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TELEVISION NETWORK IN
CLEARWATER, FLORIDA.
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>> HI THERE, AND
WELCOME AND WELCOME,
AND WELCOME TO
HOMEKEEPERS AND GRAB
SOME TEA, AND SIT
DOWN WITH ME, AND YOU
CAN ENJOY THE NEXT
FEW MINUTES, AND I
THINK I CAN GUARANTEE
THAT YOU WILL ENJOY
THE TIME AND WE ARE
CALLED,
"HOMEKEEPERS." AND
WELCOME, AND MAYBE
YOU WERE JUST IN YOU
ARE SURFING WITH YOUR
REMOTE AND YOU HAVE
LANDED HERE AND YOU
CAN STAY WITH US.
YOU ARE GOING TO
ENJOY THE PROGRAM AND
I KNOW THAT WE HAVE
GOT MANY REGULAR
VIEWERS, AND YOU ARE
LOVED, SO MUCH.
THANK YOU FOR
EVERYTHING YOU DO FOR
THE PROGRAM. MY
GUEST, AND SHE WRITES
FICTION, AND THOSE
TYPES OF PEOPLE
IMPRESS ME SO MUCH.
AND YOU MUST HAVE,
AND YOU MUST HAVE A
SPECIAL IMAGINATION
TO TAKE A CHARACTER
AND I'M SURE THEY
BECOME ACQUAINTED
WITH THEIR
CHARACTERS. AND
TODAY MY GUEST, AND
SHE WRITES FICTION
AND NONFICTION, AND
SHE IS SUZANNE
FISHER, AND THIS IS
HER BOOK AND THIS IS
CALLED, "THE
CALLING." AND THIS
IS ABOUT AN AMISH
GIRL. AND I BELIEVE
THIS IS A SERIES AND
I WILL ASK HER FOR
SURE, AND WE WANT TO
TALK ABOUT IT AND
ALSO, THIS LADY IS
VERY WELL ACQUAINTED
WITH THE AMISH
PEOPLE. AND ALSO
THEIR HISTORY, AND
THEIR BELIEF SYSTEM
AND THEIR ENTIRE
CULTURE, I FIND THAT
SO FASCINATING. I
THINK I MENTIONED,
AND I SPOKE FOR A
SINGLES RETREAT AND
THIS WAS A CHURCH
CAMPGROUND IN OHIO,
AND THIS WAS IN THE
AMISH COMMUNITY. AND
I GOT A CLOSE UP LOOK
AT THEN, AND THEY
WERE FARMING, AND
THEY DID NOT HAVE ANY
GASOLINE, AND NO
TELEPHONES, AND THEY
HAD NO ELECTRICITY,
AND THAT IS SO
FASCINATING. AND
THEY HAVE GOT A
STRONG SPIRITUAL
CULTURE, AND THIS
WILL BE GOOD AND
EDUCATIONAL AND YOU
CAN MEET SUZANNE
FISHER AND WERE GOING
TO BE MAKING, AND
WERE GOING TO BE
CHEATING A LITTLE
TODAY, AND THIS IS
TASTING LIKE A
DELICIOUS PIE AND THIS IS
EASIER AND THIS IS
LIKE SOME BARS, AND
WE CAN SHOW YOU TO
DO THIS, AND WE HAD
A PROGRAM AND IT WAS
A BOOK ABOUT TITHING,
AND A LIVING
TESTIMONY, AND THIS
IS A DELIGHTFUL BOOK
AND THIS IS THE WAY
IT IS LAID OUT AND
THE PAPER AND THE
PICTURES AND ALL. IT
IS SUCH A GOOD
INSTRUCTION ON GIVING
YOUR TITHES, AND
BIBLICAL PRINCIPLES,
AND THIS IS A
BLESSING, AND IT IS
A BLESSING FROM GOD
WHEN YOU GIVE YOUR
TITHES, AND SO MANY
PEOPLE IN THE CHURCH
WHO DO NOT IS
ASTRONOMICAL. AND I
WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE
YOUR MIND ON THAT
ONE, I HAVE ALWAYS
BEEN A TITHER AND
THIS IS SUCH A
BLESSING, AND I'VE
BEEN A WIDOW FOR MANY
YEARS, THE LORD IS
CARED FOR ME, AND I
BELIEVE THAT IS HIS
PROMISE AND I WANT
YOU TO HAVE THE BOOK,
AND YOU CAN HAVE
THIS FOR THE GIFT OF
$15 TO OUR MINISTRY.
