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again the theme here
me this afternoon this evening
avenues in what we can do about it john's also cut straight to it here a
man
who is uh... all too familiar with the news
are a veteran in this country a man who still serves in the reserves annum and a
man who is on a crusade a campaign to educate
the american people
not only about the new is if you will from the middle east and our soldiers in
this war
but perhaps to offer them a broader and more complete context about these wars
and apac
toward solution
so that we can and then and at least be honest about why it is that we fight
them john
and his organization
is both becks that it is an absolute delight to have you here dot and of
course somebody who i
admire and
consider a friend so where did before we get into the conversation of the day if
you will join tell us what what is boat that's what you guys do
well we do a lot of couple because felt the quicker the better so we like the
brain
her life real better peripheral better and i think the highlight
uh... basically what's called uncivil wars or how
policy affects our troops today
co we could talk a lot of other devika not all of it
energy security effect on the top of her because i left
but you have to run
yeah i got back
our national guard troops w_b_n_i_ because they have a question
uproar
methods that they will with regard to profit
at the end of the day
is it too simple to say that your point is that a that
our best and brightest our youngest and bravest were however you want to
characterize the american army but no one looks at it with anything other than
great admiration and it's obvious capability but that those ko billy's are
being abused by a government
to serve
energy entrances act too simple on my part
clunk i mean the bottom either
archery beholden to a poor energy policy with
you know i'm sure that they're going to go the middle east over and over and
over again
and certainly i think when you talk about it he security you talk about
uh... from foreign oil
i'd certainly a bachelor security issue first
more than anything because archive military focus our energy resources
uh... but hey you know we put another one point five million dollar barbera
you know obviously another argument
for the energy clout of the legislation but basically said look
when you've got all this
greatest bachelor that reverend and every call tonight though i was
with our gear your msnbc ship talked about the depth of the president
you know offshore drilling the never theater and you can see the only is
about the effort with the disastrous call the diver the fact that
the fact that actual guard at the oakland at the back
that sort of out today the dallas the pat capacitor decried the legislation
i'm not sure what it is because of the story that but probably the most of what
collapse mob
and it's really a problem congressman presently dak at the park long-term
solution stop her
andy purity
brother climate right because they're both interconnected you mentioned that
you didn't do add today the million five spend spot at places like msnbc thank
you i know that you uh... albarn students who were sponsor
my own program and i would appreciate your support of our message as it as you
know it's very much and alignment
with your own message
if you were to look at though it what anybody could do if i would to go back
to the dot org
what is it that's up my mother can do that jodie evans overcoat prelude to
heart julie are really i want to help what did he do
goto perfect dot org at at when you go to vote that dot org fired up
every
couple todd but we could probably get an email back into my name one of our other
battered pinnacle you what you have to do
everyday doubt that are prepared we lost one point five million dollar at
i would hope that we are about ten minutes obligated
half patrick murphy's revolution
to repeal the don't ask don't tell pent up at a party
id a
deccan gymkhana spared
from buff
philadelphia pennsylvania who is the first iraq were elected to congress
and weeping any further we helped elect blow up a quack too many
given the money rate the money
uh... we hope that they'll get about hit out that we have a bigger place ahead of
the got out of that
federal services committee today
we have a pic botha leftover both occurs where you can flat-out and you can
always find out what effect the committed to playing with them on energy
independence
tomorrow but what we were talking about that itself
next week will probably talk about just got back in a big way of the overall
inspector and how we can support him go reported effectively pennsylvania
pretty the protective gear was better like the contrato
if you want to find out what's going on the better through the everyday or
capital you want to be out you can make a difference
i got to go to pope at the top of the huts all the people fired up over there
over fifty thousand of a military families are better
if you're not going to still find out because in the future of our country
the most important support for better action about better
the only one third of one percent of the population serving and that conflict
with the only probably part of the track toward military abt we are dependent
upon and young better to be kind of the park a lot of our better support our
shoes to every word local to find out that and what i'd like to make a
difference every day who co-authored a study group
to make a difference of arson and you know you have by support
every step of the way johnnie do you think people understand
that we have had an army and actively engaged combat military
in the middle east
for decade now
has been a largely the same individuals the same and the same women
being sent
over and over and over again
into
what can only be characterized as the closest thing the at its worst to hell
on earth
as a way of fact that we to protect the balance of the population from really
being exposed to what's going on
botanical
no doubt
this good
this they should have heard from the moment
because no i don't think america really understand pre-war
the periphery phil understand that is because they don't feel threatened every
day
adecco if it's not like o he'll be invaded iraq if it was actually pick up
the fire that was going to be you know an attack on the united states up
i would be feel that threat
this weekend is going to be memorial day weekend
for people of the military though it it's not ok to protest any warts product
that you support me or to today that you remember that has died
in war
uh... most americans as we can we come up on the beach little bag if it would
be a good thing that the party dot
for memorial day in the country is three day weekend
adn although they have monday off
you know you know
of cultural shift of this country that's got a little modeling go too far dot
with most importantly better and better than it was clear that
better ballooned
those seventy better
would go as they have to do a moral do what they should do which is remember
the frances died
and in
or the family members and thought it was because of we don't remember first that
that the rep society won't care stuff
i think you know
not only today dot no guys out there with you all the time because they don't
feel it but i think we've gotten away from service in this country we have to
a few people survey that i think it's a real big problem how much of the media
