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>>> MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT JOBS
OHIO AND MORE SPECULATION ABOUT
JOHN KASICH'S FUTURE.
>>> EACH WEEK, IT SEEM THERE IS
ARE MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT ETHIC
AND TRANSPARENCY OF THE STATE'S
QUASIPRIVATE DEVELOPMENT AGENCY,
JOBS OHIO.
THIS WEEK, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
REPORTS GOVERNOR KASICH, A
FORMER BOARD MEMBER OF
WORTHINGTON INDUSTRIES, WAS
STILL GETTING DEFERRED PAYMENTS
FROM THE COMPANY AS THE STATE
WAS AWARDING THE COMPANY TAX
CREDITS.
LAST WEEK, THE "DAYTON DAILY
NEWS" REPORTED THAT TWO-THIRDS
OF THE JOBS OHIO BOARD HAVE
FINANCIAL TIES TO COMPANIES
GETTING STATE HELP.
KASICH SAYS HE HAS NO ROLE IN
SELECTING WHO GETS GRANTS AND
WHO DOES NOT.
>> LOOK, THIS IS POLITICS.
THIS IS JUST -- I'M USED TO IT.
IT'S MUD SLINGING.
LET ME TELL YOU THIS, THE FACT
OF THE MATTER IS WHETHER IT'S A
FRIEND OR WHETHER IT'S A FOE, IF
THEY'RE GOING TO CREATE JOBS AND
THE INCENTIVES THAT ARE
NECESSARY TO ENCOURAGE THEM ARE
WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF REASON AND
ARE REFLECTING THE PROPER TURN
ON INVESTMENT, WE WANT TO DO IT.
>> JACKIE, THIS COMES DOWN TO
HOW MUCH INFLUENCE, IF ANY, DOES
THE GOVERNOR HAVE OVER THE
DECISIONS THAT ARE MADE BY JOBS
OHIO?
>> WELL, I'M -- REALLY DON'T
KNOW EXACTLY.
WE HAVE THIS BOARD THAT HE HAS
POINTED A PEOPLE TO BUT THEN WE
ARE TOLD THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS
BOARD DOESN'T ACTUALLY, YOU
KNOW, MAKE THE DECISIONS AS TO
WHICH BUSINESSES GET WHAT
INCENTIVES AND AT THE END, YOU
KNOW, JOBS OHIO SHOWS THESE
INCENTIVES AND "BUT THE
DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT IS THE
ONE HANDING OUT THE MONEY.
THERE'S NOT A CLEAR PASS HERE,
BUT IT DOES DEFINITELY RAISE
SOME EVEN MORE QUESTIONS JUST
LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, THE TIES
AND KASICH'S PAST.
>> IS THIS ANY DIFFERENT THAN
THE -- BECAUSE THIS IS JOBS OHIO
AND BECAUSE THERE IS CONTROVERSY
OVER THE PRIVACY AND THE
NIMBLENESS AND EVERYTHING ELSE,
THE STATE IS GIVING GRANTS, BUT
A OF JOBS OHIO, GIVING MORE
SCRUTINY THIS TIME AROUND?
>> LESS SCRUTINY, BECAUSE
THERE'S NO AUTHORITY FOR THE
GOVERNMENT TO PEEK INTO THIS
ENTITY.
THE GOVERNOR SIGNED INTO LAW A
BILL WHICH ELIMINATED OVERSIGHT
BY THE STATE AUDITOR AND BY THE
ETHICS COMMISSION SO, THE MONEY
COMES PRIMARILY THROUGH THE OHIO
TAX CREDIT AUTHORITY, THAT AWARD
INCENTIVES TO BUSINESSES, THE
MEMBERS OF THAT BOARD ARE PINTED
BY THE GOVERNOR.
>> TWO IMPORTANT THINGS TO
REMEMBER, NOT A SINGLE GATE
KEEPER AND THERE WERE SOME
ALLEGATIONS MADE FOR SOME
VALIDATION THROUGH THE
STRICKLAND AND THE
ADMINISTRATION S, THERE WAS A
SINGLE GATE KEEPER TYING THE
GRANTS TO CAMPAIGN DONATIONS.
THAT IS SOMETHING YOU TAKE OUT A
LITTLE BIT.
I THINK THE CORE REASON, ON
RECORD, WE HAVE THIS CORPORATE
GIVE AWAY OR BUSINESS INCENTIVE,
HOWEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT
BECAUSE IN SOME LEVELS, OUR TAX
STRUCTURE IS NOT COMPETITIVE TO
OTHER STATES AROUND US AS TO
CERTAIN TYPES OF TAXES.
