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Announcer: Welcome back to The David Pakman Show.
David: All right, Stefanie Williams is the blogger at ChasingTheJersey.Blogspot.com,
and I'm glad to talk to her. I have so many questions about this. I know my producer is
completely confused, he has a lot of questions. And I don't even know where to start, so first,
what exactly is jersey-chasing?
Stefanie Williams: I think jersey-chasing, or at least to me, it means a lot of different
things to a lot of different people, I think it kind of depends on who you ask, but to
me, it's just kind of having an affinity towards dating athletes and hanging out with athletes,
being attracted to athletes. I think in the mainstream it means girls that tend to date
and sleep with athletes, so...
David: So you start a blog where you actually talk about your exploits with a variety of
different athletes at, I guess we shouldn't really say at the highest level, right? I
mean, Derek Jeter is not on that list yet.
Williams: No, not yet. No, it's not, you know, I preface I think one of the first blog posts
that if people are looking for cheating scandals on, you know, Kobe Bryant or Derek Jeter,
you know, Tiger Woods, those already happened anyway, but it's not going to be that level
of, you know, professional athletes. But I think it's kind of more of a draw, actually,
because it's more... it's easier for more people to relate to because it has to do with
kind of all levels. It has to do with NCAA, it has to do with, you know, minor leagues,
and then professional leagues, NHL, MLB, you know, professional...
David: So it just started as basically, the idea was you wanted to write a book, right,
and then you said well, that's not happening right away, I'm going to start this blog instead?
Williams: Basically. I mean, I had shopped the idea around to a couple literary agents.
One literary agent gave me terrible feedback, told me it was a horrible idea, that I was
going to regret it, that my children would hate me. So then I got a literary agent that
actually was pretty supportive, but the attention just wasn't there, so he suggested I start
a blog, and you know, I started putting some stories up. I kind of took Tucker Max's advice,
he says give some of the best stuff you have for free, it gets people interested. So I
started...
David: Yeah, but so like... so that's a good question. Isn't this something that this stuff
is out there, even if you take the blog down, people could've saved it, this stuff is on
other sites. Are you worried at all that it could affect you in the future? I mean, maybe
you're not planning on going for like, I don't know, a regular job interview where you're
told, you know, those standard interview questions. Tell us about a time where you had to deal
with somebody who was, you know, that standard job interview. Maybe you don't care about
that.
Williams: You know, when I started doing this I had a long talk with my mother about what
I wanted to do with my life, and you know, I don't want to go to law school, I don't
want to work in finance. I want to write, and I think this is a good starting point.
This is a great story.
And the day that... what actually like kickstarted the blog was an article I did on a website
called BroBible, and I remember doing the article, and it went up on a Thursday when
I was at work at the bar, and I think it went viral in like two hours. It got I think 20,000
hits in the first two hours. And I started getting some negative comments on it, and
I had a heart attack. And I remember taking the train home and being like I'm never going
to be able to do anything again, like everyone's going to associate me with this. But then
I got home and I got a couple emails that were really positive, and I kind of got over
it. I think I popped a couple Xanax and I had a glass of wine, I don't think that's
healthy to do before you go to bed.
David: Well, there's no question that you're going to get positive emails because I'm sure
there's tons of guys who just love reading what you're writing. But I'm curious more
from women, because I looked around a little bit at the comments on the stuff that you
write, and it seems like there's some women who say what you're doing is terrible for
women and it objectifies women, so on and so forth, but then there's other women who
actually seem to say you know what? There's this double-standard about sex where men are
allowed to be more promiscuous and talk about sex without the negative connotations that
women receive, and you're just saying you know what? I don't care, this is what I'm
writing about. So there's both sides to it, right?
Williams: Oh, yeah. I mean, actually, I get more emails through the blog from women, you
know, women who kind of are like me, that have dated a hockey player and know that whole
story and dated, you know, dated soccer players or know soccer players or we have mutual friends,
things like that, you know, women that appreciate it.
There are definitely women that hate me. I mean, I've gotten tons of email-- I had one
person email me telling me I need to find Jesus, and she got real mad because I emailed
her back...
David: Well, listen, we've all been told that. I've been told that for, just for being Jewish,
you know?
Williams: Yeah, oh yeah. But my response... my response was terrible, because she... I
turned around and said sweet, what position does he play and what team does he play for?
She was real mad.
But I mean, I think women... it is a double-standard, you know? Everyone, a lot of people call me
the female Tucker Max, and he hates me. He does not like me at all. But...
David: And to clarify, who... Tucker Max is a guy who writes a blog about his exploits
with women, right?
Williams: Yeah, he has a best-selling book, "I Hope They Serve Beer in Hell". It's a great
book, it's really, really funny.
David: Yeah.
Williams: And it is, it's all kind of, you know, d-bag behavior from a guy and ***
exploits and things like that, but...
David: Let me go to my producer Louis on that note, though. I mean, Louis is... Louis is
also a bartender, in addition to working on the show, and Louis is, you know, sometimes
he's graced by the presence of a woman who comes to his bar and he's able to, I don't
know what it is exactly that he does, but I don't know that Louis, you want to go into
it, but what's your reaction to this, Louis? I mean, tell me what you're thinking over
there.
Louis: To this whole thing?
David: Yeah. And I don't know if you can hear him, Stefanie, but I'll make sure you do,
yeah.
Louis: I don't know. [Laughs] It's fine. Sounds like a good outlet for people like Stefanie
and like-minded women.
David: Now the question to you, Louis, is if you were... let's say you met Stefanie--
let's say you were in Stefanie's bar or Stefanie came into your bar.
Louis: Right.
David: And maybe you were interested in, you know, getting a drink or something like that.
If you found out that she's writing about *** exploits online, would that be a turn-off
to you?
Louis: I can't say.
David: Louis isn't sure. I mean, what's been your experience, Stefanie? Is this a hindrance?
Williams: No. I've gone on a couple dates, you know, when people ask what I do, I say,
I start off with the bar and then I say I'm a writer, what are you writing, and I go into
it. I kind of sugar-coat it. I don't explicitly come out and say it's about, you know, who
I've slept with, I say it's about sports and dating, and then you go into it. And you know,
the way I see it, if the guy likes me, he's going to-- and we end up dating, he's going
to find out who I slept with anyway, because I think every... if you date someone and don't
know how many people or who your partner slept with, it's a little weird to me. But you know,
if they're turned off by it, they are. I don't think I have anything else that's totally
negative going for me, so if that's the one thing and, you know, they like everything
else, I don't think it's going to be a huge turn-off.
David: If you get into like a real long-term relationship, though, will you stop the blogging?
I mean, what do you think?
Williams: I don't know. You know, I have the ebook coming out, so I think after that comes
out, the blogging, it's not going to go on hiatus, but it's probably going to slow up
a little bit. I want to give people the chance to read the book and see some new stories.
I don't see myself in a long-term relationship anytime soon. I'm dating around, I'm having
fun, and you know, I'm going to a game next week and seeing a couple of my buddies that
play soccer, and you know, it's... I'm not worried about what's going to happen just
yet, especially with dating, because that hasn't been an issue at all, you know. I've
been single for two and a half years, if it changes tomorrow, I'd be shocked.
David: All right. Well, Louis, there it is. Something for you to think about for sure
as you serve those beers to a variety of women at the bar.
Louis: Right, thanks, Dave.
David: All right, we've been talking to Stefanie Williams, ChasingTheJersey.blogspot.com is
the website. Great to talk to you.
Williams: Likewise. Thanks for having me on.
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