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I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER
MODERATOR.
>> I LIKE THAT, NO FANFARE.
GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERY ONE.
OKAY, I'LL TRY THAT AGAIN.
GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERY ONE!
OKAY, I LIKE THAT, THANK YOU
VERY MU
AFTERNOON TO MODERATE IT BECAUSE
I'M HERE TO LEARN.
I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT WHERE
WE ARE IN AMERICA AS IT RELATES
TO
AS SOMEONE WHO HAS BOUGHT
PROPERTY IN SOUTH FLORIDA
COMMUNITY, IT NOT DISCERNIBLE
WHO IS ONE OF MY
THERE AND I'M CURIOUS ABOUT
DOING THAT SO I'VE BEGUN TO DO
EFFORTS TO SEAT WHO IS RELATED
TO ME, BROTHERS AND SISTERS BY
DIFFERENT MOTHERS, IF YOU
WITHOUT
INTRODUCE MEMBERS OF THE PANEL.
NANCY, BECAUSE I THINK PEOPLE IN
THE BACK CAN'T SEE YOUR CARD,
NANCY.
NANCY IS PROFESSOR OF LAW
POLITICAL AND CIVIL RIGHTS AND
TAX ATION.
SHE HAS LECTURED ON SAME SEX
RELATIONSHIPS AND LGBT AGING.
AND ELDERLY LAW THAT HAS
PRACTICAL PROPOSALS FOR REFORM.
OUR NEXT PAN LIST IS KEN
JOHNSON, GRADUATE OF HARVARD LAW
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND
HUMAN SERVICES, CIVIL RIGHTS
OFFICE.
HE SUPERVISE A TEAM OF CIVIL
RIGHTS ANALYST WHO FOCUSES ON
HEALTH DISPARITIES, FISCAL
ACCESSIBILI
DISCRIMINATION OF AIDS
TREATSMENT AND SERVICES AS WELL
AS OTHER PROGRAMS.
HE PREVIOUSLY SERVED NINE YEARS
AS A SENIOR TRIAL ATTORNEY IN
THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE CIVIL
RIGHTS DIVISION
ERIC IS A DID EASTING ATTORNEY
FOR THE NATION -- DIRECTING
ATTORNEY FOR THE NATIONAL CIVIL
RIGHTS CENTER.
HE SPECIAL EYESES IN NURSING
SUPPORT.
HE CO-COUNCIL LITIGATION ON
BEHALF OF CONSUMERS AND IS THE
AUTHOR OF LAW TERM ADVOCACY AND
CONSUMER GUIDE, 20 COMMON
NURSING HOME PROBLEMS AND HOW T
RESOLVE THEM.
GINA, AN EXPERT IN ***/AIDS
HOUSING HAS LED HER AGENCY, SHE
IS A VOCAL ADVOCATE FOR PEOPLE
SHE IS THE FOUNDER AND BOARD
MEMBER OF THE NATIONAL AIDS
HOUSING COALITION SINCE 1993 AND
A STEERING COMMITTEE MEMBER OF
THE NEW 30 FOR 30 CAMPAIGN WHICH
POSITIVE WOMEN.
GINA WOULD LIKE TO HAVE YOU ALSO
KNOW SHE IS SOON TO BE 59 AND IS
LOOKING FORWARD FOR YOU ALL TO
OF HER AND HER ELDER FRIENDS.
LAURIE COOK AND HAS BEEN AN
ACTIVE -- HAS BEEN ACTIVE IN
DECADES.
IN 1998 SHE FOUNDED AT TRANS
AGING NETWORK, NOW A PARTNER IN
THE CENTER FOR LGBT AGING.
SHE IS CURRENTLY POLICY DIRECTOR
FOR A
ORGANIZATION IN MILWAUKEE.
LAST IS HILLARY MAYER, THIS THE
AOA FUNDED DIRECTOR OF NAWNSAL
RESOURCE CENTER AND PROJECT
OFFICER VISIONS,
LGBT ELDERS KNOWN AS SAGE.
PRIOR TO HER WORK THERE SHE WAS
THE FAIR COURTS
SHE RECEIVED HER JD FROM RUTGERS
LAW SCHOOL.
THAT'S OUR PANEL.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH,
CHRISTOPHER, AND I WOULD JUST
LIKE TO ADD MY VOICE TO THOSE
WHO HAVE BEEN SAYING HOW
I'D LIKE TO THANK THE FOLKS AT
HUD AND HHS AS WELL AS MYA
RUPPART FOR PUTTING THIS
TOGETHER.
IT'S ENCOURAGING TO SEE THIS
FAMILY AND
IN SORT OF A FEARFUL SIGNS, SOME
AN AREA, EVEN THOUGH HE WAS NOT
SURROUNDED DAY IN AND DAY OUT BY
OTHER RESIDENTS WHO WERE.
THIS CAN LEAD TO DISASTER AND,
INDEED, THIS GENTLEMAN HANGED
HIMSELF.
THERE WAS NOBODY MAKING A VIDEO
FOR HIM, SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN
START TO
THANK YOU.
[APPLAUSE]
>> I'D LIKE TO THANK MY
COLLEAGUES FROM HUD FOR INVITING
ME HERE TODAY.
I JUST WANT TO TELL A COUPLE
STORIES TO START.
IN 1999 I WAS AN
CIVIL RIGHTS DIVISION AT THE
DEPARTMENT OF
IT CAME OUT THIS YEAR AFFECTING
COMMUNICATION, FAMILY CENTERED
CARE FOR THE
TRANSGENDERED.
IT OUTLINES THE WAY THAT NURSING
HOMES CAN PROVIDE
LGBT COMMUNITY.
FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE
ATTORNEYS OR ADVOCATES IT TALKS
ABOUT WAYS WE CAN USE OUR
EXISTING STATUTES AND
REGULATIONS TO PROTECT THE
RIGHTS OF GAY MEN AND LESBIANS.
FOR
THERE IS NO FEDERAL STATUTE THAT
PROHIBITS DISCRIMINATION ON THE
BASIS OF *** ORIENTATION.
THERE IS NO FEDERAL STATUTE THAT
PROHIBITS DISCRIMINATION ON THE
BASIS OF
WE CAN USE THE HILL BUTON ACT,
TITLE 9, TITLE VI, SECTION 504,
THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITY
ACT AND THE HEALTH INSURANCE
PORTABILITY AND
PARTED.
SPECIFICALLY TODAY I WANT TO
TALK ABOUT HOW THE HHS OFFICE
FOR CIVIL RIGHTS ENFORCES
SECTIO
REHABILITATION ACT
THE NURSING HOME CONTEXT.
WHAT WE HAVE FOUND IN OUR OFFICE
IS THAT YEARS AGO HOSPITALS HAD
TO ADJUST TO PROVIDING CARE AND
TREATMENT TO *** POSITIVE MEN.
HOWEVER, IT'
TIME FOR THE MEDICAL BREAK
THROUGHS TO GET TO THE POINT
WHERE *** POSITIVE MEN ARE
LIVING TO BE SENIORS IN NEED OF
SKILLED NURSING SERVICES.
THE SAD PART OF THAT IS THAT
NURSING HOMES HAVE BEEN VERY
PROVIDING COMPETENT CARE, AND
WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN THESE CASES
IS USED SECTION 504 AND THE ADA
HEALTH
FUNDS ARE PROHIBITING FROM NOT
PROVIDING TO *** PATIENTS ON THE
BASIS OF THEIR DISABILITIES.
I JUST WANT TO GO STRAIGHT T
AND TALK ABOUT OUR PARTNERSHIPS
WITH SOME ORGANIZATIONS THAT
HAVE FILED WITH US AND I DON'T
WANT TO BEAT AROUND THE BUSH
ABOUT THIS.
I THINK CHANGE HAPPENS WHEN YOU
WHO ARE
TRUST THE FEDERAL AGENCIES
ENOUGH TO ACTUALLY FILE
COMPLAINTS WITH US.
AIDS LEGAL COUNCIL OF CHICAGO
DID THAT, THEY FILED ON BEHALF
OF AN INDIVIDUAL WHO HAD
DENIED ADMITTANCE TO A NURSING
HOME.
THEY H
IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE TO DO
THAT IN THE FUTURE WE'D LIKE YOU
TO HAVE NEW
NEW NONDISCRIMINATION POLICIES.
WE WANT YOUR STAFF TO BE TR
IS ANOTHER CASE ABOUT A NURSING
HOME WHO ESSENTIALLY DENIED
ADMISSION TO A PLACEMENT, THERE
WAS NO PLACE ELSE FOR HIM TO GO,
HE WENT TO A BOARD AND CARE
FACILITY WHICH I THINK WOULD BE
IN CALIFORNIA THEY CAN'T GIVE
*** CARE.
HE WAS IN THE LAST STAGES OF
AIDS, NO IV HYDRATION, NO
MORPHINE DRIP.
I CAN'T IMAGINE HOW HORRIBLE
THAT WAS.
HE DIED TWO MONTHS LATER AND
THAT WAS A CASE WHERE WE ISSUED
A VIOLATION LETTER OF
IN OUR PROCESS IF WE ISSUE A
VIOLATION LETTER OF FINDING THE
COVERED ENTITY HAS TO EITHER
TAKE CORRECTIVE ACTION OR WE ARE
GOING TO THE HHS DEPARTMENT
APPEALS BOARD TO TERMINATE
FEDERAL ASSISTANCE.
IN THIS CASE
AGREED TO NEW NURSING
PROCEDURES, REASONABLE
ACCOMMODATIONS AND STAFF
TRAINING ON BOTH HIPPA AND
UNIVERSAL PRECAUTION.
WE SENT THEM TO AN AIDS
EDUCATION TRAINING CENTER WHICH
WERE TRAINED ON APPROPRIATE
LEVELS OF CARE.
I WANT YOU TO CONSIDER FILING
WITH US, FILING WITH HUD, FILING
WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
BECAUSE THERE ALWAYS SHOULD BE A
FIRST CASE AND I THINK
RECENT NEW STATUTES AND THETESTED.
>> THANKS VERY MUCH, KEN.
I WANT TO START
REPORT WE DID WITH SOME OTHER
ORGANIZATIONS RELEASED EARLIER
THIS YEAR, SURVEYED LGBT ELDERS
WHO HAD EXPERIENCED TIME IN LONG
TERM CARE FACILITY AND ALSO
SURVEYED SER
OTHERS AND BROUGHT UP A LOT OF
STORIES FROM THE FIELD.
RAISED SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT
HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED EARLIER
TODAY ABOUT THE UNEASINESS THAT
FOLKS FELT IN THIS SITUATION,
GOOD STORIES BUT ALSO SOME
DIFFICULT ONES IN D
FELT FROM SERVICE PROVIDERS OR
FROM OTHER RESIDENTS AND IT'S
NOT MY TOPIC HERE TODAY BUT I
WANTED TO NOTE IT, TO NOTE THAT
IT IS AVAILABLE ON THE INTERNET
AND ALSO TO NOTE I BROUGHT A
COUPLE DOZEN HARD COPIES WITH ME
AND LEFT
OUTSIDE THE FRONT DOOR.
PLEASE FEEL FREE TO TAKE A COPY
OR TWO AND BRING IT HOME YOU
WITH.
MY TOPIC TODAY IS ONE OF THE
LEGAL BARRIERS TO ACCESSING
HOUSING AND LONG TERM CARE,
SPECIFICALLY THE MEDICAID
PARTICULARLY RELEVANT HERE
BECAUSE MARRIAGE AND THE
DEFINITION OF MARRIAGE PLAYS
INTO THE TYPE OF PROTECTIONS
THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR THE
SPOUSE, FOR THE PARTNER AND THE
FEDERAL LAW IN THIS CA
VERY CLEARLY DISTINGUISH BETWEEN
HETEROSEXUAL COUPLES AND LGBT
COUPLES AND IN A WAY THAT IS
DETRIMENTAL TO THE LGBT
COMMUNITY.
MICHAEL MENTIONED THIS IN A
BRIEF BULLET THIS
POINTED OUT THERE IS SOME
IMPROVEMENT IN THE AREA, INDEED,
BECAUSE OF THAT THIS
PRESENTATION IS BOTH POINTING
OUT A PROBLEM AND FLAGGING SOME
IMPROVEMENT THAT HAS HAPPENED IN
THE LAST 12 MONTHS.
THE BIG PICTURE
THINGS ARE NOT PARTICULARLY GOOD
HERE BUT THEY ARE GETTING BETTER
AND WE CAN SEE SOME PROGRESS IN
THIS AREA THAT GIVES PROTECTION
TO PARTNERS THAT THEY DIDN'T
HAVE 12 MONTHS AGO.