SO, PERHAPS LOWERING THE INCOME
TAX, THE GOVERNOR WANTS TO
ABOLLISH IT, NOT GOING TO GO
THAT FAR, BUT CAPPING IT AT
2 1/2%, MIGHT MAKE SOME OF THE
PROGRAMS, AND THE NUMBERS COME
OUT ABOUT RIGHT, ABOUT $4
BILLION IN UNNECESSARY, I THINK
SOME OF THESE TAX GIVEAWAYS WERE
SUPERFLUOUS.
>> THE CHAIR AND THE HEAD OF THE
ETHICS COMMISSION SAID NOTHING
WRONG HERE, THIS IS FINE.
>> NOT SURE EXACTLY SAID THAT I
THINK HE JUST DIDN'T FALL WITHIN
THE PURVIEW OF WHAT THEY WERE
LOOKING AT WITHIN THE ETHICS
COMMISSION.
>> A CLEAN BREAK AND CLEAR AS A
WHISTLE.
>> HE WAS REFERRING, THERE ARE
TWO ISSUES HERE.
HE WAS ACTUALLY REFERRING TO THE
DEFERRED COMPENSATION THAT THE
GOVERNOR IS RECEIVING BUT THE
SECOND ISSUE IS THE ONE THAT
JACKIE BEGAN TO ADDRESS AND THAT
IS WITH RESPECT TO THE
QUASIPUBLIC ORGANIZATION THAT
GENE ADDRESSED IS TRYING TO
BRING BUSINESS INTO OHIO.
AND IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE YOU
ASK ABOUT SCRUTINY AND THE
PROBLEM IS THAT BECAUSE FROM
JOE'S PERSPECTIVE, THE SCRUTINY
ISN'T THERE BECAUSE IT'S BEEN
BLOCKED BY LEGISLATION BY THE
GENERAL ASSEMBLY, THEN WHAT YOU
HAVE IS SUSPICIOUS.
FROM A POLITICAL STANDPOINT, I
THINK THAT'S MUCH WORSE.
>> AS THE ETHICS COMMISSION
CHAIRMAN RIGHTLY NOTED, THERE
WAS PRECEDENT FOR KASICH TO
RECEIVE DEFERRED COMPENSATION.
KATHLEEN BURKE, WHO WAS HAD A
COMMISSION UNDER STRICKLAND, HAD
AN ARRANGEMENT THAT SHE HAD
DIFFERENT COMPENSATION SO THEY
REALLY COULDN'T DO MUCH WITH
THAT.
EVERYTHING APPEARED VERY LEGAL.
>> THIRD STEP HERE, THEY HAVE
ASKED FOR INFORMATION THROUGH
PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST AS TO
WHETHER THE GOVERNOR HAS
REPORTED THIS INCOME.
I WOULD SUSPECT THAT HE PROBABLY
HAS.
>> IS IT TOUGH -- THE GOVERNOR
WILL NO DOUBT CAMPAIGN ON THE
SUCCESS HE SAYS OF JOBS OHIO.
>> THIS IS A DIFFUSE SYSTEM.
THERE'S NO GOOD WAY TO DO THIS.
PREVIOUS SINGLE GATE KEEPERS.
WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THIS
DEBATE.
>> TEXT DOESN'T HAVE AN INCOME
TAX AND STILL GIVE OUT
INCENTIVES TO BUSINESSES.
>> THEY STILL DO BUT THEY HAVE
ANOTHER PROBLEM DOWN THERE OF
SOME OTHER THINGS.
>> EASIER FOR KASICH TO CLAIM IT
FOR OHIO THAN THE DEMOCRATS TO
SAY IT'S NOT WORKING.
THE BURDEN IS ON THE DEMOCRATS
TO PROVE THAT THIS IS BROKEN AND
THAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH NOT
BEING ABLE TO GIVE ETHICS
INVESTIGATE AND LOOK INTO SOME
COMMISSION NOT ABLE TO
OF THESE THINGS BECAUSE, YOU
KNOW, ETHICALLY, IT MAY BE SOUND
ON PAPER BUT IT DOESN'T, YOU
KNOW, DOESN'T SMELL GOOD.
>> EXACTLISM WE, THE DEMOCRATS,
DON'T HAVE TO ATTACK WHETHER IT
WORKS OR NOT.
WE CAN DISCUSS THE SECRECY AND
THE SUSPICION AND LET THE VOTERS
DECIDE.
>> THIS IS MY IDEA.
LIKE A GOOD CEO.
THAT COULD BE HIS ARGUMENT AND
KEEP ARM'S LENGTH TO JOBS OHIO.
>> HE WILL CLAIM CREDIT.
A POLITICAL FACT OF LIFE THAT
>> SURE.
GOVERNORS ALWAYS CLAIM CREDIT
FOR JOBS GAINED AND ALWAYS GET
THE BLAME FOR JOBS LOST.
