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welcome to the show i went to the movies yesterday with on the fourth of july for
the first time in a while for the month of the been to the movies
and i saw this moon rise kingdom
movie had enough of seen it
uh... excellent movie very good yet that there is good the july consign
but it was very good
so great movie but there were a number of different incident that happened at
the movie theater
first by involved the handicap seating there you know what these theaters how
you walk in
were where you walk in
there's kind of a passageway that goes across to the exit on the other side of
the theater
if you have some around six feet wide or something like that their seats below
that and then their seats above it that go up the stairs
and there's usually one space for wheelchairs which is right in that
section that's the area for people who are either in a wheel chair needed back
there wheelchair up
or who are handicapped the needed care instead of seat sitting in one of the
kind of stadium seats
you know the description
knows that
this the theater okay
so you walk in there and there's a sign in that first row that
big handicapped sign says
handicap seating very clear
so i go in there and um... it's it's very it's not busy at all because um...
it was like the previous showing was sold out so everybody went in the next
one but it was empty store 'cause it was early right
and i sat with my girlfriend about the second rolled behind the handicapped
seeds okay
pretty early on three people to people walk in and they see
fit in the handicap seats they didn't appear
to have any kind of handicapped that i could ascertain simply simply from
looking at them right is that they're saying let's bear okay
the fear dk completely fills up
okay 'cause that the fact
and bug-eyed walks in
small his walking udya rolls in in a wheelchair with two other people
and he backs into the spot where the wheelchairs go and then the seats on
either side
are uh... phil now on one side
there is actually there's a couple
and the woman was uh... was on crutches so it made sense she was there v on the
other side there's this couple that was sitting there and the theater people
come in in the *** when i come over here in the entire thing they say hey you
know
uh... these are handicapped seeds and this person is here with his party
woohoo
you know we like to have people sit together
there would you mind finding a another c
it's a couple about fifty five years old
and they started
they say no no no i wouldn't be that we got here
at the very beginning and now there's no good seats left blah blah blah and the
woman's as well
but it's clearly marked that these are handicap seats and the woman continues
to argue saying she'd where is it marked and they walker over and they say see
near here is user that's not
mark clearly enough
and things like that without your entering the rotary
in the middle of the big city where there's yield signs
there is you know go this way to get on this highway go this way there's the
signs everywhere
so you might miss the handicapped sign
it's a theater there's nothing on any wall
right there's only one side and the whole theater made at the sign that was
six feet from where she was sitting in huge letters that same these are
handicapped seats
eventually they did move but by what i mean www
it's the same risk that you take when you get on the subway and their side
feats that are
news was to give preference to handicap people
the place fills up and you have to get up for handicapped person
you might not be able to get one of the non handicap seats at that point because
you chose to sit there is here with and why risk if they got there early they
could be just about any seeing the place to sit one row behind the scenes of just
as good right
this reminds me though that incident i think you were there when we were
younger and we went and we sat in those four handicap seats that were kind of
four seats together very busy movie
and then it was like at ten fifty movie you remember this i think you were there
yeah and somebody a couple walking with the baby okay now this was a rated r_
movie after ten p m
and they come in with the baby
and we get past a move by the the theater people because there's someone
who wants those seats and and and we actually we were seventeen eighteen of
the time
i don't know that i would have been this aggressive now but i said we also why do
we have to move there's no one is handicapped they said well they have a
baby
one of the said
number one a baby is not a handicap
you chose to have the baby presumably mean
and number two
but there's not supposed to be babies are rated r_ movies after ten o'clock
but was not supposed to be i don't even know the supposed to be babies any rated
r blue so i think we were legitimate there
in saying we are standing on ground so to speak
uh... but i think this case yesterday was completely broken completely absurd
it was absurd
you have to be
other thing there was also uh... these seats get closer and closer together now
it's almost like an airplane now where you can get out
