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Hello everybody and welcome to the
Fireside Chat with Graphics Monkey!
So Graphics Monkey doesn't yet know what
the subject will be so I guess we will
surprise him absolutely no idea today's
surprise topic I wanted to ask you what
you think about if in some years the
hardware of the HTC Vive and the Oculus
Rift and all the other devices will add
smell. Smell-O-Vision? Yeah exactly so any software can
just basically emit any odor and they
can basically simulate like smell of
anything you want in the environment You
think that will be popular? There's an
expression online which is "cannot unsee"
which applies to various things which
really don't want to add smell onto that
that we're gonna be going Wireless
that's definite so we've got the battery
packs so we're gonna have to have small
chemical packs and we can go outside and
we can go in the garden and I don't
really want to be standing in the garden
moves ahead set on lots of battery packs
and small bottles connected I'm gonna
look like a bummer yeah I mean all the
chemicals with you but transmitted the
smell because you need something on the
other end to actually spray it and it
gets sticky enough inside the headset
what do you think instead of say the
analog spraying what if it's some kind
of brain chip and it will just simulate
whatever ... the brain needs to
have simulated to smell basically
like cut the middleman which is the nose
and just go straight to the to
whatever impression is in the brain
really you can you can trick the brain
using the Placebo effect (there's another
word for it) that well if you see an
apple pie and you can see this in coming
up a bit and you already know what the
smell or the taste is you kind of infer
it anyway when you've invented particle
system into Anyland or you invent
particles but you put the smoke
particles in and I felt like I could for
smell
the smoke admittedly it did help that I
was burning something in the garden at
the time! but even afterwards I can
still get the smokey effect so when I
smoke a pipe here my brain to a
degree just will get the memory of a smell
rather than the smell smell-o-vision is
it's a 1950 thing it's one of those
things that sounds like good out there
like a flying car or hoverboard or the
silver Underpants and jumpsuits I still
haven't got silver jumpsuits everyone's
walking around it what if you need it
but what if you needed some
environment what if you needed an
environment where you mix a unforeseen
smell something where there is no
connotation for the further for the user
where there cannot recall from memory
the smell because maybe they want to
let's say I want to give you a tourist
spot in somewhere in India and I want to
communicate the smell in that Indian
town to you but you've never been to
India so I kind of cannot just rely on
recalling the holes of memories "Ah the smell of the Ganges"
if it's not a recollected it would
say it was it's a nice idea but you'd
have to have a huge amount of chemicals
attached yourselves to actually let the
smell out or you'd have to have a brain
implant just for smell so nope not going
to on the smelly stuff there what if his
brain anyone whose smell
what if the brain implant just doubles
and it will do full-body haptics and it
will do anti motion sickness and maybe
just even do the visual part and we just
close our eyes like they're doing the
have you seen the Black Mirror episode
with a whole Star Trek scenery where
this guy VR developer you see now it's
reality where you close your eyes that's
radio yeah see I've watched every loved
Charlie Brooker scene yeah everything
all of his TV shows even the ones that
you've never even heard of everything
apart from his radio show because it's
radio and so I suppose it will go
towards a brain chip right and yet then
you've got the problem of
is just playing in your head or are you
actually taking part it's kind of a
lucid dream
are you actually controlling the dream
or is are you just thinking you're
controlling the dream within the dream
and it's very hard to tell because she
would sleep at the time so yes I've had
this conversation with my kids when they were
about five years old is a dream a dream
or back yeah the Black Mirror episodes
got interesting connotations so then
again so is everything with Black Mirror
and the little egg thing and the Christmas
episode being the best one that was just
disturbinlgy awesome creepy as well yeah I'm
thinking I suppose when it's so
realistic that it's like [indistinguishable]
from from reality then we
get kind of weird sensations when we
take off the headset right I mean I'm
not even sure we will be able to yeah
you would just stay because I guess we
are is the it's the same as reality but
you're invincible right and maybe you
have you have a million dollars to spend
and we are right because it's just
virtual currency and you can buy
everything you want why would you go
back to this kind of meatspace where
you're the poor yeah you've still got to
keep the body alive and do all that kind
of stuff you got to pay your electric
bill and all the rest I suppose you
could pay for that with adverts actually
in the virtual reality itself so you
wouldn't technically cuz they'd make
every all the products would be virtual
so that would cut down on most of
consumerism because he wouldn't need a
physical thing so all the factories are
gonna be going downhill everyone will
just be producing stuff for the virtual
environment right so the only things you
still need to do in the meet space would
be I guess eating right digesting right
and all the things that that are
connected to that you would have to
breathe the side effects effects you
would have to breathe you would have to
get some sunlight I suppose I love the
pragmatism of Germans I suppose you'd
have to breathe uh suppose you'll need
sunlight
suppose you want freedom you need some
heater right you need to I suppose yeah
you'd be the basics people nobody
security the you've actually got to come
out he eats and stuff like that you were
you don't want to eat through a tube well
why not why not just in your like
simulate a superb dinner in VR and then
you just get fed whatever whatever you
need in terms of nutrition but you have
this perfect three-course Micheline
dinner and then you just you just get
the tube to feed you actually but you
think you have a great deal there you
have a great meal there wow that kind of
sums up McDonald's is it moment no it's
eating experience and actually having
life and outside and not a controlled
environment it's still going to be
better than a virtual environment but
what is the other thing is if you've got
an invite if you're in a virtual
environment where you can do all this
amazing stuff then and then you get back
to your real world where you can't and
you spend all the time in the virtual
environment and that becomes the norm
and if that becomes the norm then you're
going to be wanting to he wanted the
idea is virtual reality is to escape the
norm degree or at least control the
environment so you have that controlled
environment now this becomes the norm
you want something else because that's
now the norm so but reality virtual they
want virtual virtual reality so in
virtual reality you'll be kind of
sitting inside an apartment training
outside Donald Trump is not the present
of the world so you go into your virtual
reality where you're the king of the
world
and then that gets boring see now going
through a virtual reality which is very
close to this reality except Donald
Trump is just a game show host and not
doing very well
so what it mirrors to the point is you
have all the problems you would have the
wars he would have the famine you
tread in something smelly in the streets
and you get bills through the post etc
that's when it's indistinguishable when
it has the same physics as reality
ok so smellivision