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>>> TRYING TO LOOK
>> HE'S ONE OF THE BIGGESTS
IN THE WORLD.
ONE OF THE MOST
IN THE WORLD.
ACCLAIMED ACTORS
OF OUR TIME.
TONIGHT, JOHNNY DEPP.
THE MAN WHO RARELY GRANTS
INTERVIEWS SITS DOWN WITH ME AND
OPENS UP ABOUT HIS FAME.
>> THIS IS THE CARD I DREW, SO
I'LL DEAL WITH IT, THAT'S FINE.
DOESN'T MEAN EVERY SINGLE MOMENT
YOU HAVE TO BE SORT OF OKAY WITH
THAT.
>> HIS FAMILY.
>> I DON'T WANT MY KIDS TO
EXPERIENCE ME AS A NOVELTY.
I WANT MY KIDS TO KNOW ME AS
DAD.
>> AND HIS FAMOUS FRIENDS.
BRANDO HAD A BIG EFFECT ON YOU.
>> HE WAS A WONDERFUL MAN.
HE'D GIVE YOU ANYTHING.
>> PLUS A TOUR OF HIS PRIVATE
OFFICE FILLED WITH PERSONAL
MEMORABILIA AND HIS PAINTINGS.
IT'S ALL AHEAD ON THIS LARRY
KING SPECIAL, "JOHNNY DEPP."
WE'RE SITTING HERE IN JOHNNY
DEPP'S OFFICE.
AN OFFICE LIKE NONE I HAVE EVER
SEEN.
WE'LL GET A CHANCE TO EXPLORE IT
A LITTLE.
HE, OF COURSE, ONE OF THE MOST
CELEBRATED AND VERSATILE ACTORS
OF HIS GENERATION.
HE'S ALSO DIRECTOR, PRODUCER,
ACCOMPLISHED MUSICIAN.
HIS NEW MOVIE "RUM DIARY" WILL
OPEN OCTOBER 28th.
THE ONLY NOVEL EVER WRITTEN BY
HUNTER S. THOMPSON.
WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE
LATER.
YOU DON'T DO MANY THINGS LIKE
THIS.
DO YOU NOT LIKE TO BE
INTERVIEWED OR?
>> NO.
I'M JUST NOT VERY GOOD AT IT,
YOU KNOW.
NEVER HAVE BEEN VERY GOOD AT IT.
>> WHY NOT?
>> I DON'T KNOW.
THERE'S A -- YOU KNOW, THERE'S A
STRANGE THING, YOU KNOW.
I'M OKAY WHEN I'M A CHARACTER.
IF I'M PLAYING A CHARACTER, I
CAN DO, YOU KNOW, VIRTUALLY
ANYTHING IN FRONT OF A CAMERA.
BUT IF I'M JUST ME, I FEEL, YOU
KNOW, EXPOSED AND SORT OF, YOU
KNOW, IT FEELS AWKWARD.
>> WE WON'T EXPOSE YOU.
>> OKAY.
GOOD.
>> DO YOU LIKE BEING OTHER
PEOPLE?
>> YEAH, I DO.
I DO BECAUSE I'M FASCINATED WITH
PEOPLE.
I MEAN, I'M FASCINATED -- I LIKE
TO WATCH PEOPLE.
AND THAT'S THE ONE SORT OF
THING, YOU KNOW, AS AN ACTOR IN
TERMS OF JOB NECESSITY IS THE
ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO WATCH
PEOPLE, TO OBSERVE, TO BE THE
OBSERVER.
AS A JOURNALIST, YOU KNOW, TO
OBSERVE.
AND IT'S ONE OF MY FAVORITE
THINGS, TO SORT OF PICK APART,
YOU KNOW, VARIOUS TRAITS.
>> MARLEN BRANDO TOLD ME ONE OF
THE PROBLEMS WHEN YOU GET VERY
WELL KNOWN IS THEY'RE OBSERVING
YOU.
SO YOU'RE NOT OBSERVING THEM
REALLY.
>> EXACTLY.
THAT BECOMES THE PROBLEM.
YOU BECOME THE FOCUS OF OTHERS.
SO, THEREFORE, YOUR -- YOUR
ABILITY TO OBSERVE IS TAINTED.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT -- YEAH.
IT CHANGES QUITE RADICALLY.
>> HOW DID YOU GO FROM GUITAR TO
ACTING?
>> ACCIDENT.
>> HOW DID IT -- HOW --
>> I'D MOVED TO LOS ANGELES IN
1983 AND WAS LIVING HERE
PLAYING -- YOU KNOW, PLAYING
MUSIC.
WE DID A COUPLE OF GOOD GIGS.
YOU KNOW, THE BAND AND STUFF.
WE WENT ON THE ROAD FOR A LITTLE
BIT.
THAT WAS ALL FINE.
