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Ruben Papian "Death" part two
Hello, hello everyone! Thank you for finding the time.
By the wish of all of us
we are continuing today on the same subject, death. Come on my friends let us continue.
I don't quite remember where we stopped back then? - Might I remind you? - Go on.
- You were saying how the soup was "cooked" and the moment of death came.
You said that in the utmost scientific language, the soup got cooked and the moment of death came.
Well then, that's it. The end! Finite la commedia! - Isn't that the beginning?
- It's just the beginning, yes. So, we should continue from the moment of death?
- Yes, from there. Actually, we don't know. - What we need is to warm up a bit, you and I.
I would like to ask if there is anyone new in there? Ah yes, there is. There is one.
- We are relatively new. - Yes, relatively new, just a tad bit exploited.
I understand, you can tell much from the traversed kilometers, the year of production etc.
From those who are relatively new, did anyone hear what I already said about death?
- I did. - You got to the soup? - Yes, I got to the soup twice.
- I can't say that was the most interesting part, or that it begins now. What follows is the least expected.
Pay attention, from those who were dying,
truly and utterly,
when the lid is not closed and the soup boiled over, it seems nobody got back.
Interesting, why?
So it is possible to be born,
but impossible to be reborn in the true sense of the word. They say how there are rebirths and reincarnations.
That the soul (we will call it like that for now), that was in someone who lived and died,
or was in what remained behind after death, goes through phases and returns to the body.
This is what they say. It seems like the soul is laboring to get back.
Do you know what kind of protocol the soul goes through after death?
- It's exactly what we wanted to hear from you. - I will tell you what Theology says about it
or rather Theosophy, not Theology. First is hell, then purgatory and finally heaven.
- Let's not talk about that. - I would suggest, not to leave it, but to observe it from another perspective.
Let's see what is hell considered to be. What do you normal people,
and I who adjust to you normal people, consider hell to be and how do you experience it.
- Torture, punishment, suffering.
- So,
it's a complex of emotions that,
according to our human understanding, are unpleasant. Pay attention - unpleasant.
Let's look at those unpleasant emotions.
If we observe from some neutral position, what do we consider under the term suffering?
Is it an emotional or mental state? What kind of a position, state is it, emotional or mental?
- Emotional. - Very well.
For starters we will deconstruct everything only to construct from the new position what remained from deconstructing.
Imagine that someone who is next to you, in your house,
thirty time a day repeats
repeats how you are a fool. Constantly, no matter what is in question.
You pour the tea and that person says: you are a fool.
You turned the TV on: you are a fool. You turn the TV off, again: you are a fool.
And it goes like that for thirty times a day and for half a year. Could it be called suffering?
- Of course. - Not pleasant.
- It is not pleasant for the first few days, but after a year could you still call this suffering?
- And if it is so? - Then it's a habit. - Yes it's a habit of the person that says that.
Could it be said then that suffering is an emotional state?
- If it lasts for half a year, then it becomes a norm for both the insulting and insulted person.
- We are not dealing with the person that insults here, just the insulted one. Would you like to say that after half a year
if that person doesn't hear the word fool for one day, after the regular thirty a day,
he begins to suffer because he misses the norm? Is that what you are saying?
- If it was repeated that often then the person would stop reacting to it. - Ok, then we will change it up a bit.
The thing is in the term "you are a fool". Nothing else.
We will change it into "you are a genius".
Same thing, thirty times a day, half a year. Could this be called suffering?
- No. - I think it depends on the intonation.
- No, it's not about intonation. The person is entirely honest and looks at him as a genius, for six months, thirty times a day.
Why is it when the term was "you are a fool" you consider it as suffering
pay attention it's just the words, and while "you are a genius" not? What do you consider under the word suffering then?
- Maybe its monotony? - Both are said in the same way, monotonous.
- I am not referring to the monotonous tone. I mean repeating one and the same in any range,
which will result in suffering. If it changes, one day you are a fool, one day you are a genius, it's simply more interesting.
- Hold on, it is not quite like that. Let's go in some order. When I said that for six months it is told "you are a genius"
you didn't consider that to be suffering. - Of course it is. It tires just after one day. One and the same.
- It turns out there is no difference, positive or negative emotion is suffering.
- What I wanted was for you to pay attention to the word suffering. What do we consider suffering to be?