THAT'S WHAT CONTRIBUTED TO TED
STRICKLAND'S DEFEAT IN 2010.
DUE TO THE RERECESSION, NOT
NECESSARILY HIS FAULT.
GET BLAMED FOR T
>>> TOPIC TWO REMEMBER
SPECULATED BOO BOTH 2016
PRESIDENTIAL RACE IRK NOT MUCH
ELSE TO TALK ABOUT?
THIS WEEK, JOHN KASICH GIVES US
MATERIAL, SPEECH TO THE FRANKLIN
COUNTY G GOP, KASICH PUSHED FOR
A BALANCED FEDERAL BUDGET
AMENDMENT, FEDERAL BUDGET
AMENDMENT AND REFERRED TO OBAMA
CARE AS HILLARY CARE.
IS THE GOVERNOR FUELING
SPECULATION THAT HE IS THE BEST
REPUBLICAN TO TAKE ON HILLARY
CLINTON OR ANOTHER DEMOCRAT IN
2016?
HE SAYS NO.
>> ALWAYS IN POLITICS, PEOPLE
ARE TRYING TO ASSUME WHAT YOUR
ULTERIOR MOTIVE IS.
MY MOTIVE HERE IS TO GET THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN A PLACE
WHERE MY DAUGHTERS CAN HAVE A
GOOD LIFE AND SECONDLY, I DO
WANT TO SEE HEALTH CARE REFORM.
JUST NOT THE HEALTH CARE REFORM
WE HAVE.
MY ONLY POINT ON THAT IS WHEN
WASHINGTON HOLDS US BACK, WHO
HONES PAY THE PRICE.
>> HOW FAR A CAMPAIGN STUMP
SPEECH OF A PRESIDENTIAL
CANDIDATE?
>> JUST A CONVERGE GEMS OF
MY COLLEAGUE, JOE BURTON,
THINGS.
FLESHED IT OUT REALLY WELL IN
THE STORY.
ON TOP OF COMPARING OBAMA CARE
TO HILLARY CARE, THE FREDERICK
COUNTY GOP, FLATTERING STORY IN
THE "WALL STREET JOURNAL."
IT CALLED HIM A SOFTER BRAND OF
I THINK JOHN KASICH NO DOUBT
CONSERVATIVE.
LIKED THAT VERY MUCH.
ONE OF THE IRONIES OF THIS STORY
IS HE WENT OUT AND I THINK TRIED
ESTABLISH A NATIONAL PLATFORM AS
A GUY WHO WAS GONNA LEAD A
NATIONAL MOVEMENT FOR A BALANCED
BUDGET AMENDMENT, YET AT THE
SAME TIME, HE WANTS TO TAKE IN
BILLIONS OF FEDERAL DOLLARS FOR
MEDICAID EXPANSION AND THAT
MONEY WOULD BE BORROWED MONEY
FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
SO, A BIT OF AN IRONY IN ALL OF
THIS, THE WHOLE -- I MEAN,
OPPOSED TO THE PRESIDENT'S
HEALTH CARE REFORM LAW, BUT YET
HE IS GOING TO TAKE A MAJOR
COMPONENT OF IT THE MEDICADE
>> ALSO IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER
EXPANSION.
THAT OVER A $62 BILLION BUDGET,
$39 BILLION OF IT IS FEDERAL
PASS THROUGH.
OF WHICH, ONE-THIRD IS ALREADY
BORROWED AND GOES INTO EVERY
SINGLE DEPARTMENT IN THE STATE
THAT I'M AWARE OF RIGHT NOW.
>> SHOULD HE BE SENDING IT BACK?
>> TEA PARTY FOLKS, LOOKED AT IT
AND GOING WHAT, IT'S THAT MUCH?
YEAH.
AND FIVE-SIXTHS OF EVERY DOLLAR
THE STATE GETS GOES TOOK LOCAL
AGENCIES RIGHT NOW?
PEOPLE DON'T KNOW HOW THINGS
WHAT?
>> HE HAS TO RUN FOR RE-ELECTION
WORK.
IN 2014.
WHAT ROLE DOES THIS SPECULATION
PLAY IN THE 2014 CAMPAIGN?
>> CAN ONLY HELP HIM TO BE IN
THE NATIONAL MEDIA.
>> GOT TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO GET
OUT AHEAD OF THIS GOVERNOR'S
RACE BECAUSE, OHIOANS EXPECT
POLITICIANS TO BE AMBITIOUS,
HE'S GOT TO OWN THE GOVERNOR'S
RACE BEFORE HE CAN THINK ABOUT
RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT.
