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>> GRETA: HE SAYS IT IS NOT A
JOBS BILL JUST A BIG TAX
INCREASE THAT IS SENATOR
COBURN SPEAKING.
TALKING ABOUT
PRESIDENT OBAMA'S JOBS PLAN.
THERE'S MORE.
SENATOR COBURN TIPS US OFF TO
WHAT IS HAPPENING TO THE
GOVERNMENT AGENCY THAT IS
EXPOSING BILLIONS IN WASTE AND
FRAUD.
WE SPOKE WITH SENATOR COBURN
EARLIER TONIGHT.
NICE TO SEE YOU.
>> GOOD TO SEE YOU.
>> GRETA: YOU HAVE HAD A
CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE
PRESIDENT'S JOBS BILL, WHAT DO
YOU THINK ABOUT IT?
>> IT IS A BIG TAX INCREASE
THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
IF YOU LOOK AT IT, IT IS MAYBE
81 BILLION DOLLARS IN SPENDING
CUTS.
AND 1.45 TRILLION IN TAX
INCREASES.
THAT'S NOT A JOBS BILL.
JUST READ A REPORT, NUMBER ONE
DETRIMENT TO JOB CREATION IN
THIS COUNTRY IS THE
PRESIDENT'S HEALTH CARE PLAN.
BUSINESSES AREN'T GOING TO
HIRE PEOPLE THAT THEY KNOW
THEY ARE GOING TO BE MANDATED
TO COVER THAT'S THE NUMBER ONE
THING KEEPING PEOPLE RIGHT NOW
FROM HIRING NEW PEOPLE.
BECAUSE THEY KNOW NEXT YEAR,
AND THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR
AFTER THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE
AN ADDITIONAL BENEFIT THAT
THEY DON'T NOW COVER.
>> GRETA: YOURS AND MINE
FAVORITE ISSUE, LIGHTLY, A
YEAR AGO YOU COMMISSIONED THE
GAO TO DO A REPORT ON WASTE
AND FRAUD.
I STILL HAVE IT ON MY DESK.
THEY ARE NOW GETTING CUT.
>> IT IS VERY DISAPPOINTING
THAT THE APPROPRIATIONS
COMMITTEE WOULD CUT THE MEMBER
OF CONGRESS BUDGET 3%, BUT CUT
THE ONLY EFFECTIVE TOOL THAT
WE HAVE TO HELP US WITH
OVERSIGHT 8 1/2%.
WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IS ASK
THEM WHY THEY WOULD DARE DO
THAT?
>> GRETA: WHY ARE THEY DOING
THAT?
I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYONE DO
ANYTHING WITH THAT REPORT
WHICH IS ASTOUNDING.
WHY IS GAO GETTING CUT SO MUCH
AND CONGRESS ISN'T?
>> I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER.
I HAVE SOME SUSPICIONS.
I DIDN'T KNOW THEY ARE
ACCURATE.
THEY ARE DOING THE JOB THAT
THE APPROPRIATION COMMITTEE
SHOULD BE DOING.
THEY ARE HELPING THOSE OF US
THAT CARE ABOUT WASTE, FRAUD
AND ABUSE AND DUPLICATION IN
THE GOVERNMENT THAT SHOW HOW
MANY STUPID THINGS GO ON AND
HOW MANY THINGS WE ARE FUNDING
THAT DON'T HAVE GOOD RESULTS.
THEY ARE HELPING US DO THAT.
WHO FUNDS THAT?
THE PROP RAGES COMMITTEE.
I COULD BE -- THE
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE.
BE PAYBACK.
THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH
THAT.
IT IS A PROFESSIONAL
ORGANIZATION, HIGHLY COMPETENT,
DEDICATED AND WANT TO HELP FIX
OUR COUNTRY.
AND THE APPROPRIATION
COMMITTEE IS GUTTING THEM.
GROWTH ONE THING FOR THIS
REPORT, I HAVEN'T READ IT, IT
IS MASTERFUL IN TERMS OF
IDENTIFYING WASTE AND FRAUD.
I'VE SEEN NO ACTION ON IT.