- Still, as it turns out, "you are a fool" is worse, because you are fighting it within you - no I am not stupid.
But when they tell you that you are a genius, you don't fight that, you assume it to be correct.
If something is unpleasant then they will negate it, and if it's repeated for thirty times a day, then it will torture them.
It seems to me that it's more of a mental state. - Interesting.
What is suffering? I am interested in the word itself. I am wondering how did it become in the human consciousness, etched,
or planted, that human thinks. Because people themselves are not any special thinking creatures.
They were seriously lied to. There are forms of thinking, that were already established, templates, that they are just using.
Why suffering? I am interested in what you assume suffering to be? Is it something you can't endure?
You can throw yourself through the window or hang yourself. What is suffering for us humans? Who can tell me?
- Pain. - Suffering, pain that cannot be endured. - So the term "you are a genius", thirty times a day,
causes suffering in you, pain that you cannot endure? What do you do then?
Do you strangle, kill or destroy the one that is saying that or you escape, run away? What do you do?
Or you just sit and suffer more?
- Of course not, you try to relive yourself of the pain. - Everyone reacts individually. Everyone brings themselves into it differently.
Someone might not even react to it, and someone can hang himself for geniality.
- I am trying to find some alternative human word for suffering, but it seems not to exist in the human dictionary.
Can suffering be a certain form of pleasure? Does that become something that at least fills the day?
You know when people are sick for a long time, especially when its cancer, the sickness itself becomes their meaning of life.
They don't even know it. They are dedicated to it for 24 hours a day, making plans,
at least about the funeral, how many people will come, will there be flowers...
It is one virtual life in someone's head. Is it possible to call that suffering?
- Yes? - According to all, we can't.
- You said it correctly. Suffering is the word
that is used according to the pattern, word that, really, says nothing.
Let's move on. Choose if you want someone to repeat for six months and thirty times a day what a fool you are
or to have serious problems with your kid also during six months.Choose.
Honestly there is nothing to choose from. Without a doubt you choose suffering.
What happens is that this suffering is not really suffering when you are consciously choosing it.
It turns out it all depends on the possibility of choice and previous comparisons.
And then comes a moment when that suffering becomes pleasure
because you managed to strike a deal where it fits you, because a different situations would be far worse.
We either way experience it as suffering, and not as the possibility to avoid real problems and suffering.
Why do people experience everything as suffering? Just because something is not emotionally comfortable,
I wouldn't say unpleasant, just uncomfortable. Hm.
Tell me please, do you visit Fitness centers? There are people that go there their whole lives and for them it all has a meaning.
They run, lift weights and a lot of other things. Could that be called suffering?
- No. - No? - Yes, I can call that suffering.
- Of course in some phase it is not comfortable. Especially if your muscles are not used to it. You lift weights
and you don't feel comfortable and that is what we called suffering in the beginning.
- Muscles were active even before that moment. They didn't just start working all of a sudden. They did the same thing before.
As it turns out the sense of suffering has nothing to do with the source of it.
Muscles were active as they were before, and you feel even pleasantly because they are working like that,
that is why you went to the gym in the first place, to suffer.
But that moment when pleasure turns to suffering, it's actually a mental state, and not emotional.
That is why I asked in the beginning, what is suffering, emotional or mental state.
You all said emotional. As it turns out its purely a mental state.
Yes? - Arman was correct.
- Yes he was. It is a mental state.
If a person they constantly repeat "you are a fool" was a bit smarter
they would learn a lot in those six months, if they knew how.
To learn means not to perceive everything as it is told.
How a person will perceive something is up to them.
It's the same case with the person they constantly tell, "you are a genius". In six months you will turn that person into a moron,
without a lot of suffering from its side, but it will turn into a moron.
So even in that process you call suffering it is possible to get constructive results.
In another process, when we say, "oh how I feel wonderful", "how pleasant I feel", "what joy",
exactly then can a complete destruction of personality happen in every way.
You know, sometimes in new found families deformed successors can appear.
If you look at parents they are completely normal but their children are deformed.
Parents, as all normal parents, try to give their kids their maximum.
Maximum of what? Nobody asks that.
But if it's about maximum of pleasant emotions then consequences are destructive for personality,
or rather personality doesn't develop. Can that be called suffering? Certainly.
What did you whisper to your wife? - He suggests another method of education.
- Educating children starts with education of parents, not with children.
