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(Journalist in studio): I want to hear your opinion
on what's happening even in Renzi's party, not only in the government's party,
if what Beppe Grillo's talking about is really happening. Let's now listen to him, interviewed by Luca Rosini.
(Beppe Grillo): THEY are the crisis. Full stop.
They have to go away, all of them, right wing, left wing, centre, the ones upstairs and downstairs.
We need the kids of this generation, 18-35, to get pissed off.
They are paying contributions for the pensions of these ones who retire with 30, 20, 10, 15 thousand euros per month.
We need to have them starting to get pissed off, since if you have a degree you'd rather flush it,
and a loan, a home, a future… we've taken these things away from them. It's now that we have to cut pensions,
a young person can't pay pensions for people who retire after two legislatures with 10.000 euros per months while the kid will never see any pension at all.
This is a generational revolution.
We've bankrupted. We have failed, but Europe also has, Germany is failing, from the point of views of principles,
of the Euro, of solidarity, of philosophy, of European culture.
It only is a currency, and banks, and now who's getting ready in Italy?
The ex bankers. The bankers?!
Or Monti, Bocconi's president, who goes in tv and says
"We've got debt", but where have you been for five years, on Saturn?
Where the ***…? You're the president of the biggest university of Economics in Italy
and say "There are debts. We now need to…"
Here the revolution can't be done by the judges nor the bankers, but by the citizens
(Interviewer) But you've been saying this for a while, and in reality this has never occurred yet
(Beppe Grillo) A while? It's been two years. There are people who've been repeating the same things for forty years!
(Interviewer) For example? (Beppe Grillo) ***, guys, I… (Crowd) Bravo Grillo!
(Beppe Grillo) Now, when the hospitals won't be able to pay the pharmaceutical companies for the medicines anymore, life saving ones,
the hospitals will shut down.
When we won't be able to afford schools anymore, they'll privatise them.
We're going towards this dream of privatisation, the disappearance of welfare,
which is the biggest *** in the world, because the welfare is a language,
I mean, we're used to having… we were born with public schools, public healthcare, it seems normal to us,
but it's our grandparents' hundred years of battles, you can't let them be taken away by this *** who run on debt,
who do project financing, economical guesswork without a cent in their pockets,
Politics is simple, just a couple of lines: if you have the money you can do this, if you don't have it, you won't do it.
(Interviewer) But there's no more money anyway! Therefore you can't do anything anymore!
(Girl) What do you mean there isn't? There is! (Beppe Grillo) There is money.
Let's start with taking a billion euros per year of electoral refunds given to political parties,
let's start with taking another billion euros for financing newspapers, including yours, for publishers, that's two billion!
Why do you say there isn't? Instead, we find debt money to build t.a.v., the (sicilian) bridge, these useless structures,
let's take the t.a.v.'s money and invest it in CULTURE, in schools, universities and research.
Twenty two billions, they've found it for making a *** hole noone uses!?
There is no money?! Here, they have to go away.
This is the end of an era. The debt one.
The world's debt, not only our own, economy based on debt, on nothing, is finished.
(Journalist in studio) Belpietro, what's going on? Berlusconi is in great difficulty,
but the idea of leadership itself seems to be in great difficulty in our country,
it's as if Italians would not believe in the idea of leadership itself anymore,
Bossi is in difficulty, for the first time last summer he had to leave before time risking a protest,
as I was mentioning before, even Matteo Renzi, who presented himself as the man against the establishment,
starts suffering for the Italian citizen's impatience and Grillo advances…