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TALKER WHO HAS SHOWN HE CAN WIN
OVER TRADITIONALLY DEMOCRATIC
VOTERS.
AND THAT HAS A LOT OF PEOPLE
TALKING ABOUT THE FUTURE FOR THE
RUN FOR THE WHITE HOUSE.
JAKE TAPPER HAS SPENT A HECK OF
A LOT OF TIME WITH THIS GOVERNOR
TODAY.
HE JOINS ME LIVE FROM ASBURY
PARK.
JAKE TAPPER, TELL ME ABOUT THE
GOVERNOR.
>> Reporter: GREETINGS FROM NEW
JERSEY, BROOKE.
I GOT TO SPEND SOME TIME WITH
GOVERNOR CHRISTIE TODAY.
AS YOU MENTIONED, PEOPLE ARE
LOOKING TO NEW JERSEY AND
VIRGINIA TO SEE IF THERE'S A
LESSON FOR THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
AS A WHOLE HERE.
GOVERNOR CHRISTIE SAYS THAT HE
BELIEVES THERE IS ONE WHEN IT
COMES TO HOW THE PARTY CAN WIN
THE WHITE HOUSE IN THE FUTURE.
>> I THINK THE PARTY'S GOT TO
FOCUS ON WINNING AGAIN.
YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES I FEEL LIKE
OUR PARTY CARES MORE ABOUT
WINNING THE ARGUMENT THAN THEY
CARE ABOUT WINNING ELECTIONS.
IF YOU DON'T WIN ELECTIONS, YOU
CAN'T GOVERN.
IF YOU CAN'T GOVERN, YOU CAN'T
CHANGE THE DIRECTION OF A STATE
LIKE WE DID IN NEW JERSEY.
SO, YOU KNOW, ONE, I THINK WE
NEED TO GET OURSELF REFOCUSED ON
THAT.
SECONDLY, I THINK SOMETIMES WE
FORGET THAT CANDIDATES MATTER.
IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT A CHECKLIST
OF ISSUES.
IT'S ALSO ABOUT HOW A PERSON
PRESENTS THEMSELVES AS A
CANDIDATE, HOW THEY ARTICULATE
THEIR VIEW ON THINGS IT AND HOW
THEY REACT TO SITUATIONS.
PEOPLE MAKE JUDGMENTS BASED ON
ALL THOSE THINGS.
>> Reporter: NOW, GOVERNOR
CHRISTIE MAINTAINS HE'S NOT A
MODERATE, DESPITE THE FACT THAT
MANY IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
LOOK AT HIM AND BELIEVE HE IS
BECAUSE OF THE WAY HE HAS
GOVERNED HERE IN NEW JERSEY, A
BLUE STATE, A DEMOCRATIC STATE.
HE SAYS HE IS A CONSERVATIVE.
WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT WHAT HE
THINKS THE NATIONAL PARTY NEEDS
TO DO FROM HERE ON IN.
>> I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO TACKLE
THAT.
WE'LL HEAR MUCH MORE OF THAT ON
YOUR SHOW.
BUT LET ME TURN A CORNER AND ASK
YOU ABOUT THE PRESIDENT AND,
LET'S CALL IT WHAT IT IS, A
BROKEN HEALTH CARE PROMISE.
IT'S BROKEN.
YOU HAVE HEARD IT.
I HAVE HEARD IT.
OUR VIEWERS HAVE HEARD IT SO
OFTEN.
WE CAN JUST ABOUT RECITE IT IN
OUR SLEEP.
>> IF YOU LIKE YOUR PRIVATE
HEALTH INSURANCE PLAN, YOU CAN
KEEP IT.
IF YOU LIKE THE PLAN YOU HAVE,
YOU CAN KEEP IT.
IF YOU LIKE THE DOCTOR YOU HAVE,
YOU CAN KEEP YOUR DOCTOR TOO.
WE WILL KEEP THIS PROMISE TO THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE.
IF YOU LIKE YOUR DOCTOR, YOU
WILL BE ABLE TO KEEP YOUR
DOCTOR, PERIOD.
IF YOU LIKE YOUR HEALTH CARE
PLAN, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO KEEP
YOUR HEALTH CARE PLAN, PERIOD.
>> NOW MILLIONS OF FOLKS ARE
FINDING OUT THAT'S NOT TRUE.
NOW WE ALL OF THE SUDDEN ARE
SEEING THE FINE PRINT.
>> WHAT WE SAID WAS YOU COULD
KEEP IT IF --
>> NOW THERE WAS AN IF.
BEFORE YOU COULD KEEP IT,
PERIOD.
NOW YOU CAN KEEP IT --
>> IF IT HASN'T CHANGED SINCE
THE LAW'S PASSED.
>> JAKE TAPPER, YOU HEARD THE
PRESIDENT.
YOU CAN KEEP YOUR INSURANCE, NOT
PERIOD, BUT IF IT HASN'T CHANGED
SINCE OBAMA CARE PASSED.
HOW CAN HE SAY, AS HE SEEMED TO
BE SAYING RIGHT THERE, THAT HE'S
BEEN SAYING ALL ALONG -- WHAT'S
THE MEANING HERE AND
SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS NEW "IF"
CLAUSE?
>> Reporter: IT'S INTERESTING.
