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>> TUITION, STUDENT LOANS, STATE FUNDING AND GRADUATION RATES ARE
FUNDING AND GRADUATION RATES ARE A FEW TOPICS UNIVERSITIES AND
A FEW TOPICS UNIVERSITIES AND COLLEGES ARE TRYING TO ADDRESS
COLLEGES ARE TRYING TO ADDRESS DURING THIS BUDGET SESSION OF
DURING THIS BUDGET SESSION OF THE INDIANA GENERAL ASSEMBLY.
THE INDIANA GENERAL ASSEMBLY. MANY LEGISLATORS SAY SECONDARY
MANY LEGISLATORS SAY SECONDARY SCHOOLS ARE NOT DOING ENOUGH TO
SCHOOLS ARE NOT DOING ENOUGH TO LOWER TUITION OR STUDENT DEBT.
LOWER TUITION OR STUDENT DEBT. WE'LL DISCUSS THE ISSUES
WE'LL DISCUSS THE ISSUES UNIVERSITIES AND INSTITUTIONS
UNIVERSITIES AND INSTITUTIONS ARE FACING AS WE PUT HIGHER
ARE FACING AS WE PUT HIGHER EDUCATION IN FOCUS.
>> THANKS FOR JOINING US FOR THIS EDITION OF InFOCUS.
THIS EDITION OF InFOCUS. I'M STAN JASTRZEBSKI.
I'M STAN JASTRZEBSKI. HIGHER EDUCATION INSTITUTIONS
HIGHER EDUCATION INSTITUTIONS ARE SEEKING ADDITIONAL FUNDING
ARE SEEKING ADDITIONAL FUNDING FROM THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY THIS
FROM THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY THIS SESSION, BUT LEGISLATORS ARE
SESSION, BUT LEGISLATORS ARE ASKING FOR SEVERAL CONCESSIONS
ASKING FOR SEVERAL CONCESSIONS IN RETURN.
IN RETURN. WTIU'S GRETCHEN FRAZEE REPORTS
WTIU'S GRETCHEN FRAZEE REPORTS ON SOME OF THE KEY ISSUES THAT
ON SOME OF THE KEY ISSUES THAT ARE UP FOR DISCUSSION THIS YEAR.
>> UNIVERSITIES ARE GETTING MORE DOLLARS FROM THE LEGISLATURE
DOLLARS FROM THE LEGISLATURE THAN EVER BEFORE...
THAN EVER BEFORE... ABOUT $1.7 BILLION THIS YEAR,
ABOUT $1.7 BILLION THIS YEAR, BUT THE PERCENTAGE OF
BUT THE PERCENTAGE OF FUNDING FROM THE STATE HAS
FUNDING FROM THE STATE HAS ACTUALLY DECLINED AS SCHOOLS'
ACTUALLY DECLINED AS SCHOOLS' BUDGETS HAVE EXPANDED.
BUDGETS HAVE EXPANDED. THAT COULD CHANGE THIS YEAR
THAT COULD CHANGE THIS YEAR BECAUSE OF THE BUDGET SURPLUS,
BECAUSE OF THE BUDGET SURPLUS, SAYS SENATE APPROPRIATIONS
SAYS SENATE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN LUKE KENLEY.
COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN LUKE KENLEY. >> THIS YEAR FOR THE FIRST TIME
>> THIS YEAR FOR THE FIRST TIME IN FIVE OR SIX YEARS, THE STATE
IN FIVE OR SIX YEARS, THE STATE MAY BE IN A LITTLE BETTER
MAY BE IN A LITTLE BETTER POSITION TO GIVE UNIVERSITIES
POSITION TO GIVE UNIVERSITIES OPERATING FUNDING.
OPERATING FUNDING. WE EVEN HAD TO CUT A COUPLE OF
WE EVEN HAD TO CUT A COUPLE OF TIMES.
TIMES. AND WE ARE HOPING THAT WHEN WE
AND WE ARE HOPING THAT WHEN WE DO THAT WE CAN GET THE
DO THAT WE CAN GET THE UNIVERSITIES TO AGREE NOT TO
UNIVERSITIES TO AGREE NOT TO RAISE TUITION BEYOND A CERTAIN
RAISE TUITION BEYOND A CERTAIN POINT, SAY, THE COST OF LIVING.
POINT, SAY, THE COST OF LIVING. >> HOW MUCH MONEY THEY WILL
>> HOW MUCH MONEY THEY WILL RECEIVE IS STILL UP FOR
RECEIVE IS STILL UP FOR DISCUSSION.
DISCUSSION. GOVERNOR MIKE PENCE PROPOSED A
GOVERNOR MIKE PENCE PROPOSED A 1% INCREASE IN HIGHER EDUCATION
1% INCREASE IN HIGHER EDUCATION FUNDING LAST WEEK.
FUNDING LAST WEEK. BUT THAT'S SIGNIFICANTLY BELOW
BUT THAT'S SIGNIFICANTLY BELOW THE 7% INCREASE THE COMMISSION
THE 7% INCREASE THE COMMISSION FOR HIGHER EDUCATION
FOR HIGHER EDUCATION RECOMMENDED.
RECOMMENDED. AND SOME LEGISLATORS WANT TO PUT
AND SOME LEGISLATORS WANT TO PUT STIPULATIONS ON THE FUNDING IN
STIPULATIONS ON THE FUNDING IN ADDITION TO MAKING SCHOOLS
ADDITION TO MAKING SCHOOLS PROMISE TO STABILIZE TUITION
PROMISE TO STABILIZE TUITION RATES.
RATES. STATE SENATOR JIM BANKS SAYS
STATE SENATOR JIM BANKS SAYS BEFORE THE STATE GIVES
BEFORE THE STATE GIVES UNIVERSITIES AND COLLEGES MORE
UNIVERSITIES AND COLLEGES MORE MONEY, THE INSTITUTIONS SHOULD
MONEY, THE INSTITUTIONS SHOULD BE MORE TRANSPARENT ABOUT
BE MORE TRANSPARENT ABOUT HOW THAT MONEY IS USED.
HOW THAT MONEY IS USED. >> EVEN THOUGH THE PERCENT IS
>> EVEN THOUGH THE PERCENT IS LESS TODAY OF WHAT THE STATE
LESS TODAY OF WHAT THE STATE FUNDS OF THEIR TOTAL BUDGET,
FUNDS OF THEIR TOTAL BUDGET, HOOSIER TAXPAYERS STILL PROVIDE
HOOSIER TAXPAYERS STILL PROVIDE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS EVERY
BILLIONS OF DOLLARS EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS TO OUR
COUPLE OF YEARS TO OUR UNIVERSITIES TO BUILD
UNIVERSITIES TO BUILD BUILDINGS, AND AS HOOSIERS WE
BUILDINGS, AND AS HOOSIERS WE SHOULD EXPECT MORE OUT OF THAT
SHOULD EXPECT MORE OUT OF THAT INVESTMENT THAN PERHAPS
INVESTMENT THAN PERHAPS WE'RE GETTING.
WE'RE GETTING. >> STUDENT LOANS ARE ALSO A HOT
>> STUDENT LOANS ARE ALSO A HOT TOPIC THIS SESSION.
TOPIC THIS SESSION. STUDENTS ARE GRADUATING WITH
STUDENTS ARE GRADUATING WITH MORE DEBT THAN EVER BEFORE AND
MORE DEBT THAN EVER BEFORE AND THEY AREN'T NECESSARILY USING
THEY AREN'T NECESSARILY USING THAT MONEY ON TUITION, KENLEY
THAT MONEY ON TUITION, KENLEY SAYS.
SAYS. >> WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE
>> WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT DEBT THAT STUDENTS TAKE ON
THAT DEBT THAT STUDENTS TAKE ON IS USED FOR EDUCATION.
IS USED FOR EDUCATION. THERE ARE SOME STORIES, AND THEY
THERE ARE SOME STORIES, AND THEY MAY BE JUST THAT, THAT PEOPLE
MAY BE JUST THAT, THAT PEOPLE ARE BORROWING MONEY AND USING IT
ARE BORROWING MONEY AND USING IT FOR THINGS OTHER THAN EDUCATION.
FOR THINGS OTHER THAN EDUCATION. SO I THINK WE WILL PROBABLY BE
SO I THINK WE WILL PROBABLY BE TIGHTENING THOSE STANDARDS
TIGHTENING THOSE STANDARDS UP A LITTLE BIT.
UP A LITTLE BIT. >> THE LUMINA FOUNDATION'S VICE
>> THE LUMINA FOUNDATION'S VICE PRESIDENT OF POLICY & STRATEGY
PRESIDENT OF POLICY & STRATEGY DEWAYNE MATTHEWS SAYS
DEWAYNE MATTHEWS SAYS THERE ARE MANY LEGITIMATE
THERE ARE MANY LEGITIMATE EXPENSES BESIDES TUITION THAT
EXPENSES BESIDES TUITION THAT STUDENT LOANS SHOULD BE USED
STUDENT LOANS SHOULD BE USED FOR.
FOR. HE SAYS THAT'S SOMETHING THAT
HE SAYS THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED AT THE
SHOULD BE ADDRESSED AT THE UNIVERSITY LEVEL.
UNIVERSITY LEVEL. >> THAT'S PART OF THE ADVISING
>> THAT'S PART OF THE ADVISING AND COUNSELING THAT STUDENTS
AND COUNSELING THAT STUDENTS NEED TO BE ABLE TO MAKE VERY
NEED TO BE ABLE TO MAKE VERY GOOD, INFORMED INTELLIGENT
GOOD, INFORMED INTELLIGENT CHOICES ABOUT PAYING FOR
CHOICES ABOUT PAYING FOR COLLEGE.
COLLEGE. IF WE MAKE THIS AID AVAILABLE
IF WE MAKE THIS AID AVAILABLE AND WE DON'T PROVIDE GUIDANCE,
AND WE DON'T PROVIDE GUIDANCE, IT CAN CREATE PROBLEMS.