When a parent knows what it means to be a parent, then he needs to approach his child carefully,
approach to him not as a parent but as a wise man.
If they approach as parents then they spoil everything because nothing else exists there, just emotions.
Emotions and drama as far as the eye can see. So, parents, educate yourself! Let's move on.
Our discussion is on the topic of death. Death itself is also a very interesting thing.
You see, we are returning to hell, thank god.
Your first reaction was that it is torture, that it was an emotional state that was unpleasant.
Pay attention, unpleasant state and that is all.
Did anyone of you been to hell before? - And where are we now?
- Yes, this is the most comfortable form of hell on earth.
But just for now because changes happen in hell as well.
So when someone dies he goes to hell. Poor him is so frightened
he thinks it needs to do anything to avoid hell, even though it's practically impossible.
Hell is just one part you must go through to get to the next one, purgatory.
It has nothing to do with the emotional state, pleasant or unpleasant.
They go there with enjoyment and nobody came back from there, if such a hell exists.
That doesn't mean that it's pleasant there.
What I am talking about is how we perceive death from the position in which we have a body, arms, legs aka the position of life.
It is impossible to do it. Like, for example, when we are in cosmos, the gravity doesn't affect us.
Body is in... how to say, airless space,
muscles are not active and processes that require gravity also don't work.
Factually, body becomes an unnecessary attribute because it is not as needed as on earth. It's like that in cosmos.
And now, imagine hell, completely different state, where body as it is cannot exist.
In there, all values, that are not values tied to life, everything in your head, thoughts, I don't know -- soul,
all of them become completely irrelevant, secondary, meaningless, including those that are most valued.
Because time and space lost its parameters.
I'll give you an example. I am usually giving extreme examples; it's easier to explain that way.
Of course we behave toward out children as we do. But would we behave the same
if we were given the opportunity to go back in time and erase things, as easy as using an eraser?
It doesn't matter at all what happened to the child. You can go back three, six, a week back and prevent it.
Do you understand what I am saying? Would your own behavior toward your child be the same now and in two years?
And only because of the factor that you can operate with time? What do you think?
- Different. - What changed? They are your kids; it's all the same.
What changed is that there is no danger! Actually there are but you look at it as there are not
because essentially you turn into half-gods. In any given moment you can change the stream of events.
It means your children are protected. Automatically your behavior toward your children
doesn't contain the element of worry, fear etc.
Emotional spectrum that is now unique becomes invalid.
70% of it all becomes irrelevant.
I am only talking about the ability to operate on the factor of time and only from the position of the biological matter.
Imagine now that you don't have a body.
The value system and your relation to objects completely change.
Which means hell can be terrifying to people only as long as they are people.
When people stop being people, which is very interesting, there is no torture.
There are events, happenings and processes. It all happens even when you are sleeping and the body is not involved.
That is how it all transpires. What is happening in hell.
In Theology and Theosophy it is considered to be a place of selection.
You go to hell from life with full suitcases
and everything needs to be looked over and sorted, because what you came with is a mess, complete chaos.
In hell it is decided what needs to be thrown out and what needs to remain. It is selection.
- Clean up, purgatory. - No, that is not purgatory.
That is hell, decisions on what to keep and what to throw out. Second level, that is purgatory.
Luggage that remained, in which there are no viruses (look at it like that) is then sorted by quality:
this is textile, this is metal, this is plastic; sorted by quality, in groups.
That IS purgatory. Something remains, for example "positive emotions" even though there are no positive emotions in this place,
because when you love yourself you consider them to be positive emotions,
others find it to be narcissistic etc. Nobody sees that as something positive even though you have done no harm to others.
It's all relative either way. After that categorization, those states, those emotions go to heaven.
That is what heaven feeds on. It's like gasoline, so says Theosophy.
Certain part of other emotions (like when I am lifting weights, it's also an emotional state) is returned to hell
and that is what hell feeds on -- it has to eat something. Purgatory is where prearrangement happens.
After that when you, actually not you but as they say your soul, after it fulfilled its functions,
lived the life and filled suitcases... In essence what does it reminds you of? It's like smuggling:
cross the boarded, fill the cases and bring it all back, categorize what goes to the village, what goes to town,
what remains in the house and then two months later do it again, only now in some other country
to bring different goods to sell later. "Over there", it's the same.
