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>>> excited to share our first-ever "power panel." i like pronouncing things in different
ways. david sirota, radio host, jane hampshire, the founder of fire dog lake, and adam greene.
look at all those lovely progressives. that is an all-star progressive panel. i love it.
guys, first topic is fox news, new report out in "new york" magazine about how they
secretly run the republican party. not sure i'm surprised by that, but i find one of the
quotes interesting. a person said -- you can't run for the republican gnome ways without
talking to roger, and every single candidate has consulted with roger, but he hasn't found
any of them compelling, quote, he finds flaws in every one, said a person familiar with
his thinking. david, let me start with you. is he the boss of the republican party?
>> i think there's something to that. my take is roger ailes is a businessman first. he
works for rupert murdoch and they want to make a lot of money, and they're interested
in having a strong nominee.
especially if it's a conservative candidate that can rally fox's viewership. inch can
he win without kissing his ring?
>> no. it's clear at this point that roger ailes has to say we're going to get behind
a candidate before they can expect to win. in telling fashion, now that he's casting
his gaze on crist christie, the white house is doing opposition research on him. roger
ailes has his limits, he thinks glenn beck is -- and sarah palin made a huge blunder.
this is when so much media consolidation is in the power of one person and roger ailes
has successfully leveraged the ever-expanding empire to where he can virtually block out
the sun.
>> and it turns out, you mentioned palin in there. an insider apparently says he thinks
palin is stupid, which is, wow, okay. and of course fox news shot back saying if he
finds who that insider is, he no longer will be an insider, which to me is not much of
a denial.
>> she gave that blood libel speech which may have been the stupid -- --
>> no, absolutely. i think they screwed up here, right? the whole point that fox did, and i
think the most damaging part was they would say we're fair and balanced, the rest of the
news media should listen to us. but look at the other quotes from the article. chris siroti
says he's just got it. we're going into an election period and he doesn't want fox to
be seen as the front of the republican party, referring to roger ailes, of course, but way
too late, right?
>> it would be interesting to see what would happened if a focus group of fox viewers read
this article that really pulled the veneer away from fox. fox's big argument is away
from elitism. this is a gatekeeper role, and also at a point when sarah palin needed a
ride across the nation, fox loaned her their personal corporate jet and gave he a ride.
i actually encourage all fox viewers to read this article.
>> cenk, if i can add one thing to that, what's interesting about this piece is it makes very
clear that fox is not conservative television. it's republicans party television. there's
a big difference between an ideological perspective and having a complete partisan perspective.
i think that's what fox's interest is in, roger ailes' interest, in the republican party
and the political power rather than an ideological message that is based in some sort of conservative
principle.
>> i think that's exactly right. i think you nailed it. when glenn beck goes conservative
and tea party, they liked it in the beginning, and all of a sudden they thought it was getting
out of control and hurting the republican party, not hurting the conservative movement,
and all of a sudden they show glenn beck the door.
>> i think roger ailes is perhaps the most powerful guy in the country, there he is with
chris christie deciding who should be the candidate, inviting him along with rush limbaugh.
i think you guys nailed it. it's the elitism of fox news deciding who will run the country.
didn't they do this before? you know, back in, of course, in 2000 most famously fox news
picked president bush's cousin, and he was the one who declared bush as president. isn't
this part and parcel of the problem and why the rest of the media have to start ignoring
these guys who are clearly a prop ganta machine?
>> absolutely. i don't feel like i can give much insight. this is confirming what we've
been saying for years. the media and fox viewers need to read this article and get out of our
system the fact that fox is in any way, shape or form a legitimate news outlet. it's not.
>> let's stay on presidential politics for a second. trump says he might get back into
the race. let me show you a quick bite here.
>> it was just a decision i made, but who knows, stranger things have happened.
>> you would not rule out a late entry if nothing pans out for the gop?
>> i would not rule it out, no.
>> can i get an across the board agreement from all you guys, trump, clown of the earth,
totally not relevant?
>> absolutely.
>> yeah.
>> i think he's very successful at getting his name in the head lines, and he's done
it once again.
>> we're absolutely clear on that. now, speaking of presidential candidates, biden apparently
in cincinnati told a bunch of funders he might run in 2016. he would be 74 at the time. does
that make any sense?
>> i think it is absurd, but isn't the most absurd. biden's job is going to capitol hill
and being the great compromiser. they're living in bizarro land and not adding anything that
the american public cares about. they're not dealing with the jobs situation, not dealing
with health care, not dealing with the things that americans want. they're listening to
people who think that cudding medicare is a good idea, and biden has to sell this in
2016? i think he'll have a tough time.
>> david and adam, any chance he runs or can win?
>> i think there's a chance that he's going to run. i think it twont be a situation like
al gore in 2000 where he's sort of the presumptive nominee, and i don't think that joe biden
hasn't made it necessarily a name for himself, which i think will probably be necessary for
a democratic candidate in 2016.
>> adam?
>> yeah, 2016 will be an opportunity for us to election a real progressive president.
i don't think an old democrat is the same as a bold progressive. we'll be looking for
that kind of ideal candidate. we need one in 2016.
>> i knew you were going to go there. let's go to the senate races. one? ohio, montana,
missouri, minnesota. i know, adam, you were part of the people that commissioned a poll
in those states. let me show the ohio numbers. when you ask people, hey, are you opposed
to cutting medicare to balance the budget, boy, are they opposed to it. 76%. 61% opposed
to cutting medicate, and 80% opposed to cutting social security. what message do you think
those democratic senators in those races get out of a poll like that?
>> the message is don't even come close to cutting social security, medicare and medicaid
benefits. it's a political loser. myself, jane and david, all of us in the end of 2010
we were toll told as progressives, don't take your ball and go home. get in line, and our
answer is we're supporting democrats, but we warned you if you dropped the ball, your
turnout will not be, we're telling you way in advance, don't go there, do not cut social
security and medicare. it will be those voters in ohio, missouri, and other places. you have
to have principles.
>> they're getting great political capital out of this, saying the republicans are coming
after your medicare. do you think there's a chance they'll strike a deal, cut medicare
and social security anyway?
>> that's been their line all along. we need to cut it to save it so the republicans won't
do it because they'll do worse. the message of this poll should be that is just nothing
that people will ever believe. if you cut it, you cut it. you take away your dr you
have that wonderful ryan vote that's now like the beast that ate cincinnati. and if they
try and say we're going to do this grand compromise, we'll just cut it a little bit, i don't know
why they would do it, but it seems like something they want to do.
>> last thing, dave, remember the president came out and gave a speech and said i'm going
to do three times as many spending cuts as tax increases, basically, can we walk that
back?
>> i think the poll actually, what it does is creates an interesting dynamic where you
may have the senators up for reelection being the ones who are giving voice to the idea
that the president's plan to reduce medicare and potentially cut social security is wrong.
in other words, you may have a situation where these seemingly most electorally vulnerable
democrats are the ones leading the charge within the democratic party to tell the president
he is offbase.
>> all right. well, let's see how it turns out. very interesting, no question. david
sirota, jane hampshire, and adam green, the power panel. thank you guys.