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And so now in 2011,
some years have passed.
If somebody asked you the dreaded legacy question
and what you feel your legacy is actually about,
how would you answer that?
For me, the main legacy I'd like to leave
is to be able to enable
blank sheets for other people.
You know, create those creative spaces
where other people have the opportunity to do something
that reminds them of their individuality and creative space.
Whether I'm doing that through education...
..or whether I'm doing that through creating some ideas
that might inspire people to actually create their own challenges.
I always thought that my work was most successful
when people hated it
because it then meant that they were producing their own reaction again
to my reactive space.
I always thought people shouldn't particularly like what I do,
but they should be forced to question it.
As soon as people started liking it too much, that was it.
It was ineffective in some ways.
So no, I didn't see my legacy as my work...
..unless people confide in it some new questions that are relevant.
And if I had to twist your arm between your shoulder blades
and say, "Come on, Neville, pick one thing",
what is the thing you'd look back on with particular pride?
Well, The Times was, in a way, was great
because having been on the fringe,
and perceived on the fringe,
and then to do something which was so central
to the British establishment was quite amazing.
My mum was really proud of that.
If there's anything other than The Times, it's probably FUSE.
FUSE is a kind of experimental magazine,
where we gave lots of different designers
that chance to enter a laboratory pretty much
for a period of time
and look at what visual language should be doing.
I think every point in time
needs a change in our languages.
Otherwise, you're using the same language
to address changing problems.
So I think language is a fluid space. It's continually evolving.
And FUSE is still alive.
We're producing this year's 20 years since FUSE began.
I mean, that's extraordinary.
And this year, we're putting together a book of 1 to 20 of FUSE.
400 pages.
It's stunning. I'm really proud of FUSE.
And I think I'd like to see it continue to inspire and challenge.