IT CAN CREATE PROBLEMS. >> THERE ARE MANY OTHER ISSUES
>> THERE ARE MANY OTHER ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED, BUT
THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED, BUT MATTHEWS SAYS THE KEY IS WHETHER
MATTHEWS SAYS THE KEY IS WHETHER ENOUGH STUDENTS CAN GET THE
ENOUGH STUDENTS CAN GET THE EDUCATION THEY NEED TO CREATE A
EDUCATION THEY NEED TO CREATE A PRODUCTIVE WORKFORCE.
PRODUCTIVE WORKFORCE. >> THERE IS OVERWHELMING
>> THERE IS OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE THAT PEOPLE AND MANY
EVIDENCE THAT PEOPLE AND MANY MANY MORE PEOPLE NEED SECONDARY.
MANY MORE PEOPLE NEED SECONDARY. AND THE STATE AS A WHOLE AND THE
AND THE STATE AS A WHOLE AND THE NATION AS A WHOLE NEEDS THEM TO
NATION AS A WHOLE NEEDS THEM TO GET IT.
GET IT. OUR ECONOMY DEPENDS ON IT.
OUR ECONOMY DEPENDS ON IT. THIS IS NOT ABOUT WHETHER
THIS IS NOT ABOUT WHETHER SOMEBODY CAN GET A GOOD JOB AND
SOMEBODY CAN GET A GOOD JOB AND SOMEBODY ELSE GETS A LESS GOOD
SOMEBODY ELSE GETS A LESS GOOD JOB.
JOB. THIS IS ABOUT WHETHER WE CAN
THIS IS ABOUT WHETHER WE CAN ACTUALLY SUPPLY OUR EMPLOYERS,
ACTUALLY SUPPLY OUR EMPLOYERS, OUR INDUSTRY, OUR GOVERNMENT
OUR INDUSTRY, OUR GOVERNMENT AND PUBLIC SERVICES WITH THE
AND PUBLIC SERVICES WITH THE QUALIFIED PEOPLE TO DO
QUALIFIED PEOPLE TO DO THE WORK.
THE WORK. >> AND WITH ONLY 1/3 OF THE
>> AND WITH ONLY 1/3 OF THE STATE'S POPULATION HOLDING A
STATE'S POPULATION HOLDING A COLLEGE DEGREE, HIGHER
COLLEGE DEGREE, HIGHER EDUCATION OFFICIALS SAY THEY
EDUCATION OFFICIALS SAY THEY RECOGNIZE INDIANA HAS A LOT OF
RECOGNIZE INDIANA HAS A LOT OF ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT.
ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT. >> JOINING US IN STUDIO TONIGHT
>> JOINING US IN STUDIO TONIGHT TO DISCUSS THESE ISSUES ARE JOHN
TO DISCUSS THESE ISSUES ARE JOHN APPLEGATE, INDIANA UNIVERSITY'S
APPLEGATE, INDIANA UNIVERSITY'S EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT FOR
EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT FOR REGIONAL AFFAIRS, PLANNING AND
REGIONAL AFFAIRS, PLANNING AND POLICY PLANNING, ALSO JOHN
POLICY PLANNING, ALSO JOHN WHIKEHART, CHANCELLOR OF IVY
WHIKEHART, CHANCELLOR OF IVY TECH-BLOOMINGTON, AND AL DIAZ,
TECH-BLOOMINGTON, AND AL DIAZ, EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT FOR
EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT FOR BUSINESS AND FINANCE AT PURDUE
BUSINESS AND FINANCE AT PURDUE UNIVERSITY.
UNIVERSITY. THANKS TO THE THREE OF YOU FOR
THANKS TO THE THREE OF YOU FOR BEING HERE.
BEING HERE. LET ME GET A RESPONSE TO THIS
LET ME GET A RESPONSE TO THIS FIRST QUESTION FROM ALL THREE OF
FIRST QUESTION FROM ALL THREE OF YOU, AND, AL, WE'LL START WITH
YOU, AND, AL, WE'LL START WITH YOU AND COME BACK DOWN THE
YOU AND COME BACK DOWN THE PANEL.
PANEL. YOU PROBABLY HEARD AS WE HAVE IN
YOU PROBABLY HEARD AS WE HAVE IN OUR
OUR THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS HOW THE
THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS HOW THE REPUBLICANS IN THE STATE
REPUBLICANS IN THE STATE LEGISLATURE DISAGREE A LITTLE
LEGISLATURE DISAGREE A LITTLE BIT WITH GOVERNOR PENCE ABOUT
BIT WITH GOVERNOR PENCE ABOUT HIGHER EDUCATION FUNDING.
HIGHER EDUCATION FUNDING. THE GOVERNOR WANTED A SMALLER
THE GOVERNOR WANTED A SMALLER INCREASE AND SOUNDS LIKE THE
INCREASE AND SOUNDS LIKE THE LEADERS IN THE LEGISLATURE WANT.
LEADERS IN THE LEGISLATURE WANT. WHAT DOES THAT DISCONNECT MAKE
WHAT DOES THAT DISCONNECT MAKE YOU THINK ABOUT OR MAKE YOUR
YOU THINK ABOUT OR MAKE YOUR UNIVERSITY CHANGE ITS MESSAGE
UNIVERSITY CHANGE ITS MESSAGE ABOUT GOING TO LOBBY THOSE
ABOUT GOING TO LOBBY THOSE LAWMAKERS TO GET SOME PART OF
LAWMAKERS TO GET SOME PART OF THE STATE'S BUDGETARY PIE?
THE STATE'S BUDGETARY PIE? >> WELL, I THINK THAT WE DON'T
>> WELL, I THINK THAT WE DON'T WANT TO GET INTO A DISCUSSION
WANT TO GET INTO A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT THE PRIORITIES NEED
ABOUT WHAT THE PRIORITIES NEED TO BE NECESSARILY IN THE STATE.
TO BE NECESSARILY IN THE STATE. I WOULDN'T ARGUE WITH EITHER THE
I WOULDN'T ARGUE WITH EITHER THE GOVERNOR OR THE LEGISLATURE
GOVERNOR OR THE LEGISLATURE ABOUT THEIR PRIORITIES.
ABOUT THEIR PRIORITIES. I WILL SAY THAT ONE OF THE
I WILL SAY THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO
THINGS THAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO CONSISTENTLY IS TO CHANGE THE
CONSISTENTLY IS TO CHANGE THE CONVERSATION TO ONE THAT
CONVERSATION TO ONE THAT ACTUALLY REINFORCES THE FACT
ACTUALLY REINFORCES THE FACT THAT INVESTMENTS IN HIGHER
THAT INVESTMENTS IN HIGHER EDUCATION ARE INVESTMENTS IN THE
EDUCATION ARE INVESTMENTS IN THE FUTURE BOTH FROM THE STANDPOINT
FUTURE BOTH FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THE WORKFORCE BUT ALSO THE
OF THE WORKFORCE BUT ALSO THE ECONOMY OF THE STATE, AND SO
ECONOMY OF THE STATE, AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO BE VERY POSITIVE
WE'RE TRYING TO BE VERY POSITIVE ABOUT IT AND JUST REINFORCE THE
ABOUT IT AND JUST REINFORCE THE MESSAGE THAT AN INVESTMENT IN
MESSAGE THAT AN INVESTMENT IN HIGHER EDUCATION IS AN
HIGHER EDUCATION IS AN INVESTMENT IN THE FUTURE.
INVESTMENT IN THE FUTURE. >> CHANCELLOR WHIKEHART, WHAT
>> CHANCELLOR WHIKEHART, WHAT ABOUT IVY TECH, HOW DOES THE
ABOUT IVY TECH, HOW DOES THE DISCUSSION GOING ON ABOUT HOW
DISCUSSION GOING ON ABOUT HOW MUCH TO FUND HIGHER ED AFFECT
MUCH TO FUND HIGHER ED AFFECT IVY TECH?
IVY TECH? >> WELL, THE LEGISLATURE'S
>> WELL, THE LEGISLATURE'S RESPONSIBILITY IS TO CRAFT THE
RESPONSIBILITY IS TO CRAFT THE BUDGET.
BUDGET. SO IF THE DISCUSSION IS BETWEEN
SO IF THE DISCUSSION IS BETWEEN 7% OR 1%, THEN I WOULD ASSUME WE
7% OR 1%, THEN I WOULD ASSUME WE WOULD BE DOWN ON THE SIDE OF 7%
WOULD BE DOWN ON THE SIDE OF 7% AND HOPE THE LEGISLATURE IS ABLE
AND HOPE THE LEGISLATURE IS ABLE TO EXERT ITS WILL.
TO EXERT ITS WILL. I AGREE WITH AL.
I AGREE WITH AL. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN INVESTMENT IN THE STATE OF
INVESTMENT IN THE STATE OF INDIANA.
INDIANA. A FRIEND OF MINE TOLD ME ONCE IF
A FRIEND OF MINE TOLD ME ONCE IF YOU WERE IN A ROOM FULL OF
YOU WERE IN A ROOM FULL OF PEOPLE AND YOU SAID EVERYONE
PEOPLE AND YOU SAID EVERYONE HERE WHO WANTS TO GO TO HEAVEN
HERE WHO WANTS TO GO TO HEAVEN RAISE YOUR HAND, EVERYONE WOULD
RAISE YOUR HAND, EVERYONE WOULD RAISE THEIR HAND, AND THEN IF
RAISE THEIR HAND, AND THEN IF YOU SAID, DO YOU WANT TO DIE,
YOU SAID, DO YOU WANT TO DIE, RAISE YOUR HAND, NO ONE DOES.
RAISE YOUR HAND, NO ONE DOES. SOME OF THAT APPLIES TO FUNDING
SOME OF THAT APPLIES TO FUNDING FOR EDUCATION IN THE STATE OF
FOR EDUCATION IN THE STATE OF INDIANA.