that stepping over the person or the person moving i went we got in there so
we really that i went to the bathroom like five minutes before the movie
started so i wouldn't have to go during the film
and when i was coming back agashe od out there was nobody sitting to my lap when
i when i left there's a guy the seat of my life
so expressing excuse me in kind of doing the sideways walk you know when when
estaba newark in their and the guy just ignored me he disliked looked straight
forward like this and didn't move is news at all
so i started kind of it was almost like doing hurdles like olympic hurdles right
was stepping over and and i wanted to just exaggerate how annoying this guy
was being so actually leaned over and braced myself on the seat than i was
almost vertical
and i was kind of like stepping over and i purposely snag my foot on his need to
show
you can let people thirty-year yeah he didn't like it when i finally sat down
after four p l falling down into doing a whole charade
and the guys this glaring at me like this
mhm for about two three minutes and then eventually than we have got died in the
movie started
have some common sense and move your knees when somebody's walking in for yet
where people don't move i i intentionally hit them
or or say something rude actual here i don't say anything group but i just make
it clear how difficult it is for megan and i think i have some fun with these
people absolutely
michelle bachman will not deny that she's been vetted for vice presidential
candidate for mit romney as mit romney's running mate
please
if god exists
he must be a fan of parity
and he would make her the vice presidential pick i think loess
i actually think it's a good idea i think i i said before i think she's a
brilliant v_p_ pick let's take a listen to the audio first and then watch the
video and then we'll hear from
leykis president
are you doing better than a month
well that's something for the campaign dancer on that's not that's not for me
to make that
that and decision and that announcement
but as we know it's not for her to make that decision nobody after is it your
decision as to whether you will be the running mate the question was whether
she was being batted
and in a very weird way
not denying it
and tell you why would she be a good
uh... running-mate sarami
she could rally the the christians who don't like
romney because he's a mormon abandon rally the tea party years you don't like
romney because uh...
he doesn't care about these are not possibly carry aspect of the party
but what do you think the ties that legit
uh... yeah i think she would round up some of romney's rough edges and also
uh...
i think in general uh... she would be what the mccain campaign wanted out of
pale and but she couldn't deliver um however yeah i don't think she's
necessarily the best running mate but i do agree with louis tissue in the about
all i think it would be paling to point out i think the woman is completely out
of her mind i think the video attack would start right away and again
we we have to go back to what we said a little while ago which was no matter
what
rational argument we can make about the christians who don't like mormons might
vote
people are voting four the vice presidential candidate but they could
see themselves being influenced the book
tooth get away from a ticket because of the absurdity of the vice presidential
candidate
so i don't really thought about agree with what you're saying
logistically i just don't think that is the waited to develop a strategy
we'll see i mean i
forty teaches our show actually be that that pic i would say two to four and a
half percent
roughly world and that we would like to
then we might not ever find out
if she's a depict i think it is very possible that there is a said that there
is the strong consideration being given to having a woman candidate but i think
it's
far more likely it would be someone like nikki hailey
or uh... or maybe an romney herself
god
about that
okay omit romney's campaign
bellary if we failing at venn diagrams you know what event diagram is right
lewis
you've got insignia of number of circles with represent different groups and the
the place where those circle intersect
show what does different
groupings have in common row k
so the ronnie campaign let phenotype we can put avendano gramm won
full-screen for people so they can really get a good look at this and i'll
describe it
that that run the campaign put together a venn diagram that was designed to show
the false promises they claimed the obama campaign made about health care so
you see a blue circle on the left which says
obon a promise to lower insurance premiums by twenty five hundred dollars
you see
a red circle on the right that says result
healthcare
premiums increased by twenty three hundred dollars
and then in the middle
it has gap
held premium cost
are forty eight hundred dollars higher
this is not the way of n diagram or
and apparently they didn't get the memo over the ronnie campaign
very very strange stuff then
let's go to venn diagram number to the time they had been received a bunch of