FIRST GOING BACK 20 PLUS YEARS
PROTECTION FROM MARRIED COUPLES,
PERIOD, AND THE PROBLEM IS, OF
COURSE, NURSING FACILITY CARRIES
EXTRAORDINARILY EXPENSIVE AND IF
A SPOUSE IS IN A NURSING
FACILITY AND PAYING FOUR, FIVE,
SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT THOUSAND
MIGHT BE, THE COUPLE SEE WHAT
THEY THOUGHT MIGHT BE THEIR LIFE
SAVINGS, WHAT THEY THOUGHT TO
LIVE ON FOR DECADES GO FROM
HEALTHY TO ROCK BOTTOM.
IN THE LATE 80s CONGRESS
INSTITUTED SOME SPOUSAL IMPOLICE
OFFICERRERMENT PROTECTIONS TO
THEY WOULD BE AVAILABLE ACROSS
THE BOARD WITHOUT ESTATE
PLANNING THAT WAS USED UP TO
THAT POINT.
TO THAT POINT WHAT COUPLES HAD
TO DO WHICH IS REALLY A
COMMENT ON THE LAW AT THE TIME
WAS TO SEPARATE THEMSELVES
LEGALLY TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, THE
SICK SPOUSE WOULD TAKE HIS OR
HER RESOURCES AND SEPARATE HIS
OR HER RESOURCES FROM THE
RESOURCES OF THE S
GO TO MEDICAID AND BE ABLE TO
SAY, LOOK, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING
AND APPLY ON THAT BASIS BUT WHAT
MEDICAID WANTED WAS A FAIR EXIST
THEME LOOKED AT THE RESOURCES OF
THE ENTIRE COUPLE BUT RECOGNIZE
THE SYSTEM SHOULD BE SET UP IN A
WAY THAT
TO MAINTAIN A DECENT LEVEL OF
LIVING.
CURRENTLY UNDER EXISTING
MEDICAID LAW THE WELL SPOUSE
WITH KEEP BETWEEN 20 AND 110,000
IN RESOURCES DEPENDING ON THE
STATE.
OR MORE TECHNICALLY IT'S HALF OF
THE COUPLES RESOURCES UP TO 110
OR SOMEWHERE BETWEEN THAT
DEPENDING WHAT STAGE YOU ARE.
ONE CAN A
EXCESS INCOME TO THE WELL SPOUSE
TO BRING THEIR RANGE TO 1800 TO
2700 A MONTH.
THE WELL SPOUSE WILL HAVE 20 TO
100,000 PLUS DOLLARS PLUS IN
INCOME, 18 TO 27 HUNDRED A MONTH
WHICH IS ENOUGH, NOT EXTRAVAGANT
BUT ENOUGH SO THE SPOUSE OUTSIDE
THE NURSING FACILITY IS ABLE TO
MAINTAIN A DECENT LEVEL OF
LIVING.
THESE ARE MANDATORY FOR NURSING
HOME AND COMMUNITY BASED
SERVICES AS I THINK WE ALL KNOW
THAT MEDICAID AND THE COMMUNITY
IN GENERAL IS MOVING FROM
NURSING FACILITY CARE TO
ASSISTIVE LIVING AT
FEDERAL LAW MAKES THE PROTECTION
AT THE STATE'S DISCRETION FOR
THE HOME AND COMMUNITY BASED
SERVICES.
MOST STATES OFFER EQUALITY AND
PROVIDES SPOUSES PROTECTION IN
THE LGBT TO
IT WILL BE MANDATORY FOR THESE
PROTECTIONS TO BE USED IN HCBS
SETTINGS.
THE PROBLEM IN THE LGBT
COMMUNITY IS THAT THESE
PROTECTIONS ARE AVAILABLE FOR
MARRIED SPOUSES, AND THE DEFENSE
DEFINES A MARRIED SPOUSE AS A
MARRIAGE BETWEEN A MAN AND A
WOMAN.
AND, SO, IT IS STATE MEDICAID
PROGRAMS ARE UNABLE TO
AUTOMATICALLY EXTEND THESE
PROTECTIONS TO LGBT
THAT WAS LOOSENED UP A LITTLE
BIT BY CMS IN JUNE OF THIS YEAR
IN THEIR ISSUANCE OF A LETTER TO
STATE MEDICAID DIRECTORS.
THE LETTERS, IT IS A
EASY READ WHETHER YOU ARE A
LAWYER OR MEDICAID SPECIALIST,
THE LETTER IS VERY HONEST ABOUT
ACKNOWLEDGING WHAT CMS IS
OFFERING IS A WAY TO WORK AROUND
THE LEGAL RESTRICTIONS IMP
BY THE DEFENSE OF MARRIAGE ACT.
AND IT ADDRESSES THESE ISSUES IN
THREE WAYS, DEALING WITH LEANS,
DEALING WITH TRANSFERS BETWEEN
SPOUSES AND DEALING WITH ESTATE
CLAIMS
IMPORTANT BECAUSE MEDICAID IS A
LOAN OFFERED TO THE INDIVIDUAL.
MEDICAID RETAINS THE RIGHT TO
COLLECT FROM THE INDIVIDUAL'S
ESTATE.
THERE ARE PROTECTIONS OFFERED TO
SPOUSES WHICH IS WHY
STATES UNDER THIS HAVE SOME
DISCRETION TO PROVIDE SOMEWHAT
COMPARABLE PROTECTION TO LGBT
COUPLES.
THE LIENS CAN BE IMPOSED IF IT
IS ANTICIPATED THE NURSING
FACILITY RESIDENT IS NOT GOING
TO B
IT'S A WAY FOR THE STATE
MEDICAID PROGRAM TO LATCH ONTO
THE PROPERTY AND WHAT CMS POINT
OUT THIS POWER THAT IS GRAND TO
THE STATE IS NOT MANDATORY, THE
STATE HAS THE ABILITY TO IMPOSE
LI
FACILITY, BUT IS NOT OBLIGATED
DO SO.
SO A STATE COULD DECIDE JUST
ACROSS THE BOARD NOT TO IMPOSE
LIENS WHEN THERE IS AN
EVERYTHING SPOUSE REMAINING IN
THE HOME -- LGBT SPOUSE
REMAINING IN THE HOME.
THE TRANSFER OF ASSET PENALTY
GENERALLY IMPOSES A PENALTY
AGAINST THE TRANSFER TO SPOUSE
FOR THE NUMBER OF MONTHS FOR
COULD HAVE PAID FOR NURSING HOME
CARE.
SO IF I'M IN A NURSING FACILITY
AND GIVE AWAY $100,000, CMS
DOESN'T WANT ME TO DO THAT AND
GO AHEAD AND APPLY FOR MEDICAID,
SO LET'S SAY NURSING
CARE COSTS $10,000, THEY WILL
IMPOSE A 10-MONTH PENALTY, THE
IMPORTANT THING TO NOTE IS THERE
AREN'T PENALTIES FOR TRANSFERS
BETWEEN SPOUSES.
WHAT
THE STATES DON'T HAVE TO IMPOSE
PENALTIES IF IT IS CONCLUDED
THERE WOULD BE AN UNDUE HARDSHIP
BASED ON THE IMPOSITION OF THE
PENALTY AND THEY SAY STATES
COULD
IN GENERAL FINE THERE WAS AN
UNDUE HARDSHIP IF THE PENALTY
WERE TO BE IMPOSED ON
TRANSFERRED BETWEEN LGBT
COUPLES.
SO IT GIVES A LITTLE BIT OF A
FREE PASS IN THIS SITUATION FOR
THE TRANSFER TO BE MADE
SPOUSE TO THE OTHER.
AND I'LL JUST NOTE IN AT LEAST
ONE STATE THAT THE STATE HAS
TAKEN UP CMS ON THE INVITATION,
THIS IS A LAW PASSED A COUPLE
MONTHS AGO IN CALIFORNIA TH
EMPTS TRANSFERS AND GOESTHATEX
BEYOND THE LETTER, ALSO EXEMPTS
TRANSFERS OF ASSETS OR INCOME
WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN PROTECTED
UNDER THE SPOUSAL
MENTIONED EARLIER, 18 TO 110,000
DOLLARS AND THE INCOME 17 TO --
18 TO 27.
FINALLY STATE RECOVERY THAT
NOTES AGAIN THAT STATES HAVE THE
ABILITY TO DECLINE TO IMPOSE A A
PENALTY IF THERE WOULD BE UNDUE
HARDSHIP.
LET'S ASSUME THERE IS A LGBT
FACILITY, YOU CAN SEE THE
EXTREME DIFFICULTY CAUSED BY
COLLECTING AGAINST THAT PERSON'S
PROPERTY WHEN THE SPOUSE OR
PARTNER IS STILL LIVING IN THE
HOME AND CMS SUGGESTS STATES
COULD ACROSS THE BOARD FI
UNDUE HARDSHIP IN THAT SITUATION
WHICH I THINK WE CAN ALL
UNDERSTAND WHY THAT WOULD BE AN
UNDO HARDSHIP.
JUST NOTE THERE ARE PLUSES AND
MINUSES, WE ARE NOT WHERE WE
SHOULD BE, THERE ARE
RESTRICTIONS IMPOSED BY T
FEDERAL LAW BUT CUDOES TO CMS
RECOGNIZING THE PROBLEMS AND
TAKING STEPS TO FIX THEM.
[APPLAUSE]
>> HI, GOOD
EVERYBODY.
IS EVERYBODY STILL AWAKE?
I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO MOVE,
WHERE IS THE CLICKER HERE?
SO, I'M GOING TO MOVE AHEAD IN
TALK ABOUT HOPLA AND AIDS
HOUSING FOR HOURS BUT ONE OF THE
THINGS WE KNOW NOW AND THE
NATIONAL AIDS HOUSING COALITION
HAS BEEN REALLY INSTRUMENTAL IN
INSPIRING RESEARCHERS TO LOOK AT
CONNECTIONS BETWEEN HOUSING,
HOUSING AND HEALTHCARE.
NANCY BURNSTIEN IS HIRE, I CAN
GIVE YOU THE WEB ADDRESS LATER.
I WANT TO TOUCH ON THE NATIONAL
AIDS STRATEGY.
RECENTLY RELEASED A YEAR AND A
HALF AGO, IT'S WONDERFUL AND
MANY OF THE THINGS IT COVERS IT
TALKS ABOUT A NATIONAL STRATEGY
TO REDUCE *** INFECTION WHICH WE
KNOW HOUSING IS INSTRUMENTAL.
NOT ONLY PREVENTION FOR *** BUT
PREVENTION FOR OTHER TYPES OF
ILLNESS BECAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE
HOUSING YOU ARE HEALTHIER, IT'S
JUST THE WAY IT WORKS.
IMPROVED ACCESS TO CARE,
IMPROVED HEALTH OUT COMES AND
REDUCED *** DISPARITIES.
THERE ARE THINGS THAT RIGHT HAND
COVERED BY THE NATIONAL ***/AIDS
STRATEGIES, I'LL TEASE CHRIS
ABOUT THIS, PARTICULARLY WOMEN'S
HEALTH IS US.
PROGRAMS THAT WERE GOING TO
SERVE THEM.
I WOULD ADVOCATE THE SAME, I
DON'T WANT YOUNG PEOPLE, QUITE
ANXIOUS, I WANT ELDER LGBT
AND THERE IS ROOM FOR
INNOVATION.
YOU KNOW, NOW THAT I KNOW WHERE
CHRIS IS GOING TO BE IN FLORIDA
I'M GOING TO GO DOWN AND BUY
THAT IS WHAT I WANT TO DO.
I DON'T WANT TO PLAY BINGO, YOU
KNOW.
TAKEN -- "NO" IS NOT AN
ANSWER WE UNDERSTAND.
I DIGRESSED FROM MY AIDS
HOUSING, BUT YOU CAN READ MY
POWERPOINT.
BUT THAT'S REALLY WHAT I WANTED
THANK YOU.
[APPLAUSE]
>> GOOD AFTERNOON, I'M LAURIE
COOK DAINELS FROM FOREGO WHICH
WE THINK IS THE FIRST TRANSAGAIN
DERRED ORGANIZATION TO RECEIVE
SIGNIFICANT FEDERAL FUNDING, WE
ARE FUNDED IN PART
INSTITUTION ON AGING AND
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE AND I NEED
TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT.
I WILL COVER MY PRESENTATION,
MANY OF THE SAME ISSUES MARTA
COVERED WHICH INDICATED WE ARE
ON THE RIGHT
MARRA AND I IN AGREEMENT.
