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he had uh... set on the program
with or helicopters rather work homosexual
uh... is it a lot of the not allowed to uh... is a defensive not offensive
and uh... and explain why some people at the defense to it
and i said i was in bonn
and dennis errors he is the managing editor of
uh... after opened dot com
and he was a by lab was a mba
regain your them by what i would say actually and so he took issue with what i had to say
in the rowe-double blunt about it and guess what
that's on the show always try to sort cell i had written a blog on examiner dot com
about and you say they came out that show that that's students of homosexual parents
are gay parents
uh... did just as well as students who had straight parents and it was a very positive
live uh...
written about the gay community and how gay should be allowed to adopt
use homosexual several times in the blog
and i got a couple
all email saying hey you know what that uh... term homosexuals offense ad that has a negative
chen please don't use that
and i didn't really understand why and i i wasn't buying it either and then i went kind
of a little research and i found studies that explains why it has an egg connotation
the way people perceive the gay community when they're described as homosexuals
is usually a negative thing so
that i i'd slowly became convinced that okay maybe
need homosexual isn't the best way to i'd describe them let me just call them days and
it'll be fine
on and so that's the issue at hand dennis is back with us now uh...
yet dispersed thanks for joining sui appreciate it
arbitrary yet lead on this show we try to sort things right and we try to have reasonable
conversations sometimes at the service on and i've done quite work out
but they opera i'd think we have a good conversation
so first off
let the all all use at home no
why do you think homosexual might be offensive war
if you pics ok uh... absolutely rhetoric rehearses echo
actually think it's an offensive word i just think that there are some
negative implications do you think that
and all i think the reason why it as on a pointed out the other day
sixteen percent drop in public
opinion is that who's a
pretty clear indicator that there
you know there's a problem with using that word and at the reason why i think that is
is it because it's got the word faction and and and what that does
it makes people think about
to guide having tax
and d
i mean the there's nothing wrong with the word and
derided clinically described
good
what it is but but by using that word you do a fact
public opinion and so you know i i don't think anybody have actually calling for a ban on
the world *** but if you have a choice between in a different
word to you that probably not the best one to you
now to be fair like others original keys like i went back and read that if i didn't have
a problem with that at all
i mean she didn't you thomas daschle of the title of the peace anything like that
and if you're a write a paragraph and you have to stay
gate couple
five times in the fare if you don't have to come up with a synonym here and there
uh... i i just would hope that like
gay allies with with maybe think that will homosexual isn't necessarily the best talking
to you
and to the problem that i had with the fact that the other night was not using on factual
or not the original article purchase
just sort of dismissing that whole argument and trying to make a stand on promote the
saved the world homosexual which i don't think really
i don't think it's much real world value to do it not
stands
ain uh... i when i read your blog there was one part where you said me explaining wide
the word homosexual is uh... a negative thing you explain that that is detrimental to the
gay community can you explain why that is
well anydvd caught that
sixteen percent drop in public opinion
and you know you assume that that
that that played out
then uh... i mean
public opinion is
so almost evenly split on the issue of gay rights on gave a military gay marriage
deduction and so
that's where i can get it didn't work out a big heart because like for me like it if
you could if i'm reading a new fighting it all you know homosexual lapierre whatever
uh... i mean i can't really identified that as not necessarily
a friend of the gay community dot i mean and silk
for it
i mean nobody if you're saying never used the word on the part about the ridiculous
i mean how do you do it on for everybody dot in
you know
i think
it would be a mistake for people to stand on printer bolen product
west that word back from
the religious right now would make it
'cause i i don't think buchanan's
i don't think there's any way too
salvaged outward and escaped up
the *** connotations of a so that's coming up
so so that up on the one day number six was have a conversation because love
so while i myself first is the number of reasons why for assault homosexual is
technically that absolutely correct work so i don't like seating a word that is correct
and by seeing if i mean
the right winger strident smear people by calling them homosexual
as if that botanically correct term should be something pat
now so i don't like seeing that for them it's like i
you know
i'm actually
i don't do you myself as a liberal idea myself as a moderate
but i will defend being a liberal and i'll plant the flag assayed if you call me a liberal
damn straight i am right because i'm not gonna see that work for them as it like it's a jury
thing or a bad thing to run away from so right you know i'm writing a wider i'm permit haha
but we take the phyto
well i i uh... you know that backup fair
that's a fair argument but but in a practical sent
i think if you call somebody a homosexual and there's a little old churchgoing lady
listening to you
that's gonna
prepare register a little bit differently than if you call somebody getting
at night and language printable
uh... you know i got to work this and just kind of perspective
i'm blown away by that because the little old ladies like a day rocks but she homosexuals
wrong