information presumably about these band diagrams
and they put out another one on unemployment were again making no sense
on the left
the promise from a bomb about unemployment
on the right the result and apparently the intersection of the promise in the
result
is the gap
very very weird stuff somebody should tell them what they need to i mean this
they spell america rom
on intact
now they're messing up venn diagrams this is very strange i want this is
uh... with
i mean it
this is something that could be intentional abuses in the state or is
that intentional businesses intentionally idiotic
why would anyone ever do this
uh... and a more accurate venn diagram would be like for example on the left
circle it shows what obama care dies
and on the right circle it shows what romney care does and then in the middle
circle it shows that they have in common
eliciting those were busy with the exact overlaps with that
pretty much yet so that maybe that's not a good example of a venn diagram
odd last month actually began looking for a new copy writer after the series
of typos including
misspelling america official and sneak peek
my sense is maybe soon they'll be getting a new graphic designer
i hope so actually no i don't know sir
let's keep it from going to continue yet
rush limbaugh says actually have rush limbaugh on your shirt today lewis
i do have as one of the three stooges
rush limbaugh says that when women got the right to vote is wanted all went
downhill
then later on he claims he's joking but if they'd waited too late let's take a
listen to some of the signing of the
he came from them
and i thought that this in the states as a caller
talking and then rush limbaugh will decide to adam
amendment which gave those
right to vote for eighteen year olds
if we're gonna look acclamation ten or fifteen years and pack
elsewhere the problem started
we would not have i mean the dynamic were set up to have somebody that missus
bush get elected uh... you got to do one better than that
well you know what big
when women got the right to vote on it all went downhill
because that's that's one of our started being cast with emotion
and the maternal
instincts that government or to reflect
well you know before twenty one
uh... they're only financial
mink the caller
is almost stunned he isn't even out of responses like a two-second blank space
there
because the caller actually might have some some serious uh...
information some serious points to go over and robbie distrust this ridiculous
bomb
that the caller a personal invite me
lamar races presumably a listener
and uh...
and he's just shocked
army buddy says things like this all the time nothing is right what what evidence
do we have to suggest that this is a really what limbaugh things when he says
it's a joke and a bit there's of course nothing in rush limbaugh's history that
the jesse's misogynistic
always and what about that than we recall that woman slot a couple months
ago
xams optimistic
why stop there though the real problems began when black people weren't even
considered real people that's when i will be one of our problems began when
we recognize black people as one whole person list
what's going on for
so what was the apology like
it was just that it was a joke
but it doesn't sound like a child there's nothing joking about it and he's
actually making a case you think
he's making actually a really specific case that a lot of these republicans
make which is
women vote with the motion
men vote with logic
and then women vote with maternal instincts where the country should be
taking care of people
whereas of course men never do stuff like that in this is just the gender
divide when it comes to voting
so but this logic
many republicans in women are democrats yet what you know what actually
is that a conservative women or socialist it is true that women uh...
tend to vote democratic slightly more than than white men do but nato
who doesn't
compared to that white men voting graph of the group
underneath on a show
south carolina's broadband that yes they want to test drinks once you've passed
the security checkpoint up a little weird
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let's get right into my interview with dennis campbell we spoke with dennis
just minutes ago s before the start of today's show
it's thursday dennis campbell is with us for worldview dennis campbell he's
editor in chief of u_k_ progressive magazine
he is decked out in olympic we're galia and we are closing in on the twenty
twelve summer olympics
uh... dennis in the u_s_ we've been hearing a lot of talk now about mit
romney interestingly enough and his working and taking over
the salt lake city olympics uh... and which he claims to be a big big
accomplishment
and i got some interesting email saying you know it's interesting because during
the olympics
very often people talk about the great economic impact of of having olympic
games there
five and ten years after the fact often is actually very negative economic
repercussions from all of that infrastructure that was built for just
you know a month of of sporting events top us a little bit about
what's going on financially it with the u_k_ game
well financially utilities have been at the train wreck
the budgeted nine
billion pounds which is about fourteen you have
billion plus dollars to build everything to put that into perspective
the games that were hosted in beijing
came in with watching about forty union
u_s_ dollars so are already we were doing this on the cheek to begin with
they also have a right to control of the facility i would say probably three
months ago
just at the point there were about to have the stadium over to the olympic
authorities uh... they have a lot of building committee has been focused on
all the menus and the number of purpose-built
venues all across olympic park you have the velodrome which is really quite
spectacular this room of menu the uh... the brand new stadium all of those are
purpose-built interestingly enough
he basketball arena
will literally be dismantled the day after the games friendships
required brick to brazil index rose city again
now with the nine billion dollars that was budgeted there now so there were
about twelve ability to be pounds troubling times posted at
sixteen billion pounds of the significantly over budget
but what was expected at a time when we see a cutback actually just announced
today that three our hearts specialist hospitals are about to be close national
health site and everything has been four
the olympics because that's the big splash international it's a big media
slash
a lot of cutbacks in a lot of austerity including areas such as police and fire
uh... is happening here yeah i wonder if there is no it's obvious when it when
the game here taking place
you have travel companies hotels are completely booked of course restaurants
transportation within the city all these different things do really well but i am
curious after the fact what are the panel asking
economic impact could could one olympic games really bruised tourism through the
area forty years for a decade
i don't know it's it's been an interesting thing to think about what
the long-term economic effect for the city of having the games there
into dad has always been tourist destinations lots of different reasons
was very history great theater
uh... people come to the this place is a destination to begin with the question
is is helping with the incremental increase the a couple of years ago we
hosted the ryder cup here in wales and the way it was sold by the local
government was that
we need to spend this fifty one million pounds roughly eighty million dollars
to boost up
you know the infrastructure but in fact most of that money they've gotten
absolutely no overturned on look at it in comparing it to use out
are you gonna see a lot of the same sort of thing to have facilities
you have a a couple status be left over your of low-cost housing which is what
you're looking for them to be converted into a
but they certainly in the time of of governmental starting with a cutting
back on
every possible service conceivable uh... not wise to be spending so much money
plus they've changed old lanes in the streets of the their olympic v_i_p_
lanes only so we have ambulances came right up and down
uses positively sir
double-standard jurors that the divided in terms of classic the amount of money
that's going to be spend on corporate venues including the the names had
sitting here for adidas logo they've shut down parts of shutdown all kinds of
of of businesses that have tried to
you know say come here and watch your pixel on in okinawa pulp uh... the
intellectual property police out being enormous force and you have to ask
yourself if so what's the real benefit would be to local communities local
establishments was people will come
and they get that don't have to kids to go to the events
and we had a huge ticket samples of blood people don't even know
because it is that they purchase they actually going to be any good once again
to get some like
four billion
pounds in tickets out there
on questionable bypasses to be quite interesting to see only executed yahoo
hasn't been sold the fake picket outside fenway park turning into a stocking
keith haring that when i can sympathize with
they're real quick dennis what's the talk a little bit about
the died a little bit of tension maybe that's not the right word
around the timing of the olympics relative to ramadan
well you know that's that is a significant flame issue here because we
do have
they very large shell muslim population in around london
and the fact that ramadan below the thirty day of fasting
all holiday very highest level of holidays for muslims
six place like in the middle
of of delivers self they're saying that this was a rather insensitive to the
schedule of course was done using bats
why somebody could also take a look at the account of the senate
you know this is going to be a potential issue we've got the tour de france
which will run during the first week of the that we will conclude during the
first week of a we've just finished european company iso there's a lot of
pressure on people
to to really uh...
sort of putting aside and just focus on the olympics at a time when people are
really gonna be focusing on over issues as well
alright dennis campbell and they're in chief of u_k_ progressive magazine the
book is inject unshackled
thanks as always dot
i got in the email
from curacao telling me an incredibly disturbing story less about fox news and
i'm gonna tell to you
and i this is probably not a story for children i would say
charisma says are you ever around people who would return that we believe every
single ridiculous thing foxnews says but isn't aware that you completely disagree
so they're unusually candid
here's what i see the majority of people i know in all aspects of my life are
that person
i was in the progress of podcasts and it's refreshing to hear non conspiracy
conservative crap
but you did it downplay how far the fox news crowd is gone
or maybe you just didn't realize
here's the story
take the situation my sister mentioned wanting to move out she's twenty three
and i step mom's response with the polar aside and plead with her display because
quote
obama and what he's doing
things in politics they're going to get so bad you just can't believe we need to
stick together
just wait six months please at least work-life the lady here we can make it
anyway i wanted to do alert you in the event that you didn't know keep up the
good work
that's a that somebody who's really fired up and it is sad for chris's sake
because it is hers that mom and and it's a system that is influencing
that's what some people believe they literally believe that because brock
obama is the president in the next six months
you're going to be fewer if you don't live with your family
you might never see them again because the world is simply going to fall apart
this is like uh... apocalyptic stuff it is intended to relieve years formal
sense to me like it's an like it's borderline is schizophrenic well that's
the thing
is that really is so is it is it's saying are you saying
mentally
if you believe that because the president is a democrat right now
in six months
you and itne kitne we might see the apocalypse you need to have your family
close
your stepdaughter can't move out
because
because it means in politics and that things in politics and just how bad it's
going to get
honestly
i don't know that there's that much of a distinction between vat
and paranoid delusions of of the kind that would be medicaid limits on what do
you think is that that much of a difference between what this woman
saying
and a at at at the stake textbook paranoid delusion
world uh... certainly did makes absolutely no sense given the situation
here in the u_s_
but there are many other countries and many historical moment that we can point
to
where it was reasonable the think that
based on what was going on politically in the country you might not get to see
your family again
for a long period of time that actually has been the case this is not the case
in the u_s_ no totally absurd and it's always loses foxnews convincing people
that that's what's going on and it certainly has nothing to do with
president obama
whatever risks you believe there are two years that dot correct
the other just another foxnews no while we're on the topic
there was a story from the washington times that fox news
repo stood on their website
let's put the picture of the time to show people what pictured they thought
would be a good one to go with its story from the washington times that obama on
immigration
and as you can see louis
they've titled it old bombers amnesty needed set in motion
and the picture that goes with it
what else would you put up there if it's a story about obama and immigration
you put a guy dressed and what what used to be stereotypical mexican mariachi
costume
and climbing wall of the back
anna rock climbing on the back the end of the rock climbing walls about
but that islamic fences that's what people see
when they think about immigration apparently and you watch fox news you
assume its of its related to people who are mariachi it almost exclusively
well we're off to the pictures that and by the way
is all mexicans do is play in mariachi bands why are you worried about them
taking your jobs i don't see too many americans how are you that anybody who's
in the marriott she began her other than in mexico myself
is very very odd uh... but uh...
argues all were always seem really
is another picture with with present obama eating a watermelon to fully
roundout
the racist stereotypes that seem to be so prevalent on right wing media
it's it's inouye it's funny but in a way it's sad because so many people were
looking at this and not even
putting those pieces together they just assumed that is what we're talking about
immigration were talking about maximilian you guys
woodhouse
yet some birth
all right but they could bring facebook dot com slash david packard show a lot
more still to talk about on the show
we will talk about uh... whether liberals should embrace corporate
influence in politics and try to use it to their advantage and so much more
stated
david hackman shelves and david jacqueline dot com
welcome back to the david adventure
welcome back to the day the packers are joining the is bill share from liberal
oasis dot com campaign for america's future bill was recently filling in for
lou s and
some people may be surprised if ian back so soon but he had a great
accomplishment of having an editorial published in the new york times on
sunday and the editorials interesting because
and correct me if i'm wrong bill i would paraphrase as saying you make the case
that may be
democrats should as opposed to
criticizing the effect of corporate influence on politics
embrace it and do everything they can to get corporations to help push
progressive politics and i somewhat close on that
close up
quite like that it's not that i'm saying that quickly influence is awesome
and we should and we should present i'd say let's let's be big boys and girls
and recognize that you is
ities s
it has always existed
uh... ad
the great liberal what she means had been uh... dot my prayer dissidents who
who looked extremely i did and did hard bargaining with corporations
and did it go and do it saying
uh... i_d_ doing extinguish this or eliminated
is that that would prefer to try to do that
now really do they lose the battle they often lose the war two and i think
in particular of bill clinton health care
and jimmy carter
and energy
uh... win
they tried it
just take god those corporate interests had a
italian to get the bills that they wanted
but they set their own political capital
uh... vay scared of all our politicians are giving with that issue for for more
than a decade
and they'd be crippled their own ability to
implement other progressive reforms because they were so damaged
whereas when you look at f_d_r_ toby j even though we we could talk about them
as if they
uh... it never it looked like stitch in fact there are several instances where
they
they could give the corporations to get there from the door moved the ball
forward
and that helped build momentum for more progress reform offered time
right when you talk about new deal legislation and the united states
chamber of commerce playing up about at least
playing a role in that
uh... the thing i would question though is a lot of these organizations the
chamber of commerce is an interesting one
specifically that organization i don't know that today you're going to be able
to get them to help push any kind of of legislation that goes on the left would
be interested in because that organization itself has changed
well eye-to-eye probably change but
knowledge of the the chamber of commerce hell
f_d_r_ pass his recovery act
they help the bottle passes recovery act
arielle looked at their their copy resume the recovery act there are more
e-business tax-cut ucts
perhaps you and i would want to have seen
you can make a case that it mean for a week erbil you to make the case and if
you have recovery act was weaker because of the concessions he made to the
chamber baghdad
or certainly better off that debt they got done
uh... and the risk of not having that corporate support having
unified corporate opposition is there is the don't get a bill at all
and he didn't have any kind a recovery act
for the first hundred days relive every country active obama's first
jude's both situations might get a whole lot different than what we're seeing
today yet you know i think it
i don't disagree with the content of the editorial my question though is more
one of is it politically even feasible to say well
i think
the influence of corporations and money in politics is really really bad and i
would like to see it eliminated
for now instead of working towards that and if they do everything i can
to get whatever benefit i can from the fact that corporations and money are
huge influence on politics in other words is it possible to straddle the
line both the usertier advantage for now
think eliminate the influence of money in politics or do you have to just pick
one strategy of the other
uh... s earlier i don't work might might concern where the motivations of writing
pieces that we were going to you for the other way
that people on the left have gotten so frustrated and so cynical that there's a
this system is fundamentally broke in nothing we want is going to happen until
we find a way to eradicate this is generally which regular week really do
that is through a constitutional amendment you can try to sort of work or
arabs but
iprental get your very far
if you have that attitude that there's something uniquely awful about today
that wasn't rude f_d_r_ to l_b_j_ when i think your store we're on the look they
have t_r_ reid is that it was getting any camp i found it regulations
whatsoever really
the body of money about back that
uh... and uh... an f_b_i_ nobody found a way
uh... so if if we put all that this is all of that you are
the possibility i would say pop pretty decent possibility
finding common ground on climate change on immigrate
and on infrastructure a steady job creation all areas like argues there's
been severely groundwork laid aidid
four such a compromise if you put that aside and and and chase the
constitutional amendment but that is a
idec eight long project
answer tissues prickly jobs crisis and climate you know that's underway
so you gotta find a way
that you know
tected
take the bullet
he's democrats delegate aparna retreat we got the roll over here you know
what's it like that you're right and we explore
it they're going going more after the support of corporations
don't you think that because particularly because of the fiscal
policies that republicans support that if both parties to say let's just both
go after the support of corporations republicans are going to win most of
those doubts
arms races and so in other words the the policies that republicans
propose or that support when it comes to finances
are much more attractive to most big corporations than those of progressive
so while you cite historically a number of of times that that progressive
movements have been able to get the support of corporations are republicans
just going to win that support take it away from democrats in other words given
the choice why wouldn't corporations support republican policy more than
democratic policy all this this is the this is that you are a part of your head
uh... because the year
e anyway
f_d_r_ falcon program with corporations right
in they did not cover corporations
this ticket without you know corp raised as a thank you very much let's let's do
this was just again sometime exactly
you know they they take a step back afterwards very take i do if i don't
dispute that uh... so you you can't do this in a nine year away i think that
there could be your best friends they're not uh... but
uh... if u
combat it would be acted up there is no way and ever going to find
are opening
to peace began to the coalition's gonna get read get the villain acted
i_d_ gonna miss out on some big opportunities a review of the clinton
history opportunity
might not say they are the insurance industry they the there at the zoo she
misses asking for meetings
anyone getting a little bit said
five forget it we're done heart families on you and they just blew that you apart
uh... an obama had divert approach saying i know we don't get a lot to say
early i know we have a lot of bad blood between my party in your industry
the let's find a way at attic world better off because you've divided
because they really don't like i think that i don't like these i think for a
perfect
it did the keeping its
it's better to do that in perfect deal
and bill dot over time
which usually is what happens
then to uh... be totally uh...