AND IF VOTERS SEE HIM AS RUNNING
FOR PRESIDENT FIRST THEY DON'T
LIKE THAT
>> DEMOCRATS ARE GOING TO
PORTRAY HIM AS RUNNING FOR
PRESIDENT.
>> YEAH, BUT I WANT TO ALSO
EXPLORE SOMETHING ELSE.
THE NEW YORK ARTICLE THAT JOE
MENTIONED ALSO PAINTED HIM IN A
WAY THAT THE WORDS THAT CAME TO
MIND WAS COMPASSIONATE
YOU THAT FROM YEARS AGO.
CONSERVATIVE.
COMING FULL SINGERLE AROUND TO A
TYPE OF REPUBLICAN PERSPECTIVE
THAT AT LEAST, AS OF RIGHT NOW,
WITH THE REPUBLICAN BASE.
IS NOT POPULAR WITH THE BASE,
THAT IS DRIVEN NOT NECESSARILY
BY THE TRUE BASE BUT PERHAPS BY
CONSERVATIVE MEDIA THAT IS
CRAVING THAT PERCEIVED OR
EXPRESSED ANGER.
>> I THINK KNOW WITH KASICH IS
LOOKING TOWARD 2016 IS THAT IF
HE STARTS TO DIAL BACK HIS
REFORMS, BECAUSE IF YOU'RE GOING
TO GO FOR 2016, ALSO START
PLAYING IT SAFE.
SO FAR, I HAVE A SEEN NOTHING IN
THIS ADMINISTRATION THAT EVER
SAYS PLAY IT SAFE ON ANYTHING.
>> THE BIGGEST PART WITH THE
GENERAL ASSEMBLY, THEY ARE JUST
EXHAUSTED TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH
EVERYTHING THEY KEEP THROWING AT
HIM.
SO, LOOKING AT THIS GOVERNOR'S
PAST BEHAVIOR, I WOULD SAY HE
DOES NOT -- HE DOES NOT HAVE A
BAD CASE OF POTOMAC FEVER RIGHT
NOW.
I THINK HE ONLY HAS OHIO RIVER
FEVER.
>> RAN FOR PRESIDENT IN 1999,
ALWAYS IN THE BACK OF HIS MIND.
>> I THINK CLEAR IN THAT CLIP,
HE SAYS THERE IS NO ULTERIOR
MOTIVE, THE SAME TIME, THE TWO
THINGS HE NAMED, THE FEDERAL
DEFICIT AND HEALTH CARE, THOSE
ARE ISSUES HE CAN'T FAULT AS
OHIO'S GOVERNOR.
>> HILLARY CARE.
>> HILLARY CARE.
>> GENE, WILL COMPASSIONATE
CONSERVATIVE WIN REPUBLICAN
NOMINATION IN 2016?
>> I DON'T KNOW.
BECAUSE THERE IS THREE SEPARATE
SEGMENTS OF THE REPUBLICAN
PARTY.
THERE IS THE OLD WHIGS, WHICH IS
NOW THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE
THERE ARE THE MORALISTS
ABOLITIONISTS, NOW THE SOCIAL
CONSERVATIVES AND YOU HAVE WHAT
WAS THE AMERICAN REPUBLICAN
PARTY, WHICH WAS ESSENTIALLY THE
KNOW NOTHING PARTY, WHICH HAS
NOW MORPHED INTO THE TEA PARTY.
THOSE WERE THE THREE MAJOR
COMPONENTS OF THE GOP.
AND USUALLY, THE PRESIDENTIAL
NOMINEE IS A WHIG, BECAUSE THEY
HAVE THE MONEY.
REAGAN WAS NOT A WHIG, REAGAN
BRIDGED ACROSS ALL THOSE.
KASICH IS NOT A WHIG.
BUT IF HE IS GOING TO WIN THE
NOMINATION, THESE BRIDGE ACROSS
ALL THREE OF THOSE DIFFERENT
SEGMENTS.
>> CAN HE RAISE THE MONEY, JOE
HALLETT?
WHAT HURT HIM IN 2000, TRIED BUT
COULDN'T RAISE THE MONEY.
>> YEAH, I MEAN, THE PRESIDENT,
SURE, HE COULD RAISE THE MONEY.
NOW WITH THESE THIRD PARTY
GROUPS OUT THERE, WE SAW THE
BILLIONAIRE CASINO OWNER,
SHELDON ADELMAN, PUBLICLY FUND
>> MEET WITH HIM A YEAR AGO.
NEWT GINGRICH'S CAMPAIGN.
>> ALONG WITH THE KOCH BROTHERS.
SO, THE REPUBLICANS ARE ON THE
VERGE ONCE AGAIN OF NOMINATING A
CANDIDATE WHO CAN'T WIN A
GENERAL ELECTION WHEN THEY START
TALKING ABOUT TED CRUZ AND RAND
PAUL AND THOSE GUYS.
