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I'm joined today once again by doctor Paul Cameron he is chairman of the
family research
Institute to give everybody a brief reminder about doctor Cameron back in
1983 the American Psychological Association did expel doctor Cameron
with non
for non-cooperation with an ethics investigation
doctor Cameron has told us previously on the show that he chose to leave the APA
although the APA contends that he left after the event investigation started
it which is against their policies your latest statements doctor Cameron
are approval love the Ugandan anti-gay laws which
prescribed life in prison for homosexuality in you
you actually would even go further and believe that in some cases the death
penalty for homosexuality would make sense
doctor Cameron give us a sense of how you came to this conclusion
I first one must understand
those who act on the homosexual desires our interests
I usually end up being her sights on society and parasites that are
very dangerous for society not only because they
take far more may contribute to society but
they particularly injured children and
many societies look injury homosexual molestation
rate past children on her decree the
not I'll for such I have no particular
on our my columns particular stance on s
except to say this is not an unreasonable
especially when you consider as we are looking right now
that news reports all across the world regarding
what those with homosexual interests and done jumper
somehow molested
right armrest hundreds 20 or more kids
I would say me once you go beyond two or three or four
that's pretty severe so let's take this step by step doctor Cameron because
you've already given us so much in and we do apologize for doctor cameras audio
we just were not sure where that noise is coming from but were unable to fix it
the first the first question I would have I guess is wat
in terms of the kinsey stuff much %uh Kinsey's work has already been
not so much discredited but just found to have been not not particularly
accurate
so tell me specifically what evidence do you have
that gay man it sounds like that's your focus
are pedophiles to a greater extent than the average man
adjusting for all other factors where do you get that idea
well first other number things to consider
for take girl surveys by homosexuals themselves
gays themselves openly gay unless the on my
on the game report
done by Carlisle on the
was a space anyway of both of them
is reported IOC order gays
admitted to having sex with children under the age of 16
and not somewhere in rehearsal movie
%uh a order you were third registered approval of such
*** act the Kinsey Institute in 1970 Salamone amber
our data server in San Francisco up kids
almost all the interviewers work and they came with a similar
your about 23 percent so not heroes doctor Cameron
it is strange to me that the these gays which you say are
header files and parasites and UV equated homosexuality to drug usage
you cross their own studies it seems a little hypocritical
why would you trust the same parasites that you
so so vehemently criticized you find a trustworthy at the same time
one can be I'm honest in regard to what one QA lacks
on sometime your site on goodness there are all kinds of people
who have a personal relationship sidon
and I'm some of them are incarcerated that doesn't mean we say
well because you're a crook we're not gonna believe you Hall
okay so you and i have talked about this many times hers another
I yeah it's worth it I don't want to get bogged down in this because you and i
have discussed this before this is exactly what you got kicked out of the
APA for which is misrepresenting people results so I'll
I really want to focus on the death penalty if I'm at the death penalty is
the big thing cuz that's really what we want it I we won't agree on the study so
let's focus on the death penalty
which is a little new how would you propose logistically
implementing the death penalty for homosexuality in other words
is it if you are caught on video engaged in certain
act is it if there is a report up such engagement
what is the method applying the death penalty is that lethal injection how do
you set it up logistically doctor camp
well first of all I'm not advocating
on some open to it depending on what the legislature
your own country saw but I'm asking your holiday if they did how would you do it
with get them out the nightcore Uganda
right years ago and I shared with her on some other information that you don't
wanna credit
yeah are thought it was credible they thought
a rat was great and the other people contributed
the president of the united states is lady on
many other ok all over the world 181
yeah I'm the legislature and the president but you gotta
look at the evidence I am NOT the law
which i think is a a reasonable hour response
to what is obviously threat
but doctor Cameron lot why is it I've asked the people from the Westboro
Baptist Church
I've asked others who are open to the idea of the homosexual death penalty I
have now asked you
how do you implement it logistically and nobody wants to answer it I think it
would be incredible if you were just able to give us a very simple
explanation
how does the death penalty for being gay work
there is no death penalty for being gay and no country in the world the 10
anyone who sells because you happens interests
you will be upset you but promised but doctor camera that's not a question I
asked
does your camera and doctor carole I'm asking Barrow not we're gonna
imprisonment others
I other parts of the world right now
they get away scot-free forget for a second doctor Cameron
anybody who is in the field have mental health and is that at all reputable
does not confer wat being in an adult
gay relationship with being a pedofile they are not
equivalent in any way so my question to you is what
if you were to implement the death penalty if you were
for an adult in a consensual relationship with another adult if the
same gender
how do you implement that death penalty if it's up the doctor Cameron
well isn't I'm not going to speculate on something
i'm saying a in current situation
Uganda you'll notice that the law specifies fourteen years imprisonment
if it's aggregating are I removal a homosexual activity
you have *** you know it and new
chance your partner getting
*** I just said that to me is a reasonable
penalty will but there are laws I but doctor Cameron doctor can
there are laws there are laws all over the world
all over the world irregardless
a whether it is it is a gay or or straight
*** encounter where the deliberate in
transmission of *** is punishable you don't need to go from that to what
Uganda is doing or to the death penalty
in all of these discussions I had with you you can weight issues that are
really unrelated
now you're I'm I would suggest that what you're trying to do
separate I'll aspects normal homosexual activity
and pretend that they don't exist for instance
per quarter gays admit to having sex with children
ok amor you for third gays admit
and seeing are hurting like well
by George the odds are gonna a router
once up and Morton even more krueger
if you go to countries right now where when how
pretty well open homosexuality where boys are now
closure and women are only breeders such a hardass
Afghanistan and Pakistan well it's not we're seeing that
at there are absolutely no negative side effects if we look at Massachusetts the
first state to legalize same-sex marriage there has been same-sex
adoption for a long time
absolutely no negative repercussions whatsoever
doctor camera I wanted to ask you about your how was your cap
the back well over half a million gallons problem
each other I haven't got it up
they have in fact been each other with *** and
the latest CDC figures suggest your may be closer Jim 700 house
no one knows for dead sure bone what we do know is
every infection on the average cost us taxpayer
and society seven hundred thousand dollars paid you know how much the
social doctor Cameron this is a silly argument you know the socialized
costs of people smoking should we put smokers in jail as well this is a
ridiculous argument
items articles call unfortunately or
our society for the West as a whole homosexuality is on the bro
and my new reward someone Orton prayer circle
on their *** activities you'll get more of it
and of course the cost will grow exponentially of course homosexuality is
not
on the growth there's no evidence there are more gay people today than at any
other time but we do have a societal situation which
makes gay and lesbian and bisexual people far more comfortable
being out so we're just not going to agree on the facts as usual but doctor
Paul Cameron is always an interesting gas
chairman of the Family Research Institute I don't think anyone on the
show is surprised that you were involved and chatted with lots of Ugandan
elected officials doctor Cameron always great to have you on
are out thank you August