I AM EXCITED TO HAVE NOT MADE UP
TAKE TISSICS ABOUT TRANS
GENDERED PEOPLE,
TIME TO GO THROUGH ALL THE
STATISTICS, YOU HAVE A COPY OF
MY POWERPOINT IN YOUR PACKET.
IF YOU ARE ACCESSING IT FROM THE
WEBINAR VIA THE INTERNET IT THE
POWERPOINT IS ON THE FORGES HOME
INSTEAD I AM GOING TO BE
EMPHASIZING THE IMPLICATIONS OF
THE STATISTICS FOR HOUSING
PROVIDERS.
WE HAVE THREE PRIMARY STATISTIC
SOURCES HERE, TWO ARE NEW THIS
YEAR.
THE FIRST IS INJUSTICE AT RETURN
CENTER ON TRANS GENDERED
EQUALITY.
THE OTHER IS THE NEWLY PUBLISHED
AGING FOLKS WHICH IS THE STUDY
ON LGBT AGE, YOU HAV
ROOM ON YOUR SEESSMENTS THEN WE
HAVE SOME FORGE UNPUBLISHED
DATA.
MR. BATES TALKED ABOUT BEING
ABLE TO IDENTIFY SISTERS AND
BROTHERS BY OTHER MOTHERS.
WHAT WE PUT UP
POINTS WE ADD A LOT OF
TRANSGENDERED PARTNERS SO PEOPLE
CAN'T SAY I DON'T KNOW WHAT
TRANSGENDERED PEOPLE LOOK LIKE.
THE FIRST THING I WANT TO
TRANSGENDER COMMUNITY WE ARE
TALKING ABOUT EVERY ***
ORIENTATION THERE IS.
WE ARE THE LETTER IN THE "LGBT
"THAT INCLUDES EVERYBODY ELSE.
24% OF US OR LESSER
HETEROSEXUALLY IDENTIFIED.
PARTNER STATUS, WE HAVE A LOT OF
PEOPLE IN THE OLDER POPULATION
THAT ARE MARRIED AND I BELIEVE
MOST OF THESE ARE
MARRIED PEOPLE OR PEOPLE IN SAME
SEX MARRIAGES WHERE ONE OF THE
PARTNERS IDENTIFIES AS
HETEROSEXUAL BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT
THEY WERE BEFORE.
THE IMPLICATIONS FOR THIS IS IT
IS CRITICAL NOT TO JUST USE
LANGUAGE THAT ASSUMES
PEOPLE ARE GAY OR IN SAME SEX
COUPLES.
WHEN YOU USE THAT LANGUAGE YOU
EXCLUDE THOSE WHO DON'T IDENTIFY
OR LOOK LIKE WE ARE LGBT.
THE PARTNERS MAY NOT
LGBT SO WHEN USING THAT LANGUAGE
YOU MAY ALSO BE EXCLUDING US.
THERE MAY BE THE NEED TO DEVELOP
SOME WAY OF ADDRESSING
ANTI-HETEROSEXUAL BIAS IN LGBT
SPACES.
INCOME ISSUES, AS
THIS MORNING, TRANS PEOPLE HAVE
BOTH INCOME IN GENERAL, WE HAVE
A HIGH RATE PARTICULARLY
AFRICAN-AMERICAN FEMALES
MALES, NO SOCIAL SECURITY.
TRANSGENDERED PEOPLE IN THE
STUDY WERE FOUND TO BE ABOUT
FOUR TIMES AS OFTEN TO BE --
HAVE HOUSEHOLD INCOMES OF LESS
THAN 10,000 A
WE HAD A 32% OWNERSHIP,
HOMEOWNER SHIP RATE COMPARED TO
A 67% OF THE GENERAL POPULATION.
THIS WAS PRERECESSION, SO WE
WERE ABOUT HALF AS LIKELY TO OWN
A HOME.
IMPLICATIONS,
PEOPLE HAVE LOWER RETIREMENT
INCOMES, MANY MORE WILL BE
UNABLE TO AFFORD MARKET RATE
HOUSING AND WE WILL HAVE LESS
HOME EQUITIES THAT CAN BE LIQUID
ATED TO BE MOVED INTO ANOTHER
LONG TERM CARE HOUSING.
GENERAL DISCRIMINATION I WANT TO
POINT OUT THE TWO BOTTOM ONES ON
THIS SLIDE, MORE THAN 50% OF
TRANSGENDERED PEOPLE HAVE BEEN
HARASSED OR DISRESPECTED IN A
PLACE OF
90% OF HAD SOME FORM OF
DISCRIMINATED ON THE JOB, WE'RE
USED TO BE DISCRIMINATED
AGAINST.
THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE IS OUR
DISCRIMINATION IN TERMS OF
HOUSING, 19% HAVE BEEN HOMELESS,
APARTMENT BECAUSE OF PREJUDICE,
PREJUDICE,11% HAVE BEEN EVICTED
BECAUSE OF PREJUDICE.
IMPLICATIONS ARE BECAUSE WE'VE
HAD SO MUCH TRANSGENDERED
SKEPTICAL OF HELP.
OUR VIOLENCE RATES ARE EXTREMELY
HIGH, WE HAVE SEEN SEVERAL
STUDIES THAT HAVE FOUND ABOUT
50% OF TRANSGENDERED PEOPLE HAVE
SURVIVED ***
JUST *** VIOLENCE, THAT'S NOT
COUNTING ANTI-- IT'S NOT
COUNTING HATE CRIMES, DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE, THE OTHER TYPES OF
VIOLENCE.
41% OF TRANS PEOPLE HAVE ATTEMPT
SUICIDE AT SOME POINT IN THEIR
LIFETIME.
THE NEW AGING STUDY JUST OUT
FOUND OUT THAT 48% OF THE
TRANSGENDERED RESPONDANTS WERE
MORE DEPRESSED.
CRITICAL TO ESTABLISH
RELATIONSHIPS WITH MENTAL HEALTH
PROVIDERS WHO ARE TRANS SAVVY.
HEALTHCARE DISCRIMINATION IS
HIGH, WE HAVE HIGH DENIAL OF
HEALTHCARE, HIGH RATE OF
DISCRIMINATED AGAINST IN
HEALTHCARE.
WE HAVE EVEN TO DATE LEGALIZED
DISCRIMINATION UNDER HEALTH
INSURANCE POLICIES.
IMPLICATIONS, WE MAY HAVE MORE
UNTREATED CHRONIC CONDITIONS, WE
MAY HAVE HIGHER DISABILITY
RATES.
INTERSECTIONAL, WHEN YOU CROSS
TRANSGENDERED
IMPLICATION, BE AWARE OF CROSS
CUTTING ISSUES AND MAKE SURE YOU
KNOW THAT YOUR POTENTIAL CLIENTS
ARE AWARE YOU UNDERSTAND THAT WE
COME IN MORE THAN ONE FLAVOR.
I WANTED TO MENTION A COUPLE
OTHER USEFUL THINGS TO
ABOUT TRANS ELDERS, ONE IS WE
HAVE EXTREMELY HIGH MILITARY
SERVICE RECORDS.
THIS WAS THE CARING AND AGING
WITH PRIDE STUDY THAT YOU HAVE.
WE HAVE A 41% RATE OF MILITARY
VETERANS COMPARED TO 26%
LGBT AND THAT PARTICULAR FIGURE
IS HIGHER THAN THE GENERAL
PUBLIC.
IMPLICATIONS, WE MAY WANT TO
DEVELOP AND/OR ADVERTISE AT
VETERANS ADMINISTRATION
FACILITIES.
ONE THING I WANT TO BE REALLY
EXPLICIT ABOUT IS ONE OF THE
DIFFERENCES BETWEEN
TRANSGENDERED ELDERS AND LGBT
ELDERS, WE HAVE A LOT MORE WAYS
WE CAN BE INVOLUNTARILY OUTED.
WHEN IT COMES
SURGERY, IN THE STUDY NONE OF
THE OLDER HAVE HAD SURGERY WHICH
MEANS THE VAST MAJORITY OF US
ARE LIBEL TO BE OUTED WITH OUR
CLOTHES OFF.
THE OTHER TYPE
OUTING IS IF WE HAVE
IDENTIFICATION THAT DOES NOT
CORRESPOND WITH OUR CURRENT NAME
AND GENDER IDENTITY AND THAT IS
A HUGE PROPORTION OF OUR
POPULATION.
THE THIRD IS GOSSIP ON THE PART
OF STAFF AND OTHER
SO, THE IMPLICATIONS, PRIVACY
AND CONFIDENTIALITY POLICY, BOTH
WHAT IS WRITTEN AND WHAT IS
PRACTICED ARE CRITICAL.
STAFF NEEDS TO HAVE CLEAR
POLICIES AND TRAINING HOW TO
HANDLE DISCREPANCIES AND
DOCUMENTS AND
THERE IS ALSO INNER GROUP
PREJUDICE AND THE IMPLICATIONS
ARE WE HAVE TO SET UP BIAS FREE
ZONE AND TRAIN STAFF AND OTHER
RESIDENTS ON THE FACT WE HAVE
BIAS-FREE ZO
FINALLY WHAT DO TRANS PEOPLE
LOOK FOR WHEN DECIDING WHETHER
OR NOT TO USE AN AGENCY.
NUMBER 1 ISSUE, REPUTATION,
NUMBER 2 IS YOUR INTAKE FORMS,
DO YOU RECOGNIZE MORE MALE THAN
FEMALE AND OUT REACH TO THE
TRANS COMMUNITY, THERE ARE A
COUPLE MORE ON THE SLIDES.
THE INDICATION FOR YOU IS GET
YOUR FORMS RIGHT AND THEN GO OUT
AND DO OUT REACH.
FINALLY MY LAST WORD IS HOUSING
WAS NUMBER 1 NEED IN THE
AGING -- THE N
HAS JUST BEEN DONE -- STUDY THAT
HAS JUST BEEN DONE.
THAT IS MY CONTACT INFORMATION
AND I LOOK FORWARD TO QUESTIONS.
[APPLAUSE]
>> THANK YOU.
THAT WAS INFORMATIVE AND THANK
YOU TO ALL THE PANELISTS.
CHRIS, THANK YOU FOR THE
INTRODUCTION.
I'M PLEASED TO BE HERE, I'M
HILLARY MYER, NATIONAL
OF LGBT AND
TALK ABOUT THE CULTURAL
COMPETENCY TRAINING WE ARE
OFFERING.
OKAY.
SOME KEY BACKGROUND ABOUT THE
NATIONAL RESOURCE CENTER, WE ARE
FUNDED IN 2010 TO START WORK AND
WE ARE ON A THREE-YEAR GRANT.
WE ARE A PROJECT OF SAGE BUT WE
HAVE 10 NATIONAL PARTNERS DOING
THE WORK WITH US, T
ARE PHI, THE LGBT AGING PRO GET,
OPENING HOUSE, FORGE, AMERICAN
SOCIETY ON AGING, NATIONAL
COUNCIL ON AGING,
NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF AREA
AGENCIES ON AGING, CENTERLINK
AND HUNDREDER COLLEGE.
OUR CORE MISSION IS WE ARE
EDUCATING THE AGING SERVICES
ORGANIZATIONS ABOUT THE
LGBT ELDERS, WE ARE EDUCATING
THE LGBT COMMUNITY AND LEADERS
THEMSELVES IN VARIOUS ISSUES
THEY DEAL WITHIN THEIR DAILY
LIVES.
THE WAYS WE ARE TRYING TO DO IT
WEBSITE, THE ADDRESS IS ON THE
POWER.AS WELL AS ON THE SLIDES
AS WELL AS ON THE HANDOUTS IN
FRONT OF YOU.
LGBT AGING CENTER.ORG.
WE HAVE A TRAINING INSTITUTE WE
WILL TALK ABOUT IN A
WE PROVIDE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE,
YOU CAN CALL US OR E-MAIL US
WITH QUESTIONS.
THIS IS A SCREEN SHOT FROM OUR
REGS INSTANTLY FORMED SITE.
WE BRING TOGETHER
RESOURCES AND CREATE ORIGINAL
CONTENT.
SOME OF THE ORIGINAL CONTENT ONOUSING RE
PEOPLE NOT SURPRISINGLY SIT
NOTHING THIS ROOM.
THEY HAVE LES AND
ARE UP ON OUR WEBSITE.
HOUSING OPTIONS, DIFFERENT
MODE HOE A
NUMBER OF GOOD RESOURCES ON THIS
THROUGH IT.
LET'S TALK ABOUT THE TRAINING.
