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Newscaster on webcast Could a strange substance found by a southwest
Arkansas man be part of a government test? That's the question at the heart of a phenomenon
called chemtrails now getting widespread attention.
Fox 31 Newscast online Male Anchor: Well now they say the government
is dumping chemicals on us to control or manipulate the weather..
Female Anchor: And they say the unusual looking jet trails in the sky are actually chemical-laden
chemtrails.
NBC Newscast People say the government is up there in airplanes
spraying all kinds of chemicals to change or manipulate the weather, leaving what you
see there and they call that a chemtrail.
Male Reporter So when I look up there what I think are contrails,
you're telling me are chemtrails.
Female witness Yes. A contrail would be dissipated by now.
News Channel 10 Webcast Dave
That's interesting Dale and Christina, this is of interest not only in this country but
in European countries and indeed all over the world. A lot of folks are interested in
it.
Christina Well, Dave, you mentioned that climatologists
and others who study the atmosphere believe that they would be able to surely spot any
kinds of signs of an ominous plot.
Narrator – Michael J. Murphy Our journey started in San Diego, California
where thousands of scientists, engineers, policy-makers, and journalists gathered for
The American Association for the Advancement of Science Conference. One of the topics was
the artificial manipulation of the Earth's climate, also called geoengineering. During
the meeting, scientists spoke about he plausibility of implementing geoengineering campaigns throughout
the world, under the guise of preventing global warming. One widely accepted theory was to
block the sun by spraying something into the atmosphere. When they were asked about existing
aerosol programs they stated clearly that no such programs had ever been implemented.
But strangely, these proposals sounded exactly like what people around the world are claiming
is already happening.
Stewart Howe – Journalist When I found out that the American Association
for the Advancement of Science was going to be held down here and the main body of topics
would be on geoengineering, I had to come. I had to be in on this. I had to hear what
these top climate change scientists had to say.
AAAS Conference Panelist As to the other question about chemtrails
and whether geoengineering would be deployed right now with or without our knowledge, I
think, it's my personal insight that, other than to say I work in government at pretty
high levels, at the White House and in state government and I am personally skeptical of
that. But honestly, you never know with government.
Newscast online Chemtrails. On the internet they are cited
as proof of the government creating clouds to combat global warming.
Webcast of New Zealand Parliament Speaker
They claim the American government with the secret approval of the national government
is covertly using jet aircraft to spray population centers with aluminum, with barium, and with
strontium so as to reduce people's humility and to reduce the global population.
Online video – speaker unknown Yes, I'm always a little bit suspicious because
the government doesn't seem that capable to do something on such a large scale, you know?
Weather Webcast Channel 10 (location unknown) That is not rain, that is not snow. Believe
it or not military aircraft flying through the region is dropping chaff, small bits of
aluminum, sometimes it's made of plastic or even metalicized [sic] paper products, but
its use is an antiradar issue and obviously they're up there practicing. Now they won't
confirm that but I was in the marine corp for many years, and I'll tell you right now.
That's what it is.
Webcast Channel 10 Weather (location unknown) Now what happens here is military jets come
out of Key West Air Force Base and move off into the atmosphere and drop mylar strips.
Some could be a little wider, some are small glass fibers that are coated in aluminum.
What the Air Force does is they take their military jets and they dump these out of the
aircraft and they fall into the atmosphere, and some take as much as a day to fall down.
Weather Webcast ABC This is inevitably military or something going
on. The government, the Air Force. When you see this kind of pattern like this you can
rest assured there's something going on. They're actually little bitty magnetic, little bitty
strips of whether it's aluminum . . .
Weather Webcast Channel 10 (location unknown) While it's a nuisance to you and I, to determine
what's real and what's not but it looks like it's a lifesaving operation by the military.
Webcast of New Zealand Parliament Presenter
The apparent motive behind this conspiracy theory is one world government.
Speaker Order, order, I cannot hear.
Presenter Mr. Speaker, I want to assure the House, that
both my ministry and my colleague, the Minister of Health who have received correspondence
on this issue, that this conspiracy theory does not have an iota of truth and that the
trails observed from aircraft simply come from jet engines. [laughing]
Speaker Number Nine, order.
Presenter And I think what an appalling example it is
of the new Thoroughfare Spokesperson for the Labor Party that she's spreading conspiracy
theories about the United States government.
Speaker I think this House has heard sufficient.
Webcast explanation of geoengineering Narrator
It is called geoengineering, fighting global warming by putting chemical dust in the atmosphere
and reflecting harmful radiation back into space.
New speaker We take geoengineering to mean deliberate
large scale intervention in Earth's system.
Online video of John Holdren – Advisor to President Barack Obama in Science and Technology
There are a variety of schemes that have been discussed for geoengineering. A classic example
is injecting reflecting particles into Earth orbit.
Web video featuring David Keith, University of Calgary Geoengineer
Nevertheless there might be good reason to be thinking about aluminum. It turns out there's
been a lot of work on the environmental consequences of aluminum in the stratosphere. The big deal
really is that aluminum has four times the volumetric rate for forcing in the small particles
as does sulfur and that David Keith
means you have four times the surface area for the same radial forcing. And this is a
much bigger deal, that you have roughly sixteen times less the coagulation rate. That's the
thing that really drives removal so you can get away, we think, with much smaller mass
levels.
Stewart Howe So that's why we see things like in the Hughes
Aircraft patent from '89, they talked about aluminum so that's why we're seeing in the
surface water samples aluminum, and here's David Keith saying that aluminum has four
times the reflective volume surface area. So they'd like us to think that we're talking
about sulfur, and here they slipped up and let it out that aluminum is four times better
to achieving their ends and it sounds like it's the one thing they don't want us to know
the effects of.