INDIANA. WE WANT TO INCREASE GRADUATION
WE WANT TO INCREASE GRADUATION RATES.
RATES. WE WANT TO DOUBLE THEM NPT NEXT
WE WANT TO DOUBLE THEM NPT NEXT SEVERAL YEARS TO ATTAIN OUR
SEVERAL YEARS TO ATTAIN OUR GOALINGS, TO MOVE US UP TO BE
GOALINGS, TO MOVE US UP TO BE MORE COMPETITIVE WITH OTHER
MORE COMPETITIVE WITH OTHER STATES AND OTHER NATIONS QUITE
STATES AND OTHER NATIONS QUITE FRANKLY, BUT ARE WE WILLING TO
FRANKLY, BUT ARE WE WILLING TO PAY FOR THAT.
PAY FOR THAT. I THINK THOSE ARE SOME TOUGH
I THINK THOSE ARE SOME TOUGH DECISIONS AND TOUGH CHOICES AND
DECISIONS AND TOUGH CHOICES AND IF THE LEGISLATURE AND THE
IF THE LEGISLATURE AND THE GOVERNOR ARE SERIOUS AND THEY
GOVERNOR ARE SERIOUS AND THEY WANT US TO MEET THE GOALS THAT
WANT US TO MEET THE GOALS THAT THEY WANT TO SET FORTH FOR US,
THEY WANT TO SET FORTH FOR US, AND WE WANT TO MEET THOSE GOALS,
AND WE WANT TO MEET THOSE GOALS, THEN WE NEED SUPPORT.
THEN WE NEED SUPPORT. >> WHAT ABOUT WHERE IU IS
>> WHAT ABOUT WHERE IU IS CONCERNED?
CONCERNED? >> OH, OF COURSE, WE'VE BEEN
>> OH, OF COURSE, WE'VE BEEN TELLING OUR STORY TO THE
TELLING OUR STORY TO THE COMMISSION FOR HIGHER EDUCATION
COMMISSION FOR HIGHER EDUCATION TO THE VARIOUS COMMITTEES OF THE
TO THE VARIOUS COMMITTEES OF THE STATE LEGISLATURE FOR THE LAST
STATE LEGISLATURE FOR THE LAST FEW MONTHS, AND I THINK THAT'S
FEW MONTHS, AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL NEED TO
SOMETHING THAT WE'LL NEED TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT TH WITH THER
CONTINUE TO DO THAT TH WITH THER AND EVERYONE ELSE.
AND EVERYONE ELSE. THERE IS A GREAT STORY TO TELL
THERE IS A GREAT STORY TO TELL FOR IU AND I THINK FOR HIGHER
FOR IU AND I THINK FOR HIGHER EDUCATION.
EDUCATION. THE CASE IS CLEARLY OUT THERE
THE CASE IS CLEARLY OUT THERE AND THE GENTLEMAN FROM LUMINA
AND THE GENTLEMAN FROM LUMINA MADE THE CASE NICELY OF THE
MADE THE CASE NICELY OF THE IMPORTANCE OF HIGH EDUCATION TO
IMPORTANCE OF HIGH EDUCATION TO THE STATE'S ECONOMY, TO THE
THE STATE'S ECONOMY, TO THE STATE'S SOCIETY.
STATE'S SOCIETY. WE WILL CONTINUE TO MAKE THAT
WE WILL CONTINUE TO MAKE THAT CASE AND WORK WITH THE GOVERNOR,
CASE AND WORK WITH THE GOVERNOR, WORK WITH THE LEGISLATURE, WORK
WORK WITH THE LEGISLATURE, WORK WITH THE COMMISSION FOR HIGHER
WITH THE COMMISSION FOR HIGHER EDUCATION TO DO THAT.
EDUCATION TO DO THAT. >> OF COURSE, I DON'T HAVE TO
>> OF COURSE, I DON'T HAVE TO TELL THE THREE OF YOU THAT THE
TELL THE THREE OF YOU THAT THE GOVERNOR, OF COURSE, GETS THE
GOVERNOR, OF COURSE, GETS THE LAST WORD IN THIS BECAUSE HE'S
LAST WORD IN THIS BECAUSE HE'S GOT THE BUDGETARY VETO POWER TO
GOT THE BUDGETARY VETO POWER TO DO WHAT GOVERNOR DANIELS DID AND
DO WHAT GOVERNOR DANIELS DID AND TAKE CHARGE CHUNKS OUT OF THAT
TAKE CHARGE CHUNKS OUT OF THAT HIGHER ED BUDGET IF HE WANTS TO.
HIGHER ED BUDGET IF HE WANTS TO. LET'S ASSUME THE LAWMAKERS PASS
LET'S ASSUME THE LAWMAKERS PASS THEIR SLIGHTLY HIGHER EDUCATION
THEIR SLIGHTLY HIGHER EDUCATION FUNDING PLAN AND IT GETS TO THE
FUNDING PLAN AND IT GETS TO THE GOVERNOR.
GOVERNOR. HE COULD GO AHEAD AND SIGN IT
HE COULD GO AHEAD AND SIGN IT AND THEN REDACT SOME OF THAT
AND THEN REDACT SOME OF THAT MONEY LATER.
MONEY LATER. DOES THAT POSSIBILITY WORRY ANY
DOES THAT POSSIBILITY WORRY ANY OF YOUR INSTITUTIONS?
OF YOUR INSTITUTIONS? >> WELL, THIS IS A SITUATION
>> WELL, THIS IS A SITUATION THAT'S A CONSTITUTIONAL
THAT'S A CONSTITUTIONAL ORGANIZATION OF THE STATE FOR
ORGANIZATION OF THE STATE FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
QUITE SOME TIME. SO WE OPERATE UNDER THOSE
SO WE OPERATE UNDER THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES -- UNDER THOSE
CIRCUMSTANCES -- UNDER THOSE CONDITIONS ALL THE TIME.
CONDITIONS ALL THE TIME. AGAIN, WHAT WE TRY TO DO IS TELL
AGAIN, WHAT WE TRY TO DO IS TELL OUR STORY AND TELL THE STORY OF
OUR STORY AND TELL THE STORY OF HIGHER EDUCATION AS EFFECTIVELY
HIGHER EDUCATION AS EFFECTIVELY AS WE POSSIBLY CAN TO EMPHASIZE
AS WE POSSIBLY CAN TO EMPHASIZE THE INVESTMENT, TO EMPHASIZE THE
THE INVESTMENT, TO EMPHASIZE THE COST-CUTTING MEASURES, THE
COST-CUTTING MEASURES, THE EFFICIENCIES THAT WE AT IU, FOR
EFFICIENCIES THAT WE AT IU, FOR EXAMPLE, HAVE CHAMPIONED.
EXAMPLE, HAVE CHAMPIONED. SO I THINK THAT STORY IS ONE
SO I THINK THAT STORY IS ONE THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO FOCUS
THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON.
ON. >> JOHN, LET ME ASK YOU, ONE OF
>> JOHN, LET ME ASK YOU, ONE OF THE THINGS GOVERNOR PENCE SAID
THE THINGS GOVERNOR PENCE SAID HE WANTS TO DO IS INCREASE THE
HE WANTS TO DO IS INCREASE THE FUNDING TO AND INCREASE THE
FUNDING TO AND INCREASE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET VOCATIONAL
OPPORTUNITY TO GET VOCATIONAL EDUCATION IN THE STATE, WHICH IS
EDUCATION IN THE STATE, WHICH IS SOMETHING YOUR UNIVERSITY SYSTEM
SOMETHING YOUR UNIVERSITY SYSTEM IS PROBABLY BETTER PREPARED TO
IS PROBABLY BETTER PREPARED TO DO THAN IU OR PURDUE IS.
DO THAN IU OR PURDUE IS. DOES THAT BENEFIT IVY TECH
DOES THAT BENEFIT IVY TECH DISPROPORTIONATELY, THAT PUSH,
DISPROPORTIONATELY, THAT PUSH, DO YOU THINK?
DO YOU THINK? >> I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WILL
>> I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WILL BENEFIT DISPROPORTIONATELY.
BENEFIT DISPROPORTIONATELY. I WOULD TAKE SOME ISSUE WITH THE
I WOULD TAKE SOME ISSUE WITH THE DESCRIPTION MUCH US AS A
DESCRIPTION MUCH US AS A VOCATIONAL TRAINING INSTITUTION,
VOCATIONAL TRAINING INSTITUTION, A VOCATIONA VOCATIONAL SCHOOL.
A VOCATIONA VOCATIONAL SCHOOL. >> YOU WILL HAVE TO ADMIT IVY
>> YOU WILL HAVE TO ADMIT IVY TECH DOES THAT BETTER THAN
TECH DOES THAT BETTER THAN BLOOMINGTON OR PURDUE DOES.
BLOOMINGTON OR PURDUE DOES. I WOULD SAY TECHNICAL,
I WOULD SAY TECHNICAL, PROFESSIONAL AND CAREER
PROFESSIONAL AND CAREER EDUCATION PERHAPS.
EDUCATION PERHAPS. BUT AGAIN I THINK THERE MAY BE
BUT AGAIN I THINK THERE MAY BE ATTACHED TO THE WORD VOCATIONAL
ATTACHED TO THE WORD VOCATIONAL A DESCRIPTION THAT I DON'T KNOW
A DESCRIPTION THAT I DON'T KNOW IS PARTICULARLY APPROPRIATE TO
IS PARTICULARLY APPROPRIATE TO WHAT IVY TECH IS DOING RIGHT
WHAT IVY TECH IS DOING RIGHT NOW.
NOW. IT WILL REMAIN TO BE SEEN WHAT
IT WILL REMAIN TO BE SEEN WHAT THE GOVERNOR MEANS BY HIS PUSH
THE GOVERNOR MEANS BY HIS PUSH FOR STRONGER VOCATIONAL
FOR STRONGER VOCATIONAL EDUCATION.