I WAS ENCOURAGED TO HEAR A
NUMBER OF PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT
THE VARIOUS TRAINING THEY ARE
DOING, BECAUSE THIS IS THE PLACE
WHERE I THINK WE NEED TO
CONCENTRATE THE MOST RIGHT NO
SYSTEMS ARE IN PLACE FOR OLDER
ADULTS AND NOW WE NEED TO GET
THEM UP TO SPEED ON LGBT ISSUES,
THAT IS REALLY OUR GOAL IN THE
CULTURAL COMPETENCY WE ARE
PROVIDING.
OUR TRAINING OBJECTIVE FOR THE
TO HELP PEOPLE UN TAKING ONCE THEY GO
BACK TO THEIR
WE HAVE FOUR TRAININGS THAT WE
OFFER, TWO TO THE AGING NETWORK,
THERE IS A LEVEL 1 AND LEVEL 2.
AND, LIKE I SAID, THE AGING
NETWORK TRAININGS ARE TO GET THE
AGING SERVICE PROVIDERS ON BOARD
WITH THE LGBT ISSUES.
ORGANIZATIONS AND I THINK THIS
IS REALLY QUITE REMARKABLE
ACTUALLY BECAUSE TO MY KNOWLEDGE
THERE ARE VERY FEW RESOURCES
AVAILABLE TO LGBT ORGANIZATIONS
TO TALK ABOUT AGEISM AND HOW TO
MA
COMMUNITY ACCESSIBLE TO OLDER
ADULTS.
IT IS A HUGIST KNEW OUR
COMMUNITY AS MANY OF YOU KNOW,
HUGE ISSUE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
IT'S QUITE CO
MIGHT IMAGINE.
SOME OF BENEFITS OF OUR
TRAINING, IT WAS COLLABORATIVELY
WRITTEN SO A NUMBER OF THE
GROUPS WHO ARE HERE, SOME NOT
HERE PARTICIPATED IN BRINGING
THEIR CURRICULA TOGETHER AND
CREATE THIS NATIONAL RESOURCE
TRAINING AND THOSE GROUPS ARE
SAGE, THE LGBT AGING PROJECT,
OPEN HOUSE, THE TRANSGENDER
NETWORK AND CENTERLINK.
I WAS WRITTEN BY EXPERTS, AN
ORGANIZATION CALLED PSI
WAS WRITTEN BY PEOPLE WHO DO
THIS AS THEIR BREAD AND BUTTER.
AND WE HAVE AN EVALUATION EXPERT
IN HUNTER COLLEGE, THEY ARE ABLE
TO LOOK AT THE -- WE HAVE A
PRETEST AND POST TEST AND LOOK
AT SOME OF THE RESULTS AND
EVALUATE WHETHER OR NOT WET ARE
GETTING THROUGH TO
PROVIDERS.
AND LAST BUT CERTAINLY NOT LEAST
IT'S OFFERED FREE OF CHARGE.
THE
TALK TO THEIR STAFF AND
NTERESTED IN
REQUESTING A
CENTER.ORG, YOU CAN TALK TO ME
AFTERWARD ABOUT THE TRAINING OR
ABOUT THE RESOURCE CENTER IT'S
..
WE DID A YEAR IN REVURKS I WILL
YOU WANT TO READ MORE ABOUT THE
CENTER, IT INCLUDES OUR CURRENT
NATIONAL CENTER TRAINERS.
THAT'S IT.
>> PLEASE JOIN ME GIVING THE
ENTIRE GR
APPLAUSE.
[APPLAUSE]
I THINK WE HAVE TIME FOR JUST A
FEW QUESTIONS AND YOU CAN EITHER
DIRECT YOUR QUESTION TO A
SPECIFIC PERSON ON THE PANEL OR
YOU CAN OPEN IT UP FOR
THE PANEL TO RESPOND.
YES?
>> GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERY ONE,
I'M FROM NEW ORLEANS AND ALSO
I'M A MEMBER OF NATIONAL HOUSE
EQUALIZATION.
SOMETHING WE HAVEN'T HEARD TODAY
IS WHAT ARE WE DOING FOR THE
UNDOCUMENTED ELDERLY LATINO
POPULATION?
IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS HERE,
THEY ARE NOT GOING ANYWHERE, AND
>> I APOLOGIZE, WE HAD TALKED
ABOUT IT AT LUNCH.
NONE OF US HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE
UNDOCUMENTED LGBT ELDERLY WHICH
IS KIND OF THE PINK ELEPHA
SO I DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE'LL BE
ABLE TO REALLY COME UP WITH
ANYTHING TODAY, BUT I THINK IT
IS -- THIS IS A GROUP OF PEOPLE
WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY THERE
ARE, BUT CERTAINLY IN ALL OF OUR
COMMUNITIES WE ARE
SEEING PEOPLE IN THE ***/AIDS
COMMUNITY AND NUMBERS WHO ARE
UNDOCUMENTED WHO HAVE AIDS AND
ARE NOW OVER 50 AND GETTING
OLDER, SO IT WILL, I'M SURE,
BECOME AN ISSUE IN THE
ARE THERE OTHER QUESTIONS?
ALL RIGHT.
CAN.
CAN I ASK THIS OF YOU, ERIC?
DO NURSING FACILITIES HAVE A
LEGAL OBLIGATION TO BE MORE
LGBT-FRIENDLY?
>> THEY DO.
THE NURSING
NURSING HOME REFORM LAW IS GOOD
ON THESE ISSUES, FACILITIES HAVE
A LEGAL OBLIGATION TO
ACCOMMODATE THE INDIVIDUAL NEEDS
OF RESIDENTS AND THIS IS
SUEDIA
A CARE PLANNINGROCESS AND CARE
PLANNING PROCESS INCLUDES THE
RESIDENT'S AND FAMILY MEMBERS
AND CARE PROVIDERS, SO IF A
PERSON, LGBT PSON IS IN A
FACILITY THER IS AN ENTRY IN
THE CARE PLANNING PROCESS SAY
THIS IS WT I WANT, THIS IS
WHAT IS BOTHERING M,THIS IS
HOW I WANT THINGS TO HAPPEN
WHILE I'M HERE IN THE NURSING
FACILITY, LET'S FIGURE OUT HOW
TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.
>> GREAT, QUESTIONS FROM THE
AUDIENCE?
>> I HAVE A QUESTION.
I AM INTERESTED IN KNOWING WHAT
WORK IF ANY IS BEING DONE A
ROUND REGULATIONS FOR ADU
HOMES.
IN OUR STATE THIS IS A REAL
ISSUE AND AS I UNDERSTAND IT
THEY HAVE A LOT MORE LATITUDE
AROUND WHAT TYPE REGULATIONS
THEY ARE WORKING WITH AS FAR AS
BEING DISCRIMINATORY, THEY ARE
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TO ANYTHING THEY ARE AWARE OF
BEING DONE ALONG THOSE LINES.
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PUT THE CHARGE TO US WE HAVE TO
BE OUR OWN ADVOCATES, WE
TALK ABOUT HOW DO WE WANT TO
LIVE AS SENIORS AND ARE WE GOING
TO SPEND OUR RETIRING YEARS AND
WE HAVE TO BE TALKING TO THOSE
WHO PROVIDE HOUSING, BOTH AT A
FEDERAL LEVEL AND STATE LEVEL
AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
INCLUDED COMPLETELY AS PEOPLE,
WE ARE NOT MARGINALIZED, NOT
FORCE HAD TO GO IN THE CLOSET
AND NOT FORCED TO GIVE UP WHAT
WE HAVE FOUGHT SO HARD FOR OVER
THE LAST 50 YEARS.
IT WOULD BE A SHAME TO HAVE IT
HAND TONE ANY INDIVIDUAL IN
COMMUNITY AND YOURS WILL BE THE
LAST QUESTION, SIR.
>> IT'S REALLY A COMMENT.
>> PLEASE.
>> I UNDERSTAND REGINA'S POINT
AND IT'S WELL TAKEN.
I'M A REAL ESTATE DEVELOPER, THE
HOUSING FOR PEOPLE IN THE LGBT
COMMUNITY WHO CANNOT AFFORD TO
GET THEIR OWN HOUSE NOTHING
BOCA, THAT'S WHY I CAME HERE AND
I THINK OTHERS ARE HERE FOR THAT
REASON.
PEOPLE WHO ARE MAKING
YEAR, I DON'T NO HOW THEY LIVE
MUCH LESS HAVE HOUSING, BUT THAT
IS THE NEED THAT WE HAVE TO
ADDRESS HERE.
AND I REALLY GIVE CREDIT TO THE
PEOPLE WHO PUT THIS TOGETHER FOR
BEING A WONDERFUL BEGINNING.
THE GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO HAVE
TO STEP UP AND COME UP WITH THE
BUCKS BECAUSE YOU CAN'T PROVIDE
HOUSING FOR PEOPLE IN THOSE VERY
LOW INCOME LEVELS WITHOUT
GOVERNMENT PARTICIPATION,
WITHOUT GOVERNMENT STIMULATION,
WITHOUT GOVERNMENT POLICY MAKING
THAT FOCUSES ON MAKING IT
HAPPEN.
THERE ARE A LOT OF US OUT THERE
WHO HAVE THE
CERTAINLY THE PROGRAMATIC
EXPERTISE PROVIDING THE HOUSING
EXISTS IN THIS ROOM BUT WITHOUT
GOVERNMENT TAKING A PROACTIVE,
VERY STRONG POSITION HERE AND
WHICH ARE CERTAINLY VERY
IMPORTANT, BUT IT'S GOING TO
HAVE TO BE MONEY PUT INTO IT AND
FOCUSED ON THE LGBT COMMUNITY,
NOT OUT THERE AND MAYBE THE LGBT
PIE IF THEY SCRAMBLE HARD
ENOUGH, THAT IS NOT GOING TO
WORK BECAUSE THE LGBT COMMUNITY
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WILL
DISAPPEAR BY THE TIME GOVERNMENT
GETS THERE IF IT
NORMAL PACE, I USED TO BE IN
GOVERNMENT SO I'M NOT
CRITICIZING ANYBODY ELSE.
THAT'S THE POINT I WANTED TO
MAKE, WE NEED GOVERNMENT TO GET
VERY PROACTIVE ON THIS ISSUE.
>> YOURS IS THE LAST, LAST
FIRST OF ALL, I'VE DONE LOW CHIN
HOUSING MY ENTIRE LIFE, I WANTED
TO PUT IT OUT THERE.
THERE'S PLENTY OUT THERE, WE ARE
TALKING ABOUT THE ELDERLY POOR,
HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE
IN THIS COUNTRY, P
MILLIONS AND MILLIONS, NOT JUST
LGBT POOR.
THERE IS MONEY OUT THERE AND I
KEEP CHALLENGING WH R T NTETTH
INNOVATIVE IN THE
COMMUNITY AND WE HAVE TO LEARN
TO BE INNOVATIVE HERE TOO.
>> A LAST ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR
THE GROUP.
>>> I WA
FROM OUR LAST PANEL AND NOW
TO TALK TO THEM.
T TO SPEND A LITTLE
TIME TO FIND OUT IF YOU HAVE
ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR THAT YOU
AND WE INVITE YOU TO -- I CAUGHT
YOU OFF GUARD, YOU ARE ALL
LOOKING AT ME, OH, GOD, WE HAVE
TO THINK BEFORE THEY TALK, WHAT
IS THE TOPIC AGAIN?
FUNDING BARRIERS A
OPTIONS.
>> I LIKE YOU TO SPEAK
>> GOOD.
ANYBODY ELSE GOT SOME BURNING
ISSUE THAT THEY HOPE IS TOUCHED
THIS AFTERNOON.
PLEASE.
>> I KNOW WE
BASED ON *** ORIENTATION, HOW
DO YOU GET MONEY AND PUT
TOGETHER SOMETHING FOR LGBT
FOLKS?
>> OKA
WITH NO IN ADEWEY
TRY THAT AGAIN.
I THINK WE HAVE SEEN THE SLIDE
OVER IT IN DETAIL.
I WANT TO POINT OUT BECAUSE IT
WILL GET TO A POINT I WANT TO
MAKE LATE NEAR MY PRESENTATION
ABOUT THE ANNUAL SOCIAL SECURITY
CHIN FOR OLDER GAY COUPLES.
THAT TRANSLATES TO A THOUSAND OR
1100 A MONTH WHICH WHEN I GET TO
THE FUNDING CHALLENGES AT THE
END I WANT YOU TO REMEMBER THOSE
NUMBERS, WHAT IS CONSIDERED
AFFORDABLE UNIT IN SAN FRANCISCO
IS NOT
I THINK OUR HOUSE FOG JEST AND
PART OF THE FINANCING CHALLENGES
WE FACE RELATES TO WHAT WE DO AS
AN ORGANIZATION.