BUT, I MEAN, IN TERMS OF MAKING
A LIVING, IT WAS PRETTY
STRAIGHT -- PRETTY CLOSE TO THE
BONE THERE.
SO I WAS FILLING OUT JOB
APPLICATIONS FOR VARIOUS VIDEO
STORES OR ANYWHERE, YOU KNOW.
I HAPPENED TO BE WITH AN OLD
BUDDY OF MINE, NICOLAS CAGE.
WHO WAS -- WHO WAS THEN COMING
UP THE RANKS.
HE SAID, YOU KNOW, WHY DON'T YOU
JUST -- I THINK YOU SHOULD MEET
MY AGENT.
YOU SHOULD INVESTIGATE ACTING.
>> YOU HADN'T THOUGHT OF IT?
>> NO, NOT REALLY, NO.
SO I MET HIS AGENT.
SHE SENT ME TO READ FOR A PART.
AND GOT A CALL BACK AND THEN
THEY HIRED ME FOR THE GIG.
THAT WAS THE FIRST "NIGHTMARE ON
ELM STREET."
THAT WAS 1984, THREE OR FOUR.
>> DID YOU LIKE IT RIGHT AWAY?
>> NO.
>> IT WAS A JOB?
>> IT WAS JUST A GIG.
I JUST THOUGHT, WELL, THIS WILL
GET ME THROUGH UNTIL, YOU KNOW,
THE MUSIC PICKS UP OR WHATEVER.
SO I JUST -- YOU KNOW, THE FIRST
TWO OR THREE, FOUR FILMS TO ME
WERE JUST, YOU KNOW, A LARK.
YOU KNOW, JUST --
>> WOULD YOU RATHER HAVE BEEN A
MUSICIAN?
>> IN RETROSPECT, NO, YOU KNOW.
IN RETROSPECT, NO.
BECAUSE IT'S -- I SUPPOSE HAD
THAT BECOME MY BREAD AND BUTTER,
AS THEY SAY, THE MAIN GIG, I
WOULD HAVE PROBABLY FALLEN OUT
OF LOVE WITH IT ON SOME LEVEL.
AND I STILL TO THIS DAY, YOU
KNOW, HAVE THE -- THE SAME LOVE,
YOU KNOW, FIRST LOVE FEELING FOR
MUSIC AS I DID WHEN I WAS 12.
>> DO YOU PLAY?
>> ALL THE TIME, YEAH.
CONSTANTLY.
STILL, YEAH.
>> HOW DID YOU REACT TO GETTING
FAMOUS?
>> I'M STILL REACTING, YOU KNOW.
I'M STILL SORT OF DEALING WITH
IT.
I DON'T THINK IT'S ANYTHING YOU
EVER GET USED TO, YOU KNOW.
I COULD NEVER -- FOR MANY YEARS
I COULD NEVER SORT OF PUT MY
NAME IN THE SAME SORT OF
CATEGORY AS THE WORD "FAMOUS" OR
ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
I JUST FOUND IT VERY
UNCOMFORTABLE.
SO IT'S WEIRD.
IT'S SOMETHING LIKE IF YOU -- I
FIND IF YOU GET USED TO IT, THEN
SOMETHING MUST BE WRONG, YOU
KNOW.
IF YOU GET USED TO THAT CONSTANT
KIND OF THING, IT'S --
SOMETHING'S GOT TO BE WRONG.
THERE'S GOT TO BE STILL A PART
OF YOU THAT -- SOMEWHERE IN
THERE THAT PINES FOR ANONYMITY.
>> ALLEN ALDA TOLD ME ONE TIME
HE DOESN'T LIKE GIVING
AUTOGRAPHS BECAUSE HE FEELS IT
DEMEANS THE PERSON ACTING FOR
THE AUTOGRAPH.
IT PUT THEM ON A LOWER LEVEL.
BRANDO DIDN'T LIKE MUCH BEING
PHOTOGRAPHED.
IS IT TRUE YOU DON'T LIKE BEING
PHOTOGRAPHED?
>> I SUPPOSE, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE
WHEN YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING
ORGANIZED LIKE A PHOTO SHOOT,
ESSENTIALLY AMID THE FAUX PAS,
THERE WAS A PIECE IN "VANITY
FAIR" WHERE I SHOULD HAVE USED
THE WORD "VIOLATED."
HOWEVER, IN MY LACK OF
VOCABULARY IN THE MOMENT I USED
ANOTHER WORD WHICH I'VE, YOU
KNOW, APOLOGIZED FOR RADICALLY.
BUT THE THING -- THE THING WITH
DOING A PHOTO SHOOT, THAT'S SORT
OF AN ORGANIZED THING.
YOU FEEL DUMB.
OKAY.
BUT YOU JUST GET THROUGH IT.