EDUCATION. WHETHER THAT IS IN THE K-12 AREA
WHETHER THAT IS IN THE K-12 AREA OR WHERE IT MIGHT BE.
OR WHERE IT MIGHT BE. WE CERTAINLY HAVE AS PART OF OUR
WE CERTAINLY HAVE AS PART OF OUR MISSION WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT,
MISSION WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, AND ONE EVERY OUR GOALS WITH OUR
AND ONE EVERY OUR GOALS WITH OUR ASSOCIATE APPLIED SCIENCE
ASSOCIATE APPLIED SCIENCE DEGREES IS ENTRY LEVEL DEGREES
DEGREES IS ENTRY LEVEL DEGREES SO OUR STUDENTS CAN EARN THOSE
SO OUR STUDENTS CAN EARN THOSE DEGREES AND DIRECTLY ENTER THE
DEGREES AND DIRECTLY ENTER THE WORKFORCE BUT THE SECOND PART OF
WORKFORCE BUT THE SECOND PART OF OUR MISSION IS OUR TRANSFER
OUR MISSION IS OUR TRANSFER RESPONSIBILITY AND WE'VE
RESPONSIBILITY AND WE'VE ESTABLISHED SOME VERY STRONG
ESTABLISHED SOME VERY STRONG TRANSFER RELATIONSHIPS THAT SAVE
TRANSFER RELATIONSHIPS THAT SAVE THE STATE A GREAT DEAL OF MONEY.
THE STATE A GREAT DEAL OF MONEY. OUR STRONGEST -- I SIT HERE
OUR STRONGEST -- I SIT HERE BETWEEN TWO RIS TEM
BETWEEN TWO RIS TEM ADMINISTRATORS, WE HAVE VERY
ADMINISTRATORS, WE HAVE VERY STRONG RELATIONSHIPS WITH OUR
STRONG RELATIONSHIPS WITH OUR FOUR-YEAR PARTNERS, PARTICULARLY
FOUR-YEAR PARTNERS, PARTICULARLY HERE IN BLOOMINGTON WITH IU
HERE IN BLOOMINGTON WITH IU BLOOMINGTON, AND I HOPE WE KEEP
BLOOMINGTON, AND I HOPE WE KEEP A FOCUS ON THE COMPREHENSIVE
A FOCUS ON THE COMPREHENSIVE NATURE OF A COMMUNITY COLLEGE'S
NATURE OF A COMMUNITY COLLEGE'S MISSION AS WELL.
MISSION AS WELL. >> AL, YOU MENTIONED EARLIER YOU
>> AL, YOU MENTIONED EARLIER YOU WANTED TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT HOW
WANTED TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT HOW YOU DEFINED THE PRIORITIES OF
YOU DEFINED THE PRIORITIES OF THE LEGISLATURE AND THE
THE LEGISLATURE AND THE PRIORITIES OF THE STATE AND THE
PRIORITIES OF THE STATE AND THE MISSION.
MISSION. WHAT DO YOU THINK THIS NEW
WHAT DO YOU THINK THIS NEW ADMINISTRATION'S MISSION IS WITH
ADMINISTRATION'S MISSION IS WITH RESPECT TO HIGHER EDUCATION.
RESPECT TO HIGHER EDUCATION. THEY'VE BEEN VERY FORWARD ABOUT
THEY'VE BEEN VERY FORWARD ABOUT SAYING WE WANT MORE VOCATIONAL
SAYING WE WANT MORE VOCATIONAL TRAINING, WE WANT TO CATER TO
TRAINING, WE WANT TO CATER TO PEOPLE WHO DON'T NECESSARILY
PEOPLE WHO DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO GO TO FOUR-YEAR SCHOOLS.
WANT TO GO TO FOUR-YEAR SCHOOLS. THAT WOULD KIND OF SEEM TO LEAVE
THAT WOULD KIND OF SEEM TO LEAVE PURDUE EUT IN THE COLD IN SOME
PURDUE EUT IN THE COLD IN SOME CASES.
CASES. >> I DON'T THINK IT LEAVES US
>> I DON'T THINK IT LEAVES US OUT IN THE COLD AT ALL, FRANKLY.
OUT IN THE COLD AT ALL, FRANKLY. THAT ISN'T A CONCERN OF OURS.
THAT ISN'T A CONCERN OF OURS. I THINK THAT THE CHANCELLOR
I THINK THAT THE CHANCELLOR TALKED ABOUT SOMETHING THAT I
TALKED ABOUT SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS REALLY WORTH THINKING
THINK IS REALLY WORTH THINKING ABOUT, AND THAT IS THAT EACH OF
ABOUT, AND THAT IS THAT EACH OF THE INSTITUTIONS IN THE STATE
THE INSTITUTIONS IN THE STATE HAVE A ROLE V A MISSION, AND
HAVE A ROLE V A MISSION, AND IT'S -- IT'S INTERESTING THAT
IT'S -- IT'S INTERESTING THAT RECENTLY WE'VE BEEN HAVING MORE
RECENTLY WE'VE BEEN HAVING MORE AND MORE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW
AND MORE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW COLLABORATION AMONG THE
COLLABORATION AMONG THE INSTITUTIONS CAN REINFORCE THE
INSTITUTIONS CAN REINFORCE THE EFFECT THAT WE CAN HAVE.
EFFECT THAT WE CAN HAVE. SO WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH
SO WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH IVY TECH.
IVY TECH. WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH
WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH VINCENNES AND OTHER
VINCENNES AND OTHER INSTITUTIONS, OUR OWN REGIONAL
INSTITUTIONS, OUR OWN REGIONAL CAMPUSES, ABOUT ISSUES THAT
CAMPUSES, ABOUT ISSUES THAT RELATE TO THE FULL SPECTRUM FROM
RELATE TO THE FULL SPECTRUM FROM RESEARCH IN ECONOMICALLY
RESEARCH IN ECONOMICALLY SIGNIFICANT FIELDS THAT GO ALL
SIGNIFICANT FIELDS THAT GO ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE WORKFORCE
THE WAY THROUGH THE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S ASSOCIATED
DEVELOPMENT THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH EXPANDING THOSE FIELDS.
WITH EXPANDING THOSE FIELDS. SOME TRADITIONAL TO INDIANA LIKE
SOME TRADITIONAL TO INDIANA LIKE MANUFACTURING AND OTHERS
MANUFACTURING AND OTHERS EMERGING, AND I SAY EMERGING,
EMERGING, AND I SAY EMERGING, BUT I THINK INDIANA HAS
BUT I THINK INDIANA HAS ESTABLISHED ITSELF WELL IN THE
ESTABLISHED ITSELF WELL IN THE BIOTECH FIELD, ONE THAT IU HAS
BIOTECH FIELD, ONE THAT IU HAS GOT A NOTABLE ROLE IN AS WELL AS
GOT A NOTABLE ROLE IN AS WELL AS PURDUE.
PURDUE. SO I DON'T -- FRANKLY, I DON'T
SO I DON'T -- FRANKLY, I DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE BUDGET
WORRY ABOUT THE BUDGET EMPHASIZING OR DISENFRANCHISING
EMPHASIZING OR DISENFRANCHISING ANY OF THE INSTITUTIONS.
ANY OF THE INSTITUTIONS. WHAT I AM MAINLY INTERESTED IN
WHAT I AM MAINLY INTERESTED IN IS, AGAIN, REINFORCING THIS
IS, AGAIN, REINFORCING THIS MESSAGE THAT THE HIGHER
MESSAGE THAT THE HIGHER EDUCATION SYSTEM IS A PART OF
EDUCATION SYSTEM IS A PART OF THE SOLUTION FOR THE STATE IN
THE SOLUTION FOR THE STATE IN THE FUTURE AND EVERY ELEMENT OF
THE FUTURE AND EVERY ELEMENT OF IT CAN CONTRIBUTE IN SOME WAY.
IT CAN CONTRIBUTE IN SOME WAY. I THINK THAT MESSAGE HAS TO
I THINK THAT MESSAGE HAS TO BECOME CLEAR SO THAT I THINK IN
BECOME CLEAR SO THAT I THINK IN THE END BOTH THE LEGISLATURE AND
THE END BOTH THE LEGISLATURE AND THE GOVERNOR CAN AGREE THAT
THE GOVERNOR CAN AGREE THAT THERE'S A WAY FORWARD THAT
THERE'S A WAY FORWARD THAT INCLUDES A SIGNIFICANT
INCLUDES A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT IN HIGHER EDUCATION,
INVESTMENT IN HIGHER EDUCATION, WHETHER IT'S 1% OR 7 OR
WHETHER IT'S 1% OR 7 OR SOMETHING IN BETWEEN.
SOMETHING IN BETWEEN. >> SINCE YOU BROUGHT IT UP, LET
>> SINCE YOU BROUGHT IT UP, LET ME ASK YOU FIRST AND AS ASK THE
ME ASK YOU FIRST AND AS ASK THE OTHER TWO GENTLEMEN ABOUT THE
OTHER TWO GENTLEMEN ABOUT THE IDEA OF COLLABORATION BETWEEN
IDEA OF COLLABORATION BETWEEN HIGHER EDUCATION INSTITUTIONS.
HIGHER EDUCATION INSTITUTIONS. OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE OTHER
OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE OTHER AGREEMENTS IN PLACE.
AGREEMENTS IN PLACE. WHAT DO YOU THINK THE FUTURE IS
WHAT DO YOU THINK THE FUTURE IS FOR COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE
FOR COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE UNIVERSITIES?