WE ARE A HOUSING SPONSORING
AGENCY BUT ALSO
AND COMMUNITY PROGRAMS TO 25,000
SENIORS WHO -- LGBT SENIORS WHO
LIVE IN SAN FRANCISCO AND WE DO
TRAINING AND TECHNICAL
ASSISTANCE.
IN TERMS OF HOUSING WE ARE
CURRENTLY BUILDING 109 UNITS OF
LOW INCOME SUB SIDDIZED HOUSING
AT 55 UNION TREAT WHICH IS THE
FORMER UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA
CAMPUS IN SAN FRANCISCO,
WONDERFUL LOCATION AND I WILL
TALK MORE IN DETAIL IN A SECOND.
WE ARE WORKING AND ASSISTING
LGBT SENIORS IN NEED OF HOUSING
TODAY.
AS I'M SURE IT IS TRUE IN MOST
CITIES IN THE COUNTRY,
AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN SAN
FRANCISCO ACE WARDED BY A
LOTTERY PROCESS.
THE
ORGANIZED IN TERMS OF THEIR
PAPERWORK THIS ORDER WHEN THEY
GO TO APPLY FOR THE HOUSING
LOTTERIES.
PART OF OUR MISSION IS TO GET
LGBT SENIORS BETTER REPRESENTED
IN THE EXISTING SENIOR HOUSE
NOTHING SAN FRANCISCO WHICH IS A
DIFFICULT AND TIME CONSUMING
PROCESS.
WE'VE FOUND REJECTION BEING SUCH
A PSYCHOLOGICAL PROCESS IS
DIFFICULT.
THEY DON'T GET SELECTED, NOT
THEN THEY DON'T APPLY AGAIN.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE
WELL REPRESENTED IN THE PROCESS.
A BIG PARTY WANT TO MAKE SURE
WHAT YOU WALK AWAY WITH, OUR
MODEL IS BASED ON THE
COMBINATION OF HOUSING WITH
ON-SITE AND ACCESSIBLE
SOMEBODY ASKED EARLIER ABOUT
ASSISTIVE LIVING AND OTHER
HOUSING, OUR GOAL AT OPEN HOUSE
IS TO BUILD 109 UNITS OF HOUSING
WHICH WILL BE FOR INDEPEND
DEPARTMENT LIVING AND WE WANT
PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO MOVE IN AND
STAY THERE FOR THE REST OF THEIR
LIVES.
POSSIBLE, THEY WILL NEED TO MOVE
INTO AN ASSISTIVE LIVING
FACILITY.
WE WANT ENOUGH ON-SITE SERVICED
OR CONTRACTS WITH OTHER AGENCIES
TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE WHO MOVE
INTO 55 UNION STREET CAN
HOPEFULLY NOT HAVE TO MOVE
AGAIN.
WE PROVIDE A VERY EXTENSIVE
SERVICES AND COMMUNITY BIDDING
PROGRAM.
RIGHT NOW WE RUN A SENIOR CENTER
BUT WITHOUT WALLS, WE WORK WITH
OUR LOCAL LGBT COMMUNITY TO PUT
ON THESE PROGRAMS, WORK WITH
SENIOR SERVICES, OUR GOAL IS TO
BRING SERVICES WHICH IS
EXTENSIVE, BRING IT TO THE 55
UNION
BUILT.
WE ENVISION OR HOUSING AND
SOCIAL ACTIVITIES WILL HAVE A
HUB THAT WE WILL CREATE THAT
WILL INCLUDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING
AND ALL THE OTHER WORK WE DO
BOTH FOR THE RESIDENTS TO TAKE
ADVANTAGE OF BUT ALSO FOR THE
LARGER LGBT COMMUNITY.
OUR VISION TOYS HAVE SUPPORT AND
SOCIAL SERVICES ON-SITE FOR
RESIDENCES BUT MAKE OUR BUILDING
AND MAKE OUR HOUSING VERY
INTERACTIVE.
WE WANT THE COMMUNITY TO FEEL
WELCOME THERE.
AND WE DO PROVIDE TRAINING AND
PUT IN A PLUG FOR THE TOUCH AND
GO SERVICE CENTER, IT'S AMAZING,
ONE OF OUR STAFF IS DOING A
TRAINING FOR THE NATIONAL TOUCH
AND GO CENTER, I WOULD HIGHLY
RECOMMEND LOOKING AT THE WEBSITE
AND THEIR TRAINING PROGRAM.
I WANT TO TALK MORE SPECIFICALLY
ABOUT OUR HOUSING AT 55 UNION
STREET.
BASIC ARTIST RENDERING WHAT WE
HOPE OUR BUILDING WILL LOOK
LIKE, WE'RE NOT QUITE THERE, WE
ARE GETTING STARTED ON THE
SPECIFIC DESIGN AND ENGINEERING
WORK, BUT AS I SAID OUR GOAL IS
TO CREATE A COMMUNITY.
REALLY BRIEFLY, I THOUGHT IT WAS
IMPORTANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT
ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE
PROJECT, EMPHASIZE HOW LONG IT
TAKES TO DEVELOP ANY KIND OF
PROJECT IF YOU ARE THINKING
ABOUT EMBARKING ON SUCH A TASK
IN YOUR CITY.
WE GOT FOUNDED IN 1998 AS AN
ORGANIZATION, WE GOT STARTED IN
EARNEST EARLIER IN 2002, WE DID
A VERY LARGE COMMUNITY-BASED
STUDY.
IT TOOK US SIX YEARS TO FIND A
SITE THAT WOULD WORK, WE HAD A
LOT OF FITS AND STARTS, PROJECTS
AND SITES WE THOUGHT WOULD WORK,
FELL THROUGH, YOU HAVE TO BE
PATIENT AND VERY PERSISTENT
ABOUT SUCH A STRATEGY.
WE DID A MARKET ANALYSIS OF THE
HOUSING NEEDS FOR THE LGBT
COMMUNITY, WE SPENT A LOT OF
YEARS, MY POINT BEING MAKING OUR
CASE WE NEEDED LGBT WELCOME
HOUSING IN SAN FRANCISCO AND DID
THE RESEARCH TO BACK THAT UP.
FAST FORWARD TO THE LAST FEW
YEARS.
IN 2008 THE CITY
FRANCISCO AGREED TO FINANCE OPEN
HOUSES BUILDING, WE HAD ACTUALLY
STARTED OFF I SHOULD HAVE SAID
WITH A MARKET PROJECT, WE WERE
GOING TO BUILD AN ASSISTIVE
LIVING FACILITY, WE ENDED UP, I
WON'T GO INTO ALL THE DETAILS,
BUILDING LOW INCOME HOUSING AND
SUB SIDDIZED HOUSING, SUB SID SUB SID
SIDDIZED BY THE CITY.
THEY AGREED TO SUBSIDE EYES THE
HOUSING DEVELOPMENT.
I WANT TO MENTION THIS YEAR IN
TERMS OF COLLABORATION AND
CHANGES, OUR DEVELOPMENT IS ONE
PIECE OF A VERY LARGE
DEVELOPMENT.
THE LARGER PART OF THE
DEVELOPMENT IS ACTUALLY A
PRIVATE MARKET RATE RENTAL
PROJECT NOT JUST FOR SENIORS BUT
ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO LIVE
THERE, THERE WILL BE 330 UNITS
OF THOSE MULTIFAMILY MARKET RATE
THAT WILL BE DEVELOPED AS PART
OF THE PROJECT.
OUR PIECE WILL BE 109 UNITS OF
SENIOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, SO
YOU ARE COMBINING TWO PROJECT
INTO ONE THAT THE CITY OF SAN
FRANCISCO HAS TITLED ONE BIG
PROJECT, SO THERE ARE MANY
DIFFERENT PLAYERS INVOLVED WHICH
CREATES A LOT OF COMPLICATIONS
AND
WORKING WITH A PRIVATE DEVELOPER
AND THEN SENIOR AFFORDABLE ON
OUR PIECE BUT WE HAVE TO GO
THROUGH THE CITY APPROVAL
PROCESS TOGETHER BECAUSE IT'S
TITLED AS ONE PROJECT WHICH
MAKES THINGS VERY COMPLICATED.
DEVELOPMENT BASICALLY STOPPED IN
SAN FRANCISCO AS THE ECONOMY
COLLAPSED.
THE CITY SAID WE DON'T HAVE ANY
MONEY TO DEVELOP YOUR
HOUSING PLAN, THE DEVELOPER
FILED BANKRUPTCY.
SO WHEN THE MARKET RATE PROJECT
TANKED, SO DID OUR PROJECT, WE
WERE TITLED TOGETHER AND
APPROVED T
A FEW YEARS TO GET THE PROJECT
BACK ON TRACK BUT SPEAKING OF
COLLABORATION, WE DECIDED IN
2011 WHEN THE CITY CAME BACK AND
SAID LET'S TRY TO REVIVE THIS
PROJECT, THERE'S A NEW MARKET
RATE DEVELOPER CAME ON BOARD TO
THE WHOLE THING GOT STARTED
AGAIN.
WE MADE THE DECISION TO PARTNER
WITH A LARGE DEVELOPER OF
INCOME, ESPECIALLY SENIOR
HOUSING.
WE TOOK A LOT OF TIME TO SEE WHO
WE WANTED TO COLLABORATE WITHIN
TERMS OF BUILDING AFFORDABLE
HOUSING, THERE WERE A FEW
OPTIONS AS I'M SURE AS IN YOUR
COMMUNITIES.
WE SAT
PRINCIPALS IN EACH ORGANIZATION
TO MAKE SURE OUR DESIRE TO BUILD
LGBT WELCOMING HOUSING, OUR
DESIRE TO MAKE SURE SERVICES
WERE ON-SITE, WE HAD A LIST OF
QUESTIONS WE WANTED TO ASK THEM
BEFORE BEGINNING TO COLLABORATE.
WE DECIDED
TOOK US THREE OR FOUR MONTHS TO
HAMMER OUT A PARTNERSHIP
AGREEMENT, TO MAKE SURE WE
UNDERSTOOD WHAT IT WAS WE WANTED
TO ACHIEVE WITH THIS PROJECT,
THEY BRING COME ENORMOUS
EXPERTISE DEVELOPING AFFORDABLE
HOUSING WHICH
OWNANT OF MOVING -- COMPONENT OF
MOVING THE PROJECT ALONG NOW
THAT IT HAS BEEN REVISED.
THE MODEL AT 55 UNION STREET,
109 UNIT, MIX OF SOME STUDIOS,
MOSTLY ONE BEDROO
AFFORDABLE UP TO 50% OF THE AREA
MEDIAN INCOME IN SAN FRANCISCO
SO EVERYBODY WHO LIVES THERE
CAN'T MAKE MORE THAN ABOUT
$45,000 A YEAR AS A SINGLE
PERSON.
WE ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE
BUILDING TWO BUILDINGS, ONE WILL
BE FUNDED BY 4% AND 9% TAX
CREDITS AND LOCAL HOUSING
DOLLARS.
AND THE OTHER WE HOPE WILL BE A
HUD 202 FINANCED BUILDING.
AND I THINK AS I'M GOING TO GET
TO IN JUST A SECOND IN TERMS OF
CHALLENGES.
HUD 202 IS A
COMPETITIVE PROCESS OBVIOUSLY,
ONLY ONE OR TWO AWARDS IN SAN
FRANCISCO ARE MADE EVERY YEAR,
WE'RE HOPING TO GET ONE IN THE
NEXT FEW YEARS.
THAT, OF COURSE, IS HEAVILY SUB
SUBSIDIZED.
ONE ONLY PAYS 30% OF YOUR CHIN
IN TERMS OF RENT.
FOR THE ONE SUBSIDIZED WITH CITY
DOLLARS
MAKE SURE WE MAKE THE
DISTINCTION.
MERCY AND OPEN HOUSE WILL CO-OWN
AND CO-OP RATE THIS BIDDING,
DON'T NEED TO GO INTO ALL THE
DETAILS.
AGAIN IF YOU ARE THINKING ABOUT
COLLABORATING WITH ANOTHER
AGENCY OR DEVELOPER, REALLY
IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE YOU
HAMMER OUT AGREEMENT WHO WILL BE
DOING WHAT, WHO WILL MANAGE THE
GUILDING, WHO WILL RECRUIT TO
FILL THE BUILDING, WHO WILL
PROVIDE SERVICED, IMPORTANT
RELATIONSHIP TO STRUCTURE.
