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uh... ron called me is on the line with a seasoned icon in the legal community
in new york and and frankly around the country
who'll be law is the website k_g_b_ why law dot com and uh... rod welcome to the
program well thank you got it great to hear you and and of course you're
indicted back-to-back shows a long ago and far away where and when air america
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own ls everybody would not occur in talk show host
is a former talk show
stuff of course i think so and everything everybody who isn't
and maybe a future one specificity that led to believe you instead of putting us
in this nation linda stouffer that's one to the uh... declining
places left this this
cigs uh...
this has kind of gone by role in this is uh... jacobs fire at this time
he wanted to get asylum
his son
that sentence i want to say about the cause of this is a little and
magistead million
hasn't yet
so it is so
year in new york this this took place in new york and it was you know when was
this where was this what was going on describes was what we just heard okay we
go back out to over fourteen which was a very important day in this in prodi park
occupy wall street movement because
that would put a bit the you ought to be pleased department
was going to clear out the park
force everybody out of sensibly for planning purposes but they work in a
while people back in with their tents and sleeping bags repetitive but we have
the activation
at the last minute
uh... city officials prevailed on the private owner of the park in said please
don't do this
it's a really big mistake and the owners of the park said okay fine we won't do
it so it's seven o'clock in the morning they called off the planned objection
thousands and thousands of people are going down to jakarta you're sort of
uh...
uh... a nonviolent civil disobedience applabs
uh... chua solidarity
right in and instead of like one that came what they've been lost
uh... there was a celebratory mood as to what had been one fiat
mission continues
uh... so there was a march about the
thirty in the morning
and and not far from chicago
area but in the police were not happy
uh... they could come shoes for combat you know they expected they were going
to be clean out arresting and probably possibly
thousands and thousands of protesters and this was going to be their moment
were found putting into this so that they were
they were to use them or they should have been
uh... and it took a more while that to calm down and in the course of uh...
these celebratory demonstration people walking the streets
and thus
says it's a little school jihad probably totally illegal it's it's it also
occupied you know papa ki pedestrian and vehicular traffic although you know the
truth is there was no particular traffic at the point
uh... with close down the street in anticipation of the march so
you know website the cosmic question can you block traffic when there is no crap
but sees as the city subplot traffic 'cause they think you're going to block
traffic you know we can sort of put that meditation aside
ours is and saw it
successfully system then the recovery
uh... and and this motorist that the police scooters started trying to
disperse the crowd in the street and you don't read this person to be with the
police scooter
you knock them down
look at them
i mean it's not really a great dispersal technique
up it was pretty effective
uh... and eventually the uh... the march just sort of dissolved and few weeks
rivera pete reagan's thirty seven years old
uh... on uh... gay-rights activist eight activist uh...
uh... h_i_v_-positive living on social assistance
and you know it involved a lot of advocacy groups you know he he's not
some props two-parent
very much
you know part of the the real life
ninety nine percent you know he's close
seventeen-year
the trust fund a vision impaired out yeah
at that term is caught on yet that that particular incident and uh... you know
he's not one of them in effect very few of the act that wall street
folks but i've met are
he's walking and deputy inspector shaadi kar doonga
that what deputy inspector
is a very high-ranking police official he wears a white shirt
but in the military he's you know the equivalent of
upon nature if you will well so you know this is not some
rookie kid this is
uh... up commander who has no business
being in the middle of this to begin with
he should be in some mobile command post directing it
uh... he grabs
few weeks uh... applied the arm
and tells them
get on the sidewalk
healy turns around and see this in the video in the a few weeks it sort of
flamboyantly day at a reasonable on
you know he's european had very much a queen looked at him up
and and you could tell that felix just turned around looked at him
which such butter contempt and disdain and says you know business sidewalk to
get out into
that little sidewalk uh...
and and at that moment to return to walk away cardona wraps them
spin him around
and in slow motion we can watch cartoons this
going back to elbow coz beckham who
uh... right book takes a few weeks right down
one punch
on video
samosas punches in the pit
you know so hard to keep taking them acted knocked out of the reporters hero
uh...
and long and
the video
when fired
it hours and hours after the video when part
get inspector cardona
then filed a complaint against felix
claiming they feel weak attempted to elbow cardona in the face
you know defending myself he picked up the first right
and the videos in short because the camera was not
well you know banks to do it over the world appeared on the people and
high-tech wizards is and when we got a few hours of actually being made but i
would be to video appear the children born countering again show the cardona
was completely lying about everything could have happened
at this point the district attorney's office in new york county is actually
conducting a criminal investigation
of deputy inspector cardona it turns out
this was
berard todd
in a month
that he had physically up salted occupy wall street protesters
while so or one earlier one september twenty first is is not a website now the
new york times blog actually uh... a put it on the website
and you can see this same park
where he takes out another demonstrator
three weeks earlier since it this is a guy who is basically using his police
uniform
do what is your i walked up to somebody
and ended we would end up in jail facing simple assault charges right i picked up
first-time
we'd get tips we would be arrested charged with misdemeanor assault
probably released on bail
or even on our own recognizance if we have no criminal record
dutch second time we did it when you're out on bail whipping remanded
because you know the judge would say sorry rightward yes
saying they at yahoo
i'm not going to let you out
supplied we have just a minute left what's the resolution of this where is
this going right now we're only place that you can go in in a jobs end and
fairest decided at the mall order
is some apple crumble charges be brought against cardona anybody separated
from his pepper spray his badge and his cup yeah and many teens
says but he no longer has the immunity using mom and and and uh... you but
making that happen
but we're right i don't have the power to make it happen except the power of
persuasion but i'm cautiously optimistic
that eventually cardona walk at the same deal might you can't make it happen
because you're not a prosecutor who had only principal arson as i came out of
control
faction answer some who want to give me state power
palmitic so any charge with the with the though the city prosecutor what if they
can be met with the district attorney's office on monday i'm cautiously
optimistic
but at the very weak
no cardona land up on
probation sentimental management cannot do that because this is one of the you
know this is world from strength of the police department says is the bad apples
within the department in this half way
uh... you know i thought i wasn't there a consensus that this information in
some places complex jeff ron kuby laws dot com you can read all about ron
thanks for being with us