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Host (Andrei Malakhov): Moscow. The talk show "Pust Govoryat" ("Let them speak"). A terrible tragedy has happened in Moscow yesterday.
Here is this man - 29-years-old lawyer Dmitrij Vinogradov has shot seven of his colleagues’ right in the office, where the killer and his victims worked.
Five people died instantly, one person is in very serious condition at the hospital.
By hands of "Russian Breivik" died: Elena Lapshina, Natalia Plekhanova, Alexander Biryuk, Anton Tretyakov, Denis Moiseev.
This is what the cameras have recorded ON the morning of November 7.
Here is the killer with a huge backpack on his shoulders easily passing by the security post.
Please note that the security are talking to each other, ignoring the suspicious backpack of one of the employees.
Here is the killer in the corridor of the company and then he went to the toilet.
"Russian Breivik" came out from the toilet, he changed his clothes and got armed.
Vinogradov goes to the Department of Finance.
Please note that there is a green mark from the rifle on the floor. The gun had a laser sight.
Those ones who were in the room almost had no chances. Vinogradov killed them all by the shot to the head.
And here are the words which were posted by the killer on the social network some hours before the violence on his colleagues. At 5 AM.
"I hate the human society. I hate the life itself. I see only one way to justify it: to eliminate as many particles of human compost as possible..."
Today we will talk live about what could have caused this tragedy and whether it was possible to stop "Russian Breivik" Dmitrij Vinogradov.
A: ....When we think that we are sitting in the quiet office and nothing can touch us, in fact it can. But once in five years comes "Breivik" and shoots five people.
H: But, Anton, you need to agree.. here is sitting Sasha Rybak from quiet Norway, right? There is silence, clear water and the highest standard of living in the world.
And there is a person, who doesn't take the metro, who has wealthy parents, who has a car and a house, but he takes a gun and kills 77 people. 151 are injured.
And the whole Norway mourns and it is the most important occasion, which has happened in this quiet country for last 100 years, except the Nobel Peace Prize..
A: Tell me, please, are there a lot of people having depression because of that quiet life?
AR: Norway is a very small country. We all knew someone who has died.
And I see almost the same now.. a sick man.. the security doesn't follow the rules.. only.. the most important thing here.. ehmm..
I just hope that people here won't make the same mistake that we made in Norway. It's not before the man has shot innocent people.. but after that..
I see that almost everyone who knew friends or family of victims.. they was afraid to bother them...
We all were thinking: "Oi, probably they need a peace", but it's opposite.. You need to talk with families and friends, you need to care of them.
It is the most important thing now. Don't try.. of course, we all want to find someone who we can blame.. but the most importantly.. just to care of families of victims.
H: It means a tragedy must unite people and people need to look at themselves from the other side, right? How we live and..
AR: He is a sick man. And in Norway Breivik was sick too. But he was an idealist and wanted to change Norway. He wanted .. How is it in Russian..? .. all to get armed.. But we in contrary...
W1: Sasha, he wasn't sick.. Because Breivik was afraid that the examination may recognize him insane.
But the examination recognized him as absolutely healthy and because of that he got 21 years in prison.
He made a crime because of the ideology. He wrote an idealistic manifest with thousands of pages..
AR: Yes, that's true. H: This one has a manifest too.
W: It's an absolutely different story. There is only one page.. It is empty, useless and there is no idea at all..
W2: I wouldn't call it manifest.. It is just nagging of a pained and sick one.. W: Of course
H: Vinogradov explains his terrible deed by unrequited love to Anna Kaznikova.
And we talked to relatives of Anna Kaznikova and they assure that the girl went to the cinema with him only two times.
And Dmitrij constantly was calling to her after that. He wrote emails, sent SMS. He threatened. And relatives even called to the police to calm down Vinogradov.
And Anna Kaznikova is in common-law marriage with other man for last four years.
It's just.. sorry, Alexander Rybak is in the program not by accident, he arrived from Norway.
He was calling me during this week and saying that the crazy girl calls him and says that if he won't date her, she will do something....
W3: Save Rybak! Protect him!
AR: No.. actually.. I'm ashamed now... because now I have a promo-tour, I wrote the song about this girl, made the video. It's a show business for me.
But now I understand that.. wow, such things can happen and she..
H: The question is about that everything can be prevented at different levels, you know...
You wrote the song to calm down the crazy fan, and you say that this is for you and you'll get nothing more from me, but it can be ended in a such way... if it is a true.
AR: She is just.. and again I don't understand.. it's all about parents here, because I don't understand.. if.. she is from Israel..
If her parents.. at least a part of all this money, that they gave to her for travelling to Norway and Sweden for me.. around Europe..
If they would spend a part of all this money for a psychologist.. then it would help me very much.