WE WILL HAVE THE OPEN HOUSE
OFFICES, OUR INTENTION TO MOVE
OUR WHOLE SERVICE PROGRAM TO
THIS NEW BUILDING AND CREATE A
NEW SPACE IN ADDITION TO THE
LGBT CENTER WE CURRENTLY USE, WE
WANTED TO BUILD AN EFFICIENT
SENIOR FOCUSED SPACE, INCLUDE A
DINING ROOM, KITCHEN, ACTIVITIES
ROOM, ET CETERA, THAT IS REALLY
FOCUSED ON SENIORS.
I HAVE TALKED A LITTLE ABOUT
LACK OF LOCAL FUNDING, ECONOMY
COMPLETELY TANKED, NOBODY WAS
BIDDING ANYTHING, THE MAYOR'S
OFFICE ON AGING, THEY GET THEIR
MONEY FROM THE FEES THAT THE
HAVE TO PAY A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE
OF -- INTO THIS AFFORDABLE
HOUSING FUND.
IF THERE IS NO PRIVATE MONEY
COMING IN, THE LAST THREE YEARS
THAT FUND HAS NOT GROWN BY A
DIME BECAUSE NOTHING HAS BEEN --
NOTHING HAS BEEN DEVELOPED IN
SAN FRANCISCO.
PEOPLE ARE COMING BACK INTO THE
MARKET, ECONOMY IS GETTING
BETTER IN TERMS OF PRIVATE
INVESTMENT, THE DOLLARS ARE
COMING IN, WE HAD TO MAKE AND I
KNOW MARK WILL TALK ABOUT IT
ABOUT THE POLITICS HOW YOU MAKE
VERY HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
CITY OF SAN FRANCISCO HAVING
COMMITTED TO US BACK IN 2008
THEY WOULD FUND THE PROJECT,
STILL TO PRIORITIZE, NOTHING HAS
GONE FORWARD BECAUSE OF THE
ECONOMY, WE HAD TO FIGHT VERY
HARD.
IT WHEN THE CHOICES CAME WHICH
SUCCESSFUL GETTING OURS TO THE
TOP OF THE LIST.
WE WILL DEAL WITH A HISTORICAL
PLACE, THE SITE IS ON THE
HISTORIC REGISTER, WE HAVE TO GO
THROUGH A VE
THAT HUD WILL ULTIMATELY
APPROVE.
NATIONAL ENVIRONMENT POLICY ACT,
WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH AN
ASSESSMENTS OF ALL THE HISTORIC
A YEAR, WE WILL NEED TO COMBINE
THE STRADDAL TAX CREDIT HUD 202
FUNDING ALONG WITH OTHER FUNDING
FOR THE OPEN HOUSE, WE CAN'T USE
HUD 202 TO BUILD A COMMUNITY
TOGETHER IT'S GOING TO BE VERY
CHALLENGING AND OBVIOUSLY THE
MONEY -- CBG GOT CUT -- OKAY,
I'M GETTING TO THE END.
THIS IS REALLY THE LAST THING,
THE LAST THING I WANT TO SAY
WHICH IS REALLY IMPORTANT IN
TERMS OF THE VERY -- THE
RELATIVELY HIGH RENTS WE WOULD
NEED TO CHARGE FOR OUR TAX
CREDIT FINANCED BUILDING.
IF WE DON'T GET HUD 202 FUNNING
AND HAVE TO BUILD ALL OUR
BUILDINGS WITH TAX
RIGHT NOW SAN FRANCISCO ALLOW
YOU, THIS IS BASED ON SOMEBODY
WHO MAKES $45,000 A YEAR, THE
MAXIMUM RENT THAT SAN FRANCISCO
WILL ALLOW YOU TO CHARGE IS 30%
OF SOMEBODY'S INCOME BUT THE
VAST MAJORITY THAT OPEN HOUSE
SERVES MAKES FAR BELOW THIS
AMOUNT OF MONEY, SO FOR US TO
SERVE THE PEOPLE WE NEED TO
SERVE WE MUST AND WE WILL
HEAVILY RELY ON THAT HUD 202
SUBSIDY IN ORDER TO MAKE IT
WORK, OTHERWISE WE WILL FILL THE
UNIT BUT NOT WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE
MOST IN NEED AND I THINK THAT IS
OUR BIGGEST FUNDING CHALLENGE AS
WE FIGURE OUT BASED ON INCOME OF
RENT AND SUBSIDIES WE WILL GET
HOW WE WILL FINANCE AND MAKE THE
BUILDING OPERATE.
OKAY, I WILL STOP THERE.
SORRY.
[APPLAUSE]
>> I'M MARK FROM THE DHM FUND IN
PHILADELPHIA, AND WE ARE HERE TO
MAKE YOU
$19 MILLION.
THERE WILL BE 56 ONE BEDROOM
UNITS IN A B
STRUCTURE, 10% OF THE UNITS WILL
BE FULLY ACCESSIBLE, ADDITIONAL
UNITS WILL ACCOMMODATE THE NEED
FOR THE HEARING OR VISUALLY
IMPAIR.
EARLY SEED MONEY, AGAIN BEING
POLITICALLY CONNECTED IN YOUR
COMMUNITY, OUR GOVERNOR TWO
YEARS AGO GAVE US A GRANT,
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT GRANT, WE
LOVE THOSE WORDS FOR $500,000.
THAT $500,000 WAS MEANT TO SEED
THIS PROJECT, WORK WITH YOUTH,
SENIORS AND *** IN THE LGBT
COMMUNITY.
MEAN THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GO OUT
TO ALL THE ORGANIZATIONS OF OUR
COMMUNITY AND CRY ATE -- CREATE
PARTNERSHIPS SAYING WE WANT YOU
INVOLVED IN OUR COMMUNITY.
IF WE CAN GET THEM INVOLVED BY
GIVING THEM FUNDS, YOU HAVE
SUPPORT FROM YOUR ENTIRE
COMMUNITY.
THERE IS NOT AN ORGANIZATION IN
PHILADELPHIA WHO IS NOT
SUPPORTIVE OF OUR STRUCTURE AND
BUILDING AT THIS POINT.
[COOPTIONING WILL CONTINUE
SHORTLY]
>>> WE NOW HAVE $8 MILLION.
OUR LAST STEP IS TO GET
11 MILLION IN PRIVATE EQUITY AND
RAISE THE SALE OF LOW INCOME TAX
CREDITS.
SO WE GOT THE 500.
THAT 500,000, ASIDE FROM SEATING
OUR COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION ALSO
PAID FOR OUR ATTORNEYS, OUR
CONSULTANTS TO GET US EVERYTHING
WE HAVE NEEDED.
THOSE CONSULTANTS PUT TOGETHER
ALL THE STUDIES WE NEEDED,
ENVIRONMENTAL, WHERE TO BE
LOCATED, SO ON AND SO FORTH, AND
I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL
OF THAT FOR YOU.
ESPECIALLY BECAUSE HE'S GOING TO
TAP THE TABLE VERY SHORTLY.
WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH THAT.
EVERY PROJECT LIKE THIS NEED TO
HAVE A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT
PARTNER.
EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
THEY BRING SEVERAL THINGS TO
YOU.
NO. 1 THE MOST IMPORTANT THING
THEY BRING TO YOU IS EXPERTISE.
WE CHOSE PEN ROSE DEVELOPMENT
BECAUSE IT'S THE LARGEST
DEVELOPER OF AFFORDABLE SENIOR
HOUSING IN PENNSYLVANIA.
THEY MANAGE OVER 11,000 UNITS.
THAT'S VERY LARGE.
THEY HAVE BEEN DOING IT FOR 40
YEARS, AND THE REPUTATION IS
STELLAR.
THEY BRING UPON THEM THE
EXPERTISE TO FILL OUT ALL THE
DOCUMENTATION TO DO ALL THE
FUNDING FOR ALL THE BUREAUCRATS
IN STATE GOVERNMENT.
OUR FUNDING, WE ARE BEFORE THE
PENNSYLVANIA HOUSING COMMITTEE
FOR THE FINAL PIECE OF OUR
FUNDING.
THAT'S $11 MILLION.
THAT'S THE FINAL PIECE, AND WE
ARE IN.
THAT IS LIKE THEER.
THEY WILL ALSO MANAGE OUR
BUILDINGS SINCE THEY MANAGE
11 MILLION OTHERS.
WE HAVE GONE THROUGH THAT, AND
IF YOU
IT.
THANK YOU.
[APPLAUSE]
>>> GOSH.
THANK YOU.
SETH AND MARK, AND
0
WHAT DO I DO
IF I SQUINT A LOT, IT'S BECAUSE
I'M STILL ON THAT
CURVE.
OKAY?
FORWARD?
THANK YOU.
I JUST WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT
ABOUT OUR HISTORY, AND IT'S
IMPORTANT.
HERE WE ARE IN WASHINGTON, D.C.
AND BEGS TO TALK A LITTLE BIT
ABOUT HISTORY.
THE YEAR 2000 GAY AND LESBIAN
ELDER HOUSING WAS
FOR THE SERVICES, AND GRAY DAVIS
KIND OF PUT OUT THE WORD FOR THE
THE GENERAL MAINSTREAM AGING
COMMUNITY TO LOOK AT SENIORS,
AND HOW THEY ARE CARED FOR IN
TERMS OF LONG-TERM CARE.
IF THERE ARE OPTIONS OUTSIDE OF
NURSING FACILITIES, HOW CAN WE
SUPPORT AND HOW CAN WE IDENTIFY.
THROUGH A GROUP THAT WAS GIVEN
TO THE CENTER, THE ALLIANCE GOT
TOGETHER AND BEGAN TO FIGURE OUT
WHAT THE LGBT ELDERS NEEDED.
IN 2001 WHEN THE GRANT WAS
EXPIRING, AND THERE WASN'T THE
CAPACITY AND RESOURCES TO
CONTINUE THAT WORK, GAY AND
BESSLY AN
LACK OF SUPPORT FOR LGBT ELDER
ADULTS.
THERE WAS MORE MARKET RESEARCH
DONE, KIND OF TRYING TO FIGURE
OUT WHAT ARE THE NEEDS,
CONTINUING ON WITH WHAT WAS
STARTED IN
IN 2005, WE SECURED A FOR PROFIT
HOUSING DEVELOPER, AND THERE WAS
LAND ACQUISITION, AND WE APPLIED
FOR AND SECURED FUNDING FOR
POLITICAL SUPPORT LIKE BOTH MARK
AND SET
THESE ARE ALL THE PLAYERS THAT
WERE INVOLVED, NOT TO MENTION
THE $1.5 MILLION PRIVATE
FUNDING.
THIS IS ALL BLOOD, SWEAT AND
TEARS, AND THIS IS WHAT WENT
INTO CREATING THE BRICK AND
MORTAR BUILDING THAT SITS AT THE
IT'S NOT ONLY ABOUT WHAT YOU
KNOW, BUT WHO YOU KNOW, AND I
HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT I WOULD BE
EXTREMELY REMISS IF I DIDN'T
THANK ASSISTANT SECRETARY
MERCEDES MARQUEZ FOR HER WORK.
TRIANGLE
RESULT OF HER PASSION AND HER
CONCERN AND HER INVESTMENT AND
INVOLVEMENT.
SO FOREVER IT WILL GO DOWN
PROBABLY AS -- -- WE SHOULD CALL
TESTIFIES ABSOLUTELY
INSTRUMENTAL.
WE DID COMMUNITY OUTREACH, AND
YOU TALKED ABOUT HOW DO YOU
BUILD FOR LGBT ELDERS?
HOW DO YOU DO
AND YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S HOW
YOU DO YOUR OUTREACH.
IT'S HOW YOU DO YOUR OUTREACH.
LORI BROUGHT UP
ANTIHETEROSEXUAL BIAS.
IT GOES ON, AND OUR BUILDING IS
90% LGBT.
THEY ARE AFRAID IT'S GOING TO BE
TAKEN OVER.
AND SOMETHING WE NEED TO TALK
ABOUT, BUT MAYBE ANOTHER TIME.
IN 2 ON 06 WE PUT OUT
REAPPLICATIONS AND 2007 FULL
APPLICATIONS.
2007 JUNE, THE FIRST RESIDENTS
MOVED IN, AND THE FIRST WAS
TRANSGENDER FEMALE.
2007 THE FINAL UNIT WAS LEASED
AND 2008 TO 2010 WE HAVE BEEN
DEVELOPING TH
HERE IS TR
IT'S A SWANKY PLACE
OUR DEVELOPING MCCORMICK AND
SALAZAR.
IT ALWAYS TAKES A VILLAGE.
THE BUILDING HAS 135 UNIT.
35 UNITS
HOMELESS AND OR AT RISK OF BEING
HOMELESS.
99% OCCUPANCY SINCE 2007.