THIS IS HOW WE STAY
ON THE AIR. THIS IS
A GOOD WAY TO TEACH
YOUR CHILDREN. AND
IF YOU DO NOT GIVE
THE OFFERINGS, AND
YOU CAN TEACH THE
CHILDREN, AND WHEN
THEY HAVE THEIR FIRST
JOBS, AND MAY BE
MOWING THE LAWN OR
WORKING AT MCDONALD'S
AND THAT COULD DO,
AND YOU COULD GIVE
THIS THE LORD
IMMEDIATELY, AND THE
BLESSINGS WILL COME
TO YOU EVENTUALLY.
AND YOU CAN WRITE TO
ME AT MY PO BOX THAT
YOU WILL BE SEEING ON
THE SCREEN, AND YOU
CAN ALSO CALL THE
TOLL-FREE NUMBER,
AND WE WILL GET THIS
OUT TO YOU. AND I
HAVE GOT SISTER
STEPHANIE, AND I
BELIEVE THIS IS ONE
OF YOUR RECIPES?
>>
NO, NO, BUT THIS IS
SO EASY, AND I REALLY
BELIEVE IT IS SO EASY
LIKE THEY SAY. I
LOVE EASY AND TASTY
AND THIS IS BOTH OF
THOSE.
>> I WISH YOU COULD
SMELL THIS. AND THIS
IS,
>> AND THIS IS A
CRESCENT ROLL
PACKAGE.
>> AND WE HAVE DONE
THIS, AND WE WILL
JUST SEALED THEM UP
AND WE HAVE THE EDGES
AND WE MAKE IT SOLID,
AND WE WILL HAVE
THIS BAKING FOR EIGHT
MINUTES.
>> AND YOU KNOW, AND
WE HAVE DONE THIS
MANY TIMES, AND YOU
HAVE SEEN HER DO THIS
BEFORE.
>> AND WE WILL DO
THIS FOR EIGHT
MINUTES.
>> AND I WILL JUST IN
HERE AND LOOK
GORGEOUS.
>> YOU ARE SO GOOD AT
THAT, AND WE HAVE GOT
SOME SUGAR, AND WE
HAVE GOT CORN SYRUP,
AND THIS IS SO GOOD.
AND THIS WOULD BE SO
GOOD FOR YOU, ALSO.
>> AND I HAVE TASTED
ONE OF THESE, AND
THIS IS SO GOOD, AND
THIS TASTE LIKE A
PECAN PIE, AND WHEN
YOU DO THIS, AND YOU
DO EVERYTHING LIKE
THAT TO MAKE A PIE,
AND YOU WOULD BE SO
BUSY.
>> AND THIS IS A
LITTLE BUTTER, AND WE
HAVE AN EGG, AND
THEN WE WILL ALSO
HAVE SOME MORE HERE.
>> AND WOULD THIS BE
THE PECAN? AND I
MIGHT HAVE SOME MORE.
>> AND YES, I WANTED
TO HAVE A LOT IN THE
FIRST ONE I DID, AND
I PUT SOME MORE IN.
OKAY, AND THIS IS SO
SUPER SIMPLE. AND
YOU WILL BAKE THIS
FOR A MINUTE'S, AND
MIX IT UP, AND THEN
YOU WILL MIX THIS
UP, AND I WILL BE
POURING THIS OVER,
AND I WILL BE BAKING
THIS FOR ANOTHER 18
MINUTES, AND THAT IS
IT AND IS THAT CRAZY?
>> AND HAVE YOU EVER
MADE THE REGULAR
PECAN PIES?
>> I HAVE NOT. AND I
COULD MAKE THE APPLE.
YES. AND I LIKE TO
MAKE AN APPLE PIE,
AND I HAVE THE
COCONUT CREAM PIES,
AND I DID THAT AND
THOSE ARE REALLY
GOOD.
>> AND SUZANNE, AND
SHE HAS A FRIEND,
ROBIN, AND WE GAVE
HER ONE AND SHE LIKES
IT.
>> THAT WOULD BE
GOOD.
>> DO YOU WANT TO TRY
IT AGAIN?
>> BUT NO.
>> THIS IS SO
BEAUTIFUL. AND THEY
SMELL SO, SO GOOD.
>> AND YES, AND WE
HAVE GOT TO CONTROL
THE PORTIONS.
>> AND YES, AND WHEN
YOU BAKE THIS AT 350
DEGREES FOR 18
MINUTES, AND THEN YOU
ARE FINISHED.