really i'm but the numbers bear out so i get that right
the reason why this uh... conversations so interesting is because
the workday issues in a derogatory way all the time and issues that the you know by right
wingers by by kids by teenagers they'll say things like mom and your day
right and no use in a derogatory way so i thought that has a negative connotation and
homosexual is safer way to play it
right now i know you're absolutely right and it's kind of a sticky wicket but
but my particular and and again the gay community is not
unify on this particular issue in fact the proposed but i wrote i mean
there was a lot of push back for a return to work
it really angry at me for calling you got salamat that that so i mean it's not like
ill all of the gay community afsane never use the word of the factual
um... button might my issue is you can't really scape the *** connotation can't escape
the word fact within it and i think that's why
the religious right and conservative news organization i think that that's why they
grab it jake toward that trial because they know it happened that negative impact and
so i'd area right there negative connotations with clear with gay with whatever but i'd
be willing to take up the fight to save the work we are at work today
but with homosexual it clicked for me it's like negroni yes it's it's
technically don't
the correct car but i'm not going to go around and call
you know my african-american friends my black print *** attitudes
uh i don't really care about spending network
seek dennis that this is that's why it's so interesting because
by cable that fight on or info for example like this is a matter of where you go on 'cause
when i was going up
actually or it was perfectly acceptable work i'm a little old school right
so that and then at some point it became quite simple and i was mystified by it
and that people's you know it
reasons why it was uh... about coordinate
no sense that because it's all oregon
means it is from the
east and so you know if that's from a western perspective
asia also trustees it doesn't make any sense bill you call carpet story of the local people
were in a while you called
carpets turkish carpets review also call people dervish i think is never understood it but
i i have understood at some point that's it it's over
because people are defended and not by the word oriental
that doesn't make sense to keep using
but on the other hand i think the proceedings that was the word ***
which i would have thought would be more present that all of them let is actually
it appears to be
totally accepted by the gay community and empowered by the gay compute community so
widely admired etc again
you you you're right about that i mean but prepared total different uh...
of opinion on that and it sort of generational like younger people
it like the work we're but older days really don't
so you're right eight the role perot it's really part two
you know understand the rules and that's one of the defense don't use the work on the factual
but anne eight
because of that public opinion polling
and because the religious right like to use it i'm easy
if you had your druthers
you know i personally over four people didn't use it
so just let me ask he's hysteria on and i just looked like this and i get the numbers
than and it's not about
and that's why the begin for the third time it's an interesting times issued is not a
black-and-white issue
it's it's something we're all wheels for with a in a lot of weighs in
and the right wing is expertise hearing words right and air and aspirant people by association
right
uh... by making certain words dirty or unacceptable it's a pain
i think i think one other point however you know with you and dennis but it was a measure
of after ulta dot com after open dot com
but is that
would you have these many different walls
*** okay for some but not others homosexual okay but not others
it so it's a really good and it's not just for the gay community it's
for different races that uh... and the list goes on update
and he keep a peace here
and i think it turns off conversation
which is what i don't want to be i want people to be able to feel free
to have those conversations so they can le
and so that they can find it the people's all can i get it
understand your perspective you see what i'm saying uh...
yet know absolutely right the recruiter and then that's actually why i kinda felt
that's why i had a problem with that better because i felt like it further cut off the
conversation and left
you know your you recuperate impression that anybody
you know that have the problem with the work on the factual rate that is an issue with
somehow being
you know kefir
overly pc here what i i i felt like a look at that i i think whoever jump down on a throat
with kind of
helping
fifty-eight obnoxious but i don't think that
i don't think that this is that you can say that i have
in part that you could feel like you were basically having that person represent the
gay community in it
that's why it you know i responded
the fact that we can
mikey
uh... and i did it look and he got on the census also point
often i will certify and the harvard or or sometimes if you like the supreme court is
arbiter of all things and i will say
yes organic anti-american violence it
but that was are restricted ahead of you know the status
i don't actually the final decision the country
one-day on monday but today is not that bad
so but i appreciate the points that you made by but i see your blood was very interesting
that so we had john
ando and uh... and we're glad to get the time to do it so
about the habitat property and thank you for bringing it back up but i'm glad you got proper
medicare
all right and that's how we do it now so we all learn together and and i said before all
came up and even though that
anybody object to the work homosexual and i didn't know how the right wing was fearing
it and so we learn from that trip
alright everybody check out uh... dennis is website which actually is
its usual site
after elton dot com uh... that's again thanks for being