LIKE I SAID WE HAVE 90% LGBT
OCCUPANCY.
AVERAGE AGE IS 75.
MOST OF OUR RESIDENTS ARE AT OR
LIVING BELOW POVERT
REALLY VERY STAGGERING.
85% OF THE RESIDENTS ARE LIVING
WITH AT LEAST ONE CHRONIC HEALTH
CONDITION, AND WE HAVE LOST
ABOUT 10% OF OUR RESIDENTS TO
DEATH, AND 32% OF THE RESIDENTS
HAVE HUD VOUCHERS, AND WE HAVE
TALKED ABOUT SUSTAINABI
TO THE RESIDENTS, AND THEY
DECIDE TO MOVE OUT OF OUR
BUILDING, AND THERE GOES THAT
LOVELY HUD VOUCHER.
SO IT BECOMES, I THINK, CRITICAL
WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT
SUSTAINABILITY AND WHAT THAT
MIGHT MEAN FOR
BUILDING.
THE TWO AREAS OF SERVICE
DELIVERY I LIKE TO LOOK AT IT AS
HOUSING AND SERVICES, AND THEY
GO HAND IN HAND, AND I WANT TO
TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT PROGRAM
MODEL, NOT TO BELABOR
COMPREHENSIVE HOUSING CARE BUT
WE TA
RESIDENTS IN A SAFE ENVIRONMENT.
OUR MODEL IS CLIENTS FOCUS, AND
WE DO ECONOMIC CASE MANAGEMENT
AND AGING IN PLACE AND HEALTH
AND WELLNESS, BUT IT'S REALLY
KEY, AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
SUSTAINABILITY,
RESIDENTS STAYING AT HOME, IN
THEIR HOME, INDEPENDENT HOME, AS
LONG AS POSSIBLE, AND IT'S ABOUT
THE BUILDING, AND KEEPING THE
BUILDING GOING AS LONG AS
POSSIBLE.
IT BECOMES KIND OF A -- WE
BECOME INTERDEPENDENT ON ONE
ANOTHER.
I'M GOING
EXAMPLE OF AND.
SHE WAS A 75-YEAR-OLD WOMAN.
LOST HER PARTNER OF 45 YEARS,
AND SPENT MOST OF HER NEST EGG
ON THE CARE OF HER PARTNER.
WAS AT RISK FOR HOMELESSNESS,
AND
SHE HAD LIMITED SUPPORT NETWORK,
AND MULTIPLE HEALTH PROBLEMS,
NOT TO MENTION THE DEPRESSION,
AND ANXIETY AND CAREGIVER
FATIGUE SHE EXPERIENCED AFTER
THE DEATH OF HER PARTNER.
THIS IS KIND OF IT TAKES A
BECAUSE THIS PERSON CALLED SAGE
WHO MADE THE CONNECTION WITH US,
AND ANN AND HER PARTNER HAD BEEN
ON OUR WAITING LIST, AND WE WERE
ABLE TO PROVIDE HOUSING FOR ANN.
WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON
GETTING -- SHE RECEIVED A
SECTION 8 VOUCHER, AND I DO
ECONOMIC CASE MANAGEMENT WITH
STAY WITHOUT TOO MUCH STRESS,
LIVING INDEPENDENTLY.
SOME OF THE SERVICES SHE GETS
WITH US, AND WITH THE GAY AND
LESBIAN CENTER, AND LIKE LEEZA'S
PLACE, SOCIAL ACTIVITY, AND
COMMUNITY ACTIVIST AND SO I
INVITE ANY OF YOU WHO NEED
STORIES TO CONTACT ME, BECAUSE
ANN WILL DO IT.
WHAT WERE SOME OF THE OBSTACLES?
MARK WOULD SAY -- AND I'M SORRY.
HE'S NOT DEAD OR ANYTHING
JUST DOWN THE STREET FROM US.
BUT MARK WOULD SAY MAINTAINING A
DEVELOPER MINDSET.
THIS IS ABOUT BUSINESS, AND THIS
IS ABOUT BUILDING AFFORDABLE
HOUSING, AND YOU KIND OF ALMOST
HAVE TO PUT SOCIAL SERVICES ON
THE SIDE AND FOCUS ON BEING A
DEVELOP ARE.
SOCIOECONOMIC SITUATIONS, AND
YOU ARE GOING TO BE HOUSING
PEOPLE WHO ARE IN POVERTY, AND
THAT MEANS A LOT NOT ONLY FOR
YOUR BUILDING AND HOW YOU ARE
GOING TO SUSTAIN IT, BUT ALSO
HOW YOU ARE GOING TO SUSTAIN THE
AND WILL BE HOUSED IN YOUR
PROJECT.
IS THERE A CONSUMER DEMAND?
HOW DO YOU STRIKE BALANCE
BETWEEN YOUR DESIRED MISSION AND
ADHERING TO HOUSING LAWS?
I HAVE TO SAY THAT WE ARE A
MISSION DRIVEN ORGANIZATION
THE SOCIAL SERVICE.
IT'S ALL ABOUT THE RESIDENT AND
KEEPING THEM THERE, AND KEEPING
THEM THERE MEANS KEEPING THE
BUILDING AFLOAT.
I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT
ABOUT THE CHALLENGES.
HOW MUCH TIME DO I HAVE?
TWO
THE THREE ORGANIZATIONS HOUSING
DEVELOPER, MANAGING GENERAL
PARTNER AND THE SOCIAL SERVICE
PROVIDER.
HERE IS WHERE WE TALK ABOUT
SUSTAINABILITY, AND I THINK THIS
IS WHERE IT ALL KIND OF COMES
WHEN -- I'M THE DIRECTOR OF
SOCIAL SERVICES NOW, INTERIM
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.
WHEN MARK WAS THERE WE SAW IT AS
A TRIAD BETWEEN THE MANAGER,
SOCIAL SERVICES AND THE OWNER OF
THE BUILDING.
OFTENTIMES AS THOSE OF
SOCIAL SERVICES KNOW, MANY WILL
COME WITH ONE SPECIFIC THING,
IT'S REALLY JUST THE TIP OF THE
ICEBERG.
SO TOO GOES IN-HOUSING.
WHEN YOU ARE SITTING IN THE
MANAGER'S OFFICE AND SOMEBODY IS
NOT MAKING THEIR RENT OR PASSING
THEIR INSPECTIONS OR SOMEBODY IS
GETTING LOCKED OUT FOR THE TENTH
TIME, THERE'S SOMETHING GOING
ON.
SO WHAT WE HAVE, WE HAVE THE
BEAUTIFUL KIND OF WAY THAT WE
WORK.
THE MANAGEMENT LETS US KNOW.
ALTHOUGH WE ARE SOCIAL SERVICES
THERE AND WE PROVIDE SERVICES
IT'S NOT MANDATORY YOU TAKE
ADVANTAGE OF OUR SERVICES.
YOU CAN LIVE INDEPENDENTLY,
NEVER SEE ME, NEVER SEE AN
INTERN AND LIVE HAPPILY EVER
AFTER.
I HAVE THE FREQUENT FLYERS THAT
COME ALL THE TIME.
MANAGEMENT OFTEN IS THE FIRST
ONE WHO MIGHT SEE SOME OF THESE
THERE'S SOMETHING HAPPENING AND
GIVES US A REFERRAL SO THAT WE
CAN GO AND TRY AND FIGURE OUT
WHAT'S HAPPENING SO WE CAN KEEP
THESE FOLKS THERE AT HOME AS
LONG AS POSSIBLE.
WHEN SOMEONE IS LATE ON THEIR
RENT, T
THAT EVICTION NOTICE OR THAT
THREE DAY PAY OR QUIT OR THAT
WARNING RIGHT AWAY.
THEY MAY GET A CALL FROM SHEILA
OR VISIT FROM SHEILA TO FIND OUT
WHAT'S GOING ON, AND HOW CAN WE
HELP.
THE OPPORTUNITY SO THE IDEA WHEN
AS THEY ARE AGING IN PLACE AND
THEY DON'T HAVE THAT SAFETY NET,
THEY HAVE US RIGHT THERE.
SO IF SOMETHING IS HAPPENING WE
CAN GO IN RIGHT AWAY AND FIND
OUT WHAT IS HAPPENING.
IF SOMEONE IS COLLECTING TOO
MANY ITEMS,
IS GETTING OVER EXTENDED WITH
THE THINGS THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE,
THEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE
COLLABORATION.
WE COLLABORATE WITH EVERYONE.
IN TERMS OF FUNDING WE HAD TO.
WE COLLABORATE THE GAY AND
LESBIAN CENTER, AND A
PROTECTIVE SERVICES AND SECTION
8.
ALL OF THE IDEAS THAT OUR
RESIDENTS STAY WITH US AS LONG
AS POSSIBLE.
I WANT TO SAY IT'S TWOFOLD.
I DON'T WANT TO SEEM HEARTLESS
WHEN I SAY IT'S IMPORTANT THAT
WE MAINTAIN OCCUPANCY
CONTINUE SUSTAINABILITY FOR THE
BUILDING.
BUT MOST CRITICAL, IT'S FOR THE
RESIDENTS.
WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE LGBT
ELDERS AND OUR FOLKS IN POVERTY,
WHAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT
HOME TODAY IS THAT WHEN YOU
CREATIVE AS POSSIBLE BECOMES
CRITICAL BEYOND IMAGINATION, AND
I KNOW YOU ALL KNOW WHAT I'M
TALKING ABOUT.
THAT'S WHAT I SAY IN CLOSING.
THIS IS A DREAM, AND IT CAN
BECOME A REALITY.
WITH THE SAME KIND OF TENACITY
THAT OUR ELDERS TOOK TO THE
STREETS, AND THIS IS THEIR
LEGACY, THAT THEY LEAVE US TO DO
THE SAME FOR THEM, AN
IT WILL BE US DOING IT FOR
OURSELVES.
SO THANKS.
[APPLAUSE]
>> WE HAVE 10 MINUTES FOR
QUESTIONS.
STEP TO THE MICROPHONE.
>> WE HAVE ONE QUESTION THAT
CAME IN VIA E-MAIL.
>> WHOA!
>> SOMEBODY IS WATCHING OUT
THERE.
>> I THINK ALL THE PANEL CAN
COMMENT ON THIS.
BUT THE QUESTION IS IN EACH OF
THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT YOU
DESCRIBED, HOW WILL YOU OR DO
YOU ENSURE THAT O
POPULATION IS SERVED?
WILL THERE BE A PREFERENCE FOR
THEM TO FLOAT ATOP OF THE
WAITING LIST, AND IF SO, IF THE
PROJECT IS SUBSIDIZED FOR HUD
FOR MONEY WILL THEY ALLOW FOR
THE PROJECT?
>> OUR PROJECTS WILL BE OPEN TO
EVERYONE.
WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO
DISCRIMINATE BASED ON ***
ORIENTATION.OR
IT IS A MATTER FOR US, AS
OF ALLUDED TO, IT'S VERY
IMPORTANT WE ARE ORGANIZED
AROUND AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN
GENERAL.
WHEN IT COMES TO THE OPEN HOUSE
BUILDING, I WANT TO MAKE SURE
THEY ARE VERY ORGANIZED SO WHEN
THE APPLICATIONS ARE DONE, THEY||
WILL BE RIGHT THERE AT THE LGBT
TO BE FILLING THEM OUT SO WE CAN
MAKE SURE THE LGBT POPULATION IS
WELL REPRESENTED.
WE WON'T DISCRIMINATE AND CAN'T
DISCRIMINATE AND SHOULDN'T
DISCRIMINATE.
IT'S A MATTER OF MAKING SURE OUR
FOLKS ARE WELL ORGANIZED.
>> ROLE MODEL FROM THE JEWISH
FEDERATION OF PHILADELPHIA.
THERE ARE JEWISH HOMES, AND
CATHOLIC HOMES AND PRESBYTERIAN
HOMES.
IT'S LGBT FRIENDLY, WHEN PEOPLE
COME AND VISIT THE HOME, YOU GET
TO SHOW THEM VARIOUS THINGS.
WHAT OUR FRIENDS AT THE JEWISH
FEDERATION DID WAS THEY MADE
SURE THE OPENING VISITING DAY
WERE FRIDAYS AND SATURDAYS AND
TOOK THEM AND SHOWED THEM HOW
THE MEMBERS OF THE HOME WENT TO
TEMPLE ON FRIDAY AND WENT TO
TEMPLE ON SATURDAY, AND THEN
THEY HAD A JEWISH COOKING CLASS
AND BASICALLY YOU SHOW THEM THAT
THE HOME IS PRIMARILY FOR LGBT
ACTIVITIES, AND USUALLY THE ONLY
PEOPLE THAT WERE GOING TO LIVE
IN YOUR HOUSE ARE THOSE LGBT AND
THOSE WHO ARE LGBT ALLIES.