>> ALL RIGHT, AND IF
YOU WANTED RECIPE
AND WE WILL BE GLAD
TO GET THIS OUT TO
YOU THE INFORMATION
IS COMING UP, AND
YOU CAN ALSO E-MAIL
ME AND WE CAN GET
THIS OUT TO YOU, AND
THERE IS NO CHARGE,
AND YOU WANT TO HAVE
THIS IN THE LIBRARY.
AND STAY WITH ME I
WANT YOU TO MEET
SUZANNE.
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OF THE RECIPE TODAY,
THESE WRITE TO THE
ADDRESS ON YOUR
SCREEN, OR YOU CAN
E-MAIL US AT THE
E-MAIL ADDRESS YOU
SEE ON THE SCREEN.
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>>OKAY, AND MEET MY
NEW FRIEND, SUZANNE
FISHER AND I AM
HOLDING, AND I HOLD
YOU IN ALL, AND WE
HAVE HAD ANGELA HUNT
ON THE PROGRAM.
>> SHE IS WONDERFUL,
SHE HAS WRITTEN OVER
100 BOOKS.
>> 100? AND ALL OF
THE RESEARCH AND YOU
HAVE SO MUCH
RESEARCH. AND IS
THIS A SERIES? AND
THIS IS BETHANY?
>> AND YES AND THIS
IS CALLED A EAGLE
HILL, AND WE HAVE
ANOTHER CALLING, AND
WE HAVE THE
REVEALING, AND THIS
IS A STORY AND THIS
IS A TRUE STORY AND
YOU KNOW, AND THIS IS
BASED UPON A BERNIE
MADOFF, AND YOU
KNOW, THERE WAS A
MENNONITE INVESTOR,
AND HE DID THIS FOR
THE MENNONITE PEOPLE,
AND THE ECONOMY
CRASHED, AND HE WOULD
TRY TO PROP UP
EVERYTHING AND IT ALL
CAME TUMBLING DOWN.
AND HE WAS A
MENNONITE.
>> AND YES, AND HE
WAS A MENNONITE
FINANCIAL PLANNER.
>> YES. THAT SHOULD
NOT SURPRISE ME.
>> AND THIS IS WHAT
ABOUT HIS SO GOOD,
AND HE WOULD BE
AMAZING THAT THEY
WOULD BE AMISH
MILLIONAIRES, BUT
THEY DO LIVE A VERY
FRUGAL LIFE, AND
BACK TO THE SERIES,
AND THIS WAS SO
STARTLING, AND THIS
IS TRUE,
AND THE SEC CAME IN,
THEY TOOK THE ASSETS,
AND THE PEOPLE COULD
MAKE THEIR CLAIM SO
THEY COULD BE
REIMBURSED. AND THEY
DID NOT WANT TO FOR
THE AMISH PEOPLE,
AND THEY TOOK SOME
DONATIONS, AND THEY
TOOK CARE OF THE
PEOPLE. AND WE ARE
TALKING ABOUT SMALL
INVESTORS, AND MAYBE
$1000 OR SO. BUT
THIS IS SO
INTERESTING FOR THE
AMISH PEOPLE, AND
THEY CHOOSE NOT TO
ACCUSE.
>> AND THAT DOES NOT
SURPRISE ME AND THEIR
RESPONSE, IS SO UNLIKE
THOSE IN THE WEST.
>> AND WE WANT THINGS
TO BE FAIR AND RIGHT.
>> AND HOW DARE YOU
TAKE MY MONEY?
>> AND THEY HAVE GOT
A CHRISTLIKE WAY.
>> AND WHEN YOU START
OUT, AND YOU USE A
COMPUTER?
>> YES I USE A
COMPUTER.
AND I HAVE TWO BIG
DOGS, I AM IN THE
LAUNDRY ROOM.
>> AND YES, I
NORMALLY USE A YELLOW
JOURNAL, BUT WHEN
YOU HAVE YOUR
CHARACTER AND MIND,
AND DOES THAT
SURPRISE YOU AS YOU
SIT THERE, AND THEN
THEY MIGHT TAKE OFF
IN A DIRECTION THAT
YOU'RE NOT REALLY
PLANNED?
>> IT IS THE
STRANGEST THING, AND
THERE IS A MOMENT AND
WHERE THE CHARACTERS
GO, AND THEY ARE LIKE
A POP-UP BALLOON,
AND THEY CAN HAVE A
MIND OF THEIR OWN,
IT IS A REALLY FUN
AND THRILLING RIDE
THAT YOU GO ON, AND
YOU ARE A PART OF THE
EXPERIENCE. AND I
BELIEVE THE HOLY
SPIRIT WOULD GIVE A
GIFT TO YOUR
IMAGINATION. AND I
FEEL LIKE THIS IS A
LOT OF HARD WORK AND
BEING OPEN TO THE
CHANGES, AND SOME
PEOPLE WRITE THESE
THINGS IN DIFFERENT
WAYS, THEY MIGHT MAP
IT OUT, AND BY THE
TIME THEY WRITE IT
OUT, THEY GO DOWN THE
ROAD. BUT I LIKE TO
GO BY THE SEED OF MY
PANTS.