THEY APPEAL TO THE BASE BUT NOT
MUCH BEYOND.
KASICH MIGHT APPEAL BEYOND THAT
AND IF HE COULD GET THROUGH A
PRIMARY, LOOK OUT.
>> I THINK IT GOES BACK TO
WHERE'S THE WHIG MONEY GO TO?
THAT WILL COME OUT OF THE INDIAN
HILL ZIP CODE IS WHERE ALL
THAT'S DECIDED.
>> INDIAN HILL ZIP CODE IS?
>> CINCINNATI.
>> CINCINNATI.
OKAY.
THE CITY OF COLUMBUS HAS BIG
PLANS FOR THE WEST BANK OF THE
RIVER IN THE PENINSULA DOWNTOWN.
THE PLAN CALLS FOR THE
DEMOLITION OF THE VETERANS
MEMORIAL AUDITORIUM, REPLACING
IT WITH A NEW VETERANS MEMORIAL.
HAVE A SWEEPING STRUCTURE WORKS
HAVE A MUSEUM, AN AMPHITHEATER
AND A PARK.
IT WOULD BE QUITE A BIT
DIFFERENT THAN THE CURRENT
VETERANS MEMORIAL.
ALSO BE A MINICOLUMBUS ZOO ON
THE PENINSULA AND THE PLAN CALLS
FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF OFFICE
BUILDINGS AND APARTMENTS AND
RETAIL SPACE JUST WEST OF THE
PENINSULA IN FRANKLINTON.
WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW MUCH
IT WILL COST OR HOW MUCH
TAXPAYERS CONTRIBUTE.
WE DO KNOW THAT ABIGAIL WEXLER
WILL GIVE $25 MILLION FOR THE
NEW MEMORIAL.
EAST SIDE OF THE RIVER THIS IS
JOE MILES?
THE WEST SIDE WHAT DO YOU THINK
OF THIS?
>> WE HEARD THIS WAS COMING UP,
THERE WAS GOING TO BE A FORMAL
ANNOUNCEMENT.
THIS WEEK, THERE WAS A FORMAL
ANNOUNCEMENT PRESENTATION WITH
THE MAYOR, JOHN GLENN, ALL THREE
COMMISSIONERS, PRESENT A PLAN
THAT I'M EXCITED ABOUT.
I THINK IT'S BEAUTIFUL.
IT DOES HAVE ONE END OF THE
PENINSULA, THE NEW TRUE VETERANS
MEMORIAL, NOT AN AUDITORIUM BUT
MEMORIAL WITH THE MUSEUM AND SO
ON.
THE OTHER END, THERE'S GOING TO
BE A ZOO FEATURE, BUT LET'S NOT
FORGET THERE IS A THIRD
COMPONENT HERE AND THAT IS GOING
TO BE A NEIGHBORHOOD OF ABOUT
1200 RESIDENTIAL UNITS WITH
COMMERCIAL SPACE, BECAUSE THESE
ARE FOUR OR FIVE-STORY THINGS.
THINK OF COLUMBUS COMMONS TYPE
OF DEVELOPMENT.
AND I THINK THAT IS GOING TO NOT
ONLY ENERGIZE BUT MAKE THE RIVER
A TWO-BANK RIVER.
>> HOW DO WE PAY FOR THIS?
A PUBLIC/PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP?
>> YOU CAN DO SOME MODIFICATION
BECAUSE OF SID OR SOMETHING LIKE
THAT.
>> WHICH IS?
>> INVENTIVE DISTRICT.
GIANT RULE OF THUMB, STATEMENT,
SAYS THAT EMBRACE THEIR WATER
FEATURE TEND TO DO BETTER AND
TEND TO PROGRESS.
NOW, IF YOU LOOK AT CINCINNATI,
THEY WASTED A LOT OF RIVER BANK
SPACE PUTTING IN THEIR TWO
THE BANKS, BIG DEVELOPMENT
STADIUMS.
UNDER, SHOULD HAVE GONE FOR TWO
INSTEAD, GOING FOR SEVERAL
MILES.
HUNDRED FEET.
THE ONLY THING I NEED TO THINK
ABOUT IS UTILIZING IT IN THE
BEST PURPOSE, ARE THEY GOING TO
TAKE -- LOOK AT A MISTAKE DOWN
IN CINCINNATI AND KIND OF GO
MAYBE YOU MIGHT WANT TO MOVE
SOME OF THIS STUFF JUST OFF THE
RIVER AND LOOK AT WHAT REALLY
BRINGS PEOPLE ALL DOWN TO THE
RIVER BANK.
>> THIS IS A VISIONARY PLAN FOR
THE WEST BANK WHICH HAS LONG
BEEN OVERLOOKED.