NOW I'M HEARING FROM YOU,
THEIR BUDGET IS GETTING CUT.
>> THERE'S BEEN SOME ACTION.
WE PASSED A REDUCTION OF FIVE
BILLION DOLLARS.
THEN THE BILL GOT WITHDRAWN.
I OFFERED THAT SAME AMENDMENT
THIS LAST WEEK ON THE FEMA
BILL.
AND 10 OF THE PEOPLE WHO VOTED
FOR IT BEFORE VOTED AGAINST
IT.
SO THEY DON'T WANT THE
ELIMINATION DONE.
YOU CAN SEE IT IS POLITICAL
WHEN YOU KNOW NOTHING IS GOING
TO HAPPEN.
WHEN IT IS GOING TO DO
SOMETHING ABOUT IT AND CUT
FIVE BILLION DOLLARS OUT OF
THE GOVERNMENT, THEY DIDN'T
VOTE FOR IT.
>> GRETA: DO YOU THINK THEY
DON'T GET IT?
I HAVE A HARD TIME
UNDERSTANDING THAT ANY MEMBER
OF CONGRESS HOUSE OR SENATE
WOULD VOTE AGAINST GETTING RID
OF WASTE AND FRAUD.
>> I DON'T THINK THEIR
CALCULUS GOES THERE.
IT IS WHAT LOOKS GOOD FOR MY
NEXT ELECTION.
>> GRETA: IT CAN'T BE THAT
GOOD IS IT?
>> WHY DID WE GO FROM 54 TO 64
VOTES ON THE SAME -- WHY?
BECAUSE THEY ARE PLAYING THE
PARTY LINE RATHER THAN WHAT IS
GOOD FOR AMERICA.
THEY ARE VOTING ON WHAT IS
BEST FOR A PARTY.
REPUBLICANS DID IT TOO.
WHAT IS BEST FOR THE PARTY
RATHER THAN THE COUNTRY.
I'M PRETTY CYNICAL, I'VE BEEN
HERE 6 1/2 YEARS, MORE THAN
THAT I'VE SEEN FROM IT THE
INSIDE.
IT IS SO DISAPPOINTING TO ME
TO SEE PEOPLE NOT TAKE A
COURAGEOUS STAND AND DO THE
RIGHT, BEST THIN FOR OUR
COUNTRY BECAUSE OF SOME
POLITICAL CONSIDERATION.
THAT'S WHY WE ARE IN THE IN
THE TROUBLE WE ARE IN.
THE NUMBER ONE GOAL IS NEXT
ELECTION NOT NEXT GENERATION.
>> GRETA: THIS SHOULDN'T BE A
REPUBLICAN, DEMOCRAT THING.
IF THERE IS EASY WASTE, GET
RID OF IT.
>> THERE IS EASY WASTE.
THERE'S 350 BILLION DOLLARS OF
EASY WASTE IF CONGRESS WOULD
INFORM THEMSELVES AND DO THE
HARD WORK AND FEND OFF THE
INTEREST GROUPS THAT WANT THE
WASTE THAT GET THE MONEY FOR
NOTHING AND DON'T ACCOMPLISH
ANYTHING WITH THE PURPOSES, WE
COULD DO -- GO A LONG WAYS IN
FIXING OUR COUNTRY.
IT TAKES HARD WORK.
YOU HAVE TO STUDY, YOU HAVE TO
KNOW IT AND BE ABLE TO GO OUT
AND NOT BE AFRAID TO DEFEND
WHAT YOU'RE CUTTING, BECAUSE
EVERYTHING THAT WE CUT HAS AN
INTEREST GROUP THAT IS LIVING
OFF OF IT.
THEY ARE SUCKING OFF OF IT.
IT IS WASTEFUL.
IT DIDN'T ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING.
BUT THEY ARE GETTING THE
MONEY.
SO PEOPLE -- POLITICIANS AVOID
CONFRONTATION.
OUR COUNTRY CAN'T AFFORD THAT
ANY MORE.
WE HAVE TO CONFRONT THE FACT
THAT WE ARE BANKRUPT ALREADY,
WE JUST DON'T KNOW IT.