>> AND MAYBE HAVE GOT
A SERIES WITH THREE
BOOKS, AND THEN YOU
MUST KNOW A LOT ABOUT
THE AMISH PEOPLE.
AND HOW DID YOU DO
THAT? AND DID YOU GO
WHERE THEY ARE AND
STUDY THEM? AND
UNDERSTAND THE
HISTORY?
>> AND MY FATHER WAS,
AND HE WAS A GERMAN
BAPTIST. AND THEY
USE THE TERM-PLAIN,
AND YOU KNOW, THE
MENNONITES, AND THE
GERMANS, AND THERE
ARE SO MANY AND THEY
CALL THEM OF
"THE PLAIN."
>> AND IT WAS MY
GRANDFATHER.
>> AND THEN, AND THE
AMISH, AND THEY ARE
AN OFFSHOOT OF THE
MENNONITES.
>> NOT MANY PEOPLE
KNOW THAT AND THAT'S
IMPRESSIVE, AND THAT
WAS IN 1525, AND THE
AMISH BEGAN, AND
THEY BROKE OFF IN
1693 AND THEY WERE
LATE. BUT THEY ARE
THE FASTEST GROWING
POPULATION IN NORTH
AMERICA.
>> THE AMISH? AND
WOULD THEY BE AROUND
IN ANOTHER FEW
GENERATIONS?
>> AND I CANNOT WAIT
TO TELL YOU, AND
THIS IS SUCH A
SURPRISE, AND THEY
ARE THE
FASTEST-GROWING.
>> WHAT AND WHY?
>> INSIDE--OUT.
>> AND THE OUTSIDERS
DON'T COME IN?
>> VERY FEW.
CONVERTS, AND IS A
NOT HER LIFESTYLE,
THAT WE CANNOT
ACCEPT.
>> AND WHAT DO YOU
MEAN BY LANGUAGE?
>> AND THEY SPEAK
PENNSYLVANIA DUTCH,
AND THIS IS FROM THE
GERMAN, FROM THE
RHINELAND.
>> AND I THOUGHT THEY
SPOKE ENGLISH.
>> AND THEY HAVE
ENGLISH AS A SECOND
LANGUAGE, AND THIS
IS AN OLD LANGUAGE,
AND THE HOMES, AND
THIS HAS BEEN
PRESERVED AND YOU
CAN SPEAK TO THEM IN
PENNSYLVANIA OR OHIO
OR INDIANA. AND
THEY UNDERSTAND EACH
OTHER.
>> I HAVE NEVER HEARD
OF THAT, AND IF THEY
ARE TO THE
FASTEST-GROWING, AND
THAT WOULD MEAN THEY
ARE NOT LEAVING IN
DROVES LIKE SOME TV
PROGRAMS AND HOW THEY
WOULD LEAD YOU TO
BELIEVE.
>> AND I'M SO GLAD
YOU BROUGHT THAT UP,
AND 85 PERCENT OR 90
PERCENT OF THE YOUNG
PEOPLE, AND THEY
STAY IN THE
COMMUNITY. AND THAT
IS HUGE. AND THAT IS
ALMOST A FLIP-FLOP OF
THE MODERN CHURCH.
AND I THINK ABOUT 67
PERCENT OF THE YOUNG
PEOPLE DON'T GO TO
CHURCH NOW. AND THAT
IS A HUGE FLIP-FLOP
FROM THE AMISH. AND
YOU BECOME A MEMBER
WHEN YOU ARE
BAPTIZED, AND THIS
IS WHY, AND MANY OF
THE YOUNG PEOPLE,
THEY ARE ON THESE
PROGRAMS, AND WE ARE
ON THE FRINGES.
>> AND THE PEOPLE
NEED TO KNOW, THESE
ARE NOT A REALITY
SHOW. THEY ARE
CONTRIVED AND PHONY.
I CANNOT WATCH THEM.
THEY MAKE ME ANGRY.
THEY ARE SO STUPID.