BUT ALSO OVERLOOKED IN THIS
WHOLE PROCESS IS WHAT THE
TRUSTEES OF THE CURRENT MEMORIAL
WANT.
THE SAME DAY THIS PLAN WAS
ROLLED OUT, THE VETS SENT TO THE
COUNTY COMMISSION THEIRS OWN
PLAN WHICH JUST SAW THE LIGHT OF
DAY TODAY AND IT CALLS FOR A
CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW HOTEL,
CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW VETERANS
COMPLEX, WHICH WOULD CONTINUE TO
HOLD ENTERTAINMENT VENUES.
AND ALSO VETERANS DISPLAY AREA.
I THINK THEY FEEL, THE TRUSTEES
FEEL, LIKE THEY HAVE KIND OF
BEEN LOST IN THIS WHOLE PROCESS,
BUT MY GUESS IS THAT GIVEN WHO'S
BEHIND THE OTHER PLAN, THAT'S
THE WAY TO GO
>> HAVING JOHN GLENN SHOW UP AT
THIS EVENT, FIRST OF ALL, HE'S
NEIGHBOR, AND HE IS GOING TO
LOOK AT THIS MEMORIAL, BUT YOU
HAVE THE NUMBER ONE IN OHIO,
JACKIE YOU SUPPORTING THIS PLAN,
IT IS GOING TO BE HARD FOR
VETERANS GROUPS NO TO GO ALONG
WITH THAT.
>> I THINK THAT WAS PROBABLY WHY
THEY PUT JOHN GLENN AS THE
VETERANS' FACE ON THIS YOU CAN'T
ARGUE WITH WHAT HE SAID AND HE
SUPPOSEDLY, YOU KNOW, BROUGHT
SOME GROUPS OF VETERANS TOGETHER
TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY WANT AND
THE ARTIST RENDERING I THINK IS
REALLY BEAUTIFUL AND SOMETHING
THAT LOOKS LIKE IT WOULD REALLY
HONOR, YOU KNOW, HON IRALL
VETERANS AND HAVE A SPACE THAT'S
AVAILABLE FOR ACTIVITIES, BUT
ALSO A SPACE INSIDE WHERE PEOPLE
CAN VISIT YEAR ROUND.
I THINK YOU WERE RIGHT THAT IT
REALLY IS THAT THE BEST PLACE
FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT?
>> KEEP IN MIND, I'M
CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN,
THEREFORE, SUPPOSED TO BE
AGAINST ALL POOR PEOPLE, BUT I
WILL TELL THAT YOU GENERAL RIFF
CONCERN.
IF YOU ARE GOING TO BUILD THIS
IF I CAN DISCRIMINATION A
OVER THERE YOU ARE GOING TO
EVENTUALLY, BE SUCCESSFUL, START
PRICING POOR PEOPLE OUT OF THE
HOUSING MARKET.
YOU NEED TO START MAKING PLANS
NOW.
AND PEOPLE ALL AROUND CENTRAL
OHIO NOW FALLING TO THE FLOOR
AND WRITHING AS REPUBLICANS SAY
SOMETHING NICE MAKING SURE POOR
PEOPLE HAVE A PLACE TO LIVE U
NEED TO DO THAT
>> CHALLENGE OF GENTRIFICATION.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE
PERCEIVING MIGHT BE HAPPENING.
I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S
NECESSARILY THE RESULT TWO,
THREE, FOUR BLOCKS FROM THE
WEST -- FROM THE AREA.
I DO THINK THAT THERE'S GOING TO
BE IMPROVEMENT TO THE VALUE, TO
THE REAL ESTATE VALUE OF THE
AREA.
BUT I THINK THE FOLKS WILL STILL
HAVE A PLACE TO LIVE.
>> OKAY.
LAST TOPIC, A NEW SMOKING BAN,
YOU CANNOT SMOKE OR USE ANY
TOBACCO PRODUCT ON CAMPUS, NOT
JUST IN THE BUILDINGS YOU CAN
CAN'T SMOKE ANYWHERE, NOT IN
PARKING LOTS, NOT ON SIDEWALKS,
NOT ON LOADING DOCKS, NOT
WALKING ACROSS THE OVAL.
THE UNIVERSITY HAS NOT STARTED
ENFORCING THIS BAN JUST YET BUT
WHEN IT DOES, VIOLATING STAFF
AND FACULTY CAN FACE
TERMINATION, STUDENTS,
DISCIPLINARY ACTION.
OSU SAYS IT WANTS TO BE THE
HEALTHIEST CAMPUS ON THE GLOBE.
WHEN WE DISCUSSED THIS ON 89.7
THIS WEEK, ALL THE CALL WES GOT
WERE OPPOSING THIS AND THEY ALL
CAME FROM NON-SMOKERS.