That is why they say that the soul is transported into a fitting body,
but it already has the experience of the smuggler that is perfect in smuggling textile and knitwear. So it is placed into a fitting textile-knitwear body
but it already has the experience of the smuggler that is perfect in smuggling textile and knitwear.
So it is placed into a fitting textile-knitwear body and it starts all over again.
Using this popular language I am trying to explain how things connected to death function.
Of course you understand that it's not that simple, but it somehow functions and exists because of something. Life and death.
The most important part is not the soul. This is important. Soul -- it's just a suitcase
to drag your luggage in, nothing more. Soul has no personality.
It's a common hardware thanks to which you can transport something from over here to over there,
because the body cannot be moved. CLAA is the important factor.
On every level of humans development on earth (not just humanity but every creature in any point of galaxy)
depending on their behavior (I am not talking about is it good or bad behavior)
and from their ability to operate with CLAA, CLAA itself changes and gains new parameters.
Which means that the next evolution of this CLAA in some other human, is that CLAA plus, so to speak,
plus specifications of using CLAA in previous iteration. Gauhar today in her life, on a certain way, uses her CLAA
she works with that program, creates something, at least fantasizes if nothing else, but works with it.
She inserts into that software, which is not she, but Gauhar moves and exists because of it,
she constantly inserts a new parameters.
In the next evolution of biological body, some other biological body will use exactly that software.
You will ask: well what happened with Gauhar?
Gauhar ended. No more Gauhar. She as she was doesn't exist.
She as she was doesn't exist. There are traces of her stay, that there is - but Gauhar as she is, no.
There are traces of her stay, that there is - but Gauhar as she is, no.
As you know people don't want to die because they think its something bad.
But then, truthfully, they don’t want to come back
either because they realize: "why the hell would I do back there, it's good here as it is".
More questions? - Maybe later, you go on.
- I will, let's continue the discussion. The most interesting thing is CLAA.
It is exactly in the essence of it all. I don't know if I told you before when I was talking about CLAA,
that for CLAA you need body for it to work and for its evolution; you need hardware.
But there comes a time when CLAA becomes multifunctional
or when it can perform several tasks at once (multitasking), and when the body is of no importance any more.
CLAA can then "take" both Gauhars and Mashas body.
Which means CLAA can "choose" body in which it will operate.
CLAA, already on certain stadium of development -- those are angels (I can't remember If I told you about it),
they are not people, not even beings-- that is the CLAA that "chooses" a body for efficient work,
not forgetting its parameters before the transition from one body to the next. Simply, the parameters are not forgotten.
But in the case of Gauhar, when Gauhar shuts off and she is gone, that CLAA is not working any more.
When it comes to angels, that CLAA is working, "remembering".
This is the evolution of the Internet. Those are angels.
Thusly, with every step and experience of death we are closer to angels.
So angels are people that are finally gone.
- So no more coming back. - It is possible to come back but into what? Into what, my mate.
Especially in the case when you can be anywhere.
Those parameters are no longer human, when you can be anywhere, not you but how to say, your essence,
then all the values are changing.
If you had the ability to manipulate with time, you values would change.
Any questions now? - Quite a lot.
- I am ready, go on. - While I am listening to you, inside of me boils...
Gauhar, this movie is not endless. Ask questions so that I know in which direction to go, what part to open.
- I have a question related to the soup which is cooking all the time.
It seems like it is only necessary to people, it is not needed by anyone else.
- Repeat for me please.
- People during their life, evolution, are cooking this soup, so to speak.
After death that soup is no longer needed, at least that is how I understood it, it is filtrated, only CLAA remains.
Is experience of life only used to perfect CLAA and after that is not needed by anyone?
- Tell me, do you need Einstein? You personally. - No.
- I don't feel Einstein missing either. Maybe someone does, but I think that notion is fabricated.
You know people, you need to... oh, you don't need to but at least try to elevate yourself above the complexes of personality
and look at evolution at least from the position of the planet.
Everything that happens on this planet, it is all for its own development and necessary changes,
and then come other systems, galaxies etc.
The element of personality exists only on the level of personality.
Personality is a very narrow category, it can't see further then half a meter,
deeper then half a meter, it can't see more then two days ahead.
I am not talking about personal plans, but how it is unable to detect things, because it is a small personality.
Question arises, is it possible to be a big personality? It is, but what for?
In the context of what we are talking about, what changes is our way of understanding people?