uh... rigid
analytical in that case you ted that wait for a very very long time would you
get back to the table
to do
de klerk deal anyway yet as we saw with health care perfectly sample which you
say in the uh... in the peace
okay bill share liberal oasis dot com campaign for america's future
uh... i am i'm very split about this editorial i have to say that in the
point you're making a really good
this is something that to a lot of progressives will feel ron about trying
to work hand-in-hand with corporation
i'm not six five
and i think that those are not doing it
all right thanks bill
daycare we'll take a break you back with more after this
david's actually see uh...
indeed happened dot com
this david jack mentions at david packard dot com a new study says that
spanking increases the five mental illness both with the some of these
uh... numbers here recent they have acquired by canadian researchers says
people who were hit
perspective children
face higher odds of mental illness as adults including moon and anxiety
disorders and problems with alcohol
and drug abuse
people who were spanked or hit as kids were between two and seven percent more
likely to encounter mental issues later
said the research in the journal of pediatrics based on a retrospective
survey of six hundred more than six hundred u_s_ but
while thirty two nations
around the world the band corporal punishment of kids the u_s_ and canada
have not
i don't buy that this is a direct
correlation necessary rather is the causation we're seeing the correlation
but i don't know the food houses about causation
and that's how i had a theory about this actually as to why saying
maybe it's more about
heredity connected to what parents are more likely to do the spanking pregnant
on explain that to us
but we can hear amid all of your fingers micah yeah because unit
uh... i mean uh... oh
lightest the plan would make is that
it's it's possible that there are other factors that would explain why these
would be correlated like for example obviously this might not be the case but
it's just the possibility
that if the parents
are the type of people if the type of person that thing
is more
uh...
prone to being mentally ill
so follow that may be their children whether they're spanked or not just
being biological children of people like that by her daddy
exactly what should be interesting to see if adopted children whose biological
parents
are like this if the correlation persists with them the other thing lewis
is that when you're saying this is based on around six hundred people
and that it's two two seven percent more likely
those numbers are not striking me as that powerful
yeah this is suction
luminoso you're on that front
when you talk about ps you know statistical significance that's a huge
number when you're talking about the entire population
we're we're talking about six hundred people what i'm saying is if it apply
pretty big sample
if it applied to the whole population it would be pretty simple what i'm saying
is it's very common that you have a pop a local call
with eleven are around eleven or twelve hundred respondents
within margin margin for error of three percent
okay will i mean if the study was done well then it's going to be s you know of
small margin of error
we just don't have that information i think the sample was is really small
anaheim we agree with dave on this one uh...
