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radiation detectors the symbol of ernest just about
radiation detectors a dallas fort worth in chicago o'hare airports
were triggered today when passengers and flight sister it in tokyo pastor customs
bring the new york post
tessa dallas fort worth indicated low radiation levels intrepid travellers
luggage
and in the aircraft's
filtration
the cabin filtration systems
paul gunter is with us
paul is the director of reactor oversight at the on nuclear beyond
nuclear dot org is the website paul welcome back to the program
and thank you for having me program so in flights from
from chelsea al
are showing up with people who are carrying
particles presumably
of radioactive material radioactive dust to particles even finer than dust
on them
that indicates what to you
well uh... it i think the first indication that they know we kind of
camping before word nuclear like and that they have had a poem
were nuclear workers who have working in the carpet they come out and basically
can motel or a day of the u_n_ then they declined radioactive particular
diplomatic motel i hadn't seen that happen before
word contamination from
rar workers would have done this but here that uh...
people are coming out of japan that doesn't surprise me did with radioactive
contamination now what about the closet setting
this wave from
i mean just the prevailing wind
um... radio theatre these are going to be of increasing concern as the nuclear
accident continued spiral out of control but were particularly concerned about
that unit
and it's a plutonium oxide
or reactor
which is just charcoal of plutonium sunny within the deadly sounds on earth
and one of the most powerful
already senators
as at my head on my crime level
another also articles of a small that
he could easily fit really kind of air filtration device or
yeah improvement that micron level clear-cutting size of a virus basically
out of hand were to do it by the unit three has
drum cond
of plutonium archetype killed i'd like to call it
mixed occupied or markets but in fact its plutonium oxide or pocket
dismisses goes on it
but that that's
yesenia remark sides and
nother oxides in plutonium oxide yeah compact and chromium grouping odiaum
being
so carter carteret they put it back in your flash bulb in the net
that that's not good for the chicago team that goes off and flashbulbs
inkatha used in high explosive
and we have
plutonium oxide uh... you god bless you all
packed in jericho ny m
two hundred and hundred at the front of the in unit three
now you see that's really only mocks react to the only thing sunny m based
reactor roller instances pulsation uranium reactors if they are you're it
does other buycanada r_d_
enriched uranium probability of
plutonium are but i don't have the lower melting temperature but you know i i i
can never to have an incredibly
unparalleled ended targeted
competitor
boiling was our was their answer noble
was that mocks her was that this consensus moral uranium they would you
repeat that when richard rainey inc
uranium it does generate plutonium
as small as stark yet but it won't let me know darkened tremendous amounts of
plutonium
independent where they're now visioning plutonium
and uranium as part of the fuel
byproduct right
right and so there's there's there's intentionally high levels of plutonium
avery find out the plutonium
presumably from recycled unclear waste and weapons
somewhat insulted
and and then put that into the into their reactor and that reactor number
three is the one that everybody's freaked out about because of that and is
that data is the does reacted three also have a waste
the re-air radioactive waste
four on the top of it like the others do and is that cool full of of plutonium as
well
monday containment
and uh... in there's a big in a right now and
who have been wary of your being pictures one of the helicopters flying
over trying to drop water
and the water is dissipated
but better to have been attending anything on the market
injury economically
already advocating
desperate these are all that
ditch measures right now but
uh... still holding out hope doctor john died at the nation's
idiocy once before back in the seventies i corresponded link the doctor john
kaufman who at that time was one of the
experts of the evening of concerned scientists i think he might and one of
the guys who helped start it
and he wrote huge home book on the impact of radiation on humans he was
like the world's leading expert on
went into power
exactly down
means and what he said to me was that one ounce of plutonium if it was
properly distributed
which would be damn near impossible but if you've if you could he'll truly
disperse into the atmosphere
it until everybody
and in all humans is it just takes it just takes one or two particles in your
lungs of plutonium and it the you know it's such a powerful
in their of what is it
alpha again gamma beta and accept no without hope this mail phone again
literally appear that you you know that the concern is about inhalation does not
uh... move
and it is uh... a uh... very very it's very very toxic
sales taxes
yes uh... ended and
twenty four thousand your half-life and it we figure ten half-lives as the
measure
four propensity of this uh... so we're talking to return forty thousand years
east or it would be really sad to see if there were numerous down do you know and
again the measure
that we have on the current state of the art of herding cats but
it's um... it's very targeted for a very long
and then perspective two hundred forty thousand years it was only a hundred
sixty-five thousand years ago
that the first humans emerged in africa
i think that's a lot of species has been around three on businesses gone beyond
comprehension and or that so what's gonna happen next to the in your opinion
poll dancer
all we're quite concerned about um... the fact that unit
four or five info six or the next shoes exp did with the were watching to
dropped on
between thirty and the information that is
contradictory and we have the had u_s_ nuclear regulatory commission chair greg
gregory escrow in congressional testimony yesterday
saying there's no longer in the water
in like the oper rooftop spit fuel pool that contain fat
hundreds of tons of of root right away *** leopold actually that they were
going to put that fueled
when they began the maintenance support department quickly took all of the
radioactive cores out of the reactors
they transfer me into those rooftop pool to ought to await wrote the finishing a
maintenance
and debate with bringing up uh... two-thirds of that if you will and put
it back in the reactor control paid before five in conflict render met
maintenance put pork or office loads when the earthquake hit
and now we have a four kore of over a year of you've fuels something outside
of the famous on the roof of a reactor and there is no water because it is set
in the last class wall is that they can bring alexis de end users
identified chance of refers to activities taken a catered to run
transmission but if we don't really understand fortification alone for a
debate conflict because i'd like to have these i think or i think in the world