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electorate visit for a moment
a debate we had a couple of weeks ago casey alaskan was with us with the
discovery institute discovery dot organ organization is promoting the concept
of intelligent design in making sure that it's in the text books for our
children and casey feels like i treated him unfairly in the uh... discussion
so casey welcome back
it's really kind of you to have you back on time thank you and i should use that
you are an attorney or the program officer bullock policy legal affairs the
discovery astute and co-founder of the intelligent design an evolution
awareness i_d_
center
and the website or the twitter is at discovery csc
and the weather was its governor
make your case
well i a responded at that point there that the governor pataki to try to
pretend i wouldn't mind a bit expert actually
took everybody have long opposed admitted in keeping with held by the
public schools but i think i'd rather talk about a private discussion today
i've our position is that there are
uh... period i could've probably dirty got in the practical literature we know
that we have a lucien
and these operative budget weaknesses uh... should be taught in public school
we often think however that there is a he compiled by dictate
printout regard at the last word
about decades every third biology
and killed a lot of debate the crime
about the mount of included information our d_n_a_ about chemical language
a computer like that of a commitment outfits
profit with that information in order to produce
molecular machines
and more privacy in practical terms but we have experienced keeping the bike
language and including information programming code
and molecular he'd come from good experience
really one of course metropolitan further that sort of a positive side
with the prepaid argument for intelligent bright if not they apply
religion if not based upon your leader trying to protect our revolution at the
positive argument printout le vine did you decide to become outdated if
required knowledge of of where information comes from so i got to go
out on but i have you know there's
a lot of by the probability that we're committed gotten the preview literature
we can talk about the i_p_o_ here that we care about gee to provide explanation
for the origin of complex teachers actually no you we can anne we can go to
david doesn't sales birds who did you do that and i a m believe right now there's
a debate electricity is does that mean we should not be teaching electronics
want to be teaching our kids that there there are some questions about
electronics maybe you shouldn't use transistors
well i think would be private debating crap ecuadorian evolution
there's no real need to be withholding those student eight
franklin there is no aspect of science that's not in income continuous debate
or or at least
deal continues to
by that that's not the case you that's not the point the put the ice are you
familiar with that you've forgotten actor tony leanna at two forty mt
i'm not
dot i assume you would be burke holy sa sufficiency of the bacteria
uh... i don't have a bacteria i don't know every quebec girl species so i bet
it is not about okay whether is there so we get better in the in the nineteen
thirties we synthesized we humans synthesized the stuff culture for diana
fertile you leaned toward you for d_n_c_
it is the basis not only of nitroglycerin but it's also the basis of
all of our modern polymers nylons
and other products like that
there should be no bacteria that can keep this stuff
you know there is no elevator kid i was intelligent designer back then but they
all of a sudden burke old has a base here of da our forty th are thirty four
the today
bacteria
mutated the creation of an enzyme that allows it to actually keep those in fact
it's sol
source the specter is sole source of carbon energy and nitrogen
to forge an actor totally is a classic case of evolution happening in our
lifetime i've heard of hickory airport actually
it broken down here in a pre-existing medical pathway that without him back
here
who has specified point metabolite that barnum and bailey going evolution to get
you in cape coral etiquette but that everything but that's my point creature
and quiet
make a seat that's argument of intelligent design is that this has been
called irreducible complexity hillary's at some point
you reach the point where if you would have been
you or your break this thing apart into exit component pieces they couldn't have
just like come together accidentally in the in the main example e_v_a_'s uses
for example the bacterial flat flinch elem which is uh...
is is like uh... alive isn't here inside the bacteria that is spinning this
studio it comes out
and and uh... allows it to move you know there's a much only and yet
if he is made out of fifty proteins and then intelligent design advocates have
been from promoting this thing for years and years just look at how complex this
is this could have just come out of nowhere if you take for you those
proteins out if you poll forty those proteins out and you get rid of the tail
what you're left with is the whole of the wall
of the cell
with the temperatures the negative on the wall itself
which surprise surprise turns out to be what we call a type three secretory
physical
secretory system he hits it creates poisons that are produced by
specifically the blue bonnet plague bacteria but many others as well there
was this is part of an original that you know an original evolutionary adaptation
there is no such thing as irreducible complexity ok already verified it up and
i'm glad that you have gotten them out by the big argument here
i had the type repeatedly put them into action is alarming that objection but i
do your part of the refining for years basically what it saying is that
look at what the deadliest angered by what papa power cord
could also be you prepare my toaster that is not an irritant we complex corp
i put my laptop ni papa said no i'll tell them i think is lower study
voluntary unsinkable compacted by paying it one
cup acapulco another function
and therefore it moderately complex we do have to find a step by pepperoni
pathway
and there is not purple portable jump in fact the type repeatedly put them cannot
survey the precursor to the poor job because when you look at that time free
the bacterial pre the powerful victory
they are they arrive very late in the history of bacteria we report our
distributor got nearly all type of gram-negative bacteria and everybody had
multiple written very early casey had sent me back to my original argument
that that what you what do you guys they're what you guys are eg overlooking
is is uh... what i call punctuated evolution actually stephen jay gould
call it what punctuated something
uh... couldn't go every republican political memory and thank you very much
about him but i don't buy that it while you know that's that's the essence of it
is it he he'd just because you can't find the missing link doesn't mean that
there's not only did they it what it means it
that that link occurred over a very short period sign evolutionarily
speaking and there's no there's no record on additional tracer
none of this mandates some you know wiesel man this guy who is saying i
would she i think i'm gonna put a full agenda on you know that's fail on this
particular bacteria and allow it you know to give it the ability to move or
iraq rocket about all that apply what i'm talking about here
is it that when you look at the proper recordkeeping pure white bread pattern
that newt major biological farms appear
without at least aircrew personnel called it proposes theory
they're prepared to listen to curtail quickly filled out the winter la
population paper the pedestal form just didn't get pop bottle there's a problem
with that the problem of the required too much genetic aims to quickly
and biological not able to go with the date of genetic makan no i dont i think
the macaulay has dissipated isn't a problem with *** the recall is that
this is the perfect example of that you've got a bacteria whose sole source
of food and energy
he is a is a polymer
that it was invented in nineteen thirty two we were talking about evacuated
arguably pre-existing advanta pathway
and only prolly modified it is not a change in potted plants
uh... and what we look at about the record i can make a difference is
staff prepared the property report blithe and uh... compaq body plan to
require
ill really complied with the new protein to arrive at least no revolutionary
record
i looked up at that darlene evolution for the program which doesn't mean it's
unnecessary
that doesn't mean it didn't happen case you have to go so i'm not going to go to
compile will have a good look at the event i'm depriving other dignity either
way i'm not getting a lot of good and that they want to be out at the other
predominantly black job videotape that never count on it
but you know if it was not only going to have to get the deficit i think that
that he's he is not a living things i rest my case pc lost in the afternoon
program officer public boston legal affairs discovery institute discovery
dot org
cc always good to
debating before it is worth doing if i can't think of the death of a fairly
confident that plan