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Erik: What are the consistent elements in models that you build across education, business,
community and society?
Bijoy: I think there’s a couple of things. The first is - there’s a what and the how.
I guess maybe those are the two – maybe break that up into those two things. The what
ends up having three core components that funnily enough translate back to Maven, Relater
and Evangelist, what ever system you’re looking at whether it’s a person or individual
organization –society it has to wrestle with this energy. If you look at America as
a country you’ve got the judiciary, maven, the legislative, relater and executive, evangelist,
okay? Now as country we’re evangelist-maven, we tend to dominate on that side so our skew
as an entity, the whole of the United States is evangelist-maven, but yet we have to have
these three parts to work, for the whole thing to work. In fact we didn’t get the judiciary
until 1804 after the constitution was already built in 1789. The first version of America
was the Articles of Confederation, that didn’t last longer than ten years and it was all
falling apart. In the history books it sound like, ‘Well we moved from the articles then
we moved to the constitution and then..’ No. [laughs] They were trying to boot strap
this thing, they were trying to get it together and it wasn’t working. So then Madison was
really the key guy that figured this out and said ‘Hey we gotta change the design up
and try a new design’. But even then he was really the architect of the judiciary
and the legislative, so you have those two components and it was only years later when
Madison himself was coming into power and he wanted to fire a guy named Marbury , who
had been appointed by Jefferson I think it was, Marbury said ‘Hey, you can’t fire
me. I was appointed’ so well it goes to the court. The judge not only said ‘Yeah
Madison, you can’t fire Marbury’ but he said ‘We the judiciary decide what is constitutional’.
That had never happened and everybody just went ‘Sweet!’ right, ‘Okay’. So you
look at this third piece and this third piece of the triangle, the maven piece had to click
into place, now you have a real structure, these three interlocking parts that are in
this relationship with each other, this dance. So that structure has to eventually emerge
from all organizations, that tri-part structure, how it happens is the cycle of iteration…
of trying something, testing it, seeing whether it works and persisting it and then over and
over and over and over again.