>> NOT AT ALL.
DOES THAT SURPRISE YOU?
AND I THINK WHAT WE'RE SEEING
HERE IS KIND OF LIKE WHAT MAYOR
BLOOMBERG IS TRYING TO DO IN NEW
YORK CITY.
THIS IS -- THIS IS THE HIGH
POINT OF THE NANNY STATE.
AND, YES, I AGREE, PEOPLE SHOULD
NOT SMOKE.
AND IT GOES BACK, YOU MENTIONED
BEFORE, ABOUT THE BEAUTIFUL
ARTIST RENDERING FOR THE RIVER
STUFF.
ALL THOSE PEOPLE ARE THIN.
ALL THIN IN THE ARTIST
BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE KNOW.
RENDERINGS, OKAY?
YES, WE NEED TO LOSE WEIGHT.
YES, PEOPLE NEED TO STOP
SMOKING.
BUT I'M LITTLE BIT CAUTIOUS
ABOUT PUTTING UP TOO MUCH OF A
NANNY STATE.
>> BY THE WAY, THE ARTIST
RENDERING WAS A PROJECTION TO
2015 AND 2017.
ALL BE SLIM.
>> ANYTHING TO DO ABOUT THAT.
I LOOKED INTO THIS A LITTLE BIT.
IT LOOKS LIKE ABOUT 770 OF THE
NATION'S 2,700 FOUR-YEAR
INSTITUTIONS HAVE A SIMILAR BAN.
A TOTAL BAN, NO SMOKING INSIDE,
NO SMOKING OUTSIDE.
AND THE STATISTICS REGARDING THE
PERCENTAGE OF THE POPULATION
THAT SMOKING HAS HELD PRETTY
STEADY OVER THE PAST TEN YEARS
OR SO ABOUT 20.8%.
AND I THINK THIS IS AN EFFORT,
WHETHER YOU WANT TO CALL IT A
NANNY STATE OR MAYBE AN EFFORT
TO INFLUENCE THOSE THAT ARE
UNDER YOUR SPHERE OF INFLUENCE
FOR A WHILE.
BUT I THINK IT'S WORTH A TRY.
AND I THINK MORE THAN THAT I
THINK IT'S A DIRECTION THAT
EVERYBODY IS GOING.
>> SAYS, YOU KNOW, A STRONG
STATEMENT THAT THIS IS NOT OUR
CAMPUS.
OUR CAMPUS IS NOT GONNA -- AND
TOLERATE BUT THAT'S NOT WHO WE
ARE.
WE ARE NOT GONNA HAVE THIS --
THE SMOKERS HANGING OUTSIDE THE
DOORS OR, YOU KNOW, HAVE
CIGARETTE BUTTS ALL OVER THE
GROUND.
>> SMOKING THOUGH IS NOW ALMOST
COMPLETELY AN ACTIVITY OF THE
NON-COLLEGE EDUCATED.
>> A LOT OF STAFF PEOPLE ON
CAMPUS WHO STILL SMOKE AND
THINGS LIKE THAT.
I'M AN OSU EMPLOYEE, I DON'T
SMOKE.
I KNOW FOLKS WHO DO AND WHO ARE
AFFECTED AND THEY EXPECT ME, AS
AN OSU, TO BE AN ENFORCER.
THE POLICE WON'T ENFORCE IT, IT
IS NOT A LAW, BUT A HUMAN
RESOURCES ISSUE.
THEY WANT EMPLOYEES TO TAP FOLKS
ON THE SHOULDER AND SAY, YOU'RE
AWARE OF OUR SMOKING BAN?
>> BIG BROTHER.
>> I'M NOT A SMOKER EITHER, BUT
>> I MEAN.
SOMETIMES I DO THINK IT'S
OVERKILL.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THEY BAN
SMOKING IN OHIO STADIUM YEARS
AGO.
MY FEELING IS IF THERE'S AN
OPEN-AIR ENVIRONMENT AND YOU CAN
SEGREGATE SMOKING AREAS, THEN
THAT'S OKAY.
YOU KNOW, SMOKERS DO HAVE
RIGHTS.
AND I KNOW THE REST OF US WHO
ARE NON-SMOKERS HAVE RIGHTS NOT
TO BE EXPOSED TO THEIR SMOKE.
BUT STILL, I THINK YOU CAN FIND
AREAS WHERE PEOPLE -- FOR KIDS
WHO ARE STUDYING UNDER PRESSURE,
WANT TO GO OUT AND HAVE A
CIGARETTE, I MEAN WHY NOT?
>> CAN I RESPOND TO SOMETHING
THAT GENE SAID ABOUT THE -- WHO
IS IT THAT ACTUALLY SMOKES?
