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sultan block pursuing doctored
ology at the cuny graduate center and minister among rival
a graduate student at cuny graduate center of the writer an activist uh...
welcome to the program
going to happen initial submission that both of you uh... wrote pieces uh...
that appeared in uh... occupies scenes from occupied america
track like
all right so you are road a happy septa waging non-violence dot org
a minister tell me
rule how long you
were out there in uh... montreal what uh... what what got you out there
carolyn forty-one montreal actually kirit actually atlantic
plane ticket and
tan if anything happened it come up with arcadia just recap happening like i've
been hearing about them for months and uh... secretarial work etc eighteen
again demonic sent up to montreal in particular happening on the streets
panther left that you like
backyard after french atlanta training in the next morning going to talk
earlier there for about four days i think
and uh...
was old and uh... who who did you have a chance to to to speak with
i what we were staying with uh... if large uh... who uh... what kind of hard
actually western organizers dash to your doctors
until and interest in montreal and uh...
yet it is kind of a quick interest rudy and pick up a network of attitude
organizers here in new york city
of people be going back in for two or three oh and so that that it could have
connections to the stand elections that we will happen
and that's going to be really awesome portraits credibility really interesting
time speaking with them
marching with uh... ***-up upkeep and
okay that there are lots of pants where that's it
interesting guy and uh... amount elements of this but uh... minister just
give us some backstory on this i think there's a many of our listeners who had
a big awareness of what's going on up there but this is the law
guest a continuous student protest i'd believe in this uh...
um... in in the in north america sister
the try ironing correcting the recruiter aren't
straight un fifteen de organic anything in the federal and provincial level and
then on our university level and
if requested ladybird it administrator if you go on strike gain
eckardt quickly and protect it
said he got sick
uh... and if you have a retreat for over a hundred days now uh... which executes
on that basically even if he had to
and that um... the provincial government actually happen and that can plane
the content to any classes terry uh... and carrying a collector and uh...
follow early about the company for the time i pop pop
anticipated act on their domestic and in particular take the concurrent
whether the tuition hike
uh... at the government can impose american public and they keep their
a redneck three years
that'll
and so when will we talk about student unions
uh... i think uh...
in this country when we talk about student unions we talk about the place
where
uh... students going to hang out and uh...
to maybe get uh... there's a said there's a snack bar and uh... people
play video games button but in fact uh... there are
actual student
organizations when we talk about students
yet they're a bit unions uh... have a lot of uh... problem actual power i mean
teaching union representatives
kit bond education boards both at the university level as well city level the
provincial level
uh... thereof
the div div div shown up our people a bit about the first strike other which
means i have put on dave's about the reason why
he pushes is lowered and go back to work together that because the student unions
are able to muster a tremendous amount of support from
students uh... i'd read a very broad level without these they put but he kind
of pressure on the ministrations in canada since nineteen sixty that have
effectively
prevented tuition from going opinion
and i'd go back of over the last fifteen fifty years really it's been pretty
amazing
last major strike with in two thousand five
uh...
which uh... which is actually quite important to understand the dynamics of
this strike out
then they did go out strike 'em
one of the union and headed up to strike a deal with the government and so do
united front of to strike ended up breaking and there were some concessions
made
at that point two thousand five and some of the other unions were quite uh...
upset with the way in which he played outside the court that touch other
people left up this time around on the other hand is dead at the total united
front across the board across two unions and uh... um... david benefit
he'd be unified stapling
allende's talk are the largest testified was
are on may twenty second data
estimated it would be three hundred four hundred thousand people on the streets
just to give you an idea of the type of scale that we're talking about here
three hundred four hundred thousand people and uh...
um... i mean it's a on a daily basis
uh... there is
this consistent
protesters in the street is now right
matter and remain any perry
uh... they've been doing that
for for months now on people that have and i think i think the daily may be
protected
mcclanahan clear that they're between when really there
is that the average of three thousand people we were at one thirty five
thousand to ten thousand people finished up out of the people on the street every
night and that you really have any tainted fantasy instead of going back
and elected on prayer
and no one ever expect knowing they've hit my travel agent we are working for
the meeting i think i'll election neighborhoods where they had to keep a
laptop doing their thing bacteria in there
linus getting my feet to them and let that happen in my reasoning is that you
need to make people architecting and then you could read the taking of any
protection
and day will start marching in joined up with a plan for my certificate the
periodic everynight tolerated cd sticker an event that happens you know anything
frustrated about it in
if you cokie richard and the cotton candy period in fact marching
and i a m
hancock is a huge black two thousand two people walking through the city
an accurate record period ang lee hanky repairing the impending yeah but what do
you think she touched upon in your piece in this is this notion that uh... the
groundwork had before
these protests has been delayed
uh... for the past couple years where
students
uh... and i think at one point it someone spoke about opening up a certain
amount of space to to converse talk about that a little bit because i think
all you know as we talk about this and we look at uh... any type of parallels
or any type of lessons for
uh... the occupy movement uh... this is a uh... this seems to be a a very
interesting element
mcintyre and i think when rap and hip hearing actually in the indian coming
clean for other caper handicapped acting
going and i had a very rare how'd that happen and how did you get out of the
people escaped
and i like you know it's ninety k air we've been working on that for years i
think i really think the really important no internet carried out there
activity again um... either clinton kyshin possible
i haven't heard a great week eric we've been working on a three-year began
standing on corner
we've been talking to our colleagues we've been hanging up wired
we've been having discussions etc in union so you can you really can't kick
out of five island but my refueling aircraft to you the community of tuition
hike for cutting and they've been trying to work really hard to build popular
point to keep them
i think they're kind of very narcotraffic way of connecting the
tuition hike
keeping flaking
staggering
um... kit effective to affect agar eddie pollack eighteen i think a back in
canada i took a thing like a doctorate anchor factory but if you get it back
everyone impropriety them
and zoltan of another
another part of of this of course has to do with the
the notion
uh... love
nationalism and
uh... you mentioned that you you you you were standing
hang with uh... mcgill university uh...
uh... organizers as well
uh... and and i i mention that because mcgill is an english-speaking school and
i'm curious as to
um... want what extent dat mcgill has been the students have been involved
all those opposed to
'em a students of from the uh... french-speaking and university
uh... and
in
where we get a wetland
how does that divide play out
right com
well from what i mean understand uh... yet uh... guttenberg and huh
significantly less involved uh... delegate but takaful or universities and
montreal the cops go back
uh...
and uh...
that have to do
from what we understood fertility organizers and he's worried gil
garcetti's reflect upon the gel organizers who had been involved
with terry keenan is for the last few years uh... and have been trying to
organize patio and r block grant you can get interest as well
but it's by their captors mcgill is done
it is that the most elite university in paperback um... it is predominantly
anglophone it's more conservative him uh...
which goes along we could be more elite institution
and there's been a lot less support for g_e_ are protesting strike
the uh... hydrophone universities have been really the hotbed of organizing up
into places with his most dramatic with him where there's more successful uh...
outreach being done and where the kind of vote for the strike really uh... i
came from
and i've displayed them to have a longer history i think i mean all the extra
what they do it bothered to come
whiskeys democrat through them
undertaken deductibles opportunity of course anything to get back to rebut but
uh... that particular history at play here is i mean i'm
the uh...
d_d_t_ confused in go back for a while to more economy um... wanting to die
succession at the level of untouched beauty and go back
uh... and feeling a general level of income oppression coming down from t_v_
a broader anglophone uh...
country in canada and the um... tab subordination of tea
fresh population in quebec so
there is they're definitely have a working class and nationalist flavor to
challenge to protest but it's really important to understand is also kind of
i'm not very well understood and i think that goes into a longer history of the
relationship between the french population in quebec and about our
country of canada
and a feeling of a attack abortion costs identity of the quebec
check up on t_v_ pgp amo really troubling class that you will
um... and my security and go back and my sense is
uh... i don't know which one of you can speak to this more menaces
what can you tell me about bill seventy eight because my understanding is not
only a bill seventy eight was the um... was essentially the
legislation
to to to quash essentially protest in this country and a reaction say in in
um... and come back
and uh... it was uh...
incredibly i guess
damaging for the politicians who supported it and uh...
um generated a lot more protest
the here their credit
pat
uh... they're prepared for crown way um... and retrieve another where people
have been like effecting the connections between
you know increasing tuition and um... protect if you can keep interest in hand
good depression artifact
an interview a penny a blend tactic pat are higher uh...
freedom every family and every department incorrect
and that makes it so that you can have an uncommitted my cannot permit
gathering of more than fifty people ham
and he helped out i think you're trying to keep stinging indignant organizers
directly targeting student leaders and you know i could eventually be planning
things wedding thousands of dollars isaac and and uh...
an art entertaining that you have to give reprieve here march for twenty four
hours in advance
and a contemporary directly attacking underway that that can get down the
street every major key political economic and political impromptu market
something you can't do that anymore
i think i wonder if unprepared
that people very bad like away if they can work on the property special like a
thicker special operates avik and professional i like this to keep the
practiced in the think tank let me try all of our civil liberties and
had people over a period of time
pick it up at
editor it's prodding that that uh... and montreal you now
and go back right now
i'm a lot of good camping out i think that that can get out there again aloft
common paradigm we're expiry uh... recog record sign that they're actually you
know arcade happen after a erected
five hundred people i want to really much earlier and it's really fair
i have no error in quite a long way repeat very very trickery harriet
surrounded by a copyright hearing he decided he landed just correcting
everyone in between them
honestly election card said that that really random right
uh... and really look like that but i think people uh... image gallery
reviewing her feathered not reflecting a monday that everyone's right
to protest to assemble
uh... to expect the fed sold and uh...
what happens next uh... i mean where with whether the what is the the
students obviously ur
uh... are specifically
uh...
focused on rolling back this tuition hike what was the
with is there a sense that that
that could possibly happen sooner or what what what is the what what
what are the organizers anticipating will happen over the next two three
war two or three four months what what what is their timeline what what what
are they anticipate
yet that's really important interesting question i was wondering kepada jane
uh... rocklin and uh... i kind of
witnesses to morris up there i think that um...
uh... you know care if they're quite humble uh... about uh... about the
prospects of getting the victories um...
and uh... i think uh...
that that's always a reluctant to take but i think what we can at the last few
weeks is
attitude referencing a tremendous amount of support uh... is coming out right now
i think that we can get that deterrents government that's the prime minister
uh... really played with this but a special obviously did exceptional august
temporary law which is
uh...
highly regressive really draconian i've had complete failed and it might
missile and that had to make not for concessions because
walled estimate what kind of from understanding end up interest rates
before the special always packed
you know uh... the popular sport has just exploded and
it doesn't really seem like it's gonna dot down over the summer so
i mean i think that cigarettes are hoping is determined to through the
summer which he has a has turned organizes there's always the most
difficult
aspect in school gets out people go into the summer other stop to think that it
had to cancel structure and it's hard to commit to going
they have
dot economic disruptions planned for the summer there's a caches
festivals is not so that you cannot roll over the summer and
to keep the pressure on the government to say we're not going away you can't
just have to simpson's home all hygienic taken seriously i think they're planning
on keeping people protest owing a twenty-one
disrupting uh... elections normal in quebec and i think
what's amazing is that they have to support yourself in the broader
population so i think you can anticipate this basic being around for awhile and
i mean if you think about the big picture everyone back against her
everyone's looking there i got a kind of an artist and struggles which north
america
uh...
as on violent deed
operationally speaking do you think uh...
well what lessons do you think uh... uh... the occupy move
uh... is he can take from this is taking from this
cannot operate the couple question answer but i think that people are
explicitly looking to quebec which that question in mind
uh...
diplomatic action coming on occur it leveled at we don't have to look at
where you can go to organized hate groups
they're going to be a arm assembly this sunday at washington square park
adhering to a blackberry educational rented occupy working groups
that it's going to be explicitly asking this question of what textbooks which
wants to talk about teachers will cut lab education here
uh... of course it's really difficult to transfer to organize instruction to u_s_
conflict and she said we don't have to stop the students talk to you
but there are some real important lessons
full one minister spent like when u
wendy solitude twitches reckon into place which was actually going to play
it
if they were getting two years at that
and that's really paid off for them
for example at thirty five percent three strikes over the next five years
put into place last fall at king
uh... we organize a couple of months transfer protocol mentioned summer camp
west supporters decathlete where they were voting on this
medicare two hundred people out and i think we'd like to mention with a couple
of the whole country we have
if we can put it in organizing couple jersey absolutely who has really become
what we could have uh... accomplished
i think it's also important remember that the police repression happened
after
art architecture twitched i come november twenty first acuity
uh...
gave the rest of contingent
a week later
about three thousand people came out to show support they have to think that
that it's gotten quebec so i think we'll beat but i think you can teach you learn
is that
tried to broaden struggle tried to organize at strictly wished that are
systematic out distinguishing loftier texting apply all across the world right
now uh... i think uh... it's what it takes a last resort in london
tried today to speak with her answers about what types of tactics work in
terms of
pulling up people what type stopped tactics work
the types of things but i think his ongoing conversation against
take a chance on sunday at noon
it public form type of which i can meet by the conversations all the time so i
think it's important mousumi among on all hands on luck thank you so much for
taking the time uh...
to speak to this will put a link to your piece majority dot f_m_ and
as well too
uh... the uh... book to which you contributed occupy scenes from occupied
america thanks for joining us
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