People begin to function differently, in another time frame, from twenty to thirty years. I am not talking about your plans,
because you can now plan things for twenty to thirty years, but it will all be a fantasy. If you can really operate in that range...
Imagine that for you a minute is not a minute but two years.
Like if I said: "hold on a second, it will be done in eighteen months".
That is a second for you. Factually, everything that would happen in those eighteen months,
gets compacted, like this, in a matter of two, three seconds.
What is changes is the perception of time, in general and time of your existence, your emotions, everything yours.
There is no more human there, it's a non-human.
That doesn't mean it's not needed, just that it doesn't exist. From the position of people, it's a none-existing, meaningless category.
Such people do exist, just not on this level.
With them, something in here, in their head, gets stuck in CLAA
and then they begin to perceive the category of time differently.
Then they start to experiment by gaining data. There are a lot of those people, like Tesla, Da Vinci etc.
They remain in history because for us they were unusual and that's it.
They changed history but they are not missed by anyone.
Usually they are either destroyed or isolated.
That is how it's been and that is how it shall be because humanity doesn't operate in those spectrums of time and space.
Halo? - There was an interruption Ruben. - On which part?
- People like Tesla changed history but...
- Yes, they change history but in the world of people, they are not needed,
because humanity doesn't see it like that. They have nobody to communicate.
Da Vinci had no one to talk to. He wasn't understood,
nor do they understand him now. Back then they considered him crazy. Tesla as well.
They changed history exactly because they weren't people, like we see people to be.
Humanity always want's to destroy them, because they are considered a dangerous element.
Only because they can create something that we can't. That is how it's been and that is how it shall be.
All of this is possible if the range of personality is expanded.
But by doing so a person is moving away from the society. Not moving closer, but further away.
You will remember that person when it dies. Because when it was alive, it represents a threat.
This is why it's easy to love Gagarin now that he is gone.
- Why was he...? - Gagarin was the first, though not really first, but among the first to be in cosmos.
And cosmos my friends, is not the First President's Park (Almaty, KZ).
Cosmos is a place where time and space function differently.
There is no gravity there, which automatically means that all the particles behave completely different.
If you go there, you see such things (like I gave an example with the second that "spread" to eighteen months)
and realize that everything is possible there. And when a person with that kind of experience,
new experience, that saw bunch of things, heard bunch of things, and at the same time remained alive, that is no human any more.
When someone suddenly experiences something that big he stops being human. All values change completely.
It's like Pandora's box. Do you know what that is? It's a case with all the secrets.
If you revealed the secret, set loose that force and felt it, that's the end of story.
You are no longer able to return to your former skin, nor to forget.
What you saw and heard, it is the most interesting and the most valuable.
You will never be able to explain it. Interestingly, nobody wants to explain that to anyone because such people are considered idiots.
As such, people that change the world are needed by humanity only when they are dead,
when their names are possible to be carried as paroles. "Christ! Oh just how Christ was, yes, just how he was."
"Oh just how Christ was."
He must have though: "I barely managed to get out of there and look what they want from me."
What can you do, he was like that. Same with Tesla. There were a lot of them my friends.
Those people change the world, influence evolution. Common folk don't influence evolution
because they don't have with what; they are just a product of it.
- It's like that?
What did you say, Gauhar?
- What do we need to do, to have what to influence the evolution with?
- One's again, please. "What do we need to...". - What do we need to do, to have what to influence the evolution with?
Is it again a specific CLAA in question and the rest is "nothing"?
- Everything that exists depends on CLAA. Everything that is depends on how you use that software.
Ok, I get it. I understand your question. So: software is humongous.
It's huge; it's a channel through which that state of time and space that don't exist enters you.
All the same happens during dreams and while sleeping.
When the channel is working, it's all working the same. Then to you, your body and time outside
are not an issue because in dreams you are overly closed. The problem is not in CLAA.
he problem is in the process of using that CLAA or so called consciousness.
For now I'll use only human words, because just now I am forming new technology for using CLAA
In consciousness, as we called the process so far, I don't even know what that is
but I know that it is not the correct word for it. In consciousness you can find all your limitations
not all your possibilities, because possibilities are in CLAA. Limitations themselves and not knowing how to use those possibilities
are found in consciousness. That means that consciousness needs to be changed.
You need to teach consciousness how not to work like it worked yesterday. See how interestingly I said that?