BUT WHAT I FIND STILL TO THIS
DAY, KIND OF, LIKE AN ATTACK ON
THE SENSES, IS REALLY JUST BEING
BOMBARED BY PAPARAZZIS.
I'LL TAKE PHOTOGRAPHS WITH KIDS.
PEOPLE WHO WANT TO TAKE
PHOTOGRAPHS WITH ME.
PEOPLE WHO LIKE THE MOVIES.
PEOPLE WHO SUPPORTED ME.
I'LL DO THAT ALL DAY, ALL NIGHT,
THAT'S FINE.
BUT THE BOMBARDMENT, YOU KNOW,
OF THE PAPARAZZI IS JUST -- IT'S
LIKE A -- IT'S JUST --
>> WHAT DO THEY GET OUT OF IT?
I MEAN, THEY TAKE YOUR PICTURE.
>> YEAH.
>> THEN THEY TAKE IT A MINUTE
LATER.
IT'S NOT ANY DIFFERENT THAN A
MINUTE BEFORE.
>> AND IT'S NOT ANY DIFFERENT
THAN THE YEAR BEFORE, OR THE
YEAR BEFORE THAT.
>> WHAT IS THE -- WHAT DO YOU
THINK IT IS?
>> I TRULY DON'T UNDERSTAND.
I THINK IT MUST BE JUST THIS
KIND OF -- I DON'T KNOW.
IT JUST FEELS LIKE THIS KIND OF
GLUTTONOUS, HORRIFIC SPORT.
IT'S LIKE SPORT.
IT'S LIKE HUNTING OR SOMETHING.
>> DO YOU THEREFORE GO OUT OF
YOUR WAY TO TRY TO AVOID THEM?
>> YEAH.
I TRY TO AVOID ANY AND ALL, YOU
KNOW, PRESS OR -- ESPECIALLY
THAT NATURE.
YOU KNOW, JUST TO -- YEAH.
>> SO DO YOU --
>> I DON'T WANT MY KIDS TO
EXPERIENCE ME AS A NOVELTY.
I WANT MY KIDS TO KNOW ME AS
DAD, YOU KNOW.
ALREADY, YOU KNOW, IF THEY HAVE
ACCESS TO THE INTERNET OR
WHATEVER, THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT
THE DEAL IS.
BUT I DON'T WANT THEM TO HAVE TO
LIVE THROUGH AND EXPERIENCE THAT
KIND OF ATTACK, YOU KNOW.
>> SO WHAT DO YOU DO WHEN YOU GO
OUT TO EAT?
>> I DON'T GO OUT VERY MUCH, YOU
KNOW.
I STAY AT HOME A LOT.
OR WHEN YOU GO OUT TO EAT, YOU
KNOW, YOU'VE GOT TO -- IT
BECOMES A STRATEGIC SORT OF
PLAN.
WE'RE GOING IN THE BACK.
WE'RE GOING TO WALK THROUGH THE
SLIPPERY KITCHEN AND WE'RE GOING
TO GO INTO THE PRIVATE ROOM OR,
YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF THING.
>> IT'S A TOUGH WAY TO LIVE.
>> IT'S -- YOU KNOW, I SUPPOSE
IT'S WHAT I -- IT'S THE CARD I
DREW.
SO I'LL DEAL WITH IT.
THAT'S FINE.
IT DOESN'T MEAN EVERY SINGLE
MOMENT YOU HAVE TO BE SORT OF
OKAY WITH IT.
I CERTAINLY AM NOT ONE OF THOSE
GUYS AND WOULD, YOU KNOW, CAN'T
STAND THE IDEA OF, YOU KNOW, ONE
OF THOSE GUYS WHO WHINES ABOUT,
YOU KNOW, HOW HORRIBLE SUCCESS
IS.
I DO REALIZE AND UNDERSTAND VERY
WELL ON A PROFOUND LEVEL HOW
LUCKY I AM AND WHAT A PRIVILEGED
POSITION IT IS AND WHAT IT'S
DONE ULTIMATELY FOR ME, MY
FAMILY AND MY KIDS.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW,
THERE ARE MOMENTS IN A MAN'S
LIFE WHEN YOU JUST KIND OF WANT
TO FEEL SOMEWHAT NORMAL, YOU
KNOW.
>>> HE'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST
STARS IN THE WORLD.
BUT IT WASN'T ALWAYS THAT WAY.
>> I HAD BEEN ESSENTIALLY KNOWN
WITHIN THE CONFINES OF HOLLYWOOD
AS THE -- YOU KNOW, AS BOX
OFFICE POISON.
BASICALLY I'D BUILT A CAREER ON
20 YEARS OF FAILURES.
>>> PLUS, LATER, JOHNNY SHOWS ME
THE INSIDE OF HIS PRIVATE
OFFICE.
IT'S AN UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL