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I don't want to draw on the wall that everyone can draw
I want to draw on the wall that I want to draw
or the place where I want to draw
and that the others can't reach
Truants!
I'm gonna call the police
What she said?
that she's gonna call the police
a sublime breath was given to the nation (National Anthem)
a sublime breath was given to the nation (National Anthem)
Glory to the brave nation Which shook off the yoke (Venezuela's national anthem)
Respecting law, Virtue and honour (Venezuela's national anthem)
Glory to the brave nation...
Shall we get off here?
Yeah, here
Respecting law, Virtue and honour. (Venezuela's national anthem)
The cities are, theoretically speaking, the product of the people living in there
but, of course, the recent generations have not created the city
thus, they must cope with a city or live a city
or enjoy a city as their family
they were born in that family without choosing it
Since the decade of the 50s
the belt of poverty around what the experts know as...
"the formal city",
builds an important expression of what the city of Caracas is today.
The city of Caracas doesn't explain itself
without that duality, without that dichotomy between formal and informal city.
they are two sides of the same coin.
In fact, the existence of one depends on the other
Each city council is like a chiefdom
where the mayor basically
is autonomous
in the sense that a mayor has nothing to do with another mayor
If a mayor wants to arrange something with the mayor next door they will
but if they don't want, then it's not going to happen
as it happens in Libertador's council
Hence, each place is like a different city
then you see Caracas, zones, strange things
that abroad experts see and can't understand
for instance, you go to Chacaito and then you see El Rosal, and it is another world,
another urbanistic quality,
another kind of relation,
another kind of services
A segregated city, a city with a large number of neglected sectors
a city with some other sectors much better served
but let's say that they depend on the other sector to survive
in a more or less efficient way
The city of Caracas, to me
represents home, but at the same time
some sort of tormented home
a home in which we are mistreated
but all in all is our home.
Well, Caracas is a city of the Caribbean
a Caribbean city in which everything could be seen.
you can see the unexpected
you can find here from tranquility and peace
to the worst that can happen to anyone
robbery, guns, mugging, armed people, prostitution
All you want to find, from peace to all the bad things
Do you know what I mean?
It has too much personality in my opinion
it is a place where people haven't lost their human side
and have not being stuck to the products
as if they still preserve the human side of things
you can see this all over the buses, dude
in which each of them has a different drawing or picture
Caracas is the best city of the world
without question
what happens is that people don't know how to appreciate it, dude
Leaving behind thoughts that Caracas is an unsafe place
with a high level of violence
and that it's one of the most unsafe cities
To me, Caracas is a paradise
it has a very tainted side that you can take benefit from, you know?
and you can do whatever you want
In this city I do whatever I want.
You've got this problem here in Caracas that rules are not clear, never.
you have to understand it, the rules are flexible for everyone, the law
knowing how to play and to move within them.
Caracas is one of the most enjoyable cities
of course, there is a lot of injustice
It happens whenever wherever, that's Caracas
Happens anything in any place
Even if it is dangerous or whatever people say everywhere
foreigners or nationals
it is a very different place, an unique place and it has a lot of value
No dude, people here is very friendly
that's the cool thing here, the warmth of the people here
that's what I like
May God give it back to you in health! Thank you. What's that for man?
- Chill out, it's for a documentary
- Smile dude, smile
- No, No. That costs money mate!
- Come on!
It's the ethernal pursuit of money (moonlighting)
It's the traffic jam you might find for not spending
5 BsF on a ticket (BsF: Venezuelan currency)
because it is expensive
It's that, the day to day, like a constant movement
up and down
That is...
for instance, the chaos
the violence
the dirtiness
it's that
You have to draw, but you are *** scared (extremely frightened)
not only because of the police but also because someone can shoot you
everyone is armed, it is like all madness
and well, the walls, I don't know.
Caracas is madness
The aesthetics of Caracas for me is something beautiful
well, it is *** up in too many ways
because wandering in Caracas, in the streets of Caracas, is hard
in Caracas you can find whatever you want
and precisely that makes me
I don't know, it makes me love my city, dude
the fact of being...
moody and unpredictable
Here, you know?, one day you can go out and make it beautiful
and the next, well dude, you know?
you can have a hard time thanks to your city
Last time they didn't even check my bag
because the thug stayed there with the driver
the bloke shot me, but it hit the window
no way!
“*** I told you to move to the other side...
...or the next is gonna be on your head”
I had my belongings down here but he took the money from there
and a woman sitting in front of me rushed to the door to get off the bus
I already know the procedure when they come
that's a ***, dude
they broke my my bag in another mugging two days ago, how about that?
Good things happen, *** also happens
a day can be awesome but sometimes
you can have a really bad day
in Caracas you see everything
Caracas must be one of the most mixed cities of the world, I think
in every way
you can find very posh places
as well as the worst *** in the world
polluted rivers, rubbish and the likes
a lot of sharp objects that could injure you
that could harm you, cause you a disease
You can find everything, it is like a cocktail
Caracas is a cocktail, there's everything in it
it is cool, dude!
I grew up here and I don't regret having been born here
Some people say: "I wish I was born elsewhere"
but I was born in Caracas and...
maybe I will die here as well
Here, in Caracas
I haven't seen anything that might be considered as "proper graffiti"
if that exists, or artistic graffiti
What we see is a severe visual contamination
and there's...
let's say no way to control it
The authorities don't look after much more important things
such as monitor and guarantee safety to the population
hence, there's no chance to expect them to watch
when a young person grabs a spray paint can
and paints over a public or private space
It has recently become
an outbreak
because it seems that there are certain ways of imitation
within those groups
that might be called outsiders
they compete to see
who will reach the most inaccessible place
or a place where it can be more easily seen
or place where it causes more harm
Yeah, there are some cops standing there, to the right
They shouldn't be painting in places that don't belong to them
to express their...or their names because that's what they put there
because they don't put anything else
they just paint there
because to me, those are just scrawls
Before there were no horrible stuff
that what does is...
damage...
the city council where we live
Why elderly people get mad when they see that ***?
They are not seeing...
I mean, they can't see what I see, can they?
That *** is awesome
Graffiti is the most...
awesome thing I have in my life
The graffiti came to me
I didn't go to buy it in a shopping centre
The graffiti has given to me all I have
it has given to me, my friends
my profession
it has given to me...
it has taught me how to deal with the street
it has taught me how to defend myself
it has made me man
Graffiti is something that I can't explain what functionality has
how football players can explain you the functionality...
of go running behind a ball all their life?
it simply make them happy
it makes me happy to paint
that's why I do it, it makes me happy
Graffiti is culture
it's chilling out with people, dude
it is talking things that nobody will understand
is...
in a way, being happy
in a city where you can't be happy
no kidding!
Graffiti gives you the chance to do so
Fun and entertainment is, I think,
one of the most rewarding things in the world
you know?, and I'm having that for free
I'm having fun
I'm entertained for free
I mean, it's obviously not free
because everything has costs
but costs that I'm willing to pay
This *** *** up my life
I mean, I'm the age that I am
I haven't been able to graduate
I have nothing whatsoever
you know? I don't have a car
I never have any money
I don't have a girlfriend
I've a record at the police
life has been *** me
I've been mugged many times
I have not...
I could say that apart from...
I mean, I don't have any friends
other than my graffiti friends
Graffiti *** up my life, mate!
I think that you can't typecast graffiti
it obviously started
and will remain,
being something without permissions and without laws
The laws are inside people who...
know graffiti and do graffiti
If it is art
I don't enjoy that saying
or people saying that it is art
If it is vandalism
I'm not killing anyone with what I'm doing
I'm only painting what I want, and that's it
People say:
“no, graffiti it's not art, no, graffiti it is art”
then, they're are always discussing
It's highly subjective
Of course, there's a whole aesthetic composition
and lots of things
that we have
because we have our aesthetic and artistic pretensions
but, you don't have to understand it
as the end of graffiti or its essence
I am a graffiti writer
and the ones that consider themselves artist
they can consider themselves artist
I am a graffiti writer
I don't know, I don't understand that
No, I haven't bought in Graffiti (A shop)
I've never entered to Graffiti (a shop), never
I don't understand Spanish
Graffiti
What do you think of graffiti?
Well, it depends on the place where the graffiti is done, don't you think?
What if they do it in place where they should not?
Well, for instance, in my face. I wouldn't like to have a graffiti
on my face, not
On my back or my leg is fine
I see graffiti as a necessity
I don't see it as a hobbie or...
something that grows in me
I mean, it is...
a necessity
24 hours
7 days a week
My life revolves around graffiti
it is not that graffiti revolves around my life
It's like you want to paint
every single day of your life
everywhere
it is something...
it is something that you can't get rid of
it is like...
everything revolves around graffiti
Once you are involved into it
the move
your friends
all you think of
what you talk between each other
you are always watching to see the points (to paint)
you are quiet in the car just watching
studying where else you can paint
arranging with your friends where you all can do it
the colours
the productions
It's something really big
that occupies most of your life
once you know about it
You create the situation
and it's not that a situation is created for you
Create a name
and remain hidden
but stay high
I mean
what is important is what is here
not me
I'm just a middleman, an intermediary
It's like I'm trying to put the things
or translate the things to the camera
but, in fact, in graffiti that doesn't exist
In graffiti what exists
is what you see in the street
When you turn your head
you see stains
you see definitions
you see tags
you see bombs
you see pieces
That's graffiti
Playing with letters
tailing them out
and putting the forms that you like the best
I'm not going to explain what graffiti is all about
between scientists
they have their code and their language
We have our language
We know what this dude did
that looks cool
we know what the dude did
and was rubbish
we know when...
It's simply our code...
The thing is that there are elites of elites
there are codes that are so subtle
that only an experienced
writer
understands that code
and there are other codes that seem to be so evident
but there are arseholes that can't see it
So, not even the graffiti codes
are always understood by the grafiteros (graffiti writers)
Graffiti is graffiti
and it's for the person that does graffiti
that person that does graffiti
can understand why a letter is being made in a particular place
or, perhaps, why silver and black
is being used
I mean, graffiti
is for the person that does graffiti
If there's an individual external to the movement
and understands...
it is because this person has dedicated some time to seek information
or really understand: why?
but it's that
I don't use it as an escape
it's not a way of expression for me
It's simply graffiti
there's no other definition
To me is still unclear
which...
or towards where is being focused that expression
or where it leads, how to convey it?
Perhaps, there's no interest of
channelising that
but consider them, individual expressions
that try
to create
a counterpoint
in relation to the challenge
and transgression that means
create a graffiti
It's very difficult to give a meaning to what you do
like, I'm going out to paint today
because I want to express myself
I'm going out to paint today
because I want, you know? transgress?
That's a lie!
you go out to paint one night
because you want to go out to paint, full stop
You've seen a point that you liked and you went out to paint
Only the fact, as I told you before,
of going out to paint...
is a way to communicate the others what you are doing
it depends on the person
the complexity of what they do
Why did you draw that so ugly?
why did you abuse of that space?
Well, I did it because I had a white paint can and I was passing by
There's no other explanation for it
I saw it and I liked it, nothing else
There's no explanation
grafitero (graffiti writer) that comes with an explanation
that I came to express myself or *** like that
what it is, is an arsehole
It's a minority that kind of people
that want to communicate something
“honestly”
to say it in one way.
First, I have no interest that it will serve them
I'm not trying to make my graffiti social and to leave a message
so people can see it and say:
“Oh! I'm gonna change and I'm gonna make Venezuela better”
no, no, no
The message is none
The message is that someone painted in a point
and several points and lots of points
It's only my name
here, there and everywhere
it's that
they are...
scrawls
A police car
A police car coming?
that in the street where I walk
I can feel that I have walked before
that I've been there
I've tagged there
I've bombed there
that maybe I've done a piece
perhaps lots of things more
The important thing is
to feel that when you walk somewhere
you feel it yours
Alert! the cops are down there dude
I don't know what they aim for
people say vandalism
but those guys have concerns
are they coming?, are they coming?
People, obviously, see it as something
agressive...
because the tags are very agressive
I mean...
I see it like that
because of their shape and...
because of where they are located
That's very pleasant
To leave your name
in different places
it's like
you're labelling them
To those ones who do it
it might be a satisfaction
but that affects the aesthetic of the community
It looks ugly
Well, I don't know if they are ugly, but to me, they are not
I've to decorate the city to my taste
or our taste
to the taste of the GSC
but, not in the community areas
at least to us, it's expensive
because several times we had to paint the front
it doesn't look pretty, as simple as that
I've seen others somewhere else that don't look bad
but everyone with their own taste
about something being functional
it's functional all what can nourish you
If there's something that nourish you in a way
you don't have to argue about that not being functional
You see a work of art or whatever
what's the functionality of a work of art?
Or maybe you can say, how disgusting is that lying on the floor
and they are chewing gum, all together
like the ones you can find on the sidewalk
maybe with some paint stains
and something else
You translate that to a painting
lots of stains here and there
some lines there
Of course!
it's something that transmits you something
just like the chewing gum
So...
That's graffiti
it's like...
something that transmits something
at some moment
It gives...
personality to a place
or more globally, to a city
"Latino pesao"
They're little group of people that have nothing to do
supposedly all very young
they don't
feel themselves alienated by the current typical environment
in which Caracas has became
There is a lot of what is called "anomie"
in sociology
They want to communicate something
or simply feel themselves part of a group
they are even several groups competing between each other
you can see...
the kind of phrases...
or signatures they put in those scrawls
Graffiti is a competition
it's: "this is me and I'm here and everywhere"
"and my presence is visible more than anyone else"
Graffiti is wanting people to see it
to see it as many times as you can
or maybe not to be seen by some
but seeing it in a good way
like: "this graffiti is awesome"
I mean, you do it in quantity or you do it in quality
You know? a good point and something good you do
I think is the best
Who says that graffiti is not competition
even if you legally paint a wall
is a ***
The way in which you do it
is what will distinguish you from the rest
is what will make you unique
the way you do it
how you do it and where
it's that...
Lots of those lads are studying
don't think they are truants
or thugs as people say
What people or grafitero (graffiti writers) think
I don't care
as long as I like it
it's fine
well...
I think it is a personal language for each person
It's a lie when a grafitero says:
“no, well, my graffiti is for nobody”
I think, that if it was for nobody, you wouldn't be painting in the street
nor exposing it in the street
painting in the street, is already making your graffiti public
Everyone knows the meaning of each thing
and everyone get mad for one or another reason
And that makes things interesting
it's like the "beef", that's the contribution of the "beef" to the issue
the "beef" is like...
competition in its pure form
is what makes this *** to grow
It's the way you defend yourself, your way to offend
That's the "beef", it's a fight
"Tapa con tu nombre" (cover with your name)
When you do something public in the street
you communicate with people located in the same place
and the graffiti says who you are in the graffiti
what do you want in the graffiti
what you're looking for in the graffiti
If you are looking for trouble, probably you will find them
if you are not looking for them, you might find them anyway
Graffiti is competition
Everyone here in Caracas
know very well what I mean
Competition is fundamental in Graffiti
and lots of problems might appear
problems might be generated
and you will have to solve them in the street
"Siempre superior a tí" (always superior to you)
I think that the "beef"
I mean, when it ends in a fight
it's like the person with whom you have the "beef"
couldn't stand being beaten on the wall
and well, they have to find another way to *** you up
and they go to a physical attack
because "I have no chance to win on the wall"
You know why it would stay on the wall?
because you're risking your life for a point
you're giving your time
and it's your life
What graffiti does there?
that's what you live
and that's the moment of your life
if someone paints over yours
you will not remember the spray paint can you used
I didn't lose anything
You will remember the effort
Do you know if a graffiti writter fell over?
Do you know if a madman appeared with a gun?
Do you know if a madman tried to stab me?
Do you know if a group of madman tried to smash bottles on me?