THAT WOULD BE THE
THING. AND I DID
WATCH A FEW MINUTES,
OF THE BREAKING
AMISH. AND I
THOUGHT, AND THIS IS
OUTSIDE ANY THING OF
BEING REASONABLE,
AND WE OUTSIDE. AND
THOSE KIDS. I DON'T
KNOW HOW THEY PUT IT
TOGETHER.
>> IT IS SUCH A
DISSERVICE TO THE
PEOPLE, AND 85 % OF
THE PEOPLE, STAY AND
THEY DON'T TELL THEIR
STORIES AND ALL OF
THE ONES WHO LEAVE.
AND THEY BELIEVE FOR
A REASON. THEY CAN
BE DYSFUNCTIONAL,
AND THERE IS A
POLITICAL SPECTRUM,
AND THEY HAVE THE
SUPER CONSERVATIVE,
AND WE HAVE THE
STRANGE STORIES AND
ALL THE WAY TO AND
THE PROGRESSIVES,
AND ALSO THE NEW
ORDER, AND MAYBE
THEY HAVE
ELECTRICITY.
>> AND HOW DID YOU
LEARN ALL OF THIS?
AND DID YOU
GRANDFATHER TELL YOU?
>> AND I WAS RAISED
WITH HAVING A SENSE
OF THE CULTURE BEYOND
BUGGIES AND THE
BONNETS AND THE
BEARDS AND THIS IS
WHERE MOST PEOPLE
STOP, AND THERE IS
SO MUCH MORE, AND
THERE IS THE THEOLOGY
OF THESE ANABAPTIST
AND THERE IS SO MUCH
TO LEARN WITHOUT
NECESSARILY BEING AN
AMISH PERSON.
>> ARE THEY BORN
AGAIN?
>> YOU KNOW, THAT IS
AN EVANGELICAL TERM
AND A CONCEPT, I
HAVE MET AMISH AND I
HAVE NO DOUBT THAT WE
HAVE THE SAME SINCE
OF SPIRITUAL LIFE.
THERE THEOLOGY
EMPHASIZES DIFFERENT
THINGS THAN US, AND
THEY HAVE A HUGE
SENSE OF THE HOLINESS
OF GOD, AND WE HAVE
GOT A LARGE SENSE OF
THE GRACE OF GOD,
AND MAYBE SOMEWHERE
IN THE MIDDLE WOULD
BE THE RIGHT THING.
>> YES, AND THEY
BELIEVE, AND THEY DO
BELIEVE IN THE
TRINITY AND ALL. AND
MAYBE WE WOULD BE
TALKING ABOUT
SEMANTICS.
>> AND WELL, AND THEY
COME FROM THE
REFORMATION AND THIS
IS REALLY AND THEY
ARE AT THE PLACE, AND
WERE MARTIN LUTHER
HAD BROKEN OFF, AND
THE GROWING
REFORMATION. AND
THEY DO BELIEVE IN
SOMETHING WHAT THEY
CALLED THE BELIEVER'S
BAPTISM AND THEY DID
NOT BELIEVE THAT A
INFANT COULD BE
BAPTIZED.
>> AND THAT WAS A
BREAK OFF FROM THE
ORIGINAL?
>> AND THIS WAS THE
BREAK OFF FROM THE
PROTESTANTS AND THIS
WAS RIGHT AT THAT
TIME IN THE HISTORY
WHEN EUROPE WAS
UPSIDE DOWN. AND IT
SEEMS LIKE A SMALL
POINT NOW, AND ALSO
IN THE BAPTISM,
BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT
BACK AT THE TIME, AND
THIS IS HOW THEY KEPT
THE RECORDS AND IT
WAS ANARCHY. AND
THESE PEOPLE WERE
CHASED AND MARTYRED
AND THEY WERE BURNED
AT THE STAKE, AND
THEY CONFISCATED
THEIR BARNS, AND
THEIR FARMS. AND
THEY COULD NOT FARM,
AND THEY WENT INTO
FRANCE, ALSO IN
SWITZERLAND, AND
THEY COULD GO
ANYWHERE AND MAKE IT
A FARMLAND. IT CAN
BE FRUITFUL.
>> AND I SPOKE IN
CHURCHES, AND
ANOTHER ONE WAS NEAR
LANCASTER. AND YOU
SEE QUITE A FEW
THERE, AND A LOT OF
THE HORSES AND
BUGGIES. AND SAY THE
OTHER ONES.
AND YOU KNOW, I SENT
A TEXT MESSAGE TO MY
GRANDSON, AND THEY
DO NOT USE
ELECTRICITY OR
RUNNING WATER?