UNIVERSITIES? I THINK AT SOME POINT THERE'S A
I THINK AT SOME POINT THERE'S A TENDENCY TO THINK OF YOU AS
TENDENCY TO THINK OF YOU AS COMPETITORS, BUT I GET THE SENSE
COMPETITORS, BUT I GET THE SENSE THE THREE OF YOU IN THIS PANEL
THE THREE OF YOU IN THIS PANEL THINK OF YOURSELVES AS
THINK OF YOURSELVES AS COLLABORATORS AND EVEN
COLLABORATORS AND EVEN INCREASINGLY COLLABORATIVE.
INCREASINGLY COLLABORATIVE. >> I THINK THAT IT IS -- WELL,
>> I THINK THAT IT IS -- WELL, IT'S CLEAR TO ME THAT WE ARE FAR
IT'S CLEAR TO ME THAT WE ARE FAR BETTER TOGETHER THAN WE ARE
BETTER TOGETHER THAN WE ARE INDIVIDUALLY.
INDIVIDUALLY. THERE'S THIS TRADITIONAL RIVALRY
THERE'S THIS TRADITIONAL RIVALRY BETWEEN IU AND PURDUE, BUT IT
BETWEEN IU AND PURDUE, BUT IT DOESN'T EXTEND TO ACADEMICS.
DOESN'T EXTEND TO ACADEMICS. THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS IU HAS
THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS IU HAS A SET OF COMPETENCIES AND
A SET OF COMPETENCIES AND EMPHASIZES FIELDS THAT, FRANKLY,
EMPHASIZES FIELDS THAT, FRANKLY, WE DON'T EMPHASIZE AT PURDUE AND
WE DON'T EMPHASIZE AT PURDUE AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT TO BE SAID
I THINK THERE'S A LOT TO BE SAID FOR COLLABORATIONS AMONG ALL OF
FOR COLLABORATIONS AMONG ALL OF THE INSTITUTIONS IN THE STATE.
THE INSTITUTIONS IN THE STATE. >> OTHER THOUGHTS ON THAT THAT.
>> OTHER THOUGHTS ON THAT THAT. >> WELL, I COULD PIGGYBACK ON
>> WELL, I COULD PIGGYBACK ON WHAT AL SAID BEFORE.
WHAT AL SAID BEFORE. I AGREE WITH YOU VERY MUCH, AND
I AGREE WITH YOU VERY MUCH, AND I WOULD PUT IT IN A SOMEWHAT
I WOULD PUT IT IN A SOMEWHAT DIFFERENT WAY, WHICH IS THAT
DIFFERENT WAY, WHICH IS THAT INDIANA NEEDS A DIVERSE HIGHER
INDIANA NEEDS A DIVERSE HIGHER EDUCATION PORTFOLIO, SO TO
EDUCATION PORTFOLIO, SO TO SPEAK, TO SUPPORT THE DIVERSE
SPEAK, TO SUPPORT THE DIVERSE ECONOMY THAT IT'S GOING TO NEED
ECONOMY THAT IT'S GOING TO NEED IN THE FUTURE.
IN THE FUTURE. I THINK THAT DIVERSITY SHOWS
I THINK THAT DIVERSITY SHOWS ITSELF IN A LOT OF WAYS THAT THE
ITSELF IN A LOT OF WAYS THAT THE CURRENT SYSTEM FOR HIGHER
CURRENT SYSTEM FOR HIGHER EDUCATION IN INDIANA IS WELL
EDUCATION IN INDIANA IS WELL SUITED TO.
SUITED TO. SO IT'S THE DIVERSITY OF
SO IT'S THE DIVERSITY OF SUBJECTS.
SUBJECTS. IT'S THE DIVERSITY OF LEVELS OF
IT'S THE DIVERSITY OF LEVELS OF EDUCATION.
EDUCATION. IT'S -- IT INCLUDES INSTITUTIONS
IT'S -- IT INCLUDES INSTITUTIONS THAT ARE VERY FOCUSED ON REGIONS
THAT ARE VERY FOCUSED ON REGIONS AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AND
AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AND REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT,
REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, ONES THAT ARE MUCH MORE FOCUSED
ONES THAT ARE MUCH MORE FOCUSED ON CUTTING-EDGE RESEARCH, VERY
ON CUTTING-EDGE RESEARCH, VERY HIGH-END, VERY CHALLENGING
HIGH-END, VERY CHALLENGING RESEARCH, AND EVERYTHING IN
RESEARCH, AND EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN.
BETWEEN. I THINK THAT'S A REAL STRENGTH
I THINK THAT'S A REAL STRENGTH OF THE HIGHER EDUCATION SYSTEM
OF THE HIGHER EDUCATION SYSTEM IN INDIANA, AND SO I WOULD VERY
IN INDIANA, AND SO I WOULD VERY MUCH AGREE WITH AL THAT THE
MUCH AGREE WITH AL THAT THE GOVERNOR'S EMPHASIS ON ONE PART
GOVERNOR'S EMPHASIS ON ONE PART OF IT, I DON'T HEAR HIM SAYING
OF IT, I DON'T HEAR HIM SAYING THAT THAT'S THE ONLY PART THAT'S
THAT THAT'S THE ONLY PART THAT'S IMPORTANT, OR THE ONLY PART THAT
IMPORTANT, OR THE ONLY PART THAT HE IS SUPPORTIVE OF, BUT A FOCUS
HE IS SUPPORTIVE OF, BUT A FOCUS ON THAT IS TO BE EXPECTED IN A
ON THAT IS TO BE EXPECTED IN A NEW ADMINISTRATION.
NEW ADMINISTRATION. >> IF I MAY, WHEN WE SPEAK OF
>> IF I MAY, WHEN WE SPEAK OF COLLABORATIONS, AND AGAIN I'M
COLLABORATIONS, AND AGAIN I'M THE CHANCELLOR OF ONE REGION IN
THE CHANCELLOR OF ONE REGION IN A 14-REGION SYSTEM, BUT OUR
A 14-REGION SYSTEM, BUT OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE UNIVERSITY
RELATIONSHIP WITH THE UNIVERSITY IS LIGHT-YEARS AHEAD OF WHERE IT
IS LIGHT-YEARS AHEAD OF WHERE IT WAS IN TERMS OF PROGRAM
WAS IN TERMS OF PROGRAM ARTICULATION, IN TERMS OF
ARTICULATION, IN TERMS OF PROGRAMS LIKE HOOSIER LINK WHERE
PROGRAMS LIKE HOOSIER LINK WHERE WE DUALLY ENROLL STUDENTS AT
WE DUALLY ENROLL STUDENTS AT BOTH IU AND IVY TECH-BLOOMINGTON
BOTH IU AND IVY TECH-BLOOMINGTON TAKING COURSES AND TRANSFERRING
TAKING COURSES AND TRANSFERRING BACK.
BACK. WE'VE JUST ENTERED INTO AN
WE'VE JUST ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH PURDUE
AGREEMENT WITH PURDUE UNIVERSITY, THE ANDERSON CAMPUS,
UNIVERSITY, THE ANDERSON CAMPUS, WHERE THE ENGINEERING TECHNOLOGY
WHERE THE ENGINEERING TECHNOLOGY BACK LAUREATE DEGREE, OUR
BACK LAUREATE DEGREE, OUR STUDENTS WHO ARE COMING OUT OF
STUDENTS WHO ARE COMING OUT OF OUR ASSOCIATE DEGREE PROGRAM,
OUR ASSOCIATE DEGREE PROGRAM, WE'RE LOOKING AT FACULTY FROM
WE'RE LOOKING AT FACULTY FROM PURDUE CAMPUS COMING TO OUR
PURDUE CAMPUS COMING TO OUR CAMPUS AND TEACHING BACK
CAMPUS AND TEACHING BACK LAUREATE LEVEL IN OUR TECHNOLOGY
LAUREATE LEVEL IN OUR TECHNOLOGY LABS.
LABS. SO I THINK WE NEED TO TELL THOSE
SO I THINK WE NEED TO TELL THOSE STORIES TO THE LEGISLATURE AND
STORIES TO THE LEGISLATURE AND THE GOVERNOR, AND IF THERE -- IF
THE GOVERNOR, AND IF THERE -- IF THE GOVERNOR OR ANY LEGISLATORS
THE GOVERNOR OR ANY LEGISLATORS STILL BELIEVE THAT WE ARE
STILL BELIEVE THAT WE ARE OPERATING IN SILOS, THEN WE NEED
OPERATING IN SILOS, THEN WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB EXPLAINING
TO DO A BETTER JOB EXPLAINING THAT WE'RE NOT AND HOW
THAT WE'RE NOT AND HOW COLLABORATIVE THESE
COLLABORATIVE THESE RELATIONSHIPS HAVE BECOME.
RELATIONSHIPS HAVE BECOME. >> ON THIS NEXT QUESTION, AL,
>> ON THIS NEXT QUESTION, AL, I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU THE LAST
I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU THE LAST WORD BUT GIVE THESE TWO THE
WORD BUT GIVE THESE TWO THE FIRST WORD, STARTING WITH JOHN.
FIRST WORD, STARTING WITH JOHN. HOW DID MITCH DANIELS BEING THE
HOW DID MITCH DANIELS BEING THE PRESIDENT OF PURDUE NOW CHANGE
PRESIDENT OF PURDUE NOW CHANGE THE EDUCATIONAL LANDSCAPE IN
THE EDUCATIONAL LANDSCAPE IN THIS STATE?
THIS STATE? I MEAN, I WOULD THINK THAT IF
I MEAN, I WOULD THINK THAT IF YOU'RE ON THE INDIANA UNIVERSITY
YOU'RE ON THE INDIANA UNIVERSITY CAMPUS YOU LOOK AT THAT AS A
CAMPUS YOU LOOK AT THAT AS A CHALLENGE IN SOME WAYS BECAUSE I
CHALLENGE IN SOME WAYS BECAUSE I THINK YOU'RE LOOKING AT --
THINK YOU'RE LOOKING AT -- YOU'RE ALWAYS LOOKING AT HOW
YOU'RE ALWAYS LOOKING AT HOW DOES THE PRESIDENT, FOR
DOES THE PRESIDENT, FOR INSTANCE, THE PRESIDENT OF IU,
INSTANCE, THE PRESIDENT OF IU, STACK UP WITH THE PRESIDENT OF
STACK UP WITH THE PRESIDENT OF PURDUE IN TERMS OF IMPORTANCE
PURDUE IN TERMS OF IMPORTANCE WITH THE LEGISLATURE IN SOME
WITH THE LEGISLATURE IN SOME WAYS, AND NOW YOU'VE GOT MICHAEL
WAYS, AND NOW YOU'VE GOT MICHAEL McROBBIE WHO HAS WORKED TO
McROBBIE WHO HAS WORKED TO FORGE A LOT OF RELATIONSHIP IN
FORGE A LOT OF RELATIONSHIP IN INDIANAPOLIS WITH THE GUY WHO
INDIANAPOLIS WITH THE GUY WHO USED TO RUN EVERYTHING IN
USED TO RUN EVERYTHING IN INDIANAPOLIS.
INDIANAPOLIS. HOW DO YOU SEE IT?
HOW DO YOU SEE IT? >> I THINK IT'S A WONDERFUL
>> I THINK IT'S A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY.
OPPORTUNITY. IU HAS WORKED WELL WITH THE
IU HAS WORKED WELL WITH THE GOVERNOR WHEN HE WAS GOVERNOR
GOVERNOR WHEN HE WAS GOVERNOR AND IN THE RUN-UP TO HIM
AND IN THE RUN-UP TO HIM BECOMING PRESIDENT, I KNOW THAT
BECOMING PRESIDENT, I KNOW THAT THE TWO PRESIDENTS NOW HAVE BEEN
THE TWO PRESIDENTS NOW HAVE BEEN IN TOUCH.
IN TOUCH. I THINK THAT THEY CONTINUE A
I THINK THAT THEY CONTINUE A VERY STRONG RELATIONSHIP THAT RE
VERY STRONG RELATIONSHIP THAT RE POINT ABOUT IU AND PURDUE, AND
POINT ABOUT IU AND PURDUE, AND IT INCLUDES IVY TECH AS WELL, IN
IT INCLUDES IVY TECH AS WELL, IN THE SENSE THAT WE ARE VERY MUCH
THE SENSE THAT WE ARE VERY MUCH PARTNERS IN THIS ENTERPRISE,
PARTNERS IN THIS ENTERPRISE, INCREASINGLY PARTNERS.
INCREASINGLY PARTNERS. SO I THINK HAVING A STRONG, WELL
SO I THINK HAVING A STRONG, WELL INFORMED COLLABORATOR IN WEST
INFORMED COLLABORATOR IN WEST LAFAYETTE AND FOR THE PURDUE
LAFAYETTE AND FOR THE PURDUE REGIONAL CAMPUSES IS GOOD FOR
REGIONAL CAMPUSES IS GOOD FOR THE STATE.
THE STATE. IT'S GOOD FOR PURDUE.
IT'S GOOD FOR PURDUE. AND IT'S GOOD FOR IU.
AND IT'S GOOD FOR IU. >> IVY TECH DID VERY WELL
>> IVY TECH DID VERY WELL FINANCIAL UNDER THE DANIELS
FINANCIAL UNDER THE DANIELS ADMINISTRATION.
ADMINISTRATION. WHAT DO YOU THINK IVY TECH
WHAT DO YOU THINK IVY TECH ADMINISTRATORS THINK OF HAVING
ADMINISTRATORS THINK OF HAVING FORMER GOVERNOR NOW PRESIDENT
FORMER GOVERNOR NOW PRESIDENT DANIELS IN WEST LAFAYETTE?
DANIELS IN WEST LAFAYETTE? >> I THINK PRESIDENT SNYDER, OUR
>> I THINK PRESIDENT SNYDER, OUR PRESIDENT, HAS A VERY GOOD
PRESIDENT, HAS A VERY GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH NOW
WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH NOW PRESIDENT DANIELS.
PRESIDENT DANIELS. I THINK WHAT WILL BE INTERESTING
I THINK WHAT WILL BE INTERESTING TO WATCH AS IT DEVELOPS WILL BE
TO WATCH AS IT DEVELOPS WILL BE HOW THE FORMER GESH AND NOW THE
HOW THE FORMER GESH AND NOW THE PRESIDENT'S PERCEPTIONS OF HIGH
PRESIDENT'S PERCEPTIONS OF HIGH HE WERE EDUCATION WORKING FROM
HE WERE EDUCATION WORKING FROM THE INSIDE LOOKING FROM THE
THE INSIDE LOOKING FROM THE INSIDE OUT MAY CHANGE OR EVOLVE
INSIDE OUT MAY CHANGE OR EVOLVE OR DEVELOP OVER THE COMING
OR DEVELOP OVER THE COMING MONTHS AND YEARS.
MONTHS AND YEARS. SO I LOOK FORWARD TO WATCHING
SO I LOOK FORWARD TO WATCHING THAT.
THAT. >> AL, WHEN YOU HEARD THAT THE
>> AL, WHEN YOU HEARD THAT THE GOVERNOR WAS BECOMING YOUR NEXT
GOVERNOR WAS BECOMING YOUR NEXT PRESIDENT, DID YOU THINK OF IT
PRESIDENT, DID YOU THINK OF IT AS A COUP OF SORTS?
AS A COUP OF SORTS? >> CAREFUL, AL.
>> CAREFUL, AL. >> NO --
>> NO -- >> I DON'T MEAN MILL TEARY.
>> I DON'T MEAN MILL TEARY. I MEAN, BOY WE GOT --
I MEAN, BOY WE GOT -- >> YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE ARE TWO
>> YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE ARE TWO WAYS --
WAYS -- >> IT DOES SOUND A LITTLE BIT
>> IT DOES SOUND A LITTLE BIT LIKE A MILITARY CAMPAIGN.
LIKE A MILITARY CAMPAIGN. FRANKLY, I'VE GOTTEN TO KNOW THE
FRANKLY, I'VE GOTTEN TO KNOW THE GOVERNOR IN A ROLE AS GOVERNOR,
GOVERNOR IN A ROLE AS GOVERNOR, AS MY COLLEAGUES HAVE, AND
AS MY COLLEAGUES HAVE, AND FRANKLY I WAS PLEASED TO SEE
FRANKLY I WAS PLEASED TO SEE TODAY THAT THE GOVERNOR --
TODAY THAT THE GOVERNOR -- GOVERNOR PENCE HAS SUGGESTED
GOVERNOR PENCE HAS SUGGESTED THAT ONE OF THE REASONS THAT THE
THAT ONE OF THE REASONS THAT THE STATE IS IN AS GOOD A SHAPE AS
STATE IS IN AS GOOD A SHAPE AS IT IS TO MAKE THE KINDS OF
IT IS TO MAKE THE KINDS OF DECISIONS TO INVEST THAT IT HAS
DECISIONS TO INVEST THAT IT HAS IS BECAUSE OF THE STEWARDSHIP OF
IS BECAUSE OF THE STEWARDSHIP OF THE PREVIOUS GOVERNOR.
THE PREVIOUS GOVERNOR. I THINK HE'S GOING TO BRING A
I THINK HE'S GOING TO BRING A LOT OF THAT SAME LEADERSHIP TO
LOT OF THAT SAME LEADERSHIP TO PURDUE.
PURDUE. BUT I THINK BASED ON EVERYTHING
BUT I THINK BASED ON EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE SEEN, AND HAVING
THAT WE'VE SEEN, AND HAVING SPENT SOME TIME WITH HIM IN THE
SPENT SOME TIME WITH HIM IN THE PAST SIX MONTHS WHILE HE HAS
PAST SIX MONTHS WHILE HE HAS TRANSITIONED, I THINK HIS
TRANSITIONED, I THINK HIS INSIGHT INTO THINGS THAT ARE
INSIGHT INTO THINGS THAT ARE STATEWIDE AS WELL AS, FRANKLY,
STATEWIDE AS WELL AS, FRANKLY, NATIONAL WILL PROVIDE INDIANA IN
NATIONAL WILL PROVIDE INDIANA IN GENERAL WITH A RESOURCE THAT,
GENERAL WITH A RESOURCE THAT, FRANKLY, WE HAVEN'T HAD BEFORE.
FRANKLY, WE HAVEN'T HAD BEFORE. SO I DON'T -- I DON'T SEE IT AS
SO I DON'T -- I DON'T SEE IT AS A PLUS FOR US AND A MINUS FOR
A PLUS FOR US AND A MINUS FOR OTHERS.
OTHERS. I THINK IT'S A PLUS FOR EVERYONE
I THINK IT'S A PLUS FOR EVERYONE IN THE STATE AND FOR HIGHER
IN THE STATE AND FOR HIGHER EDUCATION ESPECIALLY.
EDUCATION ESPECIALLY. >> I'LL OPEN THIS UP TO WHOEVER
>> I'LL OPEN THIS UP TO WHOEVER WANTS TO ANSWER IT FIRST.
WANTS TO ANSWER IT FIRST. I'M CURIOUS HOW THE THREE OF YOU
I'M CURIOUS HOW THE THREE OF YOU GET THE SENSE PUBLIC UNIVERSITY
GET THE SENSE PUBLIC UNIVERSITY OFFICIALS FEEL ABOUT THE CHANGES
OFFICIALS FEEL ABOUT THE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE TO THE K-12
THAT HAVE BEEN MADE TO THE K-12 EDUCATION SYSTEM IN THE STATE IN
EDUCATION SYSTEM IN THE STATE IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN VERY
SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN VERY CONTROVERSIAL.
CONTROVERSIAL. SOME OF THEM, THE NEW
SOME OF THEM, THE NEW SUPERINTENDENT SAYS SHE WANTS TO
SUPERINTENDENT SAYS SHE WANTS TO CHANGE.
CHANGE. THE ONE THAT CAME IMMEDIATELY TO
THE ONE THAT CAME IMMEDIATELY TO MIND THAT I WANTED TO ASK YOU
MIND THAT I WANTED TO ASK YOU IMMEDIATELY ABOUT AND FEEL FREE
IMMEDIATELY ABOUT AND FEEL FREE TO BRANCH OFF, IS VOUCHERS.
TO BRANCH OFF, IS VOUCHERS. IT SEEMS TO ME THE VOUCHER
IT SEEMS TO ME THE VOUCHER SYSTEM IN SOME WAYS IS A
SYSTEM IN SOME WAYS IS A TRAINING GROUND.
TRAINING GROUND. IF YOU'RE USING A VOUCHER TO
IF YOU'RE USING A VOUCHER TO CHOOSE WHICH IS THE BEST SCHOOL
CHOOSE WHICH IS THE BEST SCHOOL FOR YOUR CHILD, THAT'S A LITTLE
FOR YOUR CHILD, THAT'S A LITTLE LIKE CHOOSING A UNIVERSITY
LIKE CHOOSING A UNIVERSITY BECAUSE YOU WANT TO FIND THE
BECAUSE YOU WANT TO FIND THE BEST FIT, THE BEST EDUCATION,
BEST FIT, THE BEST EDUCATION, BUT NONETHELESS YOU HAVE A
BUT NONETHELESS YOU HAVE A MONETARY CONCERN AS WELL.
MONETARY CONCERN AS WELL. ARE THERE K-12 EDUCATION
ARE THERE K-12 EDUCATION POLICIES THAT YOU THINK IN THE
POLICIES THAT YOU THINK IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS HAVE BEEN
LAST COUPLE OF YEARS HAVE BEEN PARTICULARLY POSITIVE OR
PARTICULARLY POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE AS THEY RELATE TO YOUR
NEGATIVE AS THEY RELATE TO YOUR SCHOOLS?
SCHOOLS? >> WE THINK ABOUT IT IN TWO
>> WE THINK ABOUT IT IN TWO DIFFERENT WAYS.
DIFFERENT WAYS. ONE, OF COURSE, IS THAT WE HAVE
ONE, OF COURSE, IS THAT WE HAVE SCHOOLS OF EDUCATION WHICH
SCHOOLS OF EDUCATION WHICH PREPARE TEACHERS.
PREPARE TEACHERS. OF COURSE, WE PREPARE TEACHERS
OF COURSE, WE PREPARE TEACHERS FOR THEIR WORK IN ALL KINDS OF
FOR THEIR WORK IN ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT SCHOOL SETTINGS, AND
DIFFERENT SCHOOL SETTINGS, AND SO THE FACT THAT THERE IS A
SO THE FACT THAT THERE IS A DIFFERENT MIX OF SETTINGS IS A
DIFFERENT MIX OF SETTINGS IS A CHALLENGE MAYBE BUT IT'S ONE
CHALLENGE MAYBE BUT IT'S ONE THAT WE'VE ALREADY EMBRACED AND
THAT WE'VE ALREADY EMBRACED AND WILL CONTINUE TO.
WILL CONTINUE TO. THE OTHER WAY THAT WE CARE ABOUT
THE OTHER WAY THAT WE CARE ABOUT IT AND CARE VERY DEEPLY IS THE
IT AND CARE VERY DEEPLY IS THE QUALITY OF THE PREPARATION.
QUALITY OF THE PREPARATION. BECAUSE INDIANA STUDENTS, THE
BECAUSE INDIANA STUDENTS, THE GRADUATES OF INDIANA HIGH
GRADUATES OF INDIANA HIGH SCHOOLS, ARE A VERY BIG PART OF
SCHOOLS, ARE A VERY BIG PART OF THE ENTERING STUDENT COHORT FOR
THE ENTERING STUDENT COHORT FOR OUR -- ALL OF OUR CAMPUSES.
OUR -- ALL OF OUR CAMPUSES. AND SO THE QUALITY OF THE K-12
AND SO THE QUALITY OF THE K-12 EDUCATION IS OF ENORMOUS
EDUCATION IS OF ENORMOUS IMPORTANCE TO US, AND SO WE HAVE
IMPORTANCE TO US, AND SO WE HAVE TRIED TO BE AS SUPPORTIVE AS
TRIED TO BE AS SUPPORTIVE AS POSSIBLE OF THE EFFORTS OF THE
POSSIBLE OF THE EFFORTS OF THE STATE, OF INDIVIDUAL SCHOOLS,
STATE, OF INDIVIDUAL SCHOOLS, SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN ASSURING
SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN ASSURING THAT THE -- THAT STUDENTS WHO
THAT THE -- THAT STUDENTS WHO COME OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL, WHO
COME OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL, WHO WANT TO GO ON TO COLLEGE AT
WANT TO GO ON TO COLLEGE AT WHATEVER LEVEL, ARE COLLEGE
WHATEVER LEVEL, ARE COLLEGE READY.
READY. >> OTHER THOUGHTS ON WHETHER THE
>> OTHER THOUGHTS ON WHETHER THE STATE'S K-12 IS BENEFITING YOU?
STATE'S K-12 IS BENEFITING YOU? >> WELL, IF I MAY, AMONG THE
>> WELL, IF I MAY, AMONG THE MANY CHANGES THAT HAVE TAKEN
MANY CHANGES THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE OR ARE TAKING PLACE IS ONE
PLACE OR ARE TAKING PLACE IS ONE WHERE THE HIGH SCHOOLS ARE
WHERE THE HIGH SCHOOLS ARE MOVING TOWARDS MORE DUAL CREDIT
MOVING TOWARDS MORE DUAL CREDIT OPPORTUNITIES FOR WHO WILL SKY
OPPORTUNITIES FOR WHO WILL SKY STUDENTS AND A REQUIREMENT THAT
STUDENTS AND A REQUIREMENT THAT STUDENTS EARN COOL CREDITS AND
STUDENTS EARN COOL CREDITS AND HAVE COLLEGE CREDITS IN HAND
HAVE COLLEGE CREDITS IN HAND WHEN THEY GRADUATE.
WHEN THEY GRADUATE. WE HAVE A COUPLE MODELS OF THAT
WE HAVE A COUPLE MODELS OF THAT IN BLOOMINGTON WITH THE EARLY
IN BLOOMINGTON WITH THE EARLY COLLEGE MODELS AT BLOOMINGTON
COLLEGE MODELS AT BLOOMINGTON HIGH SCHOOL NORTH AND SOUTH WAND
HIGH SCHOOL NORTH AND SOUTH WAND NEW TECH HIGH SCHOOL WHERE
NEW TECH HIGH SCHOOL WHERE STUDENTS AT NEW TECH ARE
STUDENTS AT NEW TECH ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE 12 COLLEGE
REQUIRED TO HAVE 12 COLLEGE CREDIT HOURS WHEN THEY GRADUATE.
CREDIT HOURS WHEN THEY GRADUATE. SO IT'S BOTH AN OPPORTUNITY AND
SO IT'S BOTH AN OPPORTUNITY AND A CHALLENGE.
A CHALLENGE. AS WE WORK WITH OUR HIGH SCHOOL
AS WE WORK WITH OUR HIGH SCHOOL COLLEAGUES ON DEVELOPING MORE
COLLEAGUES ON DEVELOPING MORE DUAL CREDIT OPPORTUNITIES FOR
DUAL CREDIT OPPORTUNITIES FOR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS, THE
HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS, THE CHALLENGE IS THAT THAT'S NOT
CHALLENGE IS THAT THAT'S NOT CURRENTLY PART OF THE STATE'S
CURRENTLY PART OF THE STATE'S FUNDING FORMULA.
FUNDING FORMULA. SO HOW THE STATE GOES ABOUT
SO HOW THE STATE GOES ABOUT ASSISTING FUNDING FOR STUDENTS
ASSISTING FUNDING FOR STUDENTS WHO ARE EARNING DUAL CREDIT IS
WHO ARE EARNING DUAL CREDIT IS ANOTHER FINANCIAL CHALLENGE FOR
ANOTHER FINANCIAL CHALLENGE FOR THE STATE.
THE STATE. >> LET ME PHRASE IT A LITTLE
>> LET ME PHRASE IT A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY TO YOU, AL.
DIFFERENTLY TO YOU, AL. RESPECTTIVE TO TECHNOLOGY
RESPECTTIVE TO TECHNOLOGY PROGRAMS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT IN
PROGRAMS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT IN UNDER THE BENNETT ADMINISTRATION
UNDER THE BENNETT ADMINISTRATION AND PROBABLY TO INCLUDE UNDER
AND PROBABLY TO INCLUDE UNDER THE RITZ ADMINISTRATION, GETTING
THE RITZ ADMINISTRATION, GETTING MORE STUDENTS TO USE iPADs,
MORE STUDENTS TO USE iPADs, ELECTRIC FRAWNIC TEXTBOOKS,
ELECTRIC FRAWNIC TEXTBOOKS, THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF
THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF INITIATIVES THAT IT STRIKES ME
INITIATIVES THAT IT STRIKES ME WOULD LED TO A GOOD FOUNDATION
WOULD LED TO A GOOD FOUNDATION FOR A LOT OF THE ENGINEERING,
FOR A LOT OF THE ENGINEERING, FOR INSTANCE, THAT PURDUE
FOR INSTANCE, THAT PURDUE PRODUCES.
PRODUCES. DO YOU THINK THOSE ARE THE SORTS
DO YOU THINK THOSE ARE THE SORTS OF THINGS THAT CAN BE EVEN
OF THINGS THAT CAN BE EVEN FURTHER BUILT UPON TO BRIP IN
FURTHER BUILT UPON TO BRIP IN PERSPECTIVE -- PROSPECTIVE GOOD
PERSPECTIVE -- PROSPECTIVE GOOD CANDIDATES FOR A PURDUE
CANDIDATES FOR A PURDUE EDUCATION?
