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i'm joined by matthew filipovic most of the matthew filipovic show the
boston-based progressive
uh... program matthew great to talk to you know we had scheduled this interview
uh... couple weeks ago before we knew anything about the boston marathon
bombing and it just so happens that we have you here you were also in brooklyn
on nine eleven so i think there's a lot of interesting things we could discuss
here
first of all how did you first hear of the bombing where were you that type of
thing just to get that kind of out of the way
sure all while they're in indiana boston neighborhood of brighton uh... which is
kind of the the part of the western out liar of boston bosons actually pretty
small
city people bebop austin section of the day but geographically bosons actually
really small town uh... and so actually the the marathon
actually starts way alex in the western suburbs unit twenty six miles out and
then goes all the way and finishes in downtown boston it passes
about like four blocks away from where me and my wife lived and actually that
morning we went down and actually you watch the front-runners go buy it if you
get it's like four blocks away it's fun you know a bunch of people come out and
you know chair along all around along the road the rap is actually we're not
that far off from uh... we're on the other end up heartbreak hill that they
miss hill the people but the hardest part of the marathon review for going up
this insane incline and so we went down all you know around the eleven or so and
watch the front-runners go past where we were and then you know the front-runners
pass and i went back to uh... went back to our apartment and i'm from working on
um... my chauffeured for today
and all the sudden i actually saw
literally you liked like
thirty police motorcycles zooming past my front window
sirens blaring and you know parted there was so many of them in it was so
sustained
actually thought that something must have been wrong and so bob enough right
then and there on twitter uh... i saw it that the fact that there was there was a
lease one explosion and then you know
like everyone else we started seeing all the different reports are coming in some
accurate some not accurate
uh... just the the the horror that happens
uh... down on on on the finish line of the boston marathon
so now we're hearing this morning from develop after confirm the police
commissioner and davis and others about
had this the slight contraction of the crime scene area from something like
sixteen blocks the twelve but that really all over boston is going to be
increase a cure you expect to have
maybe somebody on the uh... an bt eight police asked to look through your bad
all the said two things
some curious
you were in brooklyn right after nine eleven
what what do you worry about in terms of this rush to be more secure is it is it
just a good thing we should do absolutely everything we can or were you
concerned about it
i'm very concerned about it on my actually was living in denver a clinic
and what he said oh nine eleven
i could actually see
that went hours from the end of my block amah nine eleven actually had a
they are in the backyard of the apartment that is staying in actual
still have this was a piece of paper just a random a piece of some some
office building up on the twenty hours the singed
uh... you know financial forum that ended up landing in my backyard but when
i mostly remember
after nine eleven
uh... you know obviously and some are the but we're feeling here in boston now
is is that fear that sort of justice that nervousness and fear
uh... but mostly i i uh... that that
thing that bothers me the most in when you talk about how the fact that they're
going to be you know doing searching more switching of bags here in boston
you know i remember it after nine eleven in new york
you know of seeing me
regain military's soldiers with m_-sixteen machine guns on the street
corners i remember seeing
uh... f_-sixteen fighter jets literally zooming overhead and i like your living
in in a war zone
well my remember you know obviously all remember that the stuff that came after
that which was the uh... the patriot act a being lied into a war
uh... and in a very much to worried about that happening here
uh... it's not that people shouldn't be you know stressed out and and and shaken
by what happened of course we're going to be shaken this is a very serious
thing to happen on nine eleven and one happens
now
we have to be very very big solent about
there are a lot of the fact that there are a lot of not so good people who are
very very good at exploiting that fear they'll exploit that fear for four power
adele exploit that fear
for money do you have not only the military industrial complex you have the
security industrial complex which exploded uh... after nine eleven
i do very much for that that's going to happen here and if you look at the fact
that that they're talking about checking bags uh... you know i and someone who
thinks that that's
that doesn't is a really going to help anything i mean it's not like
you can check every what we're going to check every single solitary bag as
you're walking down the street you're gonna create checkpoints i'd personally
i'd say that's
you know if you want to create a check for your disconnect create another
bottle neck which would also be another target
four a terror attack
i think the reality is
east these attacks don't happen very often and i a m
not there when they do happen they're not tragic in horrible and we need to
empathize with with all the people who are victims of this
but the the odds you know what we're looking you know most of people
listening with the united states of america
we are very very lucky that we live in a country that for the most part we are
are safe from terror attacks yellow earlier at earlier and saying that
statistically speaking
these incidents are very rare and even when you look at the incident and i
don't mean to minimize it in any way but we have
three people at this point who have died
and closing in on two hundred who have been injured
statistically speaking you are not going to encounter one of these incidents
knock on wood based on today's status quo
if you're just going about your business are going to america on but that being
said
i think the line between
security for the sake of of either actual security or even just making
people feel safe which i think also has value and then crossing that into
exploiting the event to do things which at the top of the list would be
using nine eleven to go into a rack which had nothing to do with it
the line between those that there's a large gray area
and you don't always know right away when you hear of a policy which of those
ambrose at that time
absolutely after you know opted you know there's there obviously things that
people could do to be smarter
about
about uh... security but i i you know i'm some of the things we cross that
line a long long time ago and uh... you know after nine eleven
if you look it's the uh... the the warrantless spying that's going on if
you look at it this is it just things that happened under bush
you know if you look at uh... deal but i mean i think that all of this stuff can
be traceback
to just that idea of of exploiting fear if you look at uh... below bombers
assassination of american citizens if you look at the drone war if you look at
all that stuff
all of that is actually
uh... you can draw direct lines to birds into the fear that we all felt a nine
eleven and then that and then people again exploiting that beer
room to their own and bid again some of it might be so you know i'm not gonna
though some of the motives are are
clearly that some of the motives of those profits some of the motives
are uh... you know some of the modus maybe find that they may be some people
may be thinking they're doing the right thing
but and someone who definitely thinks we're we are waiting past that line
and i'd want to literally what could we have possibly done
uh... to stop what happened in boston we've been speaking with matthew
filipovic host of the matthew filipovic show what's the best way for audience to
find you
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alright matthew f dot net great to talk to you matthew and will definitely talk
to you again soon
esli thanks david