>> ACTUALLY, AND THAT
WOULD BE AND WHAT YOU
WOULD ASSUME, AND
THEY DO NOT BELIEVE
IN BEING DEPENDENT
UPON THE GRID, AND
THEY DO HAVE COMING
IN, THEY CAN HAVE
WATER. THEY HAVE
SOLAR PANELS, AND
HAVE THE PROPANE
TANKS, AND THEY HAVE
ALL KINDS OF WAYS TO
GET IT DONE.
>> AND LIKE WE DO?
AND NO TAXING.
>> AND THEY CAN TAKE
CARE OF THEMSELVES IN
A BIG STORM. AND WE
SHOULD BE LIVING LIKE
THEM. AND WE HAVE
MULTIPLE LEVELS OF
ENERGY.
>> AND CAN YOU
DESCRIBE, AND MAYBE
THE FATHER AND THE
MOTHER AND MAYBE SOME
OF THE KIDS. AND HOW
THEY WOULD OPERATE.
AND IS THE FATHER
AND, AND WOULD HE BE
THE UNDISPUTED
LEADER?
>> AND YES, AND YOU
COULD FIND THAT, BUT
I HAVE FOUND MORE
EXAMPLES, AND THE
FATHER MIGHT BE A
QUIETER ONE, AND THE
MOTHER IS EXTROVERTED
WITH A BUSINESS. AND
ONE WOMAN, AND SHE
HAS ABOUT 200 WOMEN
IN A QUILTING
BUSINESS, AND ALSO
THE HUSBAND.
>> ARE THEY AMISH?
>> AND YES THEY WORK
IN THEIR HOMES, AND
THEY WORK FOR HER.
>> I HAVE READ, AND
MAYBE A YOUNG PERSON,
AND YOU KNOW, AND
THEY COULD GET A
CONSTRUCTION JOB IN
THE CITY. AND WOULD
THERE BE A PROBLEM IN
TRYING TO MIX IN WITH
THE REGULAR ONES,
AND THE AMERICANS?
AND BY DOING THIS,
AND WOULD THEY BE
LURED AWAY FROM THEIR
LIVES?
>> AND THIS IS
TEMPTING
TO LIVE LIKE THEY
ARE IN A MONASTERY,
BUT MOST OF THEIR
SETTLEMENTS ARE RIGHT
UP WITH THE ENGLISH.
AND IF YOU GO INTO
LANCASTER, OR INTO
OHIO AND INDIANA.
YOU COULD BE LIVING
RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO
THE AMISH NEIGHBORS.
THEY HAVE A LOT OF
RELATIONSHIPS THAT IS
MUTUAL, AND THEY ARE
RECIPROCAL. AND YOU
KNOW, AND THEY GO TO
THE PLACES.
>> AND THEY COULD GO
AND THE CAR AS LONG
AS IT IS NOT THEIR
CAR?
>> AND EVERY CHURCH
IS SELL STANDING,
AND THERE ARE HOME
CHURCHES. AND THIS
IS DIFFERENT FROM THE
MENNONITES, AND THE
AMISH AND THEY HAVE A
CHURCH HOME, AND
THEY WILL SPLIT WHEN
IT BECOMES TOO BIG.
AND THEN THEY HAVE
THEIR OWN LEADERSHIP
AND THEY DON'T HAVE
AN OVERRIDING POLICY.
>> AND COMMUNITIES
VERY IMPORTANT?
>> YES TWICE PER
YEAR.
>> I WANT TO PUT UP
YOUR WEBSITE, AND
MAYBE YOU ARE JUST
TUNING IN, AND I'M
SPEAKING TO THIS
YOUNG LADY WHO WRITES
BOOKS,
AND THIS IS HER
SECOND BOOK OF THE
SERIES, THIS IS
CALLED COLD OF THE
CALLING." AND THIS IS
ABOUT BETHANY A YOUNG
GIRL.
>> SHE HAS A GERMAN
NAME.
>> AND YOU CAN GET
THIS THROUGH THE
WEBSITE, AND SHE IS
REALLY A WELL-KNOWN
WRITER, AND IN THE
CHRISTIAN CIRCLES.
AND IF YOU ARE
WRITING FICTION, AND
I CERTAINLY BELIEVE
YOU WOULD WANT TO
GIVE THIS AND WHAT WE
ARE SPEAKING ABOUT
TODAY, AND SHE IS
QUALIFIED TO INFORM
US, ON THE AMISH
PEOPLE. AND YOU
KNOW, THEY CAME TO
THE FOREFRONT WHEN
SOMEBODY SHOT SO
MANY LITTLE GIRLS AND
HE KILLED THEM. THE
PEOPLE, AND THEY FORGAVE.