WE WON OUR ALLIES.
WHY SHOULDN'T THEY BE WITH US.
BUT WE GOT PART OF THAT EXAMPLE
FROM TRIANGLE SQUARE.
THEY ARE THE ONLY ONES OPENING,
AND BY THE WAY, I FORGOT TO
MENTION THIS DURING OUR
PRESENTATION.
WE ARE NOW BEFORE THSA FOR OUR
TAX CREDITS, WHICH IS THE LAST
PORTION OF OUR FUNDING, AND THE
ANSWER ON THAT WILL BE THIS
APRIL.
IF WE GET OUR TAX CREDITS IN
THIS APRIL, WE WILL DO GROUND
BREAKING IN 10 MONTHS, ONE MONTH
FROM NEXT MONTH.
>> I GUESS MAYBE DITTO IS
APPROPRIATE.
BUT YEAH, I MEAN WE COMPLY
COMPLETELY WITH FAIR HOUSING
LAWS, AND WE CAN'T DISCRIMINATE
AT ALL.
LIKE I SAID, IT'S ABOUT OUTREACH
AND HOW VISIBLE YOU ARE, AND
MAKING SURE YOU ARE VISIBLE IN
THE COMMUNITY AND LET THEM KNOW
WHAT'S OUT THERE SO YOU CAN,
WHEN YOU ARE TAKING APPLICATIONS
APPLICATIONS, IT'S OUR COMMUNITY
THAT'S COMING IN RESPONDING.
THIS IS HOW YOU DO YOUR OUTREACH
AND WHERE YOU DO YOUR OUTREACH
REALLY.
BECAUSE WE CAN'T DISCRIMINATE.
>> DO WE HAVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH
ADVANCED CARE FACILITIES SO
SOMEBODY NO LONGER LIVES
PENDENTLY THEY DON'T HAVE TO
GO INTO A NURSING HOME AND BACK
INTO THE CLOSET.
>> WE HAVE SOME OF THE SKILLED
NURSING FACILITIES THAT ARE KIND
OF SEEKING US OUT, AND VERY
INTERESTED IN PROVIDING AN
ENVIRONMENT FOR OUR RESIDENTS.
WHEN I SAY IT'S A MISSION DRIVEN
THAT WHEN YOU ARE ONCE PART OF
TRIANGLE SQUARE COMMUNITY YOU
ARE KIND OF ALWAYS A PART OF AND
THERE ARE MANY MEMBERS -- THAT'S
AN OVER STATEMENT.
THERE ARE FOLKS THAT HAVE GONE
TO SKILLED NURSING AND I MAKE
SURE I VISIT THEM, AND IF
THERE'S ANY ISSUES THAT I CAN BE
THE ADVOCATE, SO THAT I CAN BE
THERE AND AT THE TREATMENT CARE
MEETINGS, AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT
THE KINDS OF ISSUES THAT THEY
HAVE, AND YES, I GUESS THAT WAS
A LONG ANSWER TO SAY YES, WE DO
HAVE RELATIONSHIPS.
I KNOW IN GENERAL WE ALL KNOW
OUR COMMUNITIES, AND WE ALL KNOW
WHAT SKILLED NURSING FACILITIES
ARE, THAT WE WOULD BE OKAY WITH
OURSELVES AND PLACES THAT
WOULDN'T.
JUST IN GENERAL, THAT'S WHAT I'M
LOOKING AT FIRST BOTTOM LINE.
HOW WILL THEY BE CARED FOR AS A
PATIENT, AND THEN ALSO HOW ARE
THEY GOING TO BE CARED FOR AS A
MEMBER OF THE LGBT COMMUNITY.
>> FROM AN OPEN HOUSE
PERSPECTIVE, IT TAKES SO LONG TO
DEVELOP ANYTHING IN SAN
FRANCISCO, WE HAVE TAKEN
ADVANTAGE BY DEVELOPING REALLY
GOOD RELATIONSHIPS WITH A LOT OF
DIFFERENT PROVIDERS, SO WHEN WE
DO BUILD OUR BUILDING, WE WILL
BE PREPARED FOR THAT IN ADDITION
TO A MULTITUDE OF OTHERS THAT
WILL HAPPEN.
WE MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE
RELATIONSHIPS AND WE HAVE
ALREADY PREIDENTIFIED THE LGBT
FRIENDLY SERVICES.
WE DO THAT ALL THE TIME, AND
SERVE 3 TO 400 SENIORS A YEAR.
THEY CALL US TO ASK WHAT IS LGBT
FRIENDLY, AND SOMETIMES ASSISTED
LIVING.
SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, TO PIGGY
PIGGYBACK ON WHAT SHEILA IS
SAYING, WHETHER YOU DO IT BEFORE
OR DURING OR AFTER, IT'S
IMPORTANT TO HAVE ALL OF THOSE
RELATIONSHIPS IN PLACE.
YOU ARE NEVER GOING TO BE ABLE
TO DO IT ALL.
WHENEVER YOU ARE PART OF THE
COMMUNITY, YOU ARE ALWAYS PART
OF A OPEN HOUSE.
WE WANT TO FOLLOW YOU WHEREVER
THAT MAY TAKE YOU, INCLUDING
HOPEFULLY TO, YOU KNOW, THE OPEN
HOUSE BUILDING OR IF THAT
DOESN'T HAPPEN TO LIVING
INDEPENDENTLY, TO LIVING IN AN
ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY.
BUT WORKING IN THOSE
RELATIONSHIPS TAKES A LONG TIME
AND YOU SHOULD START YESTERDAY
TO MAKE SURE THAT'S ALL IN
PLACE.
>> WE BELIEVE WHAT WE ARE DOING
IS PIONEERING AND BREAKING
BARRIERS, AND WE SAW WE HAD AN
OPPORTUNITY TO ENCOMPASS ALL THE
SENIOR ORGANIZATIONS THAT
CURRENTLY OPERATE IN THE FIVE
COUNTY PHILADELPHIA AREA.
NOT JUST LGBT ORGANIZATIONS BUT
ALL ORGANIZATIONS.
IN FACT WE HAVE ONE THAT
PARTNERS WITH US NOW.
LARRY FROM THE SENIOR LAW
PRACTICE IN PHILADELPHIA.
ALSO TO INCORPORATE THROUGH THE
DAY, THERE ARE MEMBERS OF STAFF
FROM OUR CONGRESSIONAL
DELEGATION THAT HAVE BEEN HERE,
AND CHRISTINA IS HERE NOW FROM
SENATOR CASEY'S OFFICE.
KEEP YOUR POLITICAL FRIENDS
CLOSE TO YOU.
THEY HAVE BEEN HERE ALL DAY
TODAY.
I BELIEVE OUR MAYOR IS WATCHING
THIS WEBCAST RIGHT NOW.
WE HAVE BEEN BUILDING THAT
SUPPORT SYSTEM.
THE MAYOR, ONCE I TURNED 60
YEARS OLD, WAS KIND ENOUGH TO
APPOINT ME TO THE PHILADELPHIA
COMMISSION ON AGING, AND RIGHT
NOW I'M OFFICIALLY OLD.
WHAT THAT COMMISSION DOES IS IT
WORKED WITH EVERY SINGLE
ORGANIZATION IN PHILADELPHIA
DELIVERING AND GIVING SENIOR
CARE, AND THEREFORE WE ARE NOW
IMPLEMENTING INTO EACH AND EVERY
ORGANIZATION AN LGBT STRUCTURE,
AND OUTSIDE OF THAT THEY GOT ALL
OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS TOGETHER,
AND THEY ARE AS A GROUP
SUPPORTING THIS PROJECT BECAUSE
VERY SIMPLY THERE IS NO LGBT
SENIOR HOUSING IN PHILADELPHIA
OR PENNSYLVANIA.
THIS WILL BE A FIRST.
>> I THINK WE HAVE TIME FOR ONE
LAST QUESTION.
>> HI.
THIS IS KATHLEEN SULLIVAN FROM
LOS ANGELES, AND THIS MIGHT BE A
QUESTION FOR SHEILA BEC
HAS THE EXPERIENCE ON SITE.
BUT WE IN OUR PROGRAM HAVE A LOT
OF AGE VARIATION.
SO THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT
EXPERIENCES THAT OUR SENIORS
HAVE, AND I'M WONDERING FROM A
HOUSING PERSPECTIVE A
SORT OF, YOU KNOW, AS SOMEONE
AGES MAYBE REDUCE FUNCTION
NATIONALITY, ARE THERE DIFFERENT
CHALLENGES THAT YOU SEE AND YOU
FACE AT TRIANGLE SQUARE BASED ON
THE DIFFERENT AGES OF THE
RESIDENTS?
>> THE FIRST THING THAT POPPED
INTO MY MIND WOULD I LIKE TO SAY
AND WHAT I HOPE THE SERVICE THAT
WE DELIVER IS THAT WHEN YOU ARE
HOMEBOUND AT TRIANGLE SQUARE
IT'S MUCH DIFFERENT THAN IF YOU
WERE HOMEBOUND IN THE COMMUNITY.
YOU ARE HOMEBOUND IN YOUR
APARTMENT BUT MOST OF US KNOW
ABOUT IT AND OTHER RESIDENTS ARE
THERE, AND SO I GUESS THE
DIVERSITY OF NEED IS CERTAINLY
THERE, AND IT'S SOMEONE WHO IS
AGING IN PLACE AND BECOMING --
HAVING MORE AND MORE ACUTE
EPISODES FROM THE CHRONIC
DISEASES THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE.
THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY, THOSE
WHO AREN'T SO CHALLENGED BY
THEIR HEALTH SITUATION ARE
COMING TO THEIR AID, SO I GUESS
IF YOU WANT TO SAY FOR SOME OF
THEM WE ARE COORDINATING THEIR
CARE AND TRYING TO DO KIND OF
LIKE THE SHARE THE CARE MODEL
AND CREATING A COMMUNITY AROUND
THEM TO GET THEM TO DOCTORS AND
GET THEM TO SURGERY, AND SOME
WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW TO GET A
NEW CAR, BECAUSE THAT'S THEIR
MAIN WAY OF TRANSPORTATION OR
HELPING THEM DEAL WITH GOING
FROM BEING INDEPENDENT IN THEIR
CAR TO TAKING THE METRO AND
GETTING ON THE BUS.
WHAT THAT MEANS IN TERMS OF LOST
AND CHALLENGE, AND THERE'S
ABSOLUTELY -- IT MAY NOT
NECESSARILY BE ON AGE, BUT
ACTUALLY IT MAY BE RELATED TO A
CERTAIN PERSON'S HEALTH STATUS
RATHER THAN AGE.
>> WE HAVE SOMEBODY WHO IS IN
HIS 80s WHO'LL TAKE ANYBODY
ANYWHERE IN TERMS OF THE
DOCTOR'S VISIT AND THEN SOME.
WE HAVE FOLKS IN THEIR LATE
60s, MID-60s WHO ARE MUCH
FRAILER THAN HE IS.
SO IT'S ABOUT IDENTIFYING, I
GUESS, NEED IN THE COMMUNITY
VERSUS AGE, AND THEN ALSO BEING
ABLE TO CRAFT COMMUNITY AND
CAPITALIZE ON THE CARE THAT THE
COMMUNITY HAS FOR ONE ANOTHER.
I WILL TELL YOU MY RESIDENTS
WOULD NOT SAY.
THEY WILL SAY WE DON'T HAVE
COMMUNITY.
THEY WOULD SAY THERE'S NO
COMMUNITY.
THEY ARE TRIANGLE SQUARE.
DO YOU SEE THAT MULTIPURPOSE
ROOM?
THERE'S ONLY FIVE PEOPLE COMING
FOR SOME OF THOSE CLASSES.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT?
I WILL TELL YOU, THE WAY THE
COMMUNITY IS IS WHEN SOMEONE
NEEDS TO GET UP AT 4:00 IN THE
MORNING AND TAKE THEM TO THE
DOCTORS, THERE'S USUALLY
SOMEBODY THERE.
EITHER SOMEBODY THERE BECAUSE
ONE OF THE RESIDENTS HAVE
OFFERED OR SOMEBODY IS THERE
BECAUSE WE HAVE TALKED AND WE
HAVE WORKED WITH THEM.
TO ME, THAT'S -- AND I THINK
THEY SEE IT.
BUT IN LITTLE DRIPS AND DRABS.
IT'S KIND OF HARD.
THANKS, SORRY.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
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