in stems from the same thing which
is that we have a society a patriarchal society which is told
women that they are basically
uh... property of men or they are for men's pleasure and therefore that they
should be told what to do based on
how many will react
uh... you know you can see it in
in cases like this juvenile case of young girl was *** allies tube may
have been convicted of of raping her um...
or she was told she was drunk or she was told that she didn't act correctly who
she was told that she was implying it's not saying that she wanted to have sex
with them
uh... based on her outfitter based on the fact that she had been drinking
uh... and a lot of times that so we see
women are told men will do these things and it's your responsibility to react as
opposed to when you talk about men in the crimes they commit there told you
have the agency over yourself you make these decisions
you have to be responsible for your actions
or
they're told
you can sit there and do what you will and make sure there are no distractions
in your life and when we look at
the way that women are treated
they're basically told always the on the defensive whereas mentor told always be
on the offenses uh... it plays out in the workplace in the way that when
they're supposed to be in the workplace allied plays out in
the football field i think it's one of the places where we see a nun and and
certainly agree that investment style we don't have just cuz
for men like we have for women and a lot of that is because women
are told to wear certain things that make them look appealing to men and men
are really told the same
i want to make themselves appealing to women
this there's been uh... you know a lot of um...
uh...
everybody learns what martin luther king everybody learns about the civil rights
movement and you had women were considered the property of their
husbands up until the trial the last century
i mean there were laws on the books in states
as late as nineteen hundred that said that if a woman's husband died that a
male executor would be appointed he would get one thirty first st he would
decide what religion or by home
her children were raised
and you know that bed and the only courts that she could do anything in
were courts the resp civic lisa furry retarded people
or for children
and uh... you know where and others should have a male uh... representative
at court
uh... in a very real way aren't women's thereof the last of the group
of the various minority groups in and which is kinda weird to say cuz when
there are a majority in
society
to be
liberated and and i use that word advisedly realizing that even you know
now that this situation
hiking uh... one of the areas where we can look at how women are still very
much consider property by is abortion access
uh... well
mandate sitting there in state houses across the country and then capitol hill
in the united states
nation you know that
the capital here went on
are making decisions i will when we can get there telling women that they can
have an abortion at a certain
what date are they can't get enough there that when
there's a fetal heartbeat suddenly it becomes
irresponsible for a woman to make the choice about what's right for her
and it has nothing to do with the woman's life and there is very very
little female input
uh... linux seventeen women
the senate is somehow groundbreaking uh...
it's it's not as though we have
actual can in the morning and i think lead
networking
buddy there there's a we have a limited time and i'm forgive my interruption
burger there's uh... would be douglas lot shameem
uh... so uh... it's a ten minute industry neon is just sort of prep into
the mainstream backpack is a really valuable one
because what we do is when we talk about how women dress we talk about them being
slots as though
by wearing a certain finger inviting that *** attraction heathens actually
not linked we're going to have the same word for mentors there's no word
equivalent of ***
for what a man can do you were stairway are
uh... both when we talk about women we talked about
how they will
uh... behave and how that behavior
you know basically is the same as it inviting a *** attraction so we have
a consensus
along a camera consent in the same way to *** interaction because we assume
that she's consented by wearing a low-cut
you know plows on
a lot of that day
uh... translates into social interactions where you have someone
saying that girls shouldn't be trusted because she's wearing his work record
sign in the minute we have left when we do about this when we go with this
i think we just need to get a chance to talk to one and we need to say that you
can make your own choices that what you wear and what you do with your body and
how you behaved and those things are not a man's to control or dekhti or uh...
you know comment on even it's not it's not the place of the principal tuesday
your outfit looks too sweaty uh... yet i would prefer if my school principal
never set something like that to me because i would hope that is not
thinking about that i can here
the which is another indication of this this whole
um... if bringing rose structure burberry managing editor of in progress
but the progress of the personal effectiveness brilliant piece
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