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I want to ask that it is said that if we have bad feelings for the Imam
then we should not pray behind him.
But if we have no other Masjid near, then what to do?
If Imam has such evil... and flaw as per the "Shariya"
Ignoring your personal dislike which is common.
If Actual Religious fault exist then he should retire himself.
and if he does not, then "Jamat" should dismiss him.
"Imaamat" is the leadership of muslims and such a person..??
But untill people do not dismiss him.
no matter how angry you are with him or hate him, you can't leave the Prayer.
Your Prayer is absolutely fine and you will get full reward.
During the Khilafat of "Banu Umayya" and later there were such cruel leaders
who lead prayer while drunk but "Sahaba" did not leave praying
and solve the problem for us
that he (the cruel Imam) himself will be prosecuted in hereafter.
If he is leading the prayer and you cannot fire him then you just pray.
Prayer should not be seperate Nor the "Jamat" be missed.
"Jamat" have of utmost importance.
Neither will we see the sect nor the creed, nor the actions of "Imam"
He should amend himself
For the followers Rasulullah (SAAW) said
"After me there will be people who will offer prayer out of time"
and it happened in a period that people went for "Jumma" prayer
and even the time for "Asar" prayer was going to finish.
such a long sermon had been delivered by the cruel leaders.
then "Sahaba" and "Tabaee" could not pray standing.
so they used to pray while sitting with signals.
Even could not raise hands so that no one get to know, or they were murdered.
such a helplessness was at that time which now has grown beyond the limits.
So.. prayed while sitting!!
But Rasulullah (SAAW) said even if there are such leaders
then people asked what should we do when they pray out of time?
He (SAAW) said that you pray your prayers at home in time
and when they arrange "Jamat" then also pray with them.
one will be "Nafal" (and other Farz)
I don't want hassle and divergence in the "Ummah"
Although they would be faithless, keep the "Jamat" established.
offered in time will be your "Fard" and pray again.
Such "Imams" were also mentioned (by prphet(PBUH)) who will cut the prayer short.
"Sahaba" asked Ya Rasulullah (SAAW)! what would be the benifit of praying after them?
He(PBUH) said no! you will get full rewarard.
They will be responsible for the injustice they'll do.
Unity and concord is so much important in Islam
that even the thought of it should be perished.
If some "Saint" claims to have a revelation which causes divergence in muslims (should be condemned)
"Hay Zinda faQat Wahdate-e-Afkaar se millat Wahdat ho Fana jis se wo ilhaam bi ilhaad"
(Nation is Alive because of unity in thought Even the revelation of diversity is atheism)
curse be on such a person who says that everyone else is "Kafir"
Any "Imam" or preacher who says "those are nonmuslim" "these are nonmuslims"
he is the agent of Devil.
He can not show a single word in "Deen"
Rasulullah (SAAW) did many predictions... open those books.
This, after ward you "Mullas" have written that no prayer after different group.
Did the Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said any where?
Whether they would be astry, He(PBUH) said pray with them
Prayer is a relationship when muslims join together
if this is eliminated, when the muslims will be gathered?
Last Question:
There are different opinions about whether the graves
should be solid or not.
second question is whether it is mentioned
about "Auliya" (Allah’s friends) in religious scriptures?
Second question first.
Auliya Allah is Quran's terminology means Friends of God.
But the prevailing concept about this, in our minds, is
that this is a special class of people.
there is a group who is credited as "Wali" at some stage...
This concept is aginst the teachings of Islam
Every person who Testify the "Shahada", irrespective of his practice
He turns out of enemies of Allah and become one of the friends.
But this is common friendship like i have some limited friends
but some are of very deep relationship.
Improvement in "Imaan" and "taqwa" of any individual makes his "wilayet"(friendship) of higher level
Frienship stands. for every "mo'min"
If you say any muslim that he is enemy of Allah
This is a big abuse for him just like calling him "Kafir"
He is not enemy, He testify the "Shahada" now he is among friends
Now he is poor friend may become better with time
I want to give reference of a "Hadith" here
Because we have make this a bad routine that
Quite good people, giving "Azaans" in mosques and praying
And we call them "kafir"
Just because their thinking is different than us???
A "Sahabi" many times brought to the Messenger of Allah (PBUH)
Because of drinking
Because of habit... Otherwise not a bad person
Bad habit becomes addiction in bad company
many times he was penalized.
once a "Sahabi" imprecate him
That may Allah curse him! how many times he is punished but he is not abstaining
Rasulullah (SAAW) said: do not help the Satan by imprecation
he loves Allah and His messenger(PBUH)
Rasulullah (SAAW) certify
That although he has bad habit still he loves Allah and His messenger
He could have drunk while being nonmuslim...
Why you call Muslims as "Kafir"
so you would be surprised, Drinker... Addict...
But what we do.., quite good people who give "azaan", offer prayer say "Shahada"
And we do not consider them Muslims
Should they read Grunt (Hindu's anthem) instead of "Shahada"???
Then you will be satisfied..?
There words of "Shahda" is same.. same is the voice from every mosque
Why you give your religious opinion that they are nonmuslims
That’s why Rasulullah give extreme warning on
Blaming someone as "Kafir"
That who so ever blame a muslim as "kafir"
He himself become one.
In your opinion only Islam is "Kufr"?
He has announced Islam and you are not considering him as muslim?
This is my very hue and cry.. my message
Written books on it
Daily i say on my program that all are my brothers
Brailvi, Deobandi, ***'a, Sunni
Out of them, no traces of "Kufr" found
These are self-created thoughts of people
They do not study one another's opinion
Invent wrong cocept from themselves that
"They do blasphemy"
"They do Shirk"
"They abuse Sahaba"
Go and study the original books
Leave the fonder of debate
Read original books you will find that this is a tree and have many branches
Verily crazy in love of Rasulullah (SAAW)
Many of the pray more than one another pray at night…
Who is "Kafir” out of them?
You do not study... and if study then only books of debate?
Which are written against each other…
In which there is misinterpretation Keep only those books?
That every group abjures and curse on misinterpreted meaning
Once someone asked me on my program that what about people who say
Respect of Rasulullah is just like elder brother
I said "Kid! I have spent my whole life, i could not find any such person"
"if you find someone who claim this, bring him to me
That who is such a person who claim this"?
Misinterpret statements and taking out of context...
Now i do not have time to explain
Keep in your mind that if an illiterate muslim Abjures listening a statement
Can that be written by an Islamic Scholor?
This is basic rule Scholor can not write it
Neither "Ahmed Raza khan" can write like this
False allegation are written in "Barelviat" (the book written aginst Barelvis)
And what they say in "Wahabiya"
(a book written aginst Ahle Hadith)
They also charge lie.
Actual books, if you read, would make you surprise and
Curse the liars that, what was actually said and how they misinterpret
So any Muslim is neither immodest nor is any one "Mushrik"
If by mistake he is doing something in love
then you should guide him
That if he, in love, respect exceeds the limit, a little
Should not say "shirk" he will be fighting with you
That you are blaming me as "mushrik"?
So if there is lack of knowledge it can be said as ignorant
Why call them "Kafir" or "Mushrik"
If in today’s lecture you only do consensus on this
That do not say "Kafir" to one who say "shahada"
whichever mosque you go dont read infront that
what is written.."Sunni" Barelvi" "shia" "wahabi" "deobandi"
Leave all that. All mosques are yours
They recite Quran. Face toward "Ka'ba"
You stand after Quran, He himself is responsible for his faith
what you asked about grave?
yes.. Solid Grave...
Its rightte, Rasulullah (SAAW) said that
Making building on Graves and painting them is forbidden
And most deviations are also due to the solid graves
If these were simple graves, even of Saints
Why would it happen that there are Singing and fairs?
And there are many shrines the the spirits of "Auliya" are also annoyed
Sex, drinking, intoxication...
So this is why the messenger prohibit this..
And also it is loss of money
That you spend millons on one grave
Wash them with distilled liquids
What favor to that pious Saint? who would be in "Jannah"
Why he needs these fragrance?
Many poor could be taken care of girls could be married
And you are spending on these "Fasiq"!!
So it is against Islam
Forbidden... do not paint nor build on graves.
I have gone through a book named "TAQVIYA TUL IMAN"
It is written in that, i can read fronm that ...
I got it... you please come...
no no please let me say..
No I have already understood...
No use here..
You come to my place, we will open this book i will tell you what its context explains
i want to say..
no! no use of debate at this platform
This gathering is not for debate and fight
You want "TAQVIYA TUL IMAN"... is it hidden from me?
You bring that i will sit and make you read with context..
If this would be the meaning... remove my head.
Yes.. if you intends to understand then you are welcome we will sit
Some "Ahle Hadith" says that Allama writes in "Al Barelviya"...
There too, i showed them the actual opinions of "Molana Ahmed Raza khan"
What he has written.. And you
I am advocate for none i am fed up of these "Mullas"
They made their business in this way.
That, misinterpret other's statement and defame them
"TAQVIYA TUL IMAN" is not hidden from me, bring it..
I will make you read
But first you have to do penitence that do not change meaning
If it got the meaning that the respect is of same as elder brother?
I want to ask something else...
No do not debate here.
Should read with context
I will welcome with open-heart
This was a wonderful session
And there were many open questions
"Masha Allah" i feel happy
Sessions should be in the same way
All are my brothers..
Pray..(Alhamd-o-lillah)