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I will now tell our viewers that we tried to contact the official MISA spokesman
with those who are still working in Romania for the Movement for Spiritual Integration into the Absolute
but unfortunately they didn't answer the phone.
And now I'll ask you to tell me what bets you're talking about.
In spring 2008 the International Yoga Federation excluded them, so all the MISA branches
- Romanian MISA and its international branches… - They're a sort of yogi pariahs…
...were excluded from this International Yoga Federation and the European Yoga Alliance because they were involved in the sex business.
and on this occasion Bivolaru made, no more nor less, but three bets with an ex-MISA instructor from Austria,
- ...each time on 100 000 euros if I remember correctly... - That's a lot of money.
Once because she accused him that MISA makes *** films, once because she said he spread STDs; and another thing, I can't remember what.
Is MISA a cover for prostitution?
Well, how about I don't answer that, but tell you what the president of the European Yoga Alliance, which also excluded them from the Federation, said.
He told Bivolaru clearly, answering him on the yahoo group of the Yoga Federation, that Bivolaru was merely a„vulgar sex business man“
who uses yoga and the International Yoga Federation for his business.
- That means that a lot of women are in danger right now. - Exactly.
- I'm talking about female MISA adepts who still believe in the guru. - That's why I do what I do.
Not so much for the MISA adepts inside, because, honestly, it's hard to get out of their heads what he put in.
- You can only show them information in which you tell them that… - Yes, but…
- ...that Yoga doesn't have anything to do with what is being done there... -...if they're so indoctrinated can you still...
You can hardly reach them. They don't... So everything the guru does is divine, is integrated, he knows the supreme truth.
You can't reason with them. So I don't...
I couldn't talk to my old friends because I'm seen as a pariah since I talk about things that they don't want those outside of MISA to know.
I'd like you to tell me about another controversial practice, urinotherapy, from Bivolaru's point of view.
- What would be the benefits of drinking urine, so to say... what that means. - Well the point of view presented by Bivolaru and MISA is not their point of view.
Both in the East and the West, urinotherapy is something, even if controversial, is something known.
Since about the '90s, I heard about urinotherapy before MISA, from a book published in Germany, there was a series of radio shows about it.
Of course, as I've said, it's controversial. Some say it's not alright, others say they were cured, that their skin is softer, that they got rid of calluses or whatnot.
MISA published a tantric treatise, Damar Tantra, in which parenthetically speaking, Grieg introduced a random mantra that was pretty much nonsensical....
- He's generous. - And around that paragraph he put some of the original text in which nothing like that was written.
Right, I'll tell our audience that during the next few days we will continue our disclosures.
Another important former MISA member will join our discussion and we will continue this series.
- Can I say something else or is there no time left? - Please. Very shortly.
I wasn't an important MISA member.
I was a normal instructor, actually one that didn't correspond with the standards for female instructors in MISA
and I didn't personally participate in any secret tantric initiations.
That is what you have told us from the very beginning. Thank you, Cecilia, we will continue this discussion during the next few days.