responsible for that
by virtue of
the nature of its coverage of these wars
well i you know that the company network if you're talking about going up and i
think they're mccormick c_p_r_ robert job talking about the war
itself and i actually think from your computer networks do also
but when you start looking at what we're promoting the regard
to you know the other tv station for people watch
and those types of things
i think when you want to cell
act you want ratings
it's very hard for people with trauma did every day
and and watch a war and i think after a while the cabbie reprint that count
the comport the weather report so if people want to watch the station
and they want to watch him yell at you admit station break out of europe
how the price of the worst-covered in the air national park is different from
ours
and although i think will lose
archibald for the most part like to cover the war
out really mainstream the more close to the more the mainstream media
hopped up and do that the due diligence
uh... the american or the international press of some of our cable networks try
to do both
most people
choose not to watch cable news that supports that
such as your question about afghanistan john
when i talked to and this is only anecdotal i don't claim this is any
grand analysis
but when i have the opportunity to speak to either soldiers who are currently
serving in afghanistan
have recently returned from afghanistan
and i say this on the show
and ask them i say
why is it
when you come under assault when you you are under a violent assault on with
direct threat to your life into the life of those you are working with
and i say why it
are you order that assault what is it
that is provoking that assault
too often the answer that i get is we're trying to protect ourselves
from losing our lives
because were there
that being there
is the risk
is that
the case
and what is the sense
day-to-day forget the grand policy the state department day-to-day you wake up
you have coffee he put on your pants and you go to work and you're an american
soldier in afghanistan
what is the definition of the mission
for those who are there not in the grand presidential sense but in the database
sense i wake up
i've had a cup of coffee and it's uh... at the sun is arising
while by their
i couldn't go forward
you after fundamental
real question and i think but a lot of people are going to feel differently at
the lobby got mauled that gets adversely rock
uh... but one of the major sort of things that certainly talked up by the
president's but the left point on the phone from the cable networks
people got up there from really fancy edges about what we have kissed and the
probably go ask soldiers who are
in the field for that
of anybody can give you a real good answers to what that michigan
huge red flag now that the commander in the military mission in afghanistan
but the complexity of what this administration shows which i do i think
it's
this something up for debate
until unfortunately where it put our troops now it in a posture of today when
i wake up omitted dot dot
that it sort of were both with her or bring it back to where your troops on
the ground pinocchio
my role in a couple we attack you're going to be out in a jocular killzone or
obligate later could not provide medical support
the prisoners were a bit
the most the proper so they're going to every day in both of these conflict is
mary tactical
sort of about half of them what their job is
there is a very
sort of of
exterior what the strategic spread it out
the larger question it tomo people get shot at how they were spotted a
quadratic
the president's brought in to this point try to call counter insurgency
operations in philadelphia traits guys
op the other action approach that the fact of the figures are democrats and
republicans literally sold the president on what counterinsurgency strategy open
olive
i'm both excited to which we wanted to ask if it were mostly because we oppose
point of the bible study for our country
what it will crawford economically to do it
that it would require president cause i to be a legitimate part of pete
but it will require the pakistanis who want to play
a factory alcohol to protect copper that you put more troops in afghanistan you
can provide security which is what the crystal strut itself
chemicals are everywhere to provide security
okay flip great
but we don't really have a very tricky process at our government to go to give
the help
we've got problems with the posture not because i don't whether or not
you don't think you'll be able to get a little if you caroline drug water
and we certainly have issued on where the pakistani dartmouth debate though
when you're only showed up
you can be arbitrate property you know architecture for twenty-five for the
quick and do you want to get to get that situation where
you'll be with the military and you put them into the situation would rather so
complex
until i would certainly would've route for the president should keeps them not
put a compliment to give a tip
because i do feel that love that we have a right to get anyplace in awarding com
but
i think it's scope in its mission focus
completely probably taken away from the point strategy in completely focused dot
outcry that terror elevator operator tricked their country
because no matter how much
troop you put any control over this world
outcry to combat move
uh... they can attack it
and week expect trillions of dollars chasing go follow grad gifted or other
state of italy's exposed hundreds of thousands of troops
to multiple deployment the effect of going to have on the credit for a long
time
very high cost analysis
but most likely what you're going to get in counterterrorism operations
i had reviewed unexpected applaud
loudly enough or aggressively enough europe
efforts every single day
too
deliver the news so-to-speak and more importantly provided avenue a mechanism
for people to feel empowered to get educated for those of us who are not
veterans but who are incredibly incredibly empathetic
to what our veterans interactive's but service members are going through so
that we could help so that we can apply the political pressure so that we can
apply the observation of the cost of this war not just the grand ambitions of
this war but a real understanding of the cost of this war and the real leverage
when it comes to things like energy jonah again thank you so much for what
you're doing jun salts vote that's dot org it's worth of being a part
of this community
for the simple reason that it is the lives of our brothers and sisters
who are
halfway around the world everyday
attempting
to serve to the fullest of their ability
their obligations to our military which has been deployed on our behalf
that it is our obligation to look out for their best interests every single
day and a hold our government to account
to the extent to which
it passes the buck and seeks effectively convenient political solutions they come
at the expense
of the american citizenry
or our soldiers both that's dot org
if you're not already involved with it did truly
is
one of the best places that i've seen
in connecting of the dots on this
war not just the grand policy not just the security not just the energy not
just
out the revolving door folger's but the entire matrix which is critical
obviously
if we're going to do anything about it so i get thanks to john for giving us a
slice of his afternoon