It's your life
You invest even more hours
thinking of graffiti
when you are in a "beef"
you invest more paint
you invest with strategy
it's about using your head
that's it...
it's making things
even smarter
than you will made them without it
that's what I neither do see on the wall
it can be clever in terms of...
let's address some concepts on this wall, but...
all that other little ***
is what makes the graffiti
graffiti itself
There're lots of things you can't do
you can't step into someone's shoes
someone that has 10 more years than you painting
when you were 11
and your mum took you to school
holding hands
that person was risking their *** in the street
The owner is there arsehole!
Hurry up dude!
***!
***, that kiosk is all broken up, dude!
go, go!
Graffiti is about respect
and that's one of the fundamental bases
and you've got to earn it
respect is earned
and you earn it painting
you earn it in the street
is there someone watching through that window?
I have spoken for everybody! (His Crew)
I *** up the cap!
Go! go!
To me
the rules are
that you have to paint always
legal or illegal
trying to...
make illegal
the most important part of what you do
I think, you should always try
to keep your name
under the illegality
as well as your face
your name
your crew
as it should be
in secret
Right now, I see it
cool to be recognised just by the tag you've got and nothing else
I think that the most "Toy" thing that exist
when you
find the
super...
super pseudo writer that has their tag on their caps
or wearing a t-shirt in the street
so people know who this person is
Why I can't do it?
oh! There are rules in graffiti
give them to me!
find me the rules to read them
Oh ***!, I can't appear uncovered in a magazine
My bad
You know?
Everyone knows that I paint legal that i do a good wall
and I put my tag
“Aww! That's cool Dinamo did it”
and everyone knows that I go at night and I paint on the gates of a workshop
You know?
"that's obvious"
Yep, I'm obvious arsehole!
Don't you feel pressure, dude?
Always
otherwise I wouldn't paint
Look at the woman how...
What is she doing?
She's washing her clothes
that's dedication, dude!
That's because of the situation
I think it is more fun when
you rely on certain parameters
and you don't skip a whole process
in order to create a "personal style"
and what you're actually doing is ***, because
you never understood the style
What the style means
the letters
and you are doing
any ***
and being incapable
In fact, there is no rule
because everyone does graffiti as they *** want to
I believe, they should not think about rules
because it comes from an anarchist media
you don't believe in anyone
and you paint wherever you want
I don't get involved into those problems
That's a youngsters thing
Legal
graffiti
in Venezuela
is seen as an stumbling block
it is...
like a betrayal
In the kind of graffiti I believe
the game is different
it's not about painting your own wall
like...
stay chilling out at home
I think...
in Venezuela
graffiti has not matured
100%
because in other places
where high rank graffiti
exists
there's legal graffiti
and there's illegal graffiti
So
they are like two...
two very different worlds, you know?
Basically, you're standing there
and you are leaving something
but it doesn't compare at all
with hanging out and put some "bombs"
illegal and without any kind of permission
in a place where you know that if they catch you, you'll be *** up
there's no comparison
You have to...
apply a lot of other skills
when you go out to do that
I feel that...
in a way, that thing gives you cleverness
In terms of some of the things I paint
well...
lots of people in my slum
and some other slums I have painted
enjoy it
and that's what I'm interested in, indeed, lots of times
I can paint a bomb and that's cool
people will enjoy that
if it's a good one
but, on the other hand, if you paint a mural
that's another beta (story)
People will...
enjoy it more
What supports legal graffiti
and I think is what keeps it alive and valid
is an aesthetic matter
it's an aesthetic matter of the lettering used
but if you end doing faces with spray
and you've lost the lettering
you've lost the essence of doing it illegal
stop it arsehole, don't fool yourself
go out and do an oil painting
no matter what, it's another technique
you are a technician
you know a technique
You are an officiant
You are not a graffiti writer
You are a spray's officiant
I do my things as I want
and you do yours as you want
that's it
Give them a physical space just for that purpose
Well, if they want to give spaces
they're more than welcome
thing is that it is a cancer anyway
Graffiti is like a cancer that spreads massively
If you give me a wall
I'm gonna paint on that wall
and so I will on the light pole next to it
and I'll go to the gates at the corner
and I'll paint a bomb
I mean, it is...
a plague
you can try to control it
but at the end of the day
the graffiti doesn't need that to survive
The Graffiti will always survive anyway
You know?
The graffiti was born illegal
for me, really
giving me walls doesn't
solve anything
because...
that's not my game
I mean, my game
needs
some elements that are not being given there
my game needs someone to catch me
it's like playing cops and robbers
and have a little card in your pocket that says:
“do not touch him”
you know?, what you gonna do?
Stay there, just standing
as everyone is playing around you
but they will not touch you although you're still playing, right? ok
So
the grafitero has the challenge of being able to say
what they want to say in minimum spaces
in spaces that were not...
made for them...
so, I think that...
giving them an easy space so they have where to paint
rob them, all the capacity of...
dreaming
of adventure
of enjoyment
of risk...
therefore
I think that's a topic that shouldn't be touched
I think that graffiti
doesn't need more space than it already has
All the spaces are for graffiti
Oi!
Chamo! (dude)
The graffiti...
has...
as life itself, the illegality
it has vandalism as...
an engine
Police!
I'm going out to check
A thing is that they like to do it
and another is that they damage the facades
the walls...you've to be civilised
you know? you have to be
let's say
respect the urban laws, you know?
This will take about 10 minutes
They are very creative, aren't they?
Well, I could do it in a point at the Urdaneta (avenue)
one of those...
you know? the business gates that they have converted into walls
that we bombed and then they buffed (painted over)
How will that crazy guy is gonna get down from there?
It's the pleasure that you have taken it
that you have reached that roof
not because they gave you a ladder
climbed like an arsehole, you had the permission
no, no...
you climbed there
because you found where to climb
you had the idea
and also the physical agility to do it
it's about all those things
and you go up there and you paint any *** you want
that's the excuse
of course!
it's most enjoyable if you do it well
if you do a good graffiti
Police!
Police!
Police!
I can imagine how must be to go out at night to paint things
they must...
they must have fun there
come, come suck it!
come here!
come here! come here! suck it
come here!, come here!
watch out the camera
you suck it first
come!, come here!
Leave me alone, dude
***, dude!
Watch out, they come, and nothing stop them (Prostitutes singing)
Awww! PAINT!
My love!
How much you charge? 300, 300
***, but everything for us. I've a big one, let's talk clear
Knowing what time the police cars stop passing by
or what route, or avenue
or business gates are closed 24 hours
or...
how to speak
how to arrive to the place, how to use the cans efficiently
what colours work well, like using silver in certain wall
or doesn't work
or how would it be more colourful
When it is legal you don't have that problem
that doesn't exist
when it is legal you might look as an artist in its workshop
throwing paint, turning away, enjoying the thing
arranging something, composition
but what in essence makes graffiti a discipline
that I find more similar to sports than art or something else
You know? a more physical discipline, more than just being there painting
it's, to me, what I find the most essential in graffiti:
The whole question of being underground
and how you do it, how you suddenly appear
and take the things, not giving a ***
and all that happens at the time of doing it
mind you, doing illegal graffiti
That's it!
I'd rather illegal graffiti
something not pretty
because I don't want it to look as something "pretty"
So, yeah...
that's why
from my point of view, the graffiti has to be illegal
Police!, Police!
where?, where?
They didn't hear you
huh?
they didn't hear you, they didn't hear you
Police!
Watch out for cops
The advertising
is...
deep inside the heart of the city
the passerby
the driver
As we drive we have an encounter with real
galleries...
of...
billboards, messages
The cops are coming
Yeah?
Yeah, stay here
here?
Yeah
Well...
Yeah
I don't care about painting over their billboards
you know? all they want is profit behind those billboards
and they couldn't care less
about put them and sell goods morally questionable
even with women in bikinis
or alcohol
Johnnie Walker and any ***...
in a motorway that...
incidentally is where most of the accidents related to alcohol happen
So, as for painting over their billboards, I don't really give a ***
about sabotaging that ***
I go, I do it and...
I know I'm doing that for a more personal pleasure
without trying to promote something or lying or...
get something from someone else
In terms of the billboards, there is...
There is a paucity of connotative message
we could say that
Therefore, the production of
cultural, human, or more elaborated social knowledge is not present
I'm *** my pants with this one, dude
Tip me off
Because of the actual situation
it is a safe bet
Those are simply things they sell
that meet the purpose
Why does look so wrong some blokes writing letters in the street
but doesn't look that bad to put some gals...
topless on the motorway
you know? it's not that I'm against the topless gals,
but you know?, that's me thinking of the gals ***
I don't have to include everyone on my tastes about ***
you know? there are children...
or little girls, whoever, that
shouldn't be seeing that thing
but they put it and it's legal
because you paid!
There's a registered company which is paying rights
and taxes to use that space
They contracted a team and they already
paid to someone to have a billboard,
and then, all of the sudden, we see
the graffiti writers piece of art included in the same billboard,
and to be honest, in my opinion,
in that moment that's to me an invasion of someone else's space.
Although it is private property
I still have to see it
you know, if your property is private and you want to put a swastika outside your building
you could say that it's your building
but all what your swastika represents
I don't like it
that said, just to illustrate with an example...
I don't want to see billboards advertising their rubbish products
when I'm on the motorway,
it's not...
it's not my ideal of a nice scenery in the motorway, so,
I don't have to accept it!
I'm not interested
Advertising is a misleading way of...
of convincing people to buy their rubbish
A way of...
making you buy even canned ***
in any way they can, putting them through your eyes if necessary
Bus stops
different kind of ads
advertising painted on the walls
advertising on the floor
I have to watch that *** on TV
radio, everywhere
also banners
All this gets into my nerves
and I want to attack all that
The advertising...
is somehow complementing
the function of the architecture
it is giving colour
to what the architects have done
In many cases happens that advertising
uses places, that perhaps for marketing
they might consider a "novelty", and they put
a cup of coffee over a building
or a Pepsi sphere over the Polar tower building
which is one of the architectural icons of the 50s in Venezuela
It results for the perception of the architectural...
a distortion
that, for certain groups
or sectors of the architecture or the academy
it is not acceptable
That happens for many reasons
that have their explanation, surely, in a lack of control
and a lack of a structure and organisation of what is considered public space.
Therefore, advertising invades private spaces that don't belong to them
That's like beauty, it is subjective
And if the architect, of course,
works or has as specialties the buildings
I would totally agree that such advertising doesn't like them
But probably many architects
that consider unpleasant
such advertising in Caracas
go to New York and they find it fascinating
in...
certain places and certain corners also emblematic of the city, right?
Actually,
I could also say
that many works of architects dislike me
Nowadays, everything is the same, a lego brick and that's it
it's all they're doing now
There're very few new things that you can say "Wow!"
the truth right now is grey: just concrete and nothing else
There are no...
willingness to transmit something with concrete
it's simply a space where you can go in and out, I think that's wrong
Well...
it's also fair to say that not all the architectures deserve
to be respected by the advertising and the graffiti
because sometimes the architectures don't
adequately express the spiritual and transcendent values
of a determined...
social group, or determined human group
So, sometimes...
it is also the architecture the one that transgresses
And the one that...
doesn't ends up adequately expressing
the aspirations of a group
I used to walk around here, now I go to "Los Castores"
because, to me, I don't have a space
Is that silver?
Those are the markers with style
you'll see how they tag
where did you find all that? right now, here?
Yeah, dude
In the street
all this is from the street
***, but don't drop it like that
Police!
Those are messages left
by the society we have
its crappy TV
its crappy radio
the crappy press that all that say is lies
No one controls it, and they want to show a whole different world
I'm against those things
The advertising
let's say
must be controlled
should be advertising that is manifested in a particular relation
to the inhabitants, and could be regulated
always thinking about the benefit of the inhabitants in the city
it shouldn't be people subject to advertising
but advertising should be subject to people
I'm not in favour of those things they write there
nor those horrible drawings
They look like gang drawings, or scoundrel, I don't know
Try to do what you like but without spoiling the city
because it damages the facade…
For instance, in this street
they do graffiti to the vehicles, the walls, everything
It is another reflection of everything we are, right?
It's a bit that
The graffiti responds to what we are
I mean...
everything responds to what we are
The number of buildings that are planned a large building next to a small one
I mean
There're buildings that are located where they should not be
Yes, we tend to be a bit anarchic at times
Venezuelans tend a bit not to plan those constructions
to put things in the first place they think
Hence, yes, I think that
Graffiti is another element of that anarchy.
Not for being the architecture, a fact...
that is built through an architectural project
it's a more legitimate fact than the others
Perhaps the issue of graffiti
that might be interpreted as an oversight,
it's not the only oversight of the city
The city has major deficiencies
The city has...
shortcomings since its planning
a gap in terms of inequality
a social inequality that exists when some people...
pay...
well, live with the same right
that might have any of us
regarding the use of the city
but they live in conditions far worse, right?
Not for housing, but the public space
that they have it in a deficient manner
To rescue San Antonio (city)
San Antonio needs to be rescued
Like something...
not like it is now
all this is destroyed
in a way or another is destroyed
in a way everyone is putting something to destroy it
Also advertising is anarchic
and the constructions are anarchic
and, and well...
How many things are not anarchical?
Come here daddy, each one with each of us
Let's do a threesome between us, I want the one wearing white
today you'll have it free
but sucking only, Today, on the house
come, let's go downstairs!
Only a bit sucking
easy, easy, calmly
What do you want?
Milk
ok, come here
Those persons or organisations who are giving space
what they're doing is giving more space where you can paint
The vandal or "the burn" will never stop
it's part of the movement, that's graffiti
It's about being incognito
nobody knows who did it
but you suddenly woke up
and, ***!, there's something new in the street
bórralo
And people will forget you, will forget that you exist
and you're there, but are not there
you're everywhere, but you're nowhere
that's to be underground
Zero propaganda
Zero video
Zero ***
Zero looking for publicity
promotions
All that...
Takes away your essence
Well, being honest
I'm not very agree
because, apart from everything else, we know so little about it, right?
the meaning of what a graffiti is
One often feels left out of that message
and possibly
important sectors of the city
feel that way and
it contributes
to the to misunderstanding
of that expression
If the society feels excluded
dude, we've been excluded of million of things in the past
I say, find a common person in the street
and ask them about Miró
Yeah, Picasso, easy!
How many of you understand?
Yeah, How many understand the entire, issue of the four-dimensionality?
How many?, and see, Picasso, easy!
I'm not saying something unknown...
and, how many applaud without understanding?
it is already made
deal with it!
it is about trying to keep yourself forever immortal
that no matter what happens
you'll always be on that place
because it is your city
The desire to paint again will return the next day
no matter what you have painted before
or the number of things you've painted
you will always want more
It's infinite
It's not something that finish because you went and painted
To have serious people
people that mind their own business
and don't mind about what the others do
The graffiti is not interested in anyone's opinion
So...
it doesn't care whether you like it or not
or...
if it looks ugly or if it looks...
like something that is useless
You know? The Graffiti is not interested in anything
it is only there
you know?
It's similar to...
what an uknown person might think about you
You know? You don't care if someone else...
thinks
or believes...
whatever, you are still you, and that's it
And so it is The Graffiti
it doesn't need to be changed by anyone
and it will be there...always, and...
if you do not like it your best bet is to ignore it
But...
The Graffiti is there and that's it
you remove it
and The Graffiti remains
It will always be there
in the same way, if you don't like what I do
then do...
become proactive
go out and paint
and do your buff
you're in your freedom, and I'll see if I paint over it
or go out and draw a doll
I don't know, whatever you can think of painting
Make a proposal
Special dedication to my Father Fernando Toussaint
Thanks to all who do graffiti in this city, those who participated,
those who joined us on this, those who took us to the point,
to who invited us to the slum those who tipped off,
Those who walked and ran Caracas with us
Those who did la pata gallina... in the end
Thanks to those who made this possible
Thanks to all those who reviewed and broadcasted the film
Thank you all Caracas, Venezuela 2011