THE GROUP THAT IS STOPPING
SMOKING THE FASTEST, BY FAR, ARE
EDUCATED MALES.
>> YES.
>> THIS IS PART OF AN OVERALL
YEAH.
STRATEGY THAT OSU IS DOING, BIG
COMPANIES, BIG INNS INSTITUTION,
TYING HEALTH INSURANCE PREMIUMS
AND COVERAGE TO YOU LIVING A
MORE HEALTHY LIFESTYLE.
THEY WANT YOU TO LOG YOUR
CHOLESTEROL AND BLOOD PRESSURE
AND ALL THAT GOOD STUFF, TO LOSE
WEIGHT.
AND I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE
TRYING TO DO IS TRYING TO LOSER
THEIR INSURANCE COSTS, THE MONEY
AND THE BOTTOM LINE, SOME WAYS.
>> I KIND OF HOPE SO I SUPPOSE.
WE DO NEED TO TAKE PERSONAL
RESPONSIBILITY OVER OUR OWN
HEALTH AND MAYBE EVEN THE HEALTH
OF EACH OTHER.
YOU KNOW, IT'S A PERSPECTIVE.
>> GET TO OUR OFF THE RECORD
FINAL COMMENTS FROM OUR PANEL,
PREDICTIONS, FINAL THOUGHTS FOR
THE WEEKS AHEAD AND WE WILL
START WITH YOU, JOE.
>> CHEERLEADER FOR THE CITY OF
COLUMBUS, DOVE TAILS INTO WHAT
WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE
PENINSULA, RELATED TO THAT
DISCUSSION, I HOPE OUR VIEWERS
IN THE SUBURBS TAKE TIME TO
VISIT DOWNTOWN COLUMBUS AFTER
WORK AND ON THE WEEKENDS SINCE
THE DEVELOPMENT OF COLUMBUS
COMMONS AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF
NEW UPSCALE RESIDENTIAL AREAS ON
THE EAST SIDE OF THE RIVER,
DOWNTOWN COLUMBUS HAS ENJOYED A
RENAISSANCE OF SORTS.
THERE ARE FREE FITNESS CLASSES,
CONCERTS NEAR RESTAURANTS AND
THIS WEEKEND, FOOD TRUCK
>> PLEAT WITH LIVE MUSIC AND
FESTIVAL, COULD.
ACTIVITIES.
>> RECENT ANNOUNCEMENT FORMER
STATE SENATOR, BOB CUP IS
RUNNING FOR THE OHIO HOUSE,
WITHIN THE NEXT DECADE, WE NEED
TO LEARN HOW TO SAY THE PHRASE,
SPEAKER BOB CUP.
JOE?
>> ALL RIGHT.
>> I THINK NEXT YEAR, YOU WILL
SEE FITZGERALD, THE DEMOCRATIC
GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE RUN AS
MUCH AGAINST THE
REPUBLICAN-CONTROLLED
LEGISLATURE AS HE DOES THE
GOVERNOR, GOVERNOR KASICH.
BECAUSE THIS LEGISLATURE SEEN AS
EXTREMELY CONSERVATIVE, FAR MORE
THAN MAINSTREAM OHIO, OBSESSED
WITH GUNS, OBSESSED WITH
ABORTION AND FITZGERALD WILL
MAKE THE POINT, I WILL WIELD THE
VETO PEN.
I'M THE GUY WHO IS GOING TO STOP
THE REPUBLICANS.
>> AND JACKIE?
>> I'M GOING TO LOOK FORWARD
JUST TO MONDAY AND THAT'S WHEN
FORMER DEPUTY TREASURER AHMED IS
GOING TO BE ARRAIGNED IN FEDERAL
COURT FOR CHARGES OF FRAUD AND
FAKING BRIBES AND MY COLLEAGUE,
LAURA BISHOP, WHAT BEEN
FOLLOWING THIS STORE RAY LONG
TIME, YEARS, IF YOU GO BACK TO
AND SHE WILL BE THERE MONDAY AND
BEFORE THE INVESTIGATION STARTED
CHECK IN WITH "DAYTON DAILY
NEWS."COM.
>> I PREDICT FORTH DOWNTOWN
COLUMBUS PROJECT THERE WILL BE A
LEVY ON THE BALLOT BUT THEY WILL
NOT ANNOUNCE THE LEVY FOR THE
DOWNTOWN PROJECT UNTIL AFTER THE
SCHOOL LEVY IS DONE IN NOVEMBER.
DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO PAY TWO
THAT IS "COLUMBUS ON THE RECORD"
SETS OF TAXES.
FOR THIS WEEK.
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HAVE A GOOD WEEK.
WOSU.ORG/COTR.
I'M MIKE THOMPSON.