AND THEY FOR GAVE
IMMEDIATELY, AND I
CAN REMEMBER, AND
THE MAINSTREAM
REPORTERS BEING
THERE, AND THEY WERE
JUST BLOWN AWAY. AND
THEY GOT TOGETHER TO
MINISTER TO THE
MURDERERS FAMILY.
WOW.
>> THAT IS A POWERFUL
EXAMPLE AND YES, AND
I KNOW WE JUST HAD A
TRAGEDY END OF THE
LORD, AND THE MAN
SHOT THE FELLOW IN
THE MOVIE THEATER.
THESE THINGS HAPPEN,
AND BIGGER STORY,
AND OUT OF THAT, AT
THE SCHOOLHOUSE, IN
BARTON COUNTY. AND
THAT WAS UP IN
PENNSYLVANIA. IT WAS
THE IDEA OF
FORGIVING. IT WAS
SHOCKING.
>> HOW MANY WERE
KILLED?
>> FIVE WERE KILLED,
AND 10 WERE SHOT AND
FIVE WERE KILLED. IT
IS A SAD STORY AND
YET, THE AMISH, I
HAVE MET THE
FAMILIES. THEY HAVE
GOT A GREAT BELIEVE
IN A SOVEREIGN GOD,
AND THAT TAKES THEM
OUT OF THE TRAGEDY,
AND THEY CAN MOVE
FORWARD. AND THEY
BELIEVE. YES IT IS.
>> AND JUST HEARING
ABOUT IT, THIS
REBUKED ME, AND WE
HAVE GOT SUCH A
TENDENCY AND WE DO
WANT TO HAVE REVENGE
OR SOMETHING.
>> AND THIS IS
COUNTERINTUITIVE AND
NONNATURAL, AND WE
DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A
TRAGEDY TO LOOK AT
THE PROBLEMS IN OUR
LIVES AND EVERY DAY.
AND THIS WAS NOT A
ONE-TIME EVENT. AND
THEY REALLY HAVE THIS
FORGIVE THIS AND THIS
IS IN THEIR LIVES.
AND EVEN THE SMALL
AND GREAT THINGS.
>> AND TALK ABOUT
THEIR WORK ETHIC,
AND I THINK WE COULD
LEARN A LOT ABOUT
THAT.
>> THEY HAVE GOT A
TERRIFIC WORK ETHIC.
AND THEY ARE EDUCATED
UP TO THE EIGHTH
GRADE IN ONE ROOM
SCHOOL HOUSES, AND
ALL THE WAY TO THE
SUPREME COURT, AND
THEY COULD EDUCATE
THEIR CHILDREN AS
THEY SAW FIT. AND
THEY BELIEVE THEY
STOP AT EIGHTH GRADE
AND THAT'S NOT TRUE,
AND WE ARE SOME OF
THE MOST INTELLIGENT
PEOPLE. THEY HAVE
GOT A SENSE OF
MASTERING SOMETHING
BEFORE THEY CAN MOVE
ON. AND IT GOES BACK
TO THE ONE ROOM
SCHOOLHOUSE, AND THE
THIRD-GRADERS, THEY
CANNOT GO FORWARD
UNTIL THEY ALL KNOW
IT. AND IT IS A
MASTERING OF THE
TOPIC AND THEN MOVING
FORWARD.
>> AND DO THEY GET
COLLEGE DEGREES?
>> AND NO, THE
MENNONITES CAN, AND
THE AMISH BELIEVE THAT IS
A HIGHER CULTURE.
AND THEY WILL
BELIEVE, THEY COULD
GO TO THE DOCTORS,
AND THEY DO NOT, AND
THEY DO NOT PURSUE
HIGHER EDUCATION IN
THE CHURCH.
>> AND DO THE AMISH
EVER MARRY OUTSIDE OF
THE FAITH YOU MIGHT
SAY? AND IF THEY DO,
HOW WOULD IT WORK?
>> AND THE MARRIAGE
MIGHT WORK BUT THEY
WOULD NOT BE A GOOD
MEMBER IN GOOD
STANDING,. AND THEY
WOULD HAVE A SENSE
AND WHEN YOU BECOME
AMISH, AND THEY SAY,
YOU BECOME BAPTIZED
AND YOU MAKE A
PROMISE TO THE
CHURCH. AND THEY
ALSO PROMISE, AND IF
THEY COULD BE A
MINISTER OR A BISHOP
OR A DEACON, AND
THEY DO THIS BY LOTS
ON THE BOOK OF ACTS,
AND THIS IS A
LIFETIME POSITION AND
THEY TAKE IT. THIS
IS A SIGNIFICANT
MOMENT. AND THEY
WOULD DO THIS BEFORE
AND BEFORE THEY GET
MARRIED, AND THEY
WOULD DO THIS.
>> AND THIS IS SUCH A
SHOCK, AND THIS IS
THE FASTEST GROWING
GROUP.
>> AND YES, AND THEY
HAVE ABOUT SIX KIDS
PER FAMILY, BUT 10 IS
NOT OUT OF THE
QUESTION. AND THEY
HAVE GOT A ZERO
DIVORCE RATE, I
DON'T MEAN TO SAY,
THE MARRIAGES ARE NOT
PERFECT, AND THERE
IS A PRESSURE TO STAY
TOGETHER, AND
PROBABLY HOW WE GREW
UP, THERE WAS A
PRESSURE TO STAY
TOGETHER MORE THAN
NOW.
>> AND IN A CAPSULE,
AND WHAT CAN WE LEARN
AND WHAT WOULD BE THE
MAIN THING, AND WE
HAVE TOUCHED ON SOME
OF THEM, AND WHAT
COULD WE LEARN FROM
THEIR LIVES, AND
SOMETHING THAT
REALLY, AND THAT
REBUKES ME, AND THEY
HAVE THE HOLINESS OF
GOD, AND THEY ARE IN
AWE OF GOD. AND
ALMOST A FEAR. AND
YOU DON'T WANT TO LET
GOD DOWN. AND WE
ONLY HAVE A COUPLE OF
MINUTES.
>> THAT WOULD BE THE
FIRST THING, AND THE
SENSE, OF YIELDING TO
GOD, AND THAT GOD IS
INVOLVED IN
EVERYTHING. AND THE
CLOTHING IS A
REMINDER THAT THEY
BELONG TO GOD, AND
ALMOST LIKE A WEDDING
RING. AND IT IS A
PART OF EVERYTHING.
IS NOT THE PIE OR
THE PIECRUST AND THIS
IS THEIR ENTIRE
LIVES. AND DID YOU
SEE THE VALUES, AND
THEY BELIEVE THEY CAN
HAVE BOUNDARIES, AND
THEY HAVE A BOUNDARY
IN THEIR LIVES. I
LOVE THAT FOR SO MANY
REASONS.
>> YES THAT WOULD BE
A GOOD LESSON.
>> IT IS, AND THE
TENSILE FORGIVENESS
AND THIS IS A CALLING
TO MANY CHRISTIANS
AND THIS IS A PART OF
WHAT WE BELIEVE. AND
THEY BELIEVE THAT GOD
WILL CORRECT THE WRONG.
>> AND I LIVE, AND
I LIVE IN A NEW
DEVELOPMENT AND I'M
AMAZED, AND ALL OF
THE TWO-CAR
GARAGES, AND THE
CARS AND SET OUT AND
THE GARAGE IS FILLED
WITH TOYS. AND THAT
WOULD BE A GREAT
LESSON FOR THE
AMERICANS TO LEARN
AND ENOUGH IS ENOUGH,
AND MAYBE EVEN LESS,
AND WE COULD HAVE A
QUIET LIFE. AND I
HOPE THAT WE HAVE
TOUCHED YOU ON THIS,
AND THIS IS ALWAYS
BEEN INTRIGUING TO ME
AND YOU TAUGHT ME A
LOT AND THE BOOK IS
CALLED THE,
"CALLING." AND I
HAVE NOT READ THIS,
BUT I BELIEVE, YOU
WOULD REALLY LOVE
THIS. AND NOT ONLY
THAT, AND YOU LEARN
A LOT. THERE ARE SO
MANY THINGS THAT WE
SPOKE ABOUT TODAY
THAT WILL ENHANCE
YOUR LIFE AND I'M SO
GLAD YOU HAVE BEEN
HERE. WE'RE OUT OF
TIME AND JOIN ME NEXT
TIME AND REMEMBERED
THERE IS NO HIGHER
CALLING THAN THAT OF
A HOME KEEPER AND GOD
BLESS YOU.
>> IF YOU SHOULD
MISS A
HOMEKEEPERS PROGRAM
YOU CAN CATCH UP BY
GOING TO THE WEBSITE
YOU SEE ON YOUR
SCREEN, AND YOU
COULD GO TO THE
PROGRAM SECTION, AND
CLICK ON HOMEKEEPERS.
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