I ASKED PRESIDENT OBAMA ABOUT
THIS PROMISE HE WAS MAKING
BECAUSE IT DIDN'T SEEM LIKE YOU
COULD CHANGE SUCH A SIGNIFICANT
PART OF THE ECONOMY AND NOT HAVE
REPERCUSSIONS WHERE PEOPLE HAD
TO GET DIFFERENT INSURANCE OR
WERE FORCED TO CHANGE DOCTORS.
WHAT HE SAID IN 2009 WAS WHAT HE
MEANT WAS IF YOU LIKE YOUR
HEALTH CARE PLAN, THE GOVERNMENT
IS NOT GOING TO FORCE YOU TO
CHANGE IT.
NOW HE'S SAYING SOMETHING
DIFFERENT, A NEW CLAUSE.
SO I DID ASK GOVERNOR CHRISTIE
TODAY, WHO HAS A REPUTATION FOR
BLUNT TALK TO SOME PEOPLE'S
PLEASURE, TO SOME PEOPLE'S
DISPLEASURE, I ASKED HIM WHAT
ADVICE HE WOULD GIVE PRESIDENT
OBAMA ABOUT THIS TROUBLE THAT
HE'S IN ABOUT THIS BROKEN
PROMISE.
>> HERE'S WHAT MY SUGGESTION
WOULD BE TO HIM.
DON'T BE SO CUTE.
AND WHEN YOU MAKE A MISTAKE,
ADMIT IT.
LISTEN, IF IT WAS A MISTAKE IN
2009, IF HE WAS MISTAKEN IN
2009, 2010 ON HIS UNDERSTANDING
OF HOW THE LAW WOULD OPERATE,
THEN JUST ADMIT IT TO PEOPLE.
YOU KNOW WHAT?
I SAID IT, I WAS WRONG.
I'M SORRY AND WE'RE GOING TO TRY
TO FIX THIS AND MAKE IT BETTER.
I THINK PEOPLE WOULD GIVE ANY
LEADER IN THAT CIRCUMSTANCE A
LOT OF CREDIT FOR JUST, YOU
KNOW, OWNING UP TO IT INSTEAD OF
NOW TRYING TO -- LIKE, DON'T
LAWYER IT.
PEOPLE DON'T LIKE LAWYERS.
I'M A LAWYER.
THEY DON'T LIKE THEM.
YOU KNOW?
DON'T LAWYER IT.
WHEN I SAW THAT THIS MORNING --
I SAW THAT THIS MORNING FOR THE
FIRST TIME, AND I THOUGHT, HE'S
LAWYERING IT.
THAT'S BARACK OBAMA THE LAWYER.
>> Reporter: SO BROOKE, THERE
YOU HAVE IT.
DON'T BE SO CUTE.
THIS IS GOVERNOR CHRISTIE'S
SUGGESTION FOR PRESIDENT OBAMA.
DON'T BE SO CUTE, ADMIT WHAT WAS
WRONG, SAY YOU'RE GOING TO FIX
IT, AND BE A LEADER, NOT A
LAWYER.
THAT IS GOVERNOR CHRISTIE'S
ADVICE, UNREQUESTED FOR
PRESIDENT OBAMA.
>> BUT GIVEN NONETHELESS ON
BOARD THAT BUS.
SINCE I HAVE YOU AND I KNOW
YOU'VE BEEN ON A BUS, I DON'T
KNOW IF YOU'VE SEEN THIS.
NEW NUMBERS FROM GALLUP.
THESE APPROVAL RATINGS FOR THE
PRESIDENT NOW DIPPING DOWN TO
39%.
WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT?
>> Reporter: WELL, IT'S BEEN A
ROUGH ROLLOUT FOR OBAMA CARE.
I THINK THAT THE ADMINISTRATION
HAS A CREDIBILITY ISSUE RIGHT
NOW WHEN IT COMES TO THE
COMMENTS THAT PRESIDENT OBAMA
MADE ABOUT BEING ABLE TO KEEP
YOUR DOCTOR.
WE SHOULD POINT OUT THIS AFFECTS
A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF THE
POPULATION, BUT IT'S STILL
MILLIONS OF AMERICANS WHO ARE
NOW BEING FORCED TO CHANGE THEIR
HEALTH CARE PLANS, AND HE ALSO
HAS A CREDIBILITY ISSUE WHEN IT
COMES TO EXPLAINING WHAT HE
MEANT IN 2009.
NOW, I'VE BEEN READING "DOUBLE
DOWN," THE BOOK ABOUT THE 2012
CAMPAIGN.
THAT BOOK IS FILLED OF EXAMPLES
OF ROMNEY AND OBAMA CAMPAIGN
STAFFERS WHO ARE BRILLIANT AND
HAVE WONDERFUL ADVICE FOR
CANDIDATES IF ONLY THEIR
CANDIDATES WEREN'T SO FLAWED.
I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT ONE OF
THOSE BRILLIANT WHITE HOUSE
ADVISERS WILL BE ABLE TO HELP
PRESIDENT OBAMA OUT OF THIS
PICKLE, BROOKE.
>> JAKE TAPPER, THANK YOU SO
MUCH.
WE'LL BE LOOKING FOR YOU, OF
COURSE, ON "THE LEAD" WITH MUCH