David Keith The little picture is from a nanofabrication
study which shows that you could make very high quality, do this with a jet in just a
very simple way, to make aluminum particles by spraying aluminum vapor out which oxidizes
so it's certainly, in principle, possible to do that so there's a big literature that's
already looked at that. And you could do that by either building new versions of these aircraft
or even re-engineering existing aircraft. So there's some ideas about, you go to an
engineering firm and you want this done, they don't say it's hard or unusual they say, okay,
yes, we could do it. Aerosol geoengineering looks like it's so cheap that cost is basically
not going to be an issue. That means that implementation decisions will be risk to risk
decisions. The risk of doing it against the risk of not doing it. It makes the problem
of how we govern it fundamentally harder and different and um. So I've told you that it's
cheap to deliver materials to the stratosphere and I'm convinced that's true, I don't think
that will change. But I think the more we do research the less easy this will look,
the more complicated the environmental effects will look and that's a good thing because
right now, it looks too easy. So I think if we do more research we're likely to find out
that it's harder and more complicated than we thought and side effects are harder to
manage and that's a healthy outcome that will make it easier to do the management. Of course
the opposite reaction is possible. It's an empirical question how people will actually
react to knowledge about this. And if their reaction is to say these crazy scientists
are so concerned about putting CO2 in the atmosphere they want to think about these
things and that might actually mean we ought to be more serious about the risk of CO2 in
the atmosphere. And by the way it's not really a moral hazard it's more like free riding
on our grandkids.
Dane Wigington Recent air quality studies including CARB
California Air Quality Resource Board have named submicron-sized particulates as being
particularly harmful for human respiration. Through all the
Dane Wigington discussions today I have not heard any mention
of this fallout, and has this been studied and also the effects of a highly reactive
metal like aluminum on toxifying soils and waters?
Alan Robock – Geoengineer The question is what would be the effects
of these materials on human health if they come on down into the stratosphere in particular,
small particles of aluminum?
David Keith So that the collaborators of mine working
on the aerosol scheme are actually folks from Carnegie Mellon who've focused on human health
impacts and while we haven't published it that was the very first thing we did was to
do the order of magnitude calculation not with pencil and paper but with an expert on
human health impacts on whether there could be a human health issue and for aluminum and
a lot of other particles there are a lot of toxicological things that they need to get
looked at seriously. But if you're thinking just about the sheer number of particles,
the human health impact, the answer is while we haven't published I, that was the first
thing we looked at with some of the leading experts who do epidemiological research on
human health impacts and it's not even close to an issue.
Dane Wigington So let me clarify, so ten megatons of aluminum
dumped into the atmosphere would have no human health impacts?
David Keith So let me be more careful here. Let's separate
out the toxicological. The alumina we've only begun to research and published nothing.
Mike Murphy to Stewart Howe Dane looked at him and said, so you're telling
me that spraying ten to twenty megatons of aluminum as you said, would have no human
health effects? He took a deep breath and he swallowed and said, 'Let me be more careful
here.'
David Keith We haven't done anything serious on alumina
and so there could be something terrible that we'll find tomorrow that we haven't looked
at.
Mike Murphy And that, for me was the whole main point
of what's going to be coming out to the public. It's the damaging effects of aluminum that's
being found around the world in massive amounts, and here's David Keith, confronted on this
very issue and he looked, at that point, like they just let the cat out of the bag.
Reiterating David Keith We haven't done anything serious on alumina
and so there could be something terrible that we find tomorrow that we haven't looked at.
Stewart Howe to Mike Murphy They're proceeding because they have an agenda
that's separate from trying to thwart this crisis of global warming. You know there's
obviously several other objectives whether it's depopulation, control, weapons aspects,
communications aspects, it's all kinds of things, you know, wild cards that we know
nothing about. We don't really know and I'm not going to attempt to speculate on exactly
what the agendas are but we can see clearly the agendas are not benefiting mankind. It's
benefiting the agenda of the elite.
Ken Caldeira – Geoengineer And so I think the question is how do you
draw the line between some activity that is allowed and doesn't need global governance
and activities that do require global governance?
President Barack Obama in Webcast Dr. John Holdren has agreed to serve as assistant
to the president for science and technology and for Director of the White House Office
of Science and Technology Policy. I look forward to his wise counsel in the years ahead.
Dr. John Holdren My personal opinion is that we have to keep
geoengineering on the table. We have to look at it very carefully because we might get
desperate enough to want to use it.
“FORA tv” Webcast So what would we do if in the year 2040 or
2060 there's a severe climate crisis, say widespread famines or Greenland's sliding,
suddenly into the ocean that the only plausible way in which we could start the Earth cooling
this century is to directly intervene in the climate system, say by putting particles in
the stratosphere.
M. Granger Morgan, Department of Engineering and Public Policy, Carnegie Mellon University
We do stuff in the stratosphere all the time of course, and so it's not as though the stratosphere
is absolutely pristine. But you don't want to have people going off and doing things
that involve large radiative forcings or go on for extended periods, or for that matter
that provide lots of reactive surfaces that could result in significant ozone destruction.
“FORA tv” webcast You know, maybe I'm putting a particle into
the atmosphere because I'm trying to make money, or maybe I'm putting a particle into
the atmosphere because I'm engaging in scientific research, trying to understand cloud physics
or maybe I'm putting this particle into the atmosphere because I'm trying to make it rain
locally, to seed a cloud and get more snow on our ski slopes. And this obviously raises
all kinds of questions. It's usually risky. It will likely negatively impact some people,
but we might find ourselves in a situation where those risks seem worth taking.