Not to work correctly, but how not to work like it did yesterday, because you already worked like that yesterday.
Otherwise, if repeating is a mother of knowledge, like in that example with 30 repetitions,
then it would be great. Yes, yes, if repeating is the mother of knowledge then in half a year you will learn that you are a fool. Finally!
No, repetition is not the mother of knowledge my friends. Repetition is, namely, a category of "dumbing down".
So it's better not to repeat but work in a new way, it's more interesting.
To work in a new way is not something everyone wants. It's not that they can't.
They think, why do that when it's good already? These are magic words.
When you ask them why that is good, the answer is always "Well I am feeling pleasant".
And there we are, again, stuck on emotions. So this "good", is just a quality of pleasant emotion.
And here we are talking about people as reasonable beings?
Give them grass to eat, let them fill their bellies and they will be "good". And that is all they need.
Questions, my friends.
- The question is: it looks like CLAA is hanged to dry until the moment of new birth, like it is on a rope, waiting for its time?
- Absolutely not. Absolutely not. CLAA is software. Imagine my friends!
Today it's a lot easier to imagine then we could do fifty years ago.
We are playing a game on the computer, an online game. Today all of your kids are doing it.
There is some software, huge and powerful. And every one of us is, though the computer, connected to that one software.
But that software is used differently by all of us. That's right?
Aren't all of you playing those farms or whatnot, not even sure how those stupid games are called? -Yes we do.
There are games where vehicles chasing many people, simultaneously.
But the positions, in that software from which they are looking at who they are chasing are different. There are ten positions.
So, software is one but there are ten completely different positions.
Your position, your organism, your dynamic of using it, that is your CLAA.
You can use it differently, it depends what kind of a player you are, what your consciousness is like.
CLAA is one and the same, even though your CLAA depends exactly on how you are using that main CLAA.
If you are changing the way in which you are using your computer, in that game, then CLAA has a very wide range.
CLAA doesn't hang. When the player leaves the game, it's over, the end. Then comes another player.
It's like udder, everyone is sucking milk but milk is centralized.
Because my friends the meaning of CLAA itself is not your channel toward it but it's richness faaaaaar away.
And that CLAA is sucked by trillions of calves and they enrich it. It's a rough comparison.
That is called the center or CLAGON. So that CLAA of yours is not hanging anywhere, you are just offline,
you are done, out of network, faded out. When you are back online, if you are online, it is turned on.
It is not completely offline. As long as you are alive you are in the game.
You have a working liver or..., no difference how you are using it.
Because maybe you stopped, in your car, and you are drinking coffee but you are still in the game.
As long as you exist, there is your CLAA. If you crashed, you are offline.
When the second player appears, on a similar level, that will using your parameters pick a similar car,
player that will "look" like you based on your biological parameters;
really he will "take" exactly that form of CLAA that you used to have.
That is why he will have this feeling like someone already played in that car, like he already drove that car.
Ask me. - Does that mean the notion of personality is secondary at best?
- Very good question. Depends on the position from which you are observing.
Dynamic of the game depends on the quality of all players.
How each gamer plays individually, that is his personality. But for his personality to operate correctly,
that someone needs to use that personality in conditions in which he exists, in time and space.
Which means, to use this computer, in this room, at this hour and then the whole dynamic can start.
Personality is not secondary; it is exactly primary when we are talking about people. But when they are offline,
then it becomes secondary, it is irrelevant then.
When he crashes there is no personality. More questions?
- It's not really a question. Can you help me please to properly understand something?
Does it all mean that when death happens, the process of modifying CLAA is not possible?
- It all ends. CLAA changes only when you are in the game, when you have a body. When you don't, there is no CLAA.
- Figuratively speaking, I died. I am gone. Can I produce emotions?
- You are gone; you don't have with what to do that. To produce emotions you need a body.
- Do I produce thoughts? - To produce thoughts...
Only, I am not sure at the moment what you mean by "thoughts"? - Thinking.
- It is a big question is that "you" who is thinking. It doesn't matter, I will answer like this:
for you to do some crap, you need *** because without it you can't do it.
Imagine that your head is *** from which you produce crap and you call that thinking.
Personally I would say that you use your head to produce crap rather then think, because at the end of the day
what you get is of similar quality. But you need to poop because it's a part of life, the dynamic of life.
When you say thought you have a wrong understanding of it, maybe not wrong
but natural and incorrect understanding or feeling what is that thought.
At that moment you do not approach the word thought the same as you approach the word ***.
When we say thought then people see it as something huge, sacred, far etc. My friends, it is not so.
What you call thought is just a current, electric signal that has it's own frequency.
In here, in your head, one neuron was disturbed and a signal started to spread itself... and that is your thought.
Know that thoughts go through electric joints. That's the way it is.
Don't consider thought to be something it is not, it doesn't deserve it. It is just one lasting natural product.
The quality of that product depends on how you are using the possibility of your CLAA in your body. Which is where consciousness comes in.
And everybody, of course thinks that if they think, they are doing one grand thing for themselves and it's the environment that doesn't notice it.
This was a bit on the topic of thoughts.
- I didn't fully understand. You say that our initial CLAA goes up after death, comes back to the source
because the configuration it was in no longer exists. - Absolutely correct. Absolutely correct.
But there is a whole register of the time when CLAA was used and how it was used while you were playing the game.
- Why does it exist? - Yes, why does it exist.
- Why does the register exist? Because next time some mom and dad get one small biological monster,
it sucks the CLAA it fits the most. That is how CLAA evolves.
If the player, in that car, was a professional driver,
then it is important that plugin (I don't know how to say, maybe channel) doesn't fall into the hands of some amateur
so that it doesn't start to degrade but to be used by someone who has the chance to take a step forward in the game.
- Is it possible for CLAA to degrade? - Of course it is possible.
However you turn it when a person appears it's an empty box.
CLAA forces it to walk, move its arms, legs, eyes...but conscious processes are almost non existing.
Then CLAA starts to intensively develop that person, to download the history of the game to it
rules of the game and specifications of the game that CLAA already played.
That is why that person always has an awkward feeling that somebody, with somebody else, did something.
That is because someone already played the game.
Since it has those biological abilities that are needed for that game then it is possible to make an evolving player out of it.
Will that happen or not depends from how formed the consciousness is. It is not yet formed.
I already talked about that consciousness is not a natural process; it's a fabricated process.
How the consciousness gets formed is influenced by education, social environment etc.
and by people who says: "that is not it, you are crazy, things are like this". Because everyone knows everything.
If a person is lucky, looking through the social prism, then it will be important, rich and fat.
If its not "that" lucky, then it can be some Nikola Tesla or Christ.
- So the principle of incarnation is sustained.
- You are correct; it is sustained, but not explained all the way. It is sustained.
What can we find in this concept of incarnation?
I will try to bring it closer to you. You are a sheep that likes to chew grass.
And to you, as a sheep, an opportunity to chew grass appeared again, to enter the second circle.
Sheep get's ecstatic -- yaaaay, I will chew grass again!
- It turns out that parents are vegetarians. -Yes. Yes. The sheep would say: They stiffed me.
In another concept, you are a player that can get involved with a complicated game
but now the game is even more complicated. You want to give it a go?
And he says -- "yes I can't wait!" And how is the game called? It is called life! "Let's play! Pass on the game pad."
The game is just a game. Someone is getting pleasure from playing the game of creation,
someone the game of chewing grass. Both are useful things.
But for one you need one consciousness, for the other, some other consciousness.
Honestly I don't know which one is more complicated. Chewing grass your whole life, that is not easy.
You come to kill yourself, not even sure on what level that is.
- A question connected to CLAA. I understood that waiting for the next reincarnation is impossible,
like CLAA doesn't register outer signals. It is how I understood it. - No, that is not how it's done.
The mechanism begins to work when the hardware is done, when mom and dad finished the heavy job,
finished gasping and sweating. Nine moths passed, a computer is formed, and opened for the first time.
When you open it for the first time, then bios, his basic functions
are immediately loaded and it begins to work. It is birth.
After that the computer is open for reception and begins to get filled,
depending on the configuration of the computer in any given moment -- but it is never filled more then it needs to be.
- Person was born, lives the moments of its life, there comes a moment where it realizes
that someone already played that game, like it was seen before, something like deja vu? Correct?
- Not exactly deja vu, but close to it. - Does that mean that we live several lives at the same time?
Or it means that events are repeating? - This is not about events. Repeating of events has nothing in common with it.
You didn't understand it clearly. When someone is sleeping, even in his dreams some events from long past might unfold.