i don't like that that percentage is just not
concrete enough
all right let me know what you think about this arnelle you tell me
but g_o_p_ congressional candidate chris collins says people now don't die from
prostate cancer
breast cancer
she knows healthcare is expensive these days but he's arguing that it's very
good reason which is that a lot of people just aren't dying anymore from
some deadly forms of cancer of course that's not
true at all
now what he told the batavia in an interview that was flagged on tuesday by
city and state new york he said quote
people now don't dry
from prostate cancer
breast cancer
and some of the other thing
the fact of the matter is our health care today so much better living so much
longer because of innovations of drug development
surgical procedures stands implantable cardiac defibrillators meryl stimulators
that didn't exist ten years ago
the increase in cost is not because doctors are making a lot more money it's
what you can get for health care extending your life in curing diseases
this is patently absurd
now i wanna take a piece by piece first is the issue of let's assume he was
saying people no longer died of prostate cancer breast cancer not true about
forty thousand deaths per year from breast cancer about twenty eight
thousand deaths per year from prostate cancer according to the american cancer
society
yeah summer people settle some people are arguing that what he meant to say
was
many people
now don't die from those things before because of better care whereas in the
past
almost all of them did that doesn't mean no one dies and those things it just
means we can find that some people don't die from these conditions
if that's what he meant he should just be better waiting list
right now number two
the other idea
that that increase in the cost of health care
is because people are just getting a total
treatment that is just so much better now
that's not true that may be true if you have a lot of money to spend on health
care bill for a lot of people that's not true at all the cost is high and they
can afford
embarrassed by that same logic if that's true
then the cost of health care will continue to rise for ever
as but there are advancements in health care this is totally bozo turnover
republicans find these guys collins is challenging congresswoman kathy hotel
who's a democrat from new york who has chosen a special election in may of two
thousand eleven
uh... i don't understand how this this this is the best that republicans could
come up with in that district
disappointing
but uh...
pretty common right yes i would say stuff yet
all right let's get your voicemail and email are worthwhile line is open twenty
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david p two one nine two david p
hears a voice mail about google
and privacy of paramount concern to a lot of people
uh...
even more program ought uh... that google search engine plant pago smoker
evil manicure everything they partner with the c_i_a_ to create a company
called recorded futures so i think
i wouldn't trust and thus far if i could grow up
argued for search engine and all that the libraries use it's called x quick
are it's not a commercial launch and all are very few third based in europe
aren't they they don't keep track of any kind and they dumped their data uh...
they drop their uh...
then every uh... every everyday
so they result by eric here you are c_k_ dot com populist g_r_u_ exit exclude and
daily data dumps
uh... i've never heard of it um...
but i totally support it
but do you believe google is evil at the stone throwers
gruel is a huge company
makes me believe that there's a high chance they're evil
yes but that was under a big corporations by definition evil just
because the big
well they're not
evil because they're big they're evil because their capitalist
organization that has some basic interest namely profit mind so they'll
do things that might seem to someone as immoral because they're looking for a
profit so it's the profit motive that will make the naval not
and he sort of predetermined morality and the nature of this business itself
i look at the center emails on c_ pac wonder boy turning liberal
in spite of myself i have to admit i found his initial speech kind adorable
something about that newsweek voice may be one of pinches cheeks i'm not
surprised he grew out of his rabid conservatism
use a little boy he was irritate imitating adult in his life he's matured
and learn to think
more critically and it would appear that there is an inverse relationship between
mr maturity and intelligence
and conservatism
some people think that
on mit romney being vegas a campaign strategy it didn't work for reagan but
he did have it easy following jimmy carter
it will not work for mit romney
okay will continue to see
and on anderson cooper announcing that he is gay is this an issue should be an
issue is as positive negative what is it
anderson is another example that not all gay people are the same
and he doesn't perpetuated stereotypes associated with who gay people are or
act like
or should be
which is all positive
and clue me in
is water wet the chicago dangerous is the sky blue of course anderson cooper
is gay
and another person also saying hey this is kind of obvious in other news wesley
snipes announced that he's black
so yeah i mean
the issue was whether anybody gala today anderson cooper was getting it was
widely known in this photograph with his boyfriend but not identify decides
it's more about the conversation we were having was more about is a positive or
negative
will being gay
is something you announce
and that it's discussed that that was really the question we had
yet uh... i wonder about his own motivations i mean i think it's
obviously a good thing that he did what you have to ask why didn't he do it
sooner
was a for personal reasons did the network not wanting to do that for
certain reasons a lot of questions
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