EDUCATION? >> I THINK ANY EMPHASIS ON
>> I THINK ANY EMPHASIS ON TECHNOLOGY AND EXPOSURE TO
TECHNOLOGY AND EXPOSURE TO TECHNOLOGY IS GOING TO BE GOOD
TECHNOLOGY IS GOING TO BE GOOD FOR K-12 STUDENTS, AND I AGREE
FOR K-12 STUDENTS, AND I AGREE IN A WAY WITH THE OTHER TWO
IN A WAY WITH THE OTHER TWO SPEAKERS THAT, FRANKLY, I'VE
SPEAKERS THAT, FRANKLY, I'VE BEEN PLEASED TO SEE THAT THERE
BEEN PLEASED TO SEE THAT THERE HAS BEEN SUCH EMPHASIS ON K-12,
HAS BEEN SUCH EMPHASIS ON K-12, BECAUSE I DO THINK -- WHEN YOU
BECAUSE I DO THINK -- WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT -- WHEN YOU THINK
THINK ABOUT -- WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE SUITE OF PUBLIC AND
ABOUT THE SUITE OF PUBLIC AND PRIVATE HIGHER EDUCATION
PRIVATE HIGHER EDUCATION INSTITUTIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE
INSTITUTIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO HOOSIERS IN THIS STATE, IT'S
TO HOOSIERS IN THIS STATE, IT'S REALLY ASTONISHING WHEN YOU LOOK
REALLY ASTONISHING WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THE
AT IT FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THE QUALITY OF EDUCATION THAT'S
QUALITY OF EDUCATION THAT'S AVAILABLE.
AVAILABLE. AND ANYTHING THAT CAN BE DONE TO
AND ANYTHING THAT CAN BE DONE TO PREPARE THOSE STUDENTS BETTER TO
PREPARE THOSE STUDENTS BETTER TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT, IT HAS
TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT, IT HAS GOT TO BE WORTHWHILE.
GOT TO BE WORTHWHILE. >> LET ME GET A FINAL RESPONSE
>> LET ME GET A FINAL RESPONSE FROM EACH OF THE THREE OF YOU IN
FROM EACH OF THE THREE OF YOU IN 30 OR 45 SECONDS APIECE.
30 OR 45 SECONDS APIECE. IF YOU HAD TO SAY YOU NEED ONE
IF YOU HAD TO SAY YOU NEED ONE THING FROM THIS BUDGET SESSION
THING FROM THIS BUDGET SESSION OF THE LEGISLATURE AS YOU WORK
OF THE LEGISLATURE AS YOU WORK TO BRING YOUR BUDGETS BACK TO
TO BRING YOUR BUDGETS BACK TO WHERE THEY WERE BEFORE THE
WHERE THEY WERE BEFORE THE RECESSION, BEFORE THE STATE HAD
RECESSION, BEFORE THE STATE HAD TO CUT SOME MONEY, AND, JOHN,
TO CUT SOME MONEY, AND, JOHN, WE'LL START WITH YOU AND GO DOWN
WE'LL START WITH YOU AND GO DOWN THE PANEL, IF YOU HAD TO HAVE
THE PANEL, IF YOU HAD TO HAVE ONE THING FOR IU, IVY TECH AND
ONE THING FOR IU, IVY TECH AND PURDUE OUT OF THIS SESSION, WHAT
PURDUE OUT OF THIS SESSION, WHAT WOULD THAT ONE THING BE, DO YOU
WOULD THAT ONE THING BE, DO YOU THINK.
THINK. >> I THINK IF I HAVE TO PICK ONE
>> I THINK IF I HAVE TO PICK ONE IT WOULD BE THE SUPPORT FOR THE
IT WOULD BE THE SUPPORT FOR THE PERFORMANCE FUNDING INITIATIVE
PERFORMANCE FUNDING INITIATIVE OF THE COMMISSION THAT IS FROM
OF THE COMMISSION THAT IS FROM NEW RESOURCES RATHER THAN TAKING
NEW RESOURCES RATHER THAN TAKING RESOURCES AND REKIS REDISTRIBUTG
RESOURCES AND REKIS REDISTRIBUTG THEM.
THEM. WE MADE, I BELIEVE, A COMPELLING
WE MADE, I BELIEVE, A COMPELLING CASE TO THE COMMISSION AND TO
CASE TO THE COMMISSION AND TO THE LEGISLATURE ABOUT THE
THE LEGISLATURE ABOUT THE EFFORTS THAT WE'VE MADE IN BEING
EFFORTS THAT WE'VE MADE IN BEING MORE EFFICIENT AND THE TERRIFIC
MORE EFFICIENT AND THE TERRIFIC PROGRAMS THAT WE OFFER, THE
PROGRAMS THAT WE OFFER, THE TREMENDOUS VALUE TO THE STATE OF
TREMENDOUS VALUE TO THE STATE OF INDIANA, AND I THINK THAT THE
INDIANA, AND I THINK THAT THE ABILITY OF THE STATE TO BACK
ABILITY OF THE STATE TO BACK THAT UP AND CONTINUE THAT VERY
THAT UP AND CONTINUE THAT VERY POSITIVE TRAJECTORY IS WHAT
POSITIVE TRAJECTORY IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
WE'RE LOOKING FOR. >> IN 30 SECONDS, WHAT DO YOU
>> IN 30 SECONDS, WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM THE LEGISLATORS?
NEED FROM THE LEGISLATORS? >> I'M GOING TO BE VERY SELFISH.
>> I'M GOING TO BE VERY SELFISH. I NEED FOR THE LEGISLATURE TO
I NEED FOR THE LEGISLATURE TO APPROVE OUR PHASE II
APPROVE OUR PHASE II CONSTRUCTION PROJECT HERE IN
CONSTRUCTION PROJECT HERE IN BLOOMINGTON SO WE CAN EXPAND OUR
BLOOMINGTON SO WE CAN EXPAND OUR CAMPUS.
CAMPUS. WE HAVE MORE THAN DOUBLED THE
WE HAVE MORE THAN DOUBLED THE SIZE OF OUR STUDENT BODY.
SIZE OF OUR STUDENT BODY. IF THERE'S AN EXPECTATION WE'RE
IF THERE'S AN EXPECTATION WE'RE GOING TO DOUBLE AND TRIPLE
GOING TO DOUBLE AND TRIPLE GRADUATION RATES OVER THE NEXT
GRADUATION RATES OVER THE NEXT 15 YEARS WE'RE NOT ONLY OUT OF
15 YEARS WE'RE NOT ONLY OUT OF SPACE BUT SPENDING HALF A
SPACE BUT SPENDING HALF A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR TO LEASE
MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR TO LEASE SPACE.
SPACE. SO WE NEED RELIEF FROM RENTAL
SO WE NEED RELIEF FROM RENTAL PRICES WE'RE PAYING, AND IF
PRICES WE'RE PAYING, AND IF WE'RE GOING TO GROW OUR
WE'RE GOING TO GROW OUR ENENROLLMENT SPACE.
ENENROLLMENT SPACE. >> WE NEED AN OPPORTUNITY FOR
>> WE NEED AN OPPORTUNITY FOR DIALOGUE TO TALK ABOUT THE
DIALOGUE TO TALK ABOUT THE POSITIVE CONTRIBUTION THAT
POSITIVE CONTRIBUTION THAT HIGHER EDUCATION AND IN
HIGHER EDUCATION AND IN PARTICULAR PURDUE IN OUR CASE
PARTICULAR PURDUE IN OUR CASE CAN MAKE TO THE ECONOMY AND TO
CAN MAKE TO THE ECONOMY AND TO THE FUTURE OF THE STATE.
THE FUTURE OF THE STATE. >> THIS IS ONE OF THOSE TYPES OF
>> THIS IS ONE OF THOSE TYPES OF TOPICS THAT WE NEVER QUITE GET
TOPICS THAT WE NEVER QUITE GET TO EVERYTHING WE WANT TO GET TO,
TO EVERYTHING WE WANT TO GET TO, AND I HOPE WE'LL BE ABLE TO
AND I HOPE WE'LL BE ABLE TO CONTINUE A CONVERSATION WITH THE
CONTINUE A CONVERSATION WITH THE THREE OF YOU, AND WE WANT TO
THREE OF YOU, AND WE WANT TO CERTAINLY ENCOURAGE ALL OF OUR
CERTAINLY ENCOURAGE ALL OF OUR VIEWERS AND OUR LISTENERS TO BE
VIEWERS AND OUR LISTENERS TO BE A PART OF THESE SORTS OF
A PART OF THESE SORTS OF CONVERSATION AS WELL AND WE'LL
CONVERSATION AS WELL AND WE'LL PROVIDE THEM OPPORTUNITIES TO
PROVIDE THEM OPPORTUNITIES TO GET A HOLD OF THE UNIVERSITY
GET A HOLD OF THE UNIVERSITY REPRESENTATIVES AND HOPEFULLY WE
REPRESENTATIVES AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN CONTINUE THAT DISCUSSION
CAN CONTINUE THAT DISCUSSION WELL AFTER THIS PROGRAM IS IN
WELL AFTER THIS PROGRAM IS IN THE CAN SOMEWHERE.
THE CAN SOMEWHERE. BUT THANKS SO MUCH TO THE THREE
BUT THANKS SO MUCH TO THE THREE OF YOU FOR COMING IN AND FOR
OF YOU FOR COMING IN AND FOR HELPING US GET THROUGH SOME OF
HELPING US GET THROUGH SOME OF THESE ISSUES AND WE'LL WATCH HOW
THESE ISSUES AND WE'LL WATCH HOW THEY AFFECT YOUR UNIVERSITIES AS
THEY AFFECT YOUR UNIVERSITIES AS THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION GOES ON.
THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION GOES ON. >> THANK YOU.
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