But he doesn't know, he sees it as: "oooh, the dream I had". He is under the strong impression
but it is very possible, while he sleeps, that a movie that already happened and already recorded in CLAA, unfolded.
It emotionally fine-tunes it to the frequency of the player that used to play
aka even in dreams personality can forms, and consciousness too. Deja vu, that is a completely different element.
- I am telling you exactly the opposite, it doesn't happen in dreams to me, but in reality. I often see what will happen.
Three minutes before something happens I already know about it.
I know that such and such man will come, what he will say, what my answer will be.
Correct, but that goes for everyone sitting in the same room with you. 2-3 minutes... Something else is happening there.
Sensing that something will happen is completely natural because your brain, with the possibilities of your biological structure,
is capable of registering signals no matter how far those signals are.
If a man walks and you don't see him, that doesn't mean that he isn't walking,
that his thoughts are not pointed in that direction. That is registering. You mention two, three minutes; that is all normal.
It is a natural state of human beings. If you are developing in that direction, you could cover not just two, three minutes
but fifteen, twenty, half and hour. The question is, what for Arman? It is senseless.
- Why? - People close to you will not understand you. You will isolate yourself.
Basically you will analyze things from the position of a common man
but you will see things half an hour in advance. Conflict will emerge there. Usually such people cannot function in social life.
They isolate themselves and can't figure out how to exist. They don't know how to perceive reality
is what they are seeing happening now or will happen in half an hour? What is real there? For him, it's one and the same.
- Positioning oneself as if something already happened. Why does that repeat?
- The speed at which processes get registered is very high for everything to function lightning fast:
process got registered, entered into the memory -- in a micro second that process repeats,
exists from the memory and you have a feeling it already happened. It happened -- it's a variant. There are three.
Let's not talk about that, it's another topic entirely, remembering. Did I spoke about that before?
There are three options. People, and not just people but biological matter is a very interesting mechanism.
With possibilities like that you can go crazy. Consciousness is very simple.
It doesn't even know how to use it and doesn't even have the need to.
Who knows, it's not on me to solve it all. Now let's say something about death in the end. Masha?
- Is it possible to communicate with the people from the future? - No problem of course. No problem.
But go on, you ask Mash.
- If you said that after death it's all finished, than with whom do we communicate?
- I will explain. Sit down it is simple. Mash, ask what you want?
- Can I ask now? - Yes. - If nobody objects, I would like to return to the previous lecture. You ended it with one sentence
-the quality of death depends on the quality of life.
Could you please decode this for us and explain the connection between the quality of death and quality of life?
- Mash, the question is rather deep, you know?
It is not hard to answer it but it is hard to answer it shortly.
Let's not discuss it now, during today's lecture. It's not a simple answer; it's an answer in form of a lecture.
I will however answer the simpler question, is it possible to talk with those who "crashed". Who asked me that?
- Gallia. - My dear Gallia. That is possible without any problems.
Everything you need is your brain. The secret is in you,
not in you, but in abilities within you. How you remember some person, existing or not,
begets the question -- what it is to "remember"?
You don't know this but in you, with the help of those electronic impulses, interior processes,
one virtual copy of that person is formed.
Of course for that image to be created certain things need to exist to produce it. In actuality you begin to be it.
You "become" it. It's like with Bluetooth, tuning you for someone, that is there or not, it doesn't matter.
Its elements of CLAA start to be perceived by your brain. It's like you are speaking to that person.
To do that, you only need your abilities, your brain. And that is all.
- It sounds like self-deception. - You know Vadim, self-deception is the reason people live
and keep on finding the most comfortable form for that, how to exactly deal with self-deception.
You don't know anything else. Your perception of the world is your own self-deception.
There was an interruption. As I was saying, Vadim, everything we call life represents some form of self-deception.
Because except for us, there is nothing else.
And so the way we perceive things is nothing but a form of self-deception. By self-deception I don't mean anything bad.
It is very subjective. And the fact that it is subjective means it can't be objective;
because you are situated in the enclosed space called your body. So self-deception and quality of it, is everything we strive towards.
We call that education, insight. That's it my friends.
Let's end on this note; I am not sure if it's optimistic.
I have a meeting with some people.
And you, you should think about this. Think while you are still alive, there won't be time after that.
OK? Big thanks to all. Thank you for coming. We will be in touch. - Thank you, Ruben.