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I grew up in a little town in Pennsylvania called Clearfield. It was in a little valley
in the Alleghenies, and there were lots of woods and farms. I guess that's how I came
to have such an affinity for animals and nature. It's always been a big part of my life.
But I've always drawn. I've drawn on paper bags and sidewalks and napkins and in the
inside of my mother's books, which I'm sure if she was still alive, she would forgive
me now, but then she was pretty upset about it. But I never wanted to be anything but
an artist. I never could be anything but an artist. I wanted to be a pirate for a while,
but there wasn't much calling for that. So I went back to my art. And just all the way
through grade school, junior high, and high school, I was encouraged by my art teachers
and by my parents. I was encouraged by my parents until it came time to go to art school,
and then they didn't like that idea very much. They didn't like the idea of me going to New
York. They wanted me to go get a liberal arts education and major in art, because they didn't
really think that you could make a living at it. They certainly didn't think a woman
could make a living at it. This was back in the fifties.
But I insisted and said if I didn't go to art school, I wasn't going to go to school.
So, I went to Pratt Institute.
But that was, I think, the bravest thing - or the stupidest thing - I've ever done
in my life, because I had no idea what I was getting into. I really was a very young 18
year-old, but I just jumped in with both feet and struggled for years and years, doing one
thing or another, never really finding out where I belonged until I started doing children's
books...
I teach at Pratt one day a week and I tell my students, "You don't go from your dreams
in a straight line to realizing them." You know, you go all over the place and take a
very circuitous route. And maybe you'll wind up someplace that you didn't even expect to.
Certainly, I didn't really think of children's books, or picture books, when I was searching
out my career. And I think that one of the main reasons was that there weren't that many
picture books then. Picture books didn't really come on the scene in a big way until the late
'70s and the early '80s, which, I guess, had to do with demographics and certainly technology.
They got better at being able to do picture books in color. So, I kind of rode that crest
- and here I am!
I didn't know Doreen when the book was published. I still had not met her. Daniel Pinkwater
and Scott Simon read that book on their Saturday morning show, and it was sold out before it
was even published. I think it was two weeks before pub date. And it went into a third
printing before it even hit the stands. So, it was an instant success and a big surprise,
I think, to everybody.
There is this humor that can be appreciated on an adult level. It's an interesting combination,
and it's not something that you plan. It's just the way it happens. Somebody asked me
once, "Well, do you actually illustrate for adults, so that adults will like your illustrations,
too?"
And I said, "No, I don't. I illustrate for myself." What pleases me is what goes into
the book. And if it appeals to adults, too, that's great. I know it appeals to kids. And
I know that because of the kid in me, because I don't think I ever really grew up, anyway.
I still peer at things the same way children do, and give things a lot more attention than
adults do. And I think that goes into my illustrations, my thinking, and my stories.
I'm not as prolific a writer as I am an illustrator, but when I write my own stories, it happens
the same way. Pictures come into my head, and the pictures dictate the words, rather
than the other way around. And when I'm illustrating a story by another author, of course, the
author's words put the pictures in my head. So, it's all the same process. It just gets
jumbled around a little bit, whether or not you do pictures first or the words first.
When I write, it's actually a combination of the two. I usually do some drawings first
to get my word thoughts going. And then I put the words to it.
Most of the stories that I write come out of experiences that I've had with my husband
Ted - we've traveled all over the world. We usually go to places where there's wildlife,
because that's our main interest. And so What's the Matter, Habibi? is a story about a camel
and a camel driver. That came from my experiences with camels and camel drivers in Morocco and
Egypt. And a book called Chubbo's Pool is about a selfish hippopotamus that won't share
his pool with anybody else, and that was a real hippopotamus that lived in the river
outside a camp we stayed at in Africa, who would not share his pool with any of the other
animals, and he wouldn't share it with us, either. And so that's where my stories usually
come from.
Cat Count and Animal Snackers came out of the blue. Like Doreen says, "click, clack,
moo," were just three words that popped into her head. I am really inarticulate when it
comes to talking about where this ability comes from or where these ideas come from.
I truly believe it is simply the way you're wired. You don't have any choice - it's not
up to you. You just do it, because it's what you do. I think most artists and writers would
agree with me on that.
My husband Ted went to Pratt [Institute], too. He had already graduated when I met him.
It's funny, because my roommate and his roommate were best friends, and my roommate kept telling
me, "You've got to meet my boyfriend's roommate. You've just got to meet him. You guys are
soul mates. You'll love each other. You've got the same sense of humor. You both love
animals." And we just never somehow got together, until the end of my sophomore year. He showed
me a picture of his pet lion cub, and that did it. We realized that we were both interested
in travel, and we wanted to go to Africa to see the great herds before they dwindled.
And we laughed together. We just had so much in common. And I admired him so, because he
draws in a very naturalistic, realistic way, which I don't. I envied that. I really did.
But he also is a Caldecott Honor winner, by the way, for a book called Peppy, the Lamplighter.
So then finally we got married, and we bought a brownstone house in Brooklyn. Ted works
on the top floor. His studio is on the top floor. Mine is on the second floor, and we
work pretty much in silence from seven o'clock in the morning until about one o'clock in
the afternoon - except for going up and down stairs, you know, checking each other's work
out. It goes something like, "Come up and see what I'm doing," and I say, "No, I was
up there last time. You come down here and see what I'm doing." That kind of thing. We
break for lunch, but an illustrator's life is really pretty much a hermit's life. You
sit in your own studio, and you work in silence for however many hours you can stand it.
I can't even listen to music when I'm working. It has to be just completely quiet.
We were bit by the travel bug, and we've been going someplace ever since. We've been to
different parts of Africa nine times. We've been to India four times. I want to go back
there. I'd love to go to Pushkar to see the camel races. There are wonderful wildlife
refuges there that we would love to go back to visit.
And Mongolia - the thing that's drawing us there is this annual festival called the Nadam
Festival. They celebrate their three most ancient sports: wrestling, archery and horseracing.
They're raced by five-year-olds up to 13-year-olds. So, we're sure there's a picture book there.
That's what we're hoping to